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Ukraine has brought into service Mi-8MSB-V helicopters with nuclear bomb racks. These will be used to sneak into and bomb locations in Russia using very low level flight with advanced electronic navigation.

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"sneak into and bomb locations in Russia "

Are you saying Russia would have a 9/11 moment?? I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
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U.S. Deploys B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe
U.S. Deploys B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe

April 25, 2014 -- (TRN) -- The United States today deployed three B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe due to growing tensions with Russia involving Ukraine. "Since the Russians will not take phone calls from Defense Secretary Hagel or President Obama, we have no choice but to send a message in a language they will understand" said a Pentagon spokesman. Video of aircraft below.


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Wait, hold the phone.....

TRN is the worst source on the planet. Worse than Sorcha Faal.

I'd say wait on this one. It probably isn't true. No offense, PIR. I've been had by those bastards several times......
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@TomFlowers: Disclaimer: For entertainment purposes only (I know nothing): Many stealth bombers are now in Europe. #fact
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Ukraine brought into service a number of aged but effective Sukhoi Su-24M/R aircraft for recon missions

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U.S. Deploys B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe
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April 25, 2014 -- (TRN) -- The United States today deployed three B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe due to growing tensions with Russia involving Ukraine. "Since the Russians will not take phone calls from Defense Secretary Hagel or President Obama, we have no choice but to send a message in a language they will understand" said a Pentagon spokesman. Video of aircraft below.


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Wow. That's really not good. REALLY not good.

Russia's S.O.P. is to launch their ICBM's when the B-2's take off without prior notification, because once airborne they are undetectable. That's also why we always notify them in advance.

In other words, the Russians pretty much consider multiple B-2's taking off the exact same as an American ICBM launch, and ya can't really blame em.

Hope they changed that policy.....
 Quoting: SenterSun


I wouldn't assume that Russia wasn't notified in advance based on that snarky pentagon announcement about taking phone calls. Plenty of other ways to notify them it that is the practice.

I do get a little worried when people post about Russia's nuclear warheads deteriorating because that puts Russia in a "use it or lose it" quandary in an environment where a long term faceoff with the west appears to be brewing. I have no idea how true that is but the last thing you want is for Russia to start making those kinds of calculations.
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Yeah, it's bullshit anyway, but I do know for certain that Russia, and not only Russia, is notified every time those beautiful things fly.

As to your second, about deteriorating ICBM'S, man, its even worse than you know. When the inspectors went in after the CCCP fell, they were astonished to find that the ICBM fleet had not been kept properly. It was a total mess.

After a long inspection, it was also quite startling to learn that more than half of Soviet ICBM's wouldn't have launched if they had wanted them to.

Perhaps things have changed, but the Russians have always been brilliant in the making of things and terrible at maintaining them. I'm not sure what the hell direction those bad boys'd go if Putin hit the button.
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This hasn't got much to do with topic of this thread but since there are many
ukrainians reading this thread I decided to ask..

Could you tell me if there are some modern artists who make music based on
Ukrainian great folk music, and possibly using that "bilyj holos" (?) - singing style?

I love this singing, sounds very powerfull to me. Powerfull like blues but in a different way.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Are there some modern folk artist in Ukraine? Artist like this russian "Pelageya", for example.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I would just like to listen something different but great. I wonder if someone bothers to recommend something?
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The Mysterious Bulgarian Womens Choir is good. Not Ukrainian but still good folk tunes. Kival Sviri has always been a favorite of mine.
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This hasn't got much to do with topic of this thread but since there are many
ukrainians reading this thread I decided to ask..

Could you tell me if there are some modern artists who make music based on
Ukrainian great folk music, and possibly using that "bilyj holos" (?) - singing style?

I love this singing, sounds very powerfull to me. Powerfull like blues but in a different way.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Are there some modern folk artist in Ukraine? Artist like this russian "Pelageya", for example.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I would just like to listen something different but great. I wonder if someone bothers to recommend something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49135945


The Mysterious Bulgarian Womens Choir is good. Not Ukrainian but still good folk tunes. Kival Sviri has always been a favorite of mine.
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Thats some sweet music. Thank you Suomi hf
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Ukraine brought into service a number of aged but effective Sukhoi Su-24M/R aircraft for recon missions

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Like a flyover Crimea to check out what's up...
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This hasn't got much to do with topic of this thread but since there are many
ukrainians reading this thread I decided to ask..

