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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: URGENT: Ukraine's accession to alliance will bring Russia-NATO relations to complete collapse - Russian Defense!!!p.6798

 
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Russia will invade Ukraine within 72 hours. Uncle Intel
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Been hearing that for the past 2 months. Not saying it's never going to happen, but I'm now going to be sceptical right up to I see Russian jets over Ukraine and Russian tanks crossing their border.
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USSR loses 50% of its oil refineries in mega bombings by Muslim terrorists from Soviet republic. In the aftermath, the ruling Politburo of elderly men finds "way out" of the oil crisis: USSR must invade the Middle East oil fields.
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okay I gotta parse this "Tom Clancy" timeline and break it here, that's a massive assumption which others can critique for me. What book is this timeline from?? I don't read his books much anymore I don't have the time but I play the only tactical sim he authopirzed, and that's endwar.

Since they are controlled mostly by USA, before that it has to defeat USA. As a first step, the goal is set to break up NATO alliance and to cut off Europe from USA. USSR attacks Germany by land, and invades Iceland and Norway as bases for bombers and ships, to stop the cross-Atlantic supply route. Greece declares neutrality to "Russian-German war".
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Big no to the Chinese being not active in rear regions of Russia, they know there is big land for their people in Western for them, Russia.

Greece COULD play the role of Turkey which was nuetral during WW2 disallowing Hitler to go to the Caucses through Turkey. I think this was the Donmeh sect manipulating Hitler/Shicklegruber to go into the kill zone for Germany soldiers who were to be part of the "holocaust" because to say the Germans soldiers and dead Jews are not BOTH the holocausted dead, is to lie. As to Russian dead, also very brave, but used by Stalin in very cruel game of 20th Century wars. ...Any way if Greece wet "neutral" Italy (perhaps puppeted on several levels) would take the Greece west coast that's a given. Then you have to ask what is Bulgaria and Romania reaction? It's like mirrors reflecting so to game it past the first moments is not really true insight.

NATO is presented mainly by US, UK, France and Germany. Prolonged sea-air war in Atlantic and ground war on West German territory are inconclusive after weeks of mutual exhausting non-nuclear war. At that time, Politburo decides to kill all top generals who couldn't take Paris in 2-3 weeks, and to give tactical nukes to the next general in command to make the conventionally impossible breakthrough in NATO front. The young general sees that as "opening the door to hell", and with the help of KGB makes successful coup in Kremlin. Then he signs armistice with the American NATO commander.

You say how far from reality Mr Clancy was and is now, even after his death. Almost at 180 degrees.
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Well, it's not going the way he said, because of whomever Putin called "the nobody" who he said was #1 in power. Hmmm, what did he mean by the word nobody? A void? A person?
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Ukraine Reporter&#8207;@StateOfUkraine·2 mins
Shooting near Ukrainian military base in #Mariupol #Ukraine. Lots of smoke from burning tires. Getting more details.
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BREAKING Smth is hannens in #Mariupol right now. Sirens are heard, tires burning, all center in smoke,police block the road @Sergey_Osadchiy
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Local activists confirming shootings in #Mariupol #Ukraine “intensive shooting heard, there are dead” Source is @RT_com
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Easiest solution ever:

**** S T O P D O I N G B U S I N E S S W I T H R U S S I A / S T O P B U Y I N G R U S S I A N G O O D S ****
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fucking idiot...
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STFU Socialist!
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My scources tell me pressure on Putin is rising with the hour to intervene in Ukraine.
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Ukraine Reporter&#8207;@StateOfUkraine·2 mins
It looks like Ukrainian forces are planning to storm the separatist-held #Mariupol #Ukraine city hall which they are encircling.
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On the other hand I have begun handing out GREEN karma quite liberally to those who post INFORMATIONAL updates to this thread.

I do not care if the poster has a tendency to post slanted information, still I hand out green karma for information.

In a conflict like this, ALL updates and information must be considered slanted one way or another. A few news resources, and a few posters in this thread, do seem to make a sincere attempt not to show bias... but almost everything is necessarily biased just because the information itself is gatherec by -- and occurring among -- people who are inclined towards one side or another. It's a freaking civil war for crying out loud.

Nonetheless, I would like to encourage other long time GLPers to likewise reward informational posts and reliable contributors!

*IF* you feel that you have contributed heavily to this unfolding NEWS thread, and have not recieved green karma from me, please keep contributing and I will get to you whenever I can reload and spread more green.
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My scources tell me pressure on Putin is rising with the hour to intervene in Ukraine.
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Do tell. Who applies the pressure?
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Fascists like you are just as bad as the communists ever were. Psycopathic killers who have nothing positive to offer the planet.
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Don't insult me. I am Nazi, not fascist
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What's the difference?

Can you define both?
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Yes. Nazis and Fascists are dudes that notZuckenberg doesn't like. Nazis are better looking though.
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Their differences are far less significant then their similarities. They both love to kill the innocent, those they consider "inferior" - who can be just about anybody and whose inferiority exists only in the fascist/nazi's imagination. They also love to lie, they lack conscience and are generally sociopathic. When not killing and destroying they both love to march around in silly looking uniforms, oftentimes carrying torches. They also both need to have a strong male authority figure that they can worship and who shares their pathologies and who generally meets an unhappy end.
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Euromaidan PR&#8207;@EuromaidanPR·21 secs
Unconfirmed report: 300 unknown armed with bats arrived to #Vinnytsa today (central #Ukraine) | EMPR News
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REPORT: In Mariupol-gunfight at the airport-LB.ua [link to lb.ua] … …
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Russia will invade Ukraine within 72 hours. Uncle Intel
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Who's your Uncle? Uncle Sam?

gwdance
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It's was just sarcasm. But I do have a hunch. My hunches are often right it seems. Often but not always of course don't know how or why but I have had them all my life about people, places, things etc and more often then not... Let me backtrack a bit and say by the end of Sunday Eastern Standard Time (or just eastern I forget which it is now) and I will leave it at that.
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I know, I do believe. This was just to make things fun.. I believe Russia will invade when all scenario is quiet, just like today earlier
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Pictures coming out of #Mariupol right now #Ukraine [link to pic.twitter.com (secure)]
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Maripul live cam>?
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I'm looking fora thread now, this thread has so many freaking de-railers!

