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Limpan User ID: 1474973 Sweden 04/17/2014 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Lol if there's a deal. You can bet Syria is a part of it and maybe Iran. I don't get what a deal could look like??? Russia will not give up Crimea??? Putin can't do that!! So what kind of deal??? This conference was not about Crimea but Eastern Ukraine. Crimea crisis at this point is achieved. The only deal I see is if Russia agrees on moving the military from the borders!!! We will see!!! |
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Janey User ID: 56385855 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT is always on lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56956235 BREAKING: #Ukraine imposes harsh entrance restrictions on male Russian citizens [link to on.rt.com] closure of land borders is likely to follow. Apart from women traditionally seen as non combatants, the reason women are being allowed is they dont want to be seen to be breaking family links, with those who have family in Ukraine and Russia. delivering the news |
Doom Master User ID: 45874141 United States 04/17/2014 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 there will indeed be some NATO troops sent to Ukraine. They are calling it "temporary" and an "exercise", including NATO air assets over Kiev. Quoting: Janey Aren't those exercises supposed to be taking place quite a bit later in the year? (July comes to mind). I can see them being cancelled if "events" take over. yep, the current logic is that they will bring them forward My gut tells me this is a ploy to force Putin's hand. Ever closer to darkness we ride relentless hell hounds by our side.... ....I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hellfire was following close behind him...... Just keeping the score..... |
Limpan User ID: 1474973 Sweden 04/17/2014 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT is always on lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56956235 BREAKING: #Ukraine imposes harsh entrance restrictions on male Russian citizens [link to on.rt.com] Must have connection to the arrests last night |
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Janey User ID: 56385855 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56550877 Lol if there's a deal. You can bet Syria is a part of it and maybe Iran. I don't get what a deal could look like??? Russia will not give up Crimea??? Putin can't do that!! So what kind of deal??? This conference was not about Crimea but Eastern Ukraine. Crimea crisis at this point is achieved. If there is a deal the people of Ukraine will be the big loosers I think. The only deal that could be made is that Russia pulls back from the borders at the same time as a referendum for autonomy in the eastern Ukraine. Which basically means Russia backs down and the East goes independant (russian in the longer run). one of the main talking points was a referendum for the east and greater autonomy, so IF there is a deal it will be around that framework delivering the news |
Nordic Wolf User ID: 56962363 Sweden 04/17/2014 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Welcome back oh mighty threadmaker! Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
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Janey User ID: 56385855 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Limpan I don't get what a deal could look like??? Russia will not give up Crimea??? Putin can't do that!! So what kind of deal??? This conference was not about Crimea but Eastern Ukraine. Crimea crisis at this point is achieved. If there is a deal the people of Ukraine will be the big loosers I think. The only deal that could be made is that Russia pulls back from the borders at the same time as a referendum for autonomy in the eastern Ukraine. Which basically means Russia backs down and the East goes independant (russian in the longer run). one of the main talking points was a referendum for the east and greater autonomy, so IF there is a deal it will be around that framework of course, Ukraine has very little choice but to agree some framework to avoid war. They have no cards to play. I am still on the fence though as to whether a deal has been done. Not a word has leaked out. delivering the news |
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Nordic Wolf User ID: 56962363 Sweden 04/17/2014 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 joint statement means crises over and doom off theyll come in holding hands Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56703886 Well EU/Kerry will make a statement. Lavrov will make a statement separately. Could mean that the talks failed as well. [link to www.nbcnews.com] Kerry/Ashton [link to www.euronews.com] Lavrov Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
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Limpan User ID: 1474973 Sweden 04/17/2014 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 joint statement means crises over and doom off theyll come in holding hands Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56703886 Even if there is joint statement doesn't mean things will calm down Last Edited by Limpan on 04/17/2014 09:37 AM |
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Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 04/17/2014 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Moscow's AP correspondent picking up on this story now as well: Laura Mills‏@lauraphylmills15m Aeroflot says it was told by Ukrainian authorities that any Russian men between 16 and 60 are barred from entering: [link to www.aeroflot.ru] |
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GodzillaReturns Apex Predator User ID: 1077295 United States 04/17/2014 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 joint statement means crises over and doom off theyll come in holding hands Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56703886 joint statement usually signals a deal, but not always. Sometimes it is a case of we agree to talk about keeping talking this is the most likely scenario...they will agree to keep talking..while shtf on the ground. For the ACs..there is NOTHING that you can do to me on this platform..you can throw all the insults you want won’t do a thing because IDGAF If you give me red don’t be a pussy and put your name on it. Have the balls to stand by what you say |
Star Fhisp User ID: 56962606 Indonesia 04/17/2014 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals. No please, for those who belive and i'm one of those there are only One Lord... Luis why so late off days? "So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56916983 Slovenia 04/17/2014 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ukraine notified Russian "Aeroflot" that all citizens of the Russian Federation males age 16 to 60 will be refused entry Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54888721 [link to russian.rt.com] What a joke! So they still need the women The question is how will Ukrainians defend their women when Russian army will cross the border? It will be a generation of baby boomers following the Russian invasion... I am almost sorryf or translating it word by word in previous post. Seems the ban is now valid for all entry not only by Aeroflot. But please, it is only for the men, not for everyone! I can't resist to ask: how about the gays that Russia doesn't like? I'd like to know that too..are Russian gays welcomed? |
Janey User ID: 56385855 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals. Could there really be a deal getting out of this on this situation right now?? something along the lines of autonomous regions, agreement to let the Russian population do their thing. A sort of halfway house between joining Russia and being Ukraine. delivering the news |
Limpan User ID: 1474973 Sweden 04/17/2014 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 praise be to the Lord Of The Thread for ThreadLord Luis walks amongst us mere mortals. Could there really be a deal getting out of this on this situation right now?? something along the lines of autonomous regions, agreement to let the Russian population do their thing. A sort of halfway house between joining Russia and being Ukraine. Hard to control?? And what about the economy?? Always follow the money!!! |
Janey User ID: 56385855 United Kingdom 04/17/2014 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Moscow's AP correspondent picking up on this story now as well: Quoting: Newshunter Laura Mills‏@lauraphylmills15m Aeroflot says it was told by Ukrainian authorities that any Russian men between 16 and 60 are barred from entering: [link to www.aeroflot.ru] this makes me wonder about whether they reached a deal, unless the Ukrainians in Geneva have not been phoning home with progress. Strange timing if their negotiators were signalling a deal back to Kiev delivering the news |
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