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UKRAINE: Russia Def Ministry: Thermonuclear intercontinental ballistic missile RT-24 Yars battery is on its way to a 'field site'!!!p4998

 
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Standoff outside military college. #Donestk #Ukraine @vicenews pic.twitter.com/LbtyJWCYXh

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Military college on edge of #Donetsk surrounded by pro Russia rebels. @VICEUK pic.twitter.com/fwoXNw8tnE
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Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

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Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
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The tanks and vehicles have orange and black ribbons on their sides, presumably the same ones used in the Donbass.
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Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.

NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
 Quoting: Unit 88



Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.

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RAPSI ‏@RAPSI_en 55 min
Ukrainian Parliament votes against decentralization referendum

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[link to www.bank.gov.ua]

less than 50 percent


Stepan Kubiv: The receipt of a loan from the IMF will enable the National Bank to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves and help strengthen the stability of the national currency

05.05.2014

He noted that over USD 1 billion that would come from the first tranche would be used to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the National Bank of Ukraine, which would enable Ukraine to strengthen its financial system.



So, are they borrowing money to replace the gold they let go on a plane to somewhere.
 Quoting: steelseries


You couldn,t make this shit up..^^^

This whole thing is about bringing the Ukraine under dollar/Imf control...in order to stop Ukraine going along with the new BRICS bank being set up.

Debt is control.
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[link to abcnews.go.com]

This not because NATO wants to get involved. They just want to assure us that help will come if Russia tries anything here.

It has been a constant bombardment in our media... Different people saying over and over again that the alliance is strong.
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Re: UKRAINE: Russia Def Ministry: Thermonuclear intercontinental ballistic missile RT-24 Yars battery is on its way to a 'field site'!!!p4998
Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082802


Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
 Quoting: Matjaz


The tanks and vehicles have orange and black ribbons on their sides, presumably the same ones used in the Donbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082802


There's a certain feel to the whole thing, like it's being turned into a new age swastika.
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Re: UKRAINE: Russia Def Ministry: Thermonuclear intercontinental ballistic missile RT-24 Yars battery is on its way to a 'field site'!!!p4998
Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

bump
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Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
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they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
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Why would this be out of ordinary? The parade is celebrating victory in WW2.
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[link to abcnews.go.com]

This not because NATO wants to get involved. They just want to assure us that help will come if Russia tries anything here.

It has been a constant bombardment in our media... Different people saying over and over again that the alliance is strong.
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If you have to keep assuring and saying 'we are strong' then the opposite is true.
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Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
 Quoting: Unit 88



Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Needless to say probably worst crisis since Cuba missile crisis. Anyone see a happy ending? Obama doesn't like Putin and Putin doesn'trust the US.
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SBU head says Russian soldiers participating in fighting in eastern Ukraine. They're coming in from Crimea
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The soldiers now coming into Eastern Ukraine from Crimea are Ukrianian soldiers. Members of the Ukranian military in revolt against Kiev.
They are not Russian for goodness sake, they are Ukranians who were stationed in Crimea, now moving back to Ukraine but via Russia because the crossing to Kherson is now closed to them.
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As I remember only small percentage of soldiers stayed in Crimea. The rest left the peninsula. I'm sure those who stayed are Ukranians but give them 15 years and they'll be saying they are Russian. Insane in Ukraine..
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Germany advises all German nationals to leave Eastern and Southern Ukraine
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Re: UKRAINE: Russia Def Ministry: Thermonuclear intercontinental ballistic missile RT-24 Yars battery is on its way to a 'field site'!!!p4998
Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082802


Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
 Quoting: Matjaz


they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
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All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
 Quoting: Unit 88



Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Needless to say probably worst crisis since Cuba missile crisis. Anyone see a happy ending? Obama doesn't like Putin and Putin doesn'trust the US.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


I think Ukraine will descend into a full scale proxy civil war, with the country eventually being split in two.
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Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.
NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792

Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55

All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
 Quoting: Unit 88
Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55

They would never get NATO agreement.

But that would not stop, for example, Poland acting alone knowing that NATO has their back. And that means, for example, that if Russia encircled and seized Kiev, as many think likely, Poland might take the opportunity to seize Lviv, largely unopposed, and Russia would do nothing about it for fear of NATO.

And any post-war new Russian-friendly government in Kiev would have lost West Ukriane to annexation by Poland.
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Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Needless to say probably worst crisis since Cuba missile crisis. Anyone see a happy ending? Obama doesn't like Putin and Putin doesn'trust the US.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


I think Ukraine will descend into a full scale proxy civil war, with the country eventually being split in two.
 Quoting: firinne


Proxy war is right..this scenario couldn't have been predicted 20 years ago.
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And The First Thing Ukraine Will Buy With IMF Money Is...

