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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Ukraine foils coup attempt; 300 machine guns, antitank grenade launcher seized
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Astrologers know that the cosmic influence on the global situation will be extremely serious and dangerous in the last decade of April, especially around 21-st of April. The planets form so called "big cross" which includes Pluto, Uranus, Jupiter and Mars. This configuration directly affects the horoscope of Russia as well as the horoscope of president Putin. Such astrological influence is very rare. Last time something similar happended in the year 1192. It is possible that a big war or a great political instability may happen during this period.
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ok guys no more bullshit guesses.

To figure out whats going on all you have to do is add up whats been happening lately in Ukraine and the world.
Basically heres how it is.
1/ The Eu and America backed a coup in Ukraine and put in radical right wingers eg Nazi sympathisers, they follow the nazi ideology.
2/ Russia seen this as an American and NWO lead move to take yet another ex soviet state and put corrupt officials in power that the Eu and America eg the NWO could Bribe and control.
By opening an IMF loan and a central bank controlled by the NWO.
3/ Russia put in troops to secure Ukraine eg elf Defence Forces, by means of stealth in plain sight eg no Russian insignia on their uniforms but obviously Russian. Brilliant move as it let Russia take Ukraine and America and Nato could do nothing without proof the forces were Russian.
4/ Putin has kept the Majority of the forces used in Crimea on the Border of Ukraine and added to them slowly so as not to escalate to quickly. Until he can create either a false flag or stir up dissent among the Russians and Russian speakers by raising gas prices and making the Crimea look far better than Ukraine so as to stir resentment against the Ukraine Right party eg Nazis in power.
5/ Putin is a master of Chess and he is 100% thinking in advance, he will wait till the gas prices bite and in the mean time he will stir hatred against the current Ukraine leaders and other provinces in Ukraine. Once the rioting and violence begins, which it will he will go into the areas that he has destabilised and again will try to use the same process eg Self Defence Forces. Putin has no choice, the Bankers, globalists, America, Eu, and Nato eg the NWO are making their final push at a World Government but need Russia and China out of the picture. Putin knows this and he either puts up a defence now by securing his borders or the NWO will slowly but surely take every border country or province and block him in. Once Russia is blocked in the NWO will create unrest in Russia as they have been doing for years to try and collapse the Country from within. The only problem is Putin is wise to the game and is playing by his rules.
5/ This will eventually come to a point of no return and war will be the outcome. We are seeing the financial beginnings and the movement of military resources for a third world war. The NWO are only needing one thing and that is for Putin to shoot first. They need a bad guy to blame for a global financial collapse. But they need it to build up and look like they tried to avert a war so after all is said and done they can come out of it as the good guys. Public opinion is already against America and the Eu so they cannot go to war yet. We seen them bow to public opinion about syria and the end result was no WAR. If the general public get swayed to believe Russia is the bad guy then the NWO will use NATO and go to War with Russia. If Russia does not invade as the NWO want, then no doubt we will see some type of False Flag attack on a NATO member to kick it all off.
It is quite obvious the NWO want and need a large war. All the talk about Russian Troops buiding up on Ukraines borders is proof. If Russia wanted to invade they would have done it while Ukraine was weak just after the protests. Russia and Putin are not stupid they know exactly what is going on and will not give a reason for NATO to attack them. The only way the NWO get their war and a big bad Russian enemy is via the good ole tried asnd true FALSE FLAG. Enter the missing malaysian plane. Ukraine and the missing flight are connected. We will soon see how it all plays out, but it seems there is no escaping a Third World War. Russia will not back down, if they do its the end for them.
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False flag is imminent!

GLP will be all over it!
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Anyway, I am pretty convinced that Sun Dancer is one of Village People. He was born, bred and educated in Potemkin Village. :)
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Is Kumrovec still there? Not burned or ground leveled?
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Sorry I don't have FT subscription. But having read numerous FT articles, I predict it says: "Russia bad bad bad bad bad bad bad", followed by "Putin evil evil evil evil". That sum it up?

As a general matter, I would tend to agree as relations between parties become more strained, one side or another is not inclined to be as lenient as in the past.

But whether politically motivated or not, it is not "economic coercion". If you like paying for news/information and keep this discussion going, I think this law review piece would be useful ( [link to heinonline.org] ), we can read it together :).

The real economic coercion going on in the world is pretty much centered around the US and its "sanctions" regime, currently for North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Syria, etc. As well as Israel in the Gaza Strip.
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I don't have a FT subscription either but the article was visible. It shows how Russia has been using politically-motivated trade bans to coerce former USSR states away from signing AA agreements with the EU.

If Russia supports an armed insurrection against a democratically-elected government, you can make your arguments, and I would agree it is unlawful meddling (but would not listen to any bloviating hypocrites condemning it). In the meantime, you are blowing smoke.
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Armed insurrection? Now you're tripping.

