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UKRAINE: UKRAINE preparing plans for a retreat and is building defensive fortifications on the Slavyansk-Kramators-Mariupol line!!!p5651

 
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Someone published at youtube an intercepted phone call between 2 Russian ambassadors about the situation around Crimea and Ukraine:


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does this mean that the only fucking thing NSA can tap this days are the phones of the Russian ambassadors to such shitholes as Eritrea and Zimbabwe?
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Europeans plan to create consortium and buy Ukrainian gas transit system

Economy April 04, 1:11 UTC+4

MOSCOW, April 03, /ITAR-TASS/. European companies are planning to create a consortium and buy the Ukrainian gas transportation system, Ivan Grachev, chairman of the Energy Committee in the State Duma (lower house of the Russian parliament), said on Thursday, April 3.

“Everyone understands that Ukraine has no money now. European partners are afraid that the ‘gas war’ scenario of 2009 might occur again. As far as I know, Europe is considering the possibility of creating a trilateral consortium to buy the Ukrainian gas transportation system from Naftogaz Ukrainy. The revenue will be used to resolve the gas issue,” the MP said.

He has met with EU officials and parliamentarians from Germany and Belgium many times over the past several months and will meet with his Dutch colleagues next Monday, April 7.
The Ukrainian gas transit system is estimated at 5.3 billion U.S. dollars. Ukraine will need 6-7 billion U.S. dollars to pump gas into its underground storage facilities and buy gas until the end of the year.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
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So. The entire Russian gas transit system within Ukraine is valued at LESS than the natural gas needs for Ukraine for...

ONE LOUSY YEAR!

The reality is that the entire gas transit system in Ukraine is utterly worthless if no fucking Russian gas is flowing through it!

WE GOT A BUNCH OF GENIUSES HERE OR WHAT?!
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cnn still going strong with the plane story.. must be a coded message in there
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any idea what that might be?
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Euromaidan PR&#8207;@EuromaidanPR·29 secs
Effective sanctions would cut #Russian banks out of SWIFT banking system @anneapplebau | PR News #Ukraine
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Euromaidan PR&#8207;@EuromaidanPR·29 secs
Effective sanctions would cut #Russian banks out of SWIFT banking system @anneapplebau | PR News #Ukraine

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Read this wrong... stoner
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A power like Russian must have a warm water port. Crimea has been their warm water port for a hundred years. Syrian port is relatively new and unpredictable as to continued use for Russia. To keep the Crimea port Russiian they need land access. That means Eastern Ukraine must be taken all the way to the Dnieper River. U.S. and NATO forces will contest it vigorously or it Russian would go on into Kiev and take Western Ukraine too. Russian must make a decision. Throw Syria and Iran under the bus or risk serious deadly confrontation with the West. The West will allow Russia to take East Ukraine with only token resistence if Russia agrees to stop supporting Syria's Shite elements. Middle East stability depends on it from the West POV.
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Damn. Putin turned down Bandar Bush's "generous" bribe to back off Syria so now they've applied the "or else". Makes sense in a sick sort of way.

It remains to be seen if Putin will succumb to the crooked bastards. If he does I may go over there myself and shake him until his teeth rattle. There's about one chance left to get the one worlders off our backs and this is it.
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Europeans plan to create consortium and buy Ukrainian gas transit system

Economy April 04, 1:11 UTC+4

MOSCOW, April 03, /ITAR-TASS/. European companies are planning to create a consortium and buy the Ukrainian gas transportation system, Ivan Grachev, chairman of the Energy Committee in the State Duma (lower house of the Russian parliament), said on Thursday, April 3.

“Everyone understands that Ukraine has no money now. European partners are afraid that the ‘gas war’ scenario of 2009 might occur again. As far as I know, Europe is considering the possibility of creating a trilateral consortium to buy the Ukrainian gas transportation system from Naftogaz Ukrainy. The revenue will be used to resolve the gas issue,” the MP said.

He has met with EU officials and parliamentarians from Germany and Belgium many times over the past several months and will meet with his Dutch colleagues next Monday, April 7.
The Ukrainian gas transit system is estimated at 5.3 billion U.S. dollars. Ukraine will need 6-7 billion U.S. dollars to pump gas into its underground storage facilities and buy gas until the end of the year.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56405552


So. The entire Russian gas transit system within Ukraine is valued at LESS than the natural gas needs for Ukraine for...

