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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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I wonder if this is being done with tacit approval of Moscow. Would be stupid of Kiev if not. Perhaps Moscow has become embarrassed by separatists after murders etc. We'll soon see.
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Are the Ukrainien miltay station just inside the border where the Russian forces are massing??

I mean they will not the just be able to walk in, RIGHT???
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they are but spread quite thinly along the border with primarily armour
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AT THE SAME TIME


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Obama issues stark warning to Russia that new economic sanctions are 'teed up!!

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After all the jokes about golf, he used that term.
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Fighting has erupted just outside Slavyansk, a town in east Ukraine where population voiced their protest against Kiev authorities. Ukrainian troops on tanks and armored vehicles are trying to break into the town.

According to the witnesses reporting on Twitter, Slavyansk self-defense forces are now burning tires to hamper the entrance of infantry vehicles from Kiev into the city.

Police has announced the beginning of the crackdown via loudspeakers and a special vehicle is currently patrolling the streets warning local people about the crackdown.

The local citizens in the city are preparing for the Kiev crackdown. The majority of shops, kindergartens and schools have been closed in the city. Only the shops selling bread and water remain open.
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Id say Russia 'to respond if its interests' attacked 'Russia will respond if its interests in Ukraine are attacked, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said, drawing a parallel with the 2008 Georgian war' is happening now lol
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Are the Ukrainien miltay station just inside the border where the Russian forces are massing??

I mean they will not the just be able to walk in, RIGHT???
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I think they are pretty close to the border, I know a couple of weeks ago there were pictures of them reinforcing the border with tanks.
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I wonder if this is being done with tacit approval of Moscow. Would be stupid of Kiev if not. Perhaps Moscow has become embarrassed by separatists after murders etc. We'll soon see.
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Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
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I wonder if this is being done with tacit approval of Moscow. Would be stupid of Kiev if not. Perhaps Moscow has become embarrassed by separatists after murders etc. We'll soon see.
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Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
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Things are said in public for a reason, we do not know what is said in private.
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I wonder if this is being done with tacit approval of Moscow. Would be stupid of Kiev if not. Perhaps Moscow has become embarrassed by separatists after murders etc. We'll soon see.
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Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
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Things are said in public for a reason, we do not know what is said in private.
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that is what they are saying in private. I am in contact with a diplomat who tells me what is happening behind the scenes
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I wonder if this is being done with tacit approval of Moscow. Would be stupid of Kiev if not. Perhaps Moscow has become embarrassed by separatists after murders etc. We'll soon see.
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Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
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Well didn't the Americans yesterday or the day before pretty much give Kiev the green light to use force on these separatists? Russia will use that as an excuse for calling it US driven.
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the Kiev Interior ministry are saying that the overnight attack on the arms depot in Artemivsk was carried out exclusively by Russian troops
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DRUZHKOVA, UKRAINE – Tensions continue to mount in eastern Ukraine, as no obtainable solution is in sight. Reports of casualties continue to stream out of the provinces in dispute, and the residents of Ukraine don’t know what new reality they may encounter on a daily basis.
Most Ukrainians talk of a link to the West, but those in the east of the country feel a part of Russia. The Ukrainian Government has engaged in military action to maintain the entirety of its sovereign territory, a move which has brought to the escalation in violence and the rise in the death toll.

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I wonder if this is being done with tacit approval of Moscow. Would be stupid of Kiev if not. Perhaps Moscow has become embarrassed by separatists after murders etc. We'll soon see.
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Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
 Quoting: Janey


Well didn't the Americans yesterday or the day before pretty much give Kiev the green light to use force on these separatists? Russia will use that as an excuse for calling it US driven.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


they did indeed get the greenlight, with the message from Biden that America would have their back covered if Russia intervenes..
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the Kiev Interior ministry are saying that the overnight attack on the arms depot in Artemivsk was carried out exclusively by Russian troops
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Could that be the reason for the upsurge in movement this morning?
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I wonder if this is being done with tacit approval of Moscow. Would be stupid of Kiev if not. Perhaps Moscow has become embarrassed by separatists after murders etc. We'll soon see.
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Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
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Things are said in public for a reason, we do not know what is said in private.
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that is what they are saying in private. I am in contact with a diplomat who tells me what is happening behind the scenes
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Obama's just threatened Russia, at the same time threatening China that he'll protect Japan against any attack by them. This seems a deliberate provocation to start a major war. What happened to the National Debt can he kicked down the road in February? Is it about to explode? Is that why he wants a war as a diversion?
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the Kiev Interior ministry are saying that the overnight attack on the arms depot in Artemivsk was carried out exclusively by Russian troops
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Both sides used an accusatory tone right now.
Does not bode well
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the Kiev Interior ministry are saying that the overnight attack on the arms depot in Artemivsk was carried out exclusively by Russian troops
 Quoting: Janey