Could you tell me if there are some modern artists who make music based on
Ukrainian great folk music, and possibly using that "bilyj holos" (?) - singing style?

I love this singing, sounds very powerfull to me. Powerfull like blues but in a different way.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Are there some modern folk artist in Ukraine? Artist like this russian "Pelageya", for example.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I would just like to listen something different but great. I wonder if someone bothers to recommend something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49135945


The Mysterious Bulgarian Womens Choir is good. Not Ukrainian but still good folk tunes. Kival Sviri has always been a favorite of mine.
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Thats some sweet music. Thank you Suomi hf
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Thanks,those are cool. I've been listening to a lot of Slavic and Cossack music while reading this thread.

I really like this one

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Ukraine brought into service a number of aged but effective Sukhoi Su-24M/R aircraft for recon missions

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Like a flyover Crimea to check out what's up...
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Remember this video? They imported so manny batteries in Crimea I doubt anyone would fly over it.

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Thats some sweet music. Thank you Suomi hf
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Thanks,those are cool. I've been listening to a lot of Slavic and Cossack music while reading this thread.

I really like this one


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Very melancholic and kinda sad. But thats common for most Slavic souls. hf
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Thats some sweet music. Thank you Suomi hf
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Thanks,those are cool. I've been listening to a lot of Slavic and Cossack music while reading this thread.

I really like this one


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Very melancholic and kinda sad. But thats common for most Slavic souls. hf
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It is and I don't even speak the language.
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This hasn't got much to do with topic of this thread but since there are many
ukrainians reading this thread I decided to ask..

Could you tell me if there are some modern artists who make music based on
Ukrainian great folk music, and possibly using that "bilyj holos" (?) - singing style?

I love this singing, sounds very powerfull to me. Powerfull like blues but in a different way.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Are there some modern folk artist in Ukraine? Artist like this russian "Pelageya", for example.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


I would just like to listen something different but great. I wonder if someone bothers to recommend something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49135945


The Mysterious Bulgarian Womens Choir is good. Not Ukrainian but still good folk tunes. Kival Sviri has always been a favorite of mine.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Thats some sweet music. Thank you Suomi hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57409626


Thanks,those are cool. I've been listening to a lot of Slavic and Cossack music while reading this thread.

I really like this one


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Beautiful song)

hf

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The Mysterious Bulgarian Womens Choir is good. Not Ukrainian but still good folk tunes. Kival Sviri has always been a favorite of mine.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Thats some sweet music. Thank you Suomi hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57409626


Thanks,those are cool. I've been listening to a lot of Slavic and Cossack music while reading this thread.

I really like this one


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Beautiful song)

hf

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PODNHA)
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Love it,thanks! hf
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U.S. Deploys B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe
U.S. Deploys B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe

April 25, 2014 -- (TRN) -- The United States today deployed three B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe due to growing tensions with Russia involving Ukraine. "Since the Russians will not take phone calls from Defense Secretary Hagel or President Obama, we have no choice but to send a message in a language they will understand" said a Pentagon spokesman. Video of aircraft below.


 Quoting: PIR



Wow. That's really not good. REALLY not good.

Russia's S.O.P. is to launch their ICBM's when the B-2's take off without prior notification, because once airborne they are undetectable. That's also why we always notify them in advance.

In other words, the Russians pretty much consider multiple B-2's taking off the exact same as an American ICBM launch, and ya can't really blame em.

Hope they changed that policy.....
 Quoting: SenterSun


I wouldn't assume that Russia wasn't notified in advance based on that snarky pentagon announcement about taking phone calls. Plenty of other ways to notify them it that is the practice.

