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RTS REDUX User ID: 56858557 United States 04/24/2014 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49348257 What deal ? We've seen how the puppets in Kiev and the thugs in Washington respect the deals after Geneva. Come on, it's so obvious that in DC they just want to surround Russia and China. They are just exploiting the fact that a majority of Ukrainian citizens still don't understand EU+IMF policies well enough to properly understand what will happen to them after IMF and EU gets their hands on them. Now Putin will not allow this to happen. In fact, I would be very surprised if this junta in Kiev isn't somehow overthrown by Russia. Russia simply cannot allow the existence of this government, and there's nothing the criminal thugs in DC can do to prevent that. You know, it's all happening on Russia's border and that means all their potential war infrastructures are just there, all reinforcements and production units they need available in hours. Even if Russia had no Navy at all, a war would be very difficult to win, with all the homeland defence systems. On the other side, in a conventional war, NATO might seem to have a big war machine, but in case of a war with Russia it is unthinkable that they won't suffer casualties. What will happen when units start falling, ships being sunk and people at home starve ? You need a strong economy to bolster a war machine that is actually able to reconstruct after taking losses. NATO are all about expensive units and mobile infrastructures that need thousands of hours of work to repair or reconstruct. You think any of the NATO countries including the US have the economy to back up a war against Russia ? That's just pure madness, especially when the main foreign borrower and industrial power is Russia's ally. Remember, they don't even need to get into the war, they can just play neutral and keep trading with the Russians, hurting US economy. In addition, a war against Russia would bring the end of Petrodollar very fast, and so, in that event, US economic doom is certain. The only allied country with a suitable economy to support this war would be Germany, which will side with Putin or be neutral faster than you can even comprehend, since they understand how nasty it can be to fight the neighbouring soviets, and have their country destroyed. And there's more, I am certain that Russia is military well prepared and capable of fighting NATO, especially after watching them fight war after war, having the time to analyse war theatres. They have recently revamped most of their army's units, which are cheaper and in many cases more effective than NATO's, and more importantly, with many modifications designed to counteract NATO's weaponry. They also have superior tactical knowledge regarding the surrounding geography and superior understanding of the environment. Because of all this, and also because of the threat of nuclear warfare, USA will stay out of this war and Putin will provide for referendums in Eastern Ukraine. That will happen after the Junta is overthrown. Criminals? Well that may be. But to accuse Washington of being full of criminals, while at the same time lauding a government of mobster oligarchs, which is ran by a strongman tyrant. Is truly the height of hypocrisy, so congrats on that. Furthermore, it was Russia who broke the Geneva accord. By sending 100 special forces into eastern Ukraine as 'agents provacateur'. To create instability and to justify a military invasion. And your personal opinion of the military capabilities of NATO and Russia notwithstanding. I stand by my belief that no one wants a war. So dont be disappointed when Putin, your crusader hero. Turns out to be just another politician and makes a deal when the terms suit them. you are 1 of 3 things 1. naive 2. an idiot 3. a paid shill which is it? George Soros emphasized the necessity of a large-scale technical and financial assistance program for Ukraine. Quoting: ... "Ukraine is a potentially attractive investment destinantion. ... The new regime in Ukraine is eager to confront that task," Soros said. ... Earlier George Soros called for an EU Marshall Plan for Ukraine. He mentioned that "Europe, true to form, demanded a lot and offered little... It's very important to respond, and to respond in the right way... Something like a European Marshall plan for Ukraine." ... Some experts allege that geopolitics is not Soros' area of [sic] expertise as a finance trader. This hardly holds as international finance requires profound knmowledge and understanding of international politics and geopolitics. That is why successful international financiers are usually well versed in many areas related to international finance. The opinion of George Soros about a Marshall Plan for Ukraine is very appropriate and timely from the geopolitical and international finance points of view. ... On April 6, 2014, George Soros somewhat unexpectedly visited Ukraine and held a number of meetings. [link to www.freerepublic.com] The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine Confirmed by Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.” The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition. The word “Neo-Nazi” is a taboo. It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary. It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent. Journalists have been instructed not to use the term “Neo-Nazi” to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector. [link to www.freerepublic.com] As per usual. Anyone who doesn't buy into your right-wing propaganda is either an idiot or a shill. Second of all, Svoboda, is not a "Nazi" party, it is Ukrainian nationalist and shares economic platform principles of Fascism. But so does the Republican party here in the States. There is no hate of Jews, no policies of trans-border aggression or territorial expansion. Nothing resembling the Nazi party at all. Except for some thin stuff about venerating a Ukrainian nationalist, who fought with the Nazis against the Soviets. Because the Nazi's promised a Ukraine free from Soviet influence. I think maybe you have missed the distinction between fascism and Naziism. There is a difference. I wonder, will you hate your own government in a few years when a republican is president? Is it a short term, because a black, democrat, president is in office thing? I hope not kinda. Because thats really sad. I love my country either way I don't think you 'get it' homeskillit.. I've been saying ALL ALONG that the ENTIRE RIGHT is COMPLICIT |
