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I'm here again... for the rest of the day.
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Finally!
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[link to www.bank.gov.ua]

less than 50 percent

Stepan Kubiv: The receipt of a loan from the IMF will enable the National Bank to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves and help strengthen the stability of the national currency

05.05.2014

He noted that over USD 1 billion that would come from the first tranche would be used to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the National Bank of Ukraine, which would enable Ukraine to strengthen its financial system.

So, are they borrowing money to replace the gold they let go on a plane to somewhere.
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US needs to prevent the fall of the gold price, so they are giving to Uraine the money with which they are going to buy gold from US! Looks to me that US found a way to produce cheap gold as its price never rose as was relentlessly preached since five years ago, despite the massive quantities being sold in Asia and elsewhere!
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Waiting for orders to move in.


 Quoting: Falter


This is the worst civil war in the modern history!

Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable.

Well, to every normal person in this world.
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Stand off outside Ukrainian military barracks in #Donetsk Pro-Russian forces have base surrounded

Pro Russia militiamen with RPG on truck blocking the access road to the base. Echoes of Crimea.

Two pics here:
[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1108496


Spontaneously generated RPG operated by a civillian, because know how to use RPG, we all learn that in school.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


As a matter of fact they DO learn such skills in school...

Here is a young boy in school...


And here is a class of boys and girls...

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Notzuckerberg is continuing to troll under multiple IP's proxies

same words, same trolling, trolling the same issue over and over, over many pages, refusing to admit its on the Russian government's own website

all trolling that same exact thing but under multiple different IPs.

The only conclusion is that Notzuckerberg is using multiple proxies here to troll up the thread.
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Just catching up after being out for a bit.
Six more pages to go.
I hope ac 080 is banned by the time I catch up
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I don't agree with most of what he posts and he calls people shills but I don't want him banned. He does contribute an essential viewpoint to this thread. He says he is young and I can believe it but it is the emotions of the young that are out of control from both sides that are a key part of the mix right now. Their ancestors fought the last world war with no holds barred. Besides, if I lived in Kiev I would fear Russia too.
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He is vexatious, provocative and is enticing a lot of the arguments.
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Meanwhile in Ukraine.....
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Waiting for orders to move in.


 Quoting: Falter


This is the worst civil war in the modern history!

Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable.

Well, to every normal person in this world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57756157


Hold on, this is just starting and it will spread into neighbouring countries as well. So that when life will be a complete nightmare in a total chaos, Russian army will step in as "liberators" and "peacekeepers"!
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WTF... After 6 beers I look at just this video without clicking on it and it scares the shit out of me lmfao
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Waiting for orders to move in.


 Quoting: Falter


Even more.


 Quoting: Falter


Sitting ducks for a concentrated Russian airstrike...me thinks.
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I'm here again... for the rest of the day.
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Awesome.. F#%@^in Dos attack is slowing this shit down but we refuse to leave. Keep this thread going no matter what... Great job to everyone sticking it out.
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Haven't caught up yet today, but I'm really surprised there are still flights between Kiev and Moscow.
[link to www.flightradar24.com]
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Waiting for orders to move in.


 Quoting: Falter


Even more.


 Quoting: Falter


Sitting ducks for a concentrated Russian airstrike...me thinks.
 Quoting: firinne


Considering this video is hours old and they are probs already deployed in theater, nahhh
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German and Russian foreign ministers are meeting in Vienna to discuss Ukraine crisis - Interfax
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Unidentified helicopter flies over Soledar, Donetsk Oblast #Ukraine - May 6 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …
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Dmitriy Miryan ‏@DimaMiryan 31 sec

#Russia won't take part in Geneva 2.0 negotiations without separatist-representatives of E #Ukraine

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Makes perfect sense.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Sounds fair, but who represents who? Russia playing games again.
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What's the game in wanting all sides involved?
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#BreakingNews #Luhansk police spokesperson says "city out of control" due to separatis actions. Criminals, rebels spreading everywhere.
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Just catching up after being out for a bit.
Six more pages to go.
I hope ac 080 is banned by the time I catch up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41196294


I don't agree with most of what he posts and he calls people shills but I don't want him banned. He does contribute an essential viewpoint to this thread. He says he is young and I can believe it but it is the emotions of the young that are out of control from both sides that are a key part of the mix right now. Their ancestors fought the last world war with no holds barred. Besides, if I lived in Kiev I would fear Russia too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


He is vexatious, provocative and is enticing a lot of the arguments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41196294


I know. He called me a shill over what he claims some website says in Russian. I couldn't find it in the link and we would disagree on its meaning anyway. It is a price I am willing to pay. Scroll past his posts and the replies. It isn't that hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


Yeah It don't actually bother me but why allow him to achieve his goal of derailing the thread. Anyway, banning some of those is futile as they will be back and I'm sure a few are working together if not the same person.

I would hazard a guess and say you are the same poster and I am playing into your game by populating the thread with more nonsense.

Ban me too!!!
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Sitting ducks for a concentrated Russian airstrike...me thinks.


Considering this video is hours old and they are probs already deployed in theater, nahhh


I dont think Russia will go in now, this has long protracted proxy civil war written all over it.
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Haven't caught up yet today, but I'm really surprised there are still flights between Kiev and Moscow.
[link to www.flightradar24.com]
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Refugees liner?
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Dmitriy Miryan ‏@DimaMiryan 31 sec

#Russia won't take part in Geneva 2.0 negotiations without separatist-representatives of E #Ukraine

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Makes perfect sense.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Sounds fair, but who represents who? Russia playing games again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56633392


What's the game in wanting all sides involved?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Payback for Syria. They are just doing the same as USA/West in Syria.
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Waiting for orders to move in.