I do get a little worried when people post about Russia's nuclear warheads deteriorating because that puts Russia in a "use it or lose it" quandary in an environment where a long term faceoff with the west appears to be brewing. I have no idea how true that is but the last thing you want is for Russia to start making those kinds of calculations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57118211


Yeah, it's bullshit anyway, but I do know for certain that Russia, and not only Russia, is notified every time those beautiful things fly.

As to your second, about deteriorating ICBM'S, man, its even worse than you know. When the inspectors went in after the CCCP fell, they were astonished to find that the ICBM fleet had not been kept properly. It was a total mess.

After a long inspection, it was also quite startling to learn that more than half of Soviet ICBM's wouldn't have launched if they had wanted them to.

Perhaps things have changed, but the Russians have always been brilliant in the making of things and terrible at maintaining them. I'm not sure what the hell direction those bad boys'd go if Putin hit the button.
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If only 1/3 fly, job done

but they will fly more, more are new Topol M and now Yars with solid fuels, launch anyway under any weather like any
s-300 s-400 or any solid fuel missile (not big deal a succesfull lounch with solid fuells)

only problem theoretically, it could be in some mirvs who
use liquid fuells for orbit maneuvering, but again the most
trusted space ships with liquid fuels are russian, so...

if inspectors had find not working ICBMs, it was more from
broken vehicles (who every simple engineer or electrician can fix it, changing a battery lets say :)

(Yeltsin was spending more money for vodka than fixing ICBMs, he also had sell a then new S-300 to US for some bottles of vodka)
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U.S. Deploys B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe
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April 25, 2014 -- (TRN) -- The United States today deployed three B2 Stealth Bombers to Europe due to growing tensions with Russia involving Ukraine. "Since the Russians will not take phone calls from Defense Secretary Hagel or President Obama, we have no choice but to send a message in a language they will understand" said a Pentagon spokesman. Video of aircraft below.


 Quoting: PIR



Wow. That's really not good. REALLY not good.

Russia's S.O.P. is to launch their ICBM's when the B-2's take off without prior notification, because once airborne they are undetectable. That's also why we always notify them in advance.

In other words, the Russians pretty much consider multiple B-2's taking off the exact same as an American ICBM launch, and ya can't really blame em.

Hope they changed that policy.....
 Quoting: SenterSun


I wouldn't assume that Russia wasn't notified in advance based on that snarky pentagon announcement about taking phone calls. Plenty of other ways to notify them it that is the practice.

I do get a little worried when people post about Russia's nuclear warheads deteriorating because that puts Russia in a "use it or lose it" quandary in an environment where a long term faceoff with the west appears to be brewing. I have no idea how true that is but the last thing you want is for Russia to start making those kinds of calculations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57118211


Yeah, it's bullshit anyway, but I do know for certain that Russia, and not only Russia, is notified every time those beautiful things fly.

As to your second, about deteriorating ICBM'S, man, its even worse than you know. When the inspectors went in after the CCCP fell, they were astonished to find that the ICBM fleet had not been kept properly. It was a total mess.

After a long inspection, it was also quite startling to learn that more than half of Soviet ICBM's wouldn't have launched if they had wanted them to.

Perhaps things have changed, but the Russians have always been brilliant in the making of things and terrible at maintaining them. I'm not sure what the hell direction those bad boys'd go if Putin hit the button.
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Thanks for the response. Yes, I have to own up to being Sorcha Faaled on the first point too. LOL.

As for the second, it is better that Russia not have any idea what will work than be in a situation of slowly enduring an inevitable decline in a known level of effective nukes. At least that seems more destabilizing. Your scenario suggests something more akin to Russian roulette with the gun pointed at your enemy. Who would really be tempted to do that if he can and will shoot back?
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Wow. That's really not good. REALLY not good.

Russia's S.O.P. is to launch their ICBM's when the B-2's take off without prior notification, because once airborne they are undetectable. That's also why we always notify them in advance.

In other words, the Russians pretty much consider multiple B-2's taking off the exact same as an American ICBM launch, and ya can't really blame em.

Hope they changed that policy.....
 Quoting: SenterSun


I wouldn't assume that Russia wasn't notified in advance based on that snarky pentagon announcement about taking phone calls. Plenty of other ways to notify them it that is the practice.