katballoo User ID: 54195088 Canada 04/24/2014 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I don't think so. Who cares what he says anymore at this point. Let the dogs bark I think Moscow knows by now that Kerry is going to lie through his teeth. I don't believe one word that comes out of his mouth. They want this war...they NEED this war. They keep trying to goad Russia into action, so they can blame it on them, but some people are awake and know better. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49462378 United States 04/24/2014 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 What's the upshot? I'm getting the sense that: 1) UA had some successes in the east but has held of from further movement. 2) That Russia seems to be backing down. 3) That Kerry gave a shitty speech in which he said all options are on the table. Miss anything? |
missanthropic55 User ID: 57191761 United Kingdom 04/24/2014 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 What's the upshot? I'm getting the sense that: 1) UA had some successes in the east but has held of from further movement. 2) That Russia seems to be backing down. 3) That Kerry gave a shitty speech in which he said all options are on the table. Miss anything? Right except for kerry, blamed russia on everything..said if xmas doesnt happen this year, it's Putins fault ,,:) Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32897923 United States 04/24/2014 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 [link to abcnews.go.com] Ukraine's foreign minister has blasted the Russian decision to start military maneuvers along their border and said Thursday his country will fight any invading troops. Andriy Deshchytisa told The Associated Press in Prague that Russia's decision to launch the military exercises "very much escalates the situation in the region." Doom on? I THINK SO. It's time to bring in the tomato plants, people; this is heating up by the minute. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 55875488 United States 04/24/2014 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Unverified & Exposed: NYT-State Dept 'Russians in Ukraine' image proof collapses Quoting: RantProne [link to rt.com] Not sure if this was posted yet. NYT posted a redaction buried on the 9th page where noone would find it. Kerry was touting it as proof even after it was debunked, just like the leaflets |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49462378 United States 04/24/2014 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 What's the upshot? I'm getting the sense that: 1) UA had some successes in the east but has held of from further movement. 2) That Russia seems to be backing down. 3) That Kerry gave a shitty speech in which he said all options are on the table. Miss anything? Right except for kerry, blamed russia on everything..said if xmas doesnt happen this year, it's Putins fault ,,:) Gotcha. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54016678 United States 04/24/2014 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Extraordinary U.S. Military Activity over last 72 Hours April 24, 2014 -- (TRN) -- In the last 72 hours, there has been an extraordinary movement of U.S. military armor -- by the trainload -- from several points in the U.S. toward U.S. ports for shipment overseas . . . to Europe. Given the situation in Ukraine, this overt mobilization seems ominous. Videos and story at: [link to www.turnerradionetwork.com] |
missanthropic55 User ID: 57191761 United Kingdom 04/24/2014 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Unverified & Exposed: NYT-State Dept 'Russians in Ukraine' image proof collapses Quoting: RantProne [link to rt.com] Not sure if this was posted yet. NYT posted a redaction buried on the 9th page where noone would find it. Kerry was touting it as proof even after it was debunked, just like the leaflets Yeah .. Hilarious fuck up by Washington Last Edited by missanthropic55 on 04/24/2014 07:07 PM Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
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gomeroski User ID: 43813630 United States 04/24/2014 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Nope. That would dignify, if even a little bit, the excrement that pours out of Kerry's mouth. Has to be a rebuttal..ive bought popcorn Keep your popcorn. We should arrange a debate between Obama and Kim Jong-un. Now that would be a meeting of the minds where no one showed up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57012824 Netherlands 04/24/2014 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 You know I can dig argument of many Ukrainians here that they are not NeoNazi or reminding on movements inspired with Germany Nazism. If we look back we will find that they remind indeed much more on Italian and Spanish fascists, nationalists. And alto they were allied Mussolini and Hitler for example it is known that they did not like each other too much..While Spanish did not even participate in WW2 which is bit of an mystery.. how come? knowing how much help they have received from Germany. |
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missanthropic55 User ID: 57191761 United Kingdom 04/24/2014 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Nope. That would dignify, if even a little bit, the excrement that pours out of Kerry's mouth. Has to be a rebuttal..ive bought popcorn Keep your popcorn. We should arrange a debate between Obama and Kim Jong-un. Now that would be a meeting of the minds where no one showed up. Lmao Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
