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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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looks like a deal has been made people crisis could be over
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Lol if there's a deal. You can bet Syria is a part of it and maybe Iran.
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I don't get what a deal could look like???
Russia will not give up Crimea???
Putin can't do that!!
So what kind of deal???
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This conference was not about Crimea but Eastern Ukraine. Crimea crisis at this point is achieved.
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The only deal I see is if Russia agrees on moving the military from the borders!!! We will see!!!
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MORE MOTHER FUCKING LIES

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RT is always on lol

BREAKING: #Ukraine imposes harsh entrance restrictions on male Russian citizens [link to on.rt.com]
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closure of land borders is likely to follow.

Apart from women traditionally seen as non combatants, the reason women are being allowed is they dont want to be seen to be breaking family links, with those who have family in Ukraine and Russia.
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there will indeed be some NATO troops sent to Ukraine. They are calling it "temporary" and an "exercise", including NATO air assets over Kiev.
 Quoting: Janey


Aren't those exercises supposed to be taking place quite a bit later in the year? (July comes to mind).

I can see them being cancelled if "events" take over.
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yep, the current logic is that they will bring them forward
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My gut tells me this is a ploy to force Putin's hand.
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RT is always on lol

BREAKING: #Ukraine imposes harsh entrance restrictions on male Russian citizens [link to on.rt.com]
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Must have connection to the arrests last night
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Lol if there's a deal. You can bet Syria is a part of it and maybe Iran.
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I don't get what a deal could look like???
Russia will not give up Crimea???
Putin can't do that!!
So what kind of deal???
 Quoting: Limpan


This conference was not about Crimea but Eastern Ukraine. Crimea crisis at this point is achieved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56956235


If there is a deal the people of Ukraine will be the big loosers I think. The only deal that could be made is that Russia pulls back from the borders at the same time as a referendum for autonomy in the eastern Ukraine. Which basically means Russia backs down and the East goes independant (russian in the longer run).
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one of the main talking points was a referendum for the east and greater autonomy, so IF there is a deal it will be around that framework
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joint statement means crises over and doom off theyll come in holding hands
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I'm here again! hf
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Welcome back oh mighty threadmaker!

hf
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tounge
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I don't get what a deal could look like???
Russia will not give up Crimea???
Putin can't do that!!
So what kind of deal???
 Quoting: Limpan


This conference was not about Crimea but Eastern Ukraine. Crimea crisis at this point is achieved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56956235


If there is a deal the people of Ukraine will be the big loosers I think. The only deal that could be made is that Russia pulls back from the borders at the same time as a referendum for autonomy in the eastern Ukraine. Which basically means Russia backs down and the East goes independant (russian in the longer run).
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


one of the main talking points was a referendum for the east and greater autonomy, so IF there is a deal it will be around that framework
 Quoting: Janey


of course, Ukraine has very little choice but to agree some framework to avoid war. They have no cards to play. I am still on the fence though as to whether a deal has been done. Not a word has leaked out.
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I'm here again! hf
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Welcome to the party
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I'm here again! hf
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Welcome back oh mighty threadmaker!

hf
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Lol
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joint statement means crises over and doom off theyll come in holding hands
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56703886


Well EU/Kerry will make a statement. Lavrov will make a statement separately. Could mean that the talks failed as well.

[link to www.nbcnews.com] Kerry/Ashton

[link to www.euronews.com] Lavrov
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joint statement means crises over and doom off theyll come in holding hands
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joint statement usually signals a deal, but not always. Sometimes it is a case of we agree to talk about keeping talking
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I hope they hurry up daylights burning lol
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joint statement means crises over and doom off theyll come in holding hands
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56703886


Even if there is joint statement doesn't mean things will calm down

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I'm here again! hf
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Welcome back oh mighty threadmaker!

hf
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Lol
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praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Moscow's AP correspondent picking up on this story now as well:


Laura Mills‏@lauraphylmills15m
Aeroflot says it was told by Ukrainian authorities
that any Russian men between 16 and 60 are barred from entering:
[link to www.aeroflot.ru]
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I'm here again! hf
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Welcome back oh mighty threadmaker!

hf
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Lol
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praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals.
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bump
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I'm here again! hf
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Welcome back oh mighty threadmaker!

hf
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Lol
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praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals.
 Quoting: Janey


Could there really be a deal getting out of this on this situation right now??
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I'm here again! hf
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Welcome back oh mighty threadmaker!

hf
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Lol
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praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals.
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No please, for those who belive and i'm one of those there are only One Lord... hf
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longest waiting ever for a statement..
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joint statement means crises over and doom off theyll come in holding hands
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56703886


joint statement usually signals a deal, but not always. Sometimes it is a case of we agree to talk about keeping talking
 Quoting: Janey


this is the most likely scenario...they will agree to keep talking..while shtf on the ground.
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Welcome back oh mighty threadmaker!

hf
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Lol
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praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals.
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No please, for those who belive and i'm one of those there are only One Lord... hf
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Luis why so late off days?
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Ukraine notified Russian "Aeroflot" that all citizens of the Russian Federation males age 16 to 60 will be refused entry
[link to russian.rt.com]

What a joke! So they still need the women
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721


The question is how will Ukrainians defend their women when Russian army will cross the border? It will be a generation of baby boomers following the Russian invasion...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33660845


I am almost sorryf or translating it word by word in previous post. Seems the ban is now valid for all entry not only by Aeroflot.

But please, it is only for the men, not for everyone! I can't resist to ask: how about the gays that Russia doesn't like?
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I'd like to know that too..are Russian gays welcomed? poop
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Welcome back oh mighty threadmaker!

hf
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Lol
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praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals.
 Quoting: Janey


Could there really be a deal getting out of this on this situation right now??
 Quoting: Limpan


something along the lines of autonomous regions, agreement to let the Russian population do their thing. A sort of halfway house between joining Russia and being Ukraine.
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Lol
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praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals.
 Quoting: Janey


Could there really be a deal getting out of this on this situation right now??
 Quoting: Limpan


something along the lines of autonomous regions, agreement to let the Russian population do their thing. A sort of halfway house between joining Russia and being Ukraine.
 Quoting: Janey


Hard to control?? And what about the economy?? Always follow the money!!!

hf
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Moscow's AP correspondent picking up on this story now as well:


Laura Mills‏@lauraphylmills15m
Aeroflot says it was told by Ukrainian authorities
that any Russian men between 16 and 60 are barred from entering:
[link to www.aeroflot.ru]
 Quoting: Newshunter


this makes me wonder about whether they reached a deal, unless the Ukrainians in Geneva have not been phoning home with progress. Strange timing if their negotiators were signalling a deal back to Kiev
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press now leaving Lavrov room, wtf





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