I do get a little worried when people post about Russia's nuclear warheads deteriorating because that puts Russia in a "use it or lose it" quandary in an environment where a long term faceoff with the west appears to be brewing. I have no idea how true that is but the last thing you want is for Russia to start making those kinds of calculations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57118211


Yeah, it's bullshit anyway, but I do know for certain that Russia, and not only Russia, is notified every time those beautiful things fly.

As to your second, about deteriorating ICBM'S, man, its even worse than you know. When the inspectors went in after the CCCP fell, they were astonished to find that the ICBM fleet had not been kept properly. It was a total mess.

After a long inspection, it was also quite startling to learn that more than half of Soviet ICBM's wouldn't have launched if they had wanted them to.

Perhaps things have changed, but the Russians have always been brilliant in the making of things and terrible at maintaining them. I'm not sure what the hell direction those bad boys'd go if Putin hit the button.
 Quoting: SenterSun


For something so undetectable You sure can see them coming!
 Quoting: RedEyeJedi


Really? ~rolls eyes~

That's stock footage daytime footage, non military stuff. The black jets only fly at night when a good buggerring is in order.

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Wow. That's really not good. REALLY not good.

Russia's S.O.P. is to launch their ICBM's when the B-2's take off without prior notification, because once airborne they are undetectable. That's also why we always notify them in advance.

In other words, the Russians pretty much consider multiple B-2's taking off the exact same as an American ICBM launch, and ya can't really blame em.

Hope they changed that policy.....
 Quoting: SenterSun


I wouldn't assume that Russia wasn't notified in advance based on that snarky pentagon announcement about taking phone calls. Plenty of other ways to notify them it that is the practice.

I do get a little worried when people post about Russia's nuclear warheads deteriorating because that puts Russia in a "use it or lose it" quandary in an environment where a long term faceoff with the west appears to be brewing. I have no idea how true that is but the last thing you want is for Russia to start making those kinds of calculations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57118211


Yeah, it's bullshit anyway, but I do know for certain that Russia, and not only Russia, is notified every time those beautiful things fly.

As to your second, about deteriorating ICBM'S, man, its even worse than you know. When the inspectors went in after the CCCP fell, they were astonished to find that the ICBM fleet had not been kept properly. It was a total mess.

After a long inspection, it was also quite startling to learn that more than half of Soviet ICBM's wouldn't have launched if they had wanted them to.

Perhaps things have changed, but the Russians have always been brilliant in the making of things and terrible at maintaining them. I'm not sure what the hell direction those bad boys'd go if Putin hit the button.
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Thanks for the response. Yes, I have to own up to being Sorcha Faaled on the first point too. LOL.

As for the second, it is better that Russia not have any idea what will work than be in a situation of slowly enduring an inevitable decline in a known level of effective nukes. At least that seems more destabilizing. Your scenario suggests something more akin to Russian roulette with the gun pointed at your enemy. Who would really be tempted to do that if he can and will shoot back?
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applause2 That's a great way to put it! It's appears it's also exactly what they would have had to do back then.

I don't think anyone but the CIA or some such knows their current status. They've developed much better rockets, so maybe they are being kept serviced properly. They are delicate bastards, and require a strict maintenance schedule.

You'd have to think Putin makes sure they don't cut corners so much anymore.
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READ THIS IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED WITH THE U.S.S. DONALD COOK. SORRY, IT'S A LOT OF INFO.
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Thats a good read....has the ring of truth to it.
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I don't trust my "ring of truth" detector that well but I do have a BS detector and contrasted with the other story that post holds up pretty well as message board posts go. It is amazing what people will believe simply because they want to believe it.
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Plausible.
But they forgot to concoct an explanation for the Captain Cook leaving the Black Sea ahead of schedule.
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@fulelo: #BBC 4 British fighter jets will fly to #Lithuania today 2 join #Poland aircraft policing the skies over the Baltic states #Ukraine #Russia
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Janey can we get some news on Romanian troops movement?

Also my buddy in the Canadian army has been told to be on stand by for deployment in Ukraine... so what's up with that?

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