The Årtist User ID: 44124412 United States 04/24/2014 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49348257 What deal ? We've seen how the puppets in Kiev and the thugs in Washington respect the deals after Geneva. Come on, it's so obvious that in DC they just want to surround Russia and China. They are just exploiting the fact that a majority of Ukrainian citizens still don't understand EU+IMF policies well enough to properly understand what will happen to them after IMF and EU gets their hands on them. Now Putin will not allow this to happen. In fact, I would be very surprised if this junta in Kiev isn't somehow overthrown by Russia. Russia simply cannot allow the existence of this government, and there's nothing the criminal thugs in DC can do to prevent that. You know, it's all happening on Russia's border and that means all their potential war infrastructures are just there, all reinforcements and production units they need available in hours. Even if Russia had no Navy at all, a war would be very difficult to win, with all the homeland defence systems. On the other side, in a conventional war, NATO might seem to have a big war machine, but in case of a war with Russia it is unthinkable that they won't suffer casualties. What will happen when units start falling, ships being sunk and people at home starve ? You need a strong economy to bolster a war machine that is actually able to reconstruct after taking losses. NATO are all about expensive units and mobile infrastructures that need thousands of hours of work to repair or reconstruct. You think any of the NATO countries including the US have the economy to back up a war against Russia ? That's just pure madness, especially when the main foreign borrower and industrial power is Russia's ally. Remember, they don't even need to get into the war, they can just play neutral and keep trading with the Russians, hurting US economy. In addition, a war against Russia would bring the end of Petrodollar very fast, and so, in that event, US economic doom is certain. The only allied country with a suitable economy to support this war would be Germany, which will side with Putin or be neutral faster than you can even comprehend, since they understand how nasty it can be to fight the neighbouring soviets, and have their country destroyed. And there's more, I am certain that Russia is military well prepared and capable of fighting NATO, especially after watching them fight war after war, having the time to analyse war theatres. They have recently revamped most of their army's units, which are cheaper and in many cases more effective than NATO's, and more importantly, with many modifications designed to counteract NATO's weaponry. They also have superior tactical knowledge regarding the surrounding geography and superior understanding of the environment. Because of all this, and also because of the threat of nuclear warfare, USA will stay out of this war and Putin will provide for referendums in Eastern Ukraine. That will happen after the Junta is overthrown. Criminals? Well that may be. But to accuse Washington of being full of criminals, while at the same time lauding a government of mobster oligarchs, which is ran by a strongman tyrant. Is truly the height of hypocrisy, so congrats on that. Furthermore, it was Russia who broke the Geneva accord. By sending 100 special forces into eastern Ukraine as 'agents provacateur'. To create instability and to justify a military invasion. And your personal opinion of the military capabilities of NATO and Russia notwithstanding. I stand by my belief that no one wants a war. So dont be disappointed when Putin, your crusader hero. Turns out to be just another politician and makes a deal when the terms suit them. you are 1 of 3 things 1. naive 2. an idiot 3. a paid shill which is it? George Soros emphasized the necessity of a large-scale technical and financial assistance program for Ukraine. Quoting: ... "Ukraine is a potentially attractive investment destinantion. ... The new regime in Ukraine is eager to confront that task," Soros said. ... Earlier George Soros called for an EU Marshall Plan for Ukraine. He mentioned that "Europe, true to form, demanded a lot and offered little... It's very important to respond, and to respond in the right way... Something like a European Marshall plan for Ukraine." ... Some experts allege that geopolitics is not Soros' area of [sic] expertise as a finance trader. This hardly holds as international finance requires profound knmowledge and understanding of international politics and geopolitics. That is why successful international financiers are usually well versed in many areas related to international finance. The opinion of George Soros about a Marshall Plan for Ukraine is very appropriate and timely from the geopolitical and international finance points of view. ... On April 6, 2014, George Soros somewhat unexpectedly visited Ukraine and held a number of meetings. [link to www.freerepublic.com] The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine Confirmed by Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, key organizations in the Ukraine including the Neo-Nazi party Svoboda were generously supported by Washington: “We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. … We will continue to promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.” The Western media has casually avoided to analyze the composition and ideological underpinnings of the government coalition. The word “Neo-Nazi” is a taboo. It has been excluded from the dictionary of mainstream media commentary. It will not appear in the pages of the New York Times, the Washington Post or The Independent. Journalists have been instructed not to use the term “Neo-Nazi” to designate Svoboda and the Right Sector. [link to www.freerepublic.com] As per usual. Anyone who doesn't buy into your right-wing propaganda is either an idiot or a shill. Second of all, Svoboda, is not a "Nazi" party, it is Ukrainian nationalist and shares economic platform principles of Fascism. But so does the Republican party here in the States. There is no hate of Jews, no policies of trans-border aggression or territorial expansion. Nothing resembling the Nazi party at all. Except for some thin stuff about venerating a Ukrainian nationalist, who fought with the Nazis against the Soviets. Because the Nazi's promised a Ukraine free from Soviet influence. I think maybe you have missed the distinction between fascism and Naziism. There is a difference. I wonder, will you hate your own government in a few years when a republican is president? Is it a short term, because a black, democrat, president is in office thing? I hope not kinda. Because thats really sad. I love my country either way. Pretty sure Obama and the democrats bailed out banks and General Motors too, as well as gave a ton of cash to "green" companies and is currently working with businesses to create laws that benefit the businesses, like the internet fast lane. Also, the Affordable Care Act was written largely by the insurance companies and it directly benefits the insurance companies. So, before you label one party, look in the mirror, those Democrats are Fascists as well. RAGE |
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