 Quoting: Falter


This is the worst civil war in the modern history!

Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable.

Well, to every normal person in this world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57756157


Hold on, this is just starting and it will spread into neighbouring countries as well. So that when life will be a complete nightmare in a total chaos, Russian army will step in as "liberators" and "peacekeepers"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36892795


100% correct.

In the book "One Second After" which is about an EMP attack on the USA that is exactly what happens.

1. The United States becomes involved in a massive war in multiple areas on earth and deployed all of our National Guard and regular troops all over the world to fight.

2. After all of our troops are overseas we are hit with multiple EMP devices that take down all the power grid nationwide instantly destroying the economy and throwing the [population into chaos.

3.Because of the attack the US dollar becomes near worthless worldwide and all of our troops are trapped overseas with no way to get home and no supplies.

4. After months of chaos and death in the US russian troops show up in the east half of the US as the west is taken by China...both China and Russia claim the action is one of humanitarian need to stop the violence and to help the people.

Heads up residents of the US...there was a reason every senator and congressman and their aids were all given a copy of the book "One Second After"

This is a set up people...on a grand scale.

Here is the book: [link to www.onesecondafter.com]
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Dmitriy Miryan ‏@DimaMiryan 31 sec

#Russia won't take part in Geneva 2.0 negotiations without separatist-representatives of E #Ukraine

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57763564


Makes perfect sense.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Sounds fair, but who represents who? Russia playing games again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56633392


What's the game in wanting all sides involved?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Russia will just be demonized and punished if the eastern rebels don't abide by the outcome. It only makes sense if the idea is to get them to stand down at all as a result of any agreement. Even a truce requires both parties at war to agree. Any other format will just be another trap for Russia.
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Just catching up after being out for a bit.
Six more pages to go.
I hope ac 080 is banned by the time I catch up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41196294


I don't agree with most of what he posts and he calls people shills but I don't want him banned. He does contribute an essential viewpoint to this thread. He says he is young and I can believe it but it is the emotions of the young that are out of control from both sides that are a key part of the mix right now. Their ancestors fought the last world war with no holds barred. Besides, if I lived in Kiev I would fear Russia too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


He is vexatious, provocative and is enticing a lot of the arguments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41196294


I know. He called me a shill over what he claims some website says in Russian. I couldn't find it in the link and we would disagree on its meaning anyway. It is a price I am willing to pay. Scroll past his posts and the replies. It isn't that hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


If his trolling is acceptable, than all trolling should be allowed.

I think, no exceptions should be allowed, it is the only way to keep this thread relevant and readable.

A troll is a troll is a troll.
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"Unknown take control of the city in Soledar Donetsk region. According to preliminary information, the city has been taken by militia."
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Is there much fighting in the east? Not much news coming in.
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I don't agree with most of what he posts and he calls people shills but I don't want him banned. He does contribute an essential viewpoint to this thread. He says he is young and I can believe it but it is the emotions of the young that are out of control from both sides that are a key part of the mix right now. Their ancestors fought the last world war with no holds barred. Besides, if I lived in Kiev I would fear Russia too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


He is vexatious, provocative and is enticing a lot of the arguments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41196294


I know. He called me a shill over what he claims some website says in Russian. I couldn't find it in the link and we would disagree on its meaning anyway. It is a price I am willing to pay. Scroll past his posts and the replies. It isn't that hard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


If his trolling is acceptable, than all trolling should be allowed.

I think, no exceptions should be allowed, it is the only way to keep this thread relevant and readable.

A troll is a troll is a troll.
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Jesus h Christ get over it..if u don't like a particular member then ignore them.,,this thread is being derailed with this shit.
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#Ukraine presidential candidate Natalia Korolevskaya dissapered enroute to #Slavyansk Fears terrorists kidnapped her.
"The Oceans Will Rise; Nuclear Winter Will Be Upon Us; And The World As We Know It Will End"

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-Ernest Hemingway
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Makes perfect sense.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Sounds fair, but who represents who? Russia playing games again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56633392


What's the game in wanting all sides involved?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Russia will just be demonized and punished if the eastern rebels don't abide by the outcome. It only makes sense if the idea is to get them to stand down at all as a result of any agreement. Even a truce requires both parties at war to agree. Any other format will just be another trap for Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


For the east to stand down their grievances need addressed, and that means a change in Kiev representatives. No easy answers to this one. They're headed straight for catastrophe.
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Waiting for orders to move in.


 Quoting: Falter


This is the worst civil war in the modern history!

Absolutely disgusting and unacceptable.

Well, to every normal person in this world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57756157


Hold on, this is just starting and it will spread into neighbouring countries as well. So that when life will be a complete nightmare in a total chaos, Russian army will step in as "liberators" and "peacekeepers"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36892795


100% correct.

In the book "One Second After" which is about an EMP attack on the USA that is exactly what happens.

1. The United States becomes involved in a massive war in multiple areas on earth and deployed all of our National Guard and regular troops all over the world to fight.

2. After all of our troops are overseas we are hit with multiple EMP devices that take down all the power grid nationwide instantly destroying the economy and throwing the [population into chaos.

3.Because of the attack the US dollar becomes near worthless worldwide and all of our troops are trapped overseas with no way to get home and no supplies.

4. After months of chaos and death in the US russian troops show up in the east half of the US as the west is taken by China...both China and Russia claim the action is one of humanitarian need to stop the violence and to help the people.

Heads up residents of the US...there was a reason every senator and congressman and their aids were all given a copy of the book "One Second After"

This is a set up people...on a grand scale.

Here is the book: [link to www.onesecondafter.com]
 Quoting: PIR

cruise


Sorry, couldn't resist