ONE LOUSY YEAR!

The reality is that the entire gas transit system in Ukraine is utterly worthless if no fucking Russian gas is flowing through it!

WE GOT A BUNCH OF GENIUSES HERE OR WHAT?!
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what this neglects to mention is the third energy package

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Europeans plan to create consortium and buy Ukrainian gas transit system

...

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56405552


So. The entire Russian gas transit system within Ukraine is valued at LESS than the natural gas needs for Ukraine for...

ONE LOUSY YEAR!

The reality is that the entire gas transit system in Ukraine is utterly worthless if no fucking Russian gas is flowing through it!

WE GOT A BUNCH OF GENIUSES HERE OR WHAT?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44484715

No, some posters here will tell you:

* there is so much shale gas (fracking) in North Dakota, Texas, etc., it is coming out of the water pipes! they don't know what to do with it all!;
* hey will build pipelines from the shale gas extraction facilities all over the country to the coast;
* they will build some new liquefaction plants to handle this shale gas;
* they will build several hundred LNG tankers to deliver the gas to Europe; and
* then they will put it in the pipleine and reverse ship it to Ukraine!

Brilliant, right!?!?

And remember - you heard it here first!

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Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade


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Someone published at youtube an intercepted phone call between 2 Russian ambassadors about the situation around Crimea and Ukraine:


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56403719


does this mean that the only fucking thing NSA can tap this days are the phones of the Russian ambassadors to such shitholes as Eritrea and Zimbabwe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56317356


What get me from the leaked tapes of the Ukrainians,

or Nuland, or the Turkish PM, or the Russian Amb. does

not any one use a secure communication line any more

F**K they may has will use pigeons or smoke signal, or

flashing lights in Morse code.
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Today SBU released its preliminary findings on the shootings on the maidan on Feb 20th...





Ukraine points finger at ex-president and Russia in sniper deaths

[link to www.thestar.com.my]





Special police shot Kiev protesters, inquiry says

[link to www.bbc.com]





Ukraine says Russian agents involved in Kiev carnage

[link to www.newsdaily.com]






Ukraine authorities accuse Yanukovych of ordering snipers to open fire on protesters

[link to www.foxnews.com]





Ukraine Officials Hold 12 Former Riot Police Officers Over Kiev Violence

[link to www.thewire.com]






Ukraine: Yanukovych ordered snipers to shoot

[link to bigstory.ap.org]





Ukrainian officials hint at Russian involvement in deaths of protesters

[link to www.theguardian.com]






More Berkut are wanted but believed to be under Russian protection in Crimea. Indeed, many Berkut have been seen there since the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea.


This is why our resident Russian shill under a US IP proxy, Sun Dancer, has been shilling this subject so hard.
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Paul Ivan&#8207;@paul2ivan·24 mins
Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade

[link to youtu.be]
 Quoting: < DL >


Bored guys in African countries trying to seem important.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56400788

Is it even authentic? The way they are joking about Western hyperventilation about Crimea it could be, but it could also just be a clever comedy sketch ....
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Today SBU released its preliminary findings on the shootings on the maidan on Feb 20th...

Ukraine points finger at ex-president and Russia in sniper deaths

[link to www.thestar.com.my]

Special police shot Kiev protesters, inquiry says

[link to www.bbc.com]

Ukraine says Russian agents involved in Kiev carnage

[link to www.newsdaily.com]


Ukraine authorities accuse Yanukovych of ordering snipers to open fire on protesters

[link to www.foxnews.com]

Ukraine Officials Hold 12 Former Riot Police Officers Over Kiev Violence

[link to www.thewire.com]


Ukraine: Yanukovych ordered snipers to shoot

[link to bigstory.ap.org]

Ukrainian officials hint at Russian involvement in deaths of protesters

[link to www.theguardian.com]


More Berkut are wanted but believed to be under Russian protection in Crimea. Indeed, many Berkut have been seen there since the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea.


This is why our resident Russian shill under a US IP proxy, Sun Dancer, has been shilling this subject so hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5383047

Like I would believe a word these coup neo-fascists from Svoboda say? THey would tell you Russians threw Ukrainian babies out of an incubator in Simferopol if they thought you would believe them.