Could that be the reason for the upsurge in movement this morning?
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


the Ukrainians are seeing it as a Russian response to intel that they would be launching assaults today and to prepare pro-Russians with arms. Not surprising really, they have been saying it all would start on Thursday since the weekend.
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they did indeed get the greenlight, with the message from Biden that America would have their back covered if Russia intervenes..
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Of course Kiev's interpretation of "having their back covered" is likely different to Biden's (see: Georgia, 2008 - with the caveat that Bush did allegedly want to use limited force there).
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the Kiev Interior ministry are saying that the overnight attack on the arms depot in Artemivsk was carried out exclusively by Russian troops
 Quoting: Janey


Could that be the reason for the upsurge in movement this morning?
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the Ukrainians are seeing it as a Russian response to intel that they would be launching assaults today and to prepare pro-Russians with arms. Not surprising really, they have been saying it all would start on Thursday since the weekend.
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They have???

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Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
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Things are said in public for a reason, we do not know what is said in private.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56633392


that is what they are saying in private. I am in contact with a diplomat who tells me what is happening behind the scenes
 Quoting: Janey


Obama's just threatened Russia, at the same time threatening China that he'll protect Japan against any attack by them. This seems a deliberate provocation to start a major war. What happened to the National Debt can he kicked down the road in February? Is it about to explode? Is that why he wants a war as a diversion?
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Russia and China have been teaming up to ditch petrodollar
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it looks like the Kiev game plan is to use special forces to clear a route in to Slaviansk, paving the way for regular forces to follow.
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Ukrainian army drive off at high speed after #Sloviansk checkpoint attack, reports of fatalities. [link to pic.twitter.com]

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Ukraine army attack have just driven off at high speed [link to pic.twitter.com]

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Sloviansk checkpoint attacked by Ukr army [link to pic.twitter.com]
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I wonder if this is being done with tacit approval of Moscow. Would be stupid of Kiev if not. Perhaps Moscow has become embarrassed by separatists after murders etc. We'll soon see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56633392


Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
 Quoting: Janey


Well didn't the Americans yesterday or the day before pretty much give Kiev the green light to use force on these separatists? Russia will use that as an excuse for calling it US driven.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


they did indeed get the greenlight, with the message from Biden that America would have their back covered if Russia intervenes..
 Quoting: Janey


Can you prove that?
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the Kiev Interior ministry are saying that the overnight attack on the arms depot in Artemivsk was carried out exclusively by Russian troops
 Quoting: Janey


Could that be the reason for the upsurge in movement this morning?
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


the Ukrainians are seeing it as a Russian response to intel that they would be launching assaults today and to prepare pro-Russians with arms. Not surprising really, they have been saying it all would start on Thursday since the weekend.
 Quoting: Janey


They have???

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yep, I mentioned it in one of my posts yesterday. They had been merrily telling the press things would happen on Thursday. Not great for operational security!
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Just in: RAF sees off Russian ‘Bears’ as fears rise over Ukraine

The Typhoons were sent up to investigate after radar detected two large aircraft.

The Tupolev Tu-95 “Bears” were nearing UK airspace off the north-east coast but were picked up well out by the fighters.


[link to www.express.co.uk]
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#Ukraine #euromaidan Firefight right now at a second roadblock on edge of Slavyansk. Mayor may not be wounded, he is talking on phone now

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it looks like the Kiev game plan is to use special forces to clear a route in to Slaviansk, paving the way for regular forces to follow.
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That seems a logical idea.
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Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
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Well didn't the Americans yesterday or the day before pretty much give Kiev the green light to use force on these separatists? Russia will use that as an excuse for calling it US driven.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


they did indeed get the greenlight, with the message from Biden that America would have their back covered if Russia intervenes..
 Quoting: Janey


Can you prove that?
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I can in terms of senior people who are involved telling me that was the case. Although, to be honest, I dont see america intervening in any shape or form, just more sanctions.
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I wonder if this is being done with tacit approval of Moscow. Would be stupid of Kiev if not. Perhaps Moscow has become embarrassed by separatists after murders etc. We'll soon see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56633392


Moscow are furious and calling it an american plot
 Quoting: Janey


Things are said in public for a reason, we do not know what is said in private.
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Yes, I'm quite sure in private Moscow is quite happy that USA-NATO wants to implement a puppet government in Kiev that will allow them to position themselves on Russia's borders...

norespect

I find it very funny that people around think that it's any different to implement a puppet government to annexing land.

What good is it to have the land if the governments sell all the country's wealth to their commanders ?

Do you think the puppet governments the USA implements around the world act in their countries' people's interests? That's so naive...

They're there to empty countries natural resources and sign deals with the US and EU, that will move countries wealth away from the people...If you can't see this you're blind or you don't live in the EU.





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