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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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THE BMPS SURRENDED CREW WERE FORCED TO ABANDON DID NOT DEFECT

CREW HAVE RETURNED TO UKRAINE ARMY
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Live feed from Slaviansk
no tanks
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wHAT is the thing in the background? a APC?.
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Chances of Kiev being left with no choice but to accept Putin's demands rising. Clear today the military cannot be used to regain control
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What are Putin's demands?
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Crimea, Federalization and no NATO bases on Ukraine.
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Nato a given :)
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THE BMPS SURRENDED CREW WERE FORCED TO ABANDON DID NOT DEFECT

CREW HAVE RETURNED TO UKRAINE ARMY
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to get more stuff for the Russians? excellent plan overall.
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laid up with a slipped disc, thread needs to speed up a bit im going stir crazy. Into my 7th week :(
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ukranian soldiers going to airfield
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Ukraine's defense minister is traveling to Kramatorsk to clarify situation on troops and armored troops carriers, government says - @Reuters
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anyone think there will be a deal made tommorow its the only wy kiev can get something out of the whole situation without losing too much
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My uncle, ex Brit navy Intel, tells me negotiations are nearly over with the "interim" UKR govt having agreed to leaving for Argentina aboard German submarine's, they were gona go in the ukrainian sub but the crew has joined the federalists, they are being allowed to take the 30 ounces of gold they have left after the US grabbed their bank, the only hold up is Julia hairdo wanting her 300 swiss bank books back before she goes but it is believed 200 of the books want Putin to save them from the Nazi.
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THE BMPS SURRENDED CREW WERE FORCED TO ABANDON DID NOT DEFECT

CREW HAVE RETURNED TO UKRAINE ARMY
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Link ?
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The Ukrainian military looks like they have no desire to fight and hand out tanks/APCs like it's christmas. Kiev has no control anymore and it's grand anti terror op already looks like a near complete failure and a morale boost for the opposing side.

Hell, if Russia would decide to roll in right now i bet they wouldn't meet next to no resistance. The fact that the Ukrainian military hasn't issued a statement regarding their stance on this whole matter leaves us guessing on who'se side they are really on.

Remember, they were almost put into action in Kiev to fight Maidan protestors and were then called off.

I think we'll be seeing more of these kind of desertions and then the Anti Maidan will be a clear 2nd force in Ukraine's southeast regions.

I wonder how this country will look like in a few months time...
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A deal tomorrow will only work if Ukraine or Russia backs down. I cant see that happening to much distrust. Its possible the Ukrainians may pull all their forces back and allow peace keepers till the election, but that would probably not sit well with Russia as they don't trust nato or the Eu thats what got this started in the first place. So lets see ?

Will they agree to both back off till elections ?
no because Russia wont trust the results.

Will Russia do a deal to split Ukraine east and west ?
no because he needs the entire Ukraine eg Kiev.

Will they talk and talk with no results and agree to talk latter.
yes because Kerry and Lavrov have already talked and talked with no results, surely if there was a solution then Kerry and Lavrov would have come to an agreement ?

I think we are seeing a stalling game while the elites decide what to do to try and make Russia look bad. Maybee they dont have their False Flag ready yet ? hymmmm Easter would be an ideal time don't you think ? Yes they are that desperate.

Be ready people, anything is possible at this point.
The Cia obviously gave the Ukrainians the go ahead for a military response. Why else did the Ukraine government wait so long ? They were waiting on Russia to invade. The military action by Ukraine is to lure Russia into invading.
THE ELITES WANT A WAR !
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I'm hopeful that the current situation on the ground indicates stalemate and hence a deal is in everybodies interest.

Kiev must now realise they cannot control the East and hence will have to negotiate with them.
Moscow, although stirring the pot, does not seem able to martial a popular uprising in the east.
A full on invasion by Russia would mean they 'own' the problem and would make them look bad, esp when people are killed.

Hence I think some deal will be done, I have also noticed that Lavrov no longer seems to talk about federalisation, only taking the south and east into account.

We'll see tomorrow.
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anyone think there will be a deal made tommorow its the only wy kiev can get something out of the whole situation without losing too much
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56703886


My uncle, ex Brit navy Intel, tells me negotiations are nearly over with the "interim" UKR govt having agreed to leaving for Argentina aboard German submarine's, they were gona go in the ukrainian sub but the crew has joined the federalists, they are being allowed to take the 30 ounces of gold they have left after the US grabbed their bank, the only hold up is Julia hairdo wanting her 300 swiss bank books back before she goes but it is believed 200 of the books want Putin to save them from the Nazi.
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Lmao
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[link to russian.rt.com]
Ukrainian army didn't feed us 4 days, said the soldiers who switched sides in Slaviansk...



I can believe that, taking into account the methods of economic submission of population taken by Maidan rulers, as 50% decrease of pensions...
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Live feed from Slaviansk
no tanks
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


wHAT is the thing in the background? a APC?.
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yes it is a BMP with a 57mm cannon on it I believe.
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4 apcs with Ukrainian vdv flags arrived to reinforce airfield

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Ukrainian army didn't feed us 4 days, said the soldiers who switched sides in Slaviansk...