Anyway, you support Russia moving in and annexing a chunk of Ukraine.

At best your best argument is "but but but, the US does shit too, look at what the US did, look, look!".

Two wrongs don't make a right.

At best you want people to say "fuck this, US is mean and craps on international law too; so Russia can do it too".

Even for those who take this view this still means Russia has lost the moral high ground it used to take so much pride in before - respect for sovereignty, international law, non-intervention. And so on. It was propaganda before too, but now it is obvious.
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Nationalist-linked Ukraine reporter found murdered
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well world, there`s your chance not to be rottet out. Don`t mess up this time
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well world, there`s your chance not to be rottet out. Don`t mess up this time
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well world, there`s your chance not to be rottet out. Don`t mess up this time
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well world, there`s your chance not to be rottet out. Don`t mess up this time
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three different sources saying the same weird thing?
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well world, there`s your chance not to be rottet out. Don`t mess up this time
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three different sources saying the same weird thing?
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Most likely one person using 3 different IP's
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80000 people have signed a petition in Alaska to join russia.

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well world, there`s your chance not to be rottet out. Don`t mess up this time
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three different sources saying the same weird thing?
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
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Since when does the person not paying their creditors/suppliers get to dictate their pricing options?
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Ever since the US told them they had their back.
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
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Since when does the person not paying their creditors/suppliers get to dictate their pricing options?
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Ever since the US told them they had their back.
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Again?
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80000 people have signed a petition in Alaska to join russia.

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source= belgian media btw
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well world, there`s your chance not to be rottet out. Don`t mess up this time
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well world, there`s your chance not to be rottet out. Don`t mess up this time

..............
I join that declaration!
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80000 people have signed a petition in Alaska to join russia.

O.o
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source= belgian media btw
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So Alaskans want to become like Siberia??? What the fuck?
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80000 people have signed a petition in Alaska to join russia.

O.o
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source= belgian media btw
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So Alaskans want to become like Siberia??? What the fuck?
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I highly doubt that 80000 people who in the US signed this. I also would b real supprised if 80 people I'm Alaska would want this to happen or signed. Remember it'san onl ine petition anyone can fake anything.
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Thread: "Crimea is Ours, Alaska is Next"...Now Russians are petitioning for Alaska to be returned to Russia

With our douchebag collectivist american apologist limp dicked foreign policy and rumored recruitment by KGB it may just happen

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80000 people have signed a petition in Alaska to join russia.

O.o
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source= belgian media btw
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Link?
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Anyway, I am pretty convinced that Sun Dancer is one of Village People. He was born, bred and educated in Potemkin Village. :)
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Is Kumrovec still there? Not burned or ground leveled?
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Yep, it's still there. It fucked us good and proper...but it made Macedonia and Macedonians...as well as "Boshnjaks" :) You are no longer southern Serb who talks funny. Maybe you are Greek or Albanian? Or Bulgarian?
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i asked my off the grid mate in alaska (he loves photo-ing the aroara nightly).. if he signed it...

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Anyway, I am pretty convinced that Sun Dancer is one of Village People. He was born, bred and educated in Potemkin Village. :)
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Is Kumrovec still there? Not burned or ground leveled?
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Yep, it's still there. It fucked us good and proper...but it made Macedonia and Macedonians...as well as "Boshnjaks" :) You are no longer southern Serb who talks funny. Maybe you are Greek or Albanian? Or Bulgarian?
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Well, it saved you from being austrian horse wanker!
Well for a time, now you are in EU which comes pretty much the same!
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80000 people have signed a petition in Alaska to join russia.

O.o
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source= belgian media btw
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Link?
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Thousands sign WhiteHouse.gov petition for Alaska to secede -- to Russia

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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80000 people have signed a petition in Alaska to join russia.

O.o
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source= belgian media btw
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Link?
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Thousands sign WhiteHouse.gov petition for Alaska to secede -- to Russia

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it's legit.. it was on main stream a week or so ago
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 1 h
#BREAKING Pro-Russia Ukrainian protesters storm government building in Donetsk - AFP pic.twitter.com/QfCMlctma2




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Moody’s downgrades Ukraine to ‘default imminent’ [link to rt.com]




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Moody’s downgrades Ukraine to ‘default imminent’ [link to rt.com]





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Is this how the new Ukraine will present itself to the world, one that takes matters to the courts, bit funny when the price hike was the end of the discounted price that Russia made available back in November.

[link to www.naharnet.com]

Since the gas is not all used by the Ukraine it would be normal policy for an IMF ruled nation to claim all gas coming in as belonging to them and any exports would be under the rules as if it was a native product of the Ukraine and as such the price can be adjusted no matter what deal Russia has made with other Nations and used pipelines to transport it across the Ukraine.

Quebec does the same with NFLD created electricity before it is sold to the US. They make a lot of money by doing something that is basically being nothing more than a middle man. (it does show how the whole system works though, high prices due to 'delivery complications')

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