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How can NATO push back against Russia? By letting Eastern European countries like Macedonia into the alliance
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Just talk, not a single real affirmation! No NATO or EU for Macedonia in near future. Greece will not allow that!

So be it!
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This one's for you Sundance - not that it is conclusive evidence of the size of build up as has been alleged by the West, but their certainly is an increase in prescence


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Commercial sat imagery showing part of the buildup of Russian forces close to Ukraine border around Belgorod [link to www.janes.com] …
 Quoting: Newshunter

I noticed you heaped praise on Jane's in another post on this topic, so I will point out the following about the pictures (in general, I do think Jane's is propaganda - i.e., an intelligence asset):

If you take the picture at the top-right, with the "31 March" caption, it is wider than the first two pictures. The left-most part of it, labeled "Additional military buildup", is not visible in the first 2 pictures. Hence it is not possible to make a comparison, which defeats the purpose of having this "timeline", no?

Also in that series of pictures, the left two images are dark and the right-most one light. This also makes any meaningful comparison impossible.

I think that these two aspects are actually intentional deception, because I don't think anyone serious about satellite reconnaissance would rely on pictures as were published.

The one picture they have of some more detail - [link to www.janes.com] (why isn't the top picture in this level of detail and in the same brightness???) - shows one small airplane and a few helicopters (at a military base, mind you). Invasion force? Really?

Seems like a pure propaganda piece to me - I would ask why publish such transparent propaganda but I guess some people will believe it.

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This one's for you Sundance - not that it is conclusive evidence of the size of build up as has been alleged by the West, but their certainly is an increase in prescence


gandalf greybeard‏@gerrydogma·43 mins
Commercial sat imagery showing part of the buildup of Russian forces close to Ukraine border around Belgorod [link to www.janes.com] …
 Quoting: Newshunter

I noticed you heaped praise on Jane's in another post on this topic, so I will point out the following about the pictures (in general, I do think Jane's is propaganda - i.e., an intelligence asset):

If you take the picture at the top-right, with the "31 March" caption, it is wider than the first two pictures. The left-most part of it, labeled "Additional military buildup", is not visible in the first 2 pictures. Hence it is not possible to make a comparison, which defeats the purpose of having this "timeline", no?

Also in that series of pictures, the left two images are dark and the right-most one light. This also makes any meaningful comparison impossible.

I think that these two aspects are actually intentional deception, because I don't think anyone serious about satellite reconnaissance would rely on pictures as were published.

The one picture they have of some more detail - [link to www.janes.com] (why isn't the top picture in this level of detail and in the same brightness???) - shows one small airplane and a few helicopters (at a military base, mind you). Invasion force? Really?

Seems like a pure propaganda piece to me - I would ask why publish such transparent propaganda but I guess some people will believe it.
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Pushkov: Kiev authorities cannot tell the truth about "the sniper"

Moscow, 4 Apr — RIA Novosti. The head of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs Alexei Pushkov said that the attack on Maidan in Kyiv can be fabricated, or forget about it, because the new Government of Ukraine will not be able to tell how everything happened really.

"The case of the attack on Maidan would either jammed or falsified: the Kiev authorities cannot afford to tell the truth about this," wrote Pushkov on Friday in his Office at Twitter.

[link to ria.ru]
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 12 min
US Threatens Russia With Sanctions Over Petrodollar-Busting Deal [link to www.zerohedge.com]



Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 19 min
Satellite pictures show Russian military buildup at Belgorod near Ukraine border [link to www.janes.com] … #Ukraine [link to twitter.com (secure)]


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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 12 min
US Threatens Russia With Sanctions Over Petrodollar-Busting Deal [link to www.zerohedge.com]





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Putin has imposed sanctions on the Nasdaq

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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 12 min
US Threatens Russia With Sanctions Over Petrodollar-Busting Deal [link to www.zerohedge.com]


 Quoting: Luisport


VoiceOfRussia: Russia prepares to attack the petrodollar

"The existence of “petrodollars” is one of the pillars of America's economic might because it creates a significant external demand for American currency, allowing the US to accumulate enormous debts without defaulting. If a Japanese buyer want to buy a barrel of Saudi oil, he has to pay in dollars even if no American oil company ever touches the said barrel. Dollar has held a dominant position in global trading for such a long time that even Gazprom's natural gas contracts for Europe are priced and paid for in US dollars. Until recently, a significant part of EU-China trade had been priced in dollars.

"Lately, China has led the BRICS efforts to dislodge the dollar from its position as the main global currency, but the “sanctions war” between Washington and Moscow gave an impetus to the long-awaited scheme to launch the petroruble and switch all Russian energy exports away from the US currency ."