I can believe that, taking into account the methods of economic submission of population taken by Maidan rulers, as 50% decrease of pensions...
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RT ..bsflag
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Live feed from Slaviansk
no tanks
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


wHAT is the thing in the background? a APC?.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56864973


yes it is a BMP with a 57mm cannon on it I believe.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Thanks, and those two soldiers on the feed to the left are interesting to watch. I have a feeling the one on the right was gay or just really edgy when men walked past him.

As i type this they switched the feed.
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It seems to me as they surrendered.
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lol ukraine, they make the french look tough.
 Quoting: The Nihilist


A Ukrainian and a Frenchman walk into a Bar and they ask

for a White Russian, the Bartender pours them the drinks

and the they promptly Surrender.

Why did the Ukrainian Army Cross the Road to get away from the Russian Tanks.

Like I said the Ukrainian Flag should be a Yellow Chicken

on a Field of White.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


More like they don't want to die for US banksters interests!
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Well said, 6843! We find a trio of sad, doomsturbatory keyboard warriors above, taking the piss out of the heroes of common sense who recognise the futility of the violence that an illegal coup regime is trying to order them into.
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Live feed from Slaviansk
no tanks
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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wHAT is the thing in the background? a APC?.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56864973


yes it is a BMP with a 57mm cannon on it I believe.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


BMP1

[link to www.militaryfactory.com]

BMP2

[link to www.militaryfactory.com]

BMP3

[link to www.militaryfactory.com]
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Live feed from Slaviansk
no tanks
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


wHAT is the thing in the background? a APC?.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56864973


yes it is a BMP with a 57mm cannon on it I believe.
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Thanks, and those two soldiers on the feed to the left are interesting to watch. I have a feeling the one on the right was gay or just really edgy when men walked past him.

As i type this they switched the feed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56864973


one of them also had a RPG 26
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Moscow urges French Foreign Minister not to accuse Russia of all of Ukraine's problems [link to en.itar-tass.com] @ambruspresse
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4 apcs with Ukrainian vdv flags arrived to reinforce airfield

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No, the flags are of russian VDV airborne unit. These APC's are the ones taken before from UKR army in Kromatorsk!
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WILL PEOPLE STOP FUCKING GENERALIZING ABOUT UKR ARMY. There are some units that are still in shape. Similar claims were made against Russian military before Georgia and Crimea too. Or Syrian military. Current gov fails to mobilize and utilize military correctly - but it does not mean its non existent and has no punch.
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Ukrainian army didn't feed us 4 days, said the soldiers who switched sides in Slaviansk...



I can believe that, taking into account the methods of economic submission of population taken by Maidan rulers, as 50% decrease of pensions...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


RT ..bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1563274


It is the soldiers who say it, not I.
I can believe the new Kiev govt is capable of doing that, in spite of the economic depression. It is not the first Eastern European government that came after socialism that lowered wages and pensions amid hyperinflation. To submission of population. And of the soldiers in this case who should fight if they want to be fed.

They simply surrendered for food. Reports said the local people fed them with milk. I didn't understand why? Now I know.

Kiev is going crazy and demonic. Especially if they try to storm with heavy guns. Unfortunately they are not the only anti-people's government in this damned planet. That survives several more weeks thanks to Putin's disinterest to start WW3. Some call him traitor for that. Hear what Zhirinovski and Zyuganov speak. Every patience has a limit. It remains Poland to send well fed up troops and you have a direct war started. It won't be spared this time.
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WILL PEOPLE STOP FUCKING GENERALIZING ABOUT UKR ARMY. There are some units that are still in shape. Similar claims were made against Russian military before Georgia and Crimea too. Or Syrian military. Current gov fails to mobilize and utilize military correctly - but it does not mean its non existent and has no punch.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48457718


To punch who?
The unarmed people?
The junta?
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2 Ukrainian soldiers, 1 of them an officer, taken hostage by 'extremists,' Ukrainian Defense Ministry claims - @cnnbrk
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Think no one heard you just seen this on sky news breaking HUGE NEWSsiren2

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4 apcs with Ukrainian vdv flags arrived to reinforce airfield

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48457718


No, the flags are of russian VDV airborne unit. These APC's are the ones taken before from UKR army in Kromatorsk!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3513347


You're right. So the Russians have re-taken the airport that Ukraine was so proud to have captured yesterday, and did it with Ukrainuan armor. What a clusterfuck.
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THE FLAGS ARE UKRANIAN
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2 Ukrainian soldiers, 1 of them an officer, taken hostage by 'extremists,' Ukrainian Defense Ministry claims - @cnnbrk
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Think no one heard you just seen this on sky news breaking HUGE NEWSsiren2siren2:siren2
 Quoting: djdandew1


huge? they killed an officer yesterday and nothing happened. how is this HUGE now?





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