If they have evidence I am happy to look - so far all of the actual evidence contradicts what this junta is saying.

[ EDIT: By the way: posting 20 reports of the same accusation made by the same politician, doesn't make it any truer. I assume you posted all those things because you think it adds weight to the allegation? ]

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Over a thousand Occupy Wall Street veterans from the US are being sent (AGAIN) to Ukraine to monitor the rigged NATO elections set for next month...

Ukraine has been a pretty substantial payday for Occupy!

First they got paid to help stage the coup in Kiev...

Now they get paid to stage an election.
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Why do you call them "occupy..." when it's obvious that they are Nazi fascists far out, pardon far right extremists?
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Today SBU released its preliminary findings on the shootings on the maidan on Feb 20th...





Ukraine points finger at ex-president and Russia in sniper deaths

[link to www.thestar.com.my]





Special police shot Kiev protesters, inquiry says

[link to www.bbc.com]





Ukraine says Russian agents involved in Kiev carnage

[link to www.newsdaily.com]






Ukraine authorities accuse Yanukovych of ordering snipers to open fire on protesters

[link to www.foxnews.com]





Ukraine Officials Hold 12 Former Riot Police Officers Over Kiev Violence

[link to www.thewire.com]






Ukraine: Yanukovych ordered snipers to shoot

[link to bigstory.ap.org]





Ukrainian officials hint at Russian involvement in deaths of protesters

[link to www.theguardian.com]






More Berkut are wanted but believed to be under Russian protection in Crimea. Indeed, many Berkut have been seen there since the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea.


This is why our resident Russian shill under a US IP proxy, Sun Dancer, has been shilling this subject so hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5383047


So he is a shill because he has braincells and uses them well everything I have seen posted by him has been on the ball
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Paul Ivan&#8207;@paul2ivan·24 mins
Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade


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Could those two have been any more facetious? Just Saying. If this is the best of the intercepted conversations the west can leak then there must not be much there at all.
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Paul Ivan&#8207;@paul2ivan·24 mins
Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade


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That was very entertaining! What about all this shalom? Are those guys Jews or is just a jest?
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Nasa breaks with Russia WASHINGTON. The U.S. space agency Nasa cuts down its relations with Russia, apart from the cooperation on the International Space Station (ISS).

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Who the fuck needs NASA anymore?
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Today SBU released its preliminary findings on the shootings on the maidan on Feb 20th...





Ukraine points finger at ex-president and Russia in sniper deaths

[link to www.thestar.com.my]





Special police shot Kiev protesters, inquiry says

[link to www.bbc.com]





Ukraine says Russian agents involved in Kiev carnage

[link to www.newsdaily.com]






Ukraine authorities accuse Yanukovych of ordering snipers to open fire on protesters

[link to www.foxnews.com]





Ukraine Officials Hold 12 Former Riot Police Officers Over Kiev Violence

[link to www.thewire.com]






Ukraine: Yanukovych ordered snipers to shoot

[link to bigstory.ap.org]





Ukrainian officials hint at Russian involvement in deaths of protesters

[link to www.theguardian.com]






More Berkut are wanted but believed to be under Russian protection in Crimea. Indeed, many Berkut have been seen there since the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea.


This is why our resident Russian shill under a US IP proxy, Sun Dancer, has been shilling this subject so hard.
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So he is a shill because he has braincells and uses them well everything I have seen posted by him has been on the ball
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Commie shills never work solo. Here is a backup
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Today SBU released its preliminary findings on the shootings on the maidan on Feb 20th...





Ukraine points finger at ex-president and Russia in sniper deaths

[link to www.thestar.com.my]





Special police shot Kiev protesters, inquiry says

[link to www.bbc.com]





Ukraine says Russian agents involved in Kiev carnage

[link to www.newsdaily.com]






Ukraine authorities accuse Yanukovych of ordering snipers to open fire on protesters

[link to www.foxnews.com]





Ukraine Officials Hold 12 Former Riot Police Officers Over Kiev Violence

[link to www.thewire.com]






Ukraine: Yanukovych ordered snipers to shoot

[link to bigstory.ap.org]





Ukrainian officials hint at Russian involvement in deaths of protesters

[link to www.theguardian.com]






More Berkut are wanted but believed to be under Russian protection in Crimea. Indeed, many Berkut have been seen there since the Russian invasion and annexation of Crimea.