[link to voiceofrussia.com]

Indeed, the neo-cons are completing the destruction of America (frankly, I cannot blame Russia or China, they are more or less forced to abandon the dollar - by neo-con policies).

The result will be massive austerity in USA.

Americans will finally wake up. But if they start to protest, they will get kicked in the teeth really hard. I don't expect any Euromaidans in Amerirahrahrah ....

Reminds me of the Churkin interview on CNN on Feb. 20. He asks rhetorically, "What would be the life expectancy of protesters throwing molotov cocktails on police (and setting them on fire) in the US"?

Indeed, what would it be? [link to www.youtube.com]
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W/ concerns re activities in #Moldova’s #Transnistria region, #OSCE mission must have unrestricted access: [link to 1.usa.gov]


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Putin has imposed sanctions on the Nasdaq

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wtf
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United States need to be forcefully kicked out of Europe and see their illegal occupation of Germany end.
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... and in Italy too.

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As a matter of fact, why doesn't the US just go home already. They are everywhere and constantly occupying some country or having their troops stationed there, citing threats for their national security of a country on the other end of the world. What the heck, isn't it time they leave.

GO HOME USA!

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The majority of Americans are great people. Why be so rude?
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I am just putting some more fire on gasoline :-) ...

North Korea tells world to 'wait and see' on new form of nuclear test

North Korea said on Friday that the world would have to "wait and see" when asked for details of "a new form" of nuclear test it threatened to carry out after the UN Security Council condemned Pyongyang's recent ballistic missile launch, Reuters reports.

[link to voiceofrussia.com]


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I am just putting some more fire on gasoline :-) ...

North Korea tells world to 'wait and see' on new form of nuclear test

North Korea said on Friday that the world would have to "wait and see" when asked for details of "a new form" of nuclear test it threatened to carry out after the UN Security Council condemned Pyongyang's recent ballistic missile launch, Reuters reports.

[link to voiceofrussia.com]


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Sounds ominous
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Protesters in Moldovan capital condemn NATO/US interference in other countries’ affairs

World April 04, 23:04 UTC+4

CHISINAU, April 04, /ITAR-TASS/. Participants in actions of protest held on Friday in front of the buildings of the U.S. embassy and NATO mission in Chisinau, the capital of Moldova, expressed their frustration with NATO and U.S. interference in the domestic affairs of other countries.

The pickets were organized by a number of public associations including Fatherland Eurasian Union, the Young Russians’ League and ‘I am Moldovan, I speak Moldovan’ on the occasion of a yet another anniversary since NATO’s foundation.

“We know what kind of purposes the North-Atlantic pact is pursuing and we don’t want our authorities to cooperate with it,” said Ivan Muntean, the leader of ‘I am Moldovan’. “This country has a neutral status and the fact is featured in our Constitution.”

“Hundreds of thousands of people died as a result of NATO operations in Yugoslavia and Belgrade, its capital, was heavily devastated,” said Viktor Kalashnikov, the leader of the Young Russians’ League.

“Tens of thousands of human lives have been taken away by the wars unleashed by NATO in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and other countries,” he said. “NATO is the evil force, an ominous creature with an axe to grind against the sisterly countries that once made up the USSR.”

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I am just putting some more fire on gasoline :-) ...

North Korea tells world to 'wait and see' on new form of nuclear test

North Korea said on Friday that the world would have to "wait and see" when asked for details of "a new form" of nuclear test it threatened to carry out after the UN Security Council condemned Pyongyang's recent ballistic missile launch, Reuters reports.

[link to voiceofrussia.com]


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some new type of nuclear cluster bomb?
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I am just putting some more fire on gasoline :-) ...

North Korea tells world to 'wait and see' on new form of nuclear test

North Korea said on Friday that the world would have to "wait and see" when asked for details of "a new form" of nuclear test it threatened to carry out after the UN Security Council condemned Pyongyang's recent ballistic missile launch, Reuters reports.

[link to voiceofrussia.com]


dead3
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some new type of nuclear cluster bomb?
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low yield, high altitude maybe?
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Ukraine Puts Mothballed Mig-29 Fighter Jets Back in Service

KIEV, April 4 (RIA Novosti) – Several mothballed Mikoyan Mig-29 Fulcrum fourth-generation fighter jets were returned to combat service in western Ukraine, the country’s Defense Ministry said on Friday.