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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zerohedge ‏@zerohedge 3 min

PUTIN HAS CROSSED THE LINE, U.K.'S DAVEY SAYS. which line?
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This is a test.
The meek shall inherit the Earth.
Jesus of Nazareth
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Crimea was the first step for Russia to reclaim ALL former USSR territory. Ukraine was or is to be the second step. If Ukraine is taken I would guess Bulgaria could be next as it has a very small population and already many Russians buying up cheap properties there. Ukraine did not join NATO because it felt no need. Big mistake.
Some people on here need to do a bit of history reading or catch up on facts.
The ex Prime minister, Yulia, may have been corrupt but not half as corrupt as the Yanukovych gang.They brought the country to bankruptcy and depleted the army. Not surprising when the main general was a Russian. The government has tried to control the terrorists with the least amount of aggression but it has not worked. Even the police are not doing what they should to control the bandits. All this could be solved peacfully but not while a few men want to seize Ukraine territory and hand it over to Russia. It should be remembered that many Ukrainians were trapped in Russia when the borders were drawn up.
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[link to www.bank.gov.ua]

less than 50 percent


Stepan Kubiv: The receipt of a loan from the IMF will enable the National Bank to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves and help strengthen the stability of the national currency

05.05.2014

He noted that over USD 1 billion that would come from the first tranche would be used to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the National Bank of Ukraine, which would enable Ukraine to strengthen its financial system.



So, are they borrowing money to replace the gold they let go on a plane to somewhere.
 Quoting: steelseries


You couldn,t make this shit up..^^^

This whole thing is about bringing the Ukraine under dollar/Imf control...in order to stop Ukraine going along with the new BRICS bank being set up.

Debt is control.
 Quoting: firinne


in order to stop Ukraine going along with the new BRICS bank being set up.

I never even thought of that. I knew about the BRICS plans but never thought about that aspect of it. hf

Last Edited by steelseries on 05/06/2014 09:37 AM
What in the wide world of sports is going on?
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Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Needless to say probably worst crisis since Cuba missile crisis. Anyone see a happy ending? Obama doesn't like Putin and Putin doesn'trust the US.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


I think Ukraine will descend into a full scale proxy civil war, with the country eventually being split in two.
 Quoting: firinne


Proxy war is right..this scenario couldn't have been predicted 20 years ago.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


This is all about destabalizing Russia, both economically and militarily.
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2 steps from all out war

Russian invasion
NATO involvement
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Why would NATO get involved? Ukraine is not in NATO.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.

NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO.
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Crimea was the first step for Russia to reclaim ALL former USSR territory. Ukraine was or is to be the second step. If Ukraine is taken I would guess Bulgaria could be next as it has a very small population and already many Russians buying up cheap properties there. Ukraine did not join NATO because it felt no need. Big mistake.
Some people on here need to do a bit of history reading or catch up on facts.
The ex Prime minister, Yulia, may have been corrupt but not half as corrupt as the Yanukovych gang.They brought the country to bankruptcy and depleted the army. Not surprising when the main general was a Russian. The government has tried to control the terrorists with the least amount of aggression but it has not worked. Even the police are not doing what they should to control the bandits. All this could be solved peacfully but not while a few men want to seize Ukraine territory and hand it over to Russia. It should be remembered that many Ukrainians were trapped in Russia when the borders were drawn up.
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If you think Putin and the Russian government is so damn stupid, you got a problem... sir.
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Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
 Quoting: Matjaz


they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
 Quoting: Anti-Banderist

iamwith
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Happy St George's Day

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Thanks! Happy St George's Day to you too!
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And The First Thing Ukraine Will Buy With IMF Money Is...
[link to www.zerohedge.com]

I hope it will be delivered fast and i hope they will store it in Kiev. So it will be ready for Putin to take it home when he conquers Kiev in a few weeks chuckle
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Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
 Quoting: Matjaz


they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
 Quoting: Anti-Banderist

iamwith
Because st. George is a guardian of the army and today is st. George day.
[link to dividingmytime.typepad.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57758874

Happy St George's Day

 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


That or they're showing support for the Donbass fighters, I believe they wear the same type of ribbon on their sleeves. I've never seen these isignia on Russian vehicles before.
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Sorry about messed up reply...wasn't me! Lol

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