This is why our resident Russian shill under a US IP proxy, Sun Dancer, has been shilling this subject so hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5383047


So he is a shill because he has braincells and uses them well everything I have seen posted by him has been on the ball
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clappa
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Nasa breaks with Russia WASHINGTON. The U.S. space agency Nasa cuts down its relations with Russia, apart from the cooperation on the International Space Station (ISS).

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Who the fuck needs NASA anymore?
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Hey NASA does some cool stuff! :)

I imagine it was a 100% (neo-con) political decision and the decent folks at NASA weren't consulted.
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Paul Ivan&#8207;@paul2ivan·24 mins
Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade


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Faked because Ukrainian/Nato sides are pissed that all of their conv are leaked out.
"So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?"
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Paul Ivan&#8207;@paul2ivan·24 mins
Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade


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Could those two have been any more facetious? Just Saying. If this is the best of the intercepted conversations the west can leak then there must not be much there at all.
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This! And how are those 2 even relevant? What's next, they're going to leak some phone conversations of Russian citizens joking around about this subject?

It's really laughable - like they try hard to divert attention from embarrassing Nuland and Ashton leaks, now THOSE are leaks that actually meant something. This is just 2 guys having a lighthearted chat with no play or say in the whole thing.
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This is why our resident Russian shill under a US IP proxy, Sun Dancer, has been shilling this subject so hard.
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So he is a shill because he has braincells and uses them well everything I have seen posted by him has been on the ball
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Commie shills never work solo. Here is a backup
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Haha, why don't you try responding to the many comments I have made on the objective evidence we all have - the videos themselves - instead of resorting to insults?

By your defintion, the people painstakingly analyzing the actual evidence to understand what happened are "commie shills", and you, the Anonymous Coward spewing off one insult after another without any analysis or thought, what are you then? In two posts you have written 20 words, all insults.

So, please, do tell, who are you?
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still waiting for the invasion lol

I will post on page 3000 again. and i swear no invasion will have happened by then.

but the media sheeple will still think an invasion will happen.
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Paul Ivan&#8207;@paul2ivan·24 mins
Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade


 Quoting: < DL >


Faked because Ukrainian/Nato sides are pissed that all of their conv are leaked out.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I doubt that it is faked. A faked conversation would have something serious in it. These guys obviously weren't speaking seriously. No telling how it will be spun but that just reinforces that this is pure propaganda.

By contrast in the other leaked conversations the parties were deadly serious if you listen to them. Those might be worth faking. Not this one.
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Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade


 Quoting: < DL >


Faked because Ukrainian/Nato sides are pissed that all of their conv are leaked out.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I doubt that it is faked. A faked conversation would have something serious in it. These guys obviously weren't speaking seriously. No telling how it will be spun but that just reinforces that this is pure propaganda.

By contrast in the other leaked conversations the parties were deadly serious if you listen to them. Those might be worth faking. Not this one.
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It is obvious they were joking!!!! Miamiland, Californialand, Londonland - are you guys serious? Before then they were discussing the UN vote on recognizing the Crimea Referendum.

This is just silly
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Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade


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Faked because Ukrainian/Nato sides are pissed that all of their conv are leaked out.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I doubt that it is real. A real conversation would have their voices from other vids to compare to. These guys obviously aren't real. No telling how it will be spun but that just reinforces that this is pure Western propaganda.

By contrast in the other leaked conversations the parties were deadly serious if you listen to them. Those aren't fake. But this one is.
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I agree!

propoganda
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Leaked conversation between two Russian ambassadors talking about what other countries #Russia should now invade


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Faked because Ukrainian/Nato sides are pissed that all of their conv are leaked out.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I doubt that it is faked. A faked conversation would have something serious in it. These guys obviously weren't speaking seriously. No telling how it will be spun but that just reinforces that this is pure propaganda.

By contrast in the other leaked conversations the parties were deadly serious if you listen to them. Those might be worth faking. Not this one.
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It is obvious they were joking!!!! Miamiland, Californialand, Londonland - are you guys serious? Before then they were discussing the UN vote on recognizing the Crimea Referendum.

This is just silly
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Even if this is genuine, it's from two guys who have possibly the lowest ambassador positions in a region removed from the point of conflict. Do you think they know anything pertinent to where Russia will actually invade next...

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