“Specialists of our team have already returned several planes to service,” the ministry quoted an unnamed commander of an Air Force unit near Ivano-Frankivsk as saying. “We are now conducting test flights. Soon, more mothballed fighter jets will take off again.”

[link to en.ria.ru]
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I am just putting some more fire on gasoline :-) ...

North Korea tells world to 'wait and see' on new form of nuclear test

North Korea said on Friday that the world would have to "wait and see" when asked for details of "a new form" of nuclear test it threatened to carry out after the UN Security Council condemned Pyongyang's recent ballistic missile launch, Reuters reports.

[link to voiceofrussia.com]


dead3
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some new type of nuclear cluster bomb?
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low yield, high altitude maybe?
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Or just an above ground test. It likely isn't that remarkable.
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Ukraine Puts Mothballed Mig-29 Fighter Jets Back in Service

KIEV, April 4 (RIA Novosti) – Several mothballed Mikoyan Mig-29 Fulcrum fourth-generation fighter jets were returned to combat service in western Ukraine, the country’s Defense Ministry said on Friday.

“Specialists of our team have already returned several planes to service,” the ministry quoted an unnamed commander of an Air Force unit near Ivano-Frankivsk as saying. “We are now conducting test flights. Soon, more mothballed fighter jets will take off again.”

[link to en.ria.ru]
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Fine planes those Migs!
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 12 min
US Threatens Russia With Sanctions Over Petrodollar-Busting Deal [link to www.zerohedge.com]



Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 19 min
Satellite pictures show Russian military buildup at Belgorod near Ukraine border [link to www.janes.com] … #Ukraine [link to twitter.com (secure)]



 Quoting: Luisport


Luis my friend!!!
That's the escalation I been waiting for!!
Once the petro dollar is under attack, WW3 is just around the corner!!!

PS!! Sorry for not posting so much, got work over my head

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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge · 12 min
US Threatens Russia With Sanctions Over Petrodollar-Busting Deal [link to www.zerohedge.com]



Gregor Peter ‏@L0gg0l · 19 min
Satellite pictures show Russian military buildup at Belgorod near Ukraine border [link to www.janes.com] … #Ukraine [link to twitter.com (secure)]



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It is reported that there are 12000 people in Crimea infected with HIV. And Russia is going to stop the Methadone treatment program which will cause big problems for some 800+ drug addicts. I wonder how many of them voted to go to Russia?
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I am just putting some more fire on gasoline :-) ...

North Korea tells world to 'wait and see' on new form of nuclear test

North Korea said on Friday that the world would have to "wait and see" when asked for details of "a new form" of nuclear test it threatened to carry out after the UN Security Council condemned Pyongyang's recent ballistic missile launch, Reuters reports.

[link to voiceofrussia.com]


dead3
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some new type of nuclear cluster bomb?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56432896


low yield, high altitude maybe?
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not what i was thinking, but good idea. certainly a low yield device of some sort
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I am just putting some more fire on gasoline :-) ...

North Korea tells world to 'wait and see' on new form of nuclear test

North Korea said on Friday that the world would have to "wait and see" when asked for details of "a new form" of nuclear test it threatened to carry out after the UN Security Council condemned Pyongyang's recent ballistic missile launch, Reuters reports.

[link to voiceofrussia.com]


dead3
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some new type of nuclear cluster bomb?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56432896


low yield, high altitude maybe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55875488


Or just an above ground test. It likely isn't that remarkable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54504562


this fire needs more gasoline...
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It is reported that there are 12000 people in Crimea infected with HIV. And Russia is going to stop the Methadone treatment program which will cause big problems for some 800+ drug addicts. I wonder how many of them voted to go to Russia?
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most methadone users know that methadone is a bigger problem than the problem itself.
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Thousands of Ukrainian Soldiers in Crimea Apply For Russian Citizenship

MOSCOW, April 4 (RIA Novosti) – Most Ukrainian soldiers on service in Crimea voiced their wish to join the Russian Armed Forces and they were granted this opportunity, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said on Friday.

“As of today over 8,000 of these soldiers have submitted paperwork to get Russian passports. Around 3,000 of them have already been assigned duties. We now have to create conditions for their speedy adjustment to serving in the Russian army,” Shoigu said at an off-schedule ministerial meeting.

The Russian defense minister also stated that the Ukrainian soldiers could easily leave Crimea to return to Ukraine.

[link to en.ria.ru]
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some new type of nuclear cluster bomb?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56432896


low yield, high altitude maybe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55875488


Or just an above ground test. It likely isn't that remarkable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54504562


this fire needs more gasoline...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56432896


LOL... cruise ...LOL... cruise LOL

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