[link to ukrstream.tv]

You might help me out checking these streams, there are a lot of them.
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Russia will invade Ukraine within 72 hours. Uncle Intel
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Who's your Uncle? Uncle Sam?

gwdance
 Quoting: raphaelcozzi 57767016


It's was just sarcasm. But I do have a hunch. My hunches are often right it seems. Often but not always of course don't know how or why but I have had them all my life about people, places, things etc and more often then not... Let me backtrack a bit and say by the end of Sunday Eastern Standard Time (or just eastern I forget which it is now) and I will leave it at that.
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I believe you that you have hunches like that. Mainly because it has happened to me too multiple times. Even if your hunch turns out to be wrong.
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Don't insult me. I am Nazi, not fascist
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What's the difference?

Can you define both?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57767797


Yes. Nazis and Fascists are dudes that notZuckenberg doesn't like. Nazis are better looking though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8276322


Their differences are far less significant then their similarities. They both love to kill the innocent, those they consider "inferior" - who can be just about anybody and whose inferiority exists only in the fascist/nazi's imagination. They also love to lie, they lack conscience and are generally sociopathic. When not killing and destroying they both love to march around in silly looking uniforms, oftentimes carrying torches. They also both need to have a strong male authority figure that they can worship and who shares their pathologies and who generally meets an unhappy end.
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You must be pro-gay antifascist. Good on ya!
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Secret uranium enrichment facility in Qazvin/Iran blown to bits!

God bless.....
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Easiest solution ever:

**** S T O P D O I N G B U S I N E S S W I T H R U S S I A / S T O P B U Y I N G R U S S I A N G O O D S ****
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fucking idiot...
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Idiot is understatement considering that he is German and the so called Russian goods and market are vital for the German economy.
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he is a turkish german, they hate russia cuz history gnome sayin
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cruise

Russia can shove it up it's ...
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Maripul live cam>?
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I'm looking fora thread now, this thread has so many freaking de-railers!

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Yeah, I wish people would take the pro- anti- debate elsewhere and keep this thread for the discussion of news.
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Secret uranium enrichment facility in Qazvin/Iran blown to bits!

God bless.....
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RT @RT_com · 20 seg
#IRAN: Heavy explosion at warehouse in #Qazvin, reportedly 50 killed or injured [link to on.rt.com]



RT @RT_com · 42 seg
BREAKING: Dozens of casualties feared as massive explosion strikes north #Iran [link to on.rt.com]

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Ok, no gas! Any objections?
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lolsign
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Russia has so much gas they dont know what to do with it and they still buy gas at a cheap rate from other countries. They have little else to offer. There is always solar energy and that may be what worries them.
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They (RUSSIA) are just finalising a deal to sell gas to 1 billion Chinese, which will NOT be traded in dollars. Who needs Europe ???

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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Russia has so much gas, but it cannot provide with gas own people: level of gasification is about 65% only ! of which cities for 70% and villages for 53%. Kremlin takes more care of citizens than of own pockets ! :)

As for oil and gas supplies to China, till now all they are subsidized from Russia's budget. Therefore, more export - more losses.
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Maripul live cam>?
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I'm looking fora thread now, this thread has so many freaking de-railers!

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Yeah, I wish people would take the pro- anti- debate elsewhere and keep this thread for the discussion of news.
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&#1052;&#1040;&#1056;&#1048;&#1059;&#1055;&#1054;&#1051;&#106​8; seems to be how it is spelled in Russian
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Kiev Committing Genocide of Russian, Ukrainian People – Russian Official

BELGRADE, May 6 (RIA Novosti) – The latest episodes of violence in Ukraine constitute a genocide against the Russian and Ukrainian people, Russian State Duma Speaker Sergei Naryshkin said during a Balkan forum Tuesday.
“We are dealing with the real genocide of both Russian and Ukrainian people,” said Naryshkin, commenting on the tragic events in Odessa on May 2, when 46 federalization activists were killed in clashes.
He added that Russia was shocked by the massacre in Odessa and mourns the victims together with their families.
“In the 21st century such things happen not only due to the fault of a bunch of political adventurists – they are not worth much on their own, they will get what they deserve from their people. The main problem is that the horrific truth is being kept from the whole world,” Naryshkin said.
According to the speaker, Kiev’s authorities initially based their policy on civil confrontation. They have now demonstrated their unwillingness to find and punish those responsible for the numerous crimes that have been committed in Ukraine in recent months, he added.

[link to en.ria.ru]
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Maripul live cam>?
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I'm looking fora thread now, this thread has so many freaking de-railers!

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Yeah, I wish people would take the pro- anti- debate elsewhere and keep this thread for the discussion of news.
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&#1052;&#1040;&#1056;&#1048;&#1059;&#1055;&#1054;&#1051;&#106​8; seems to be how it is spelled in Russian
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lol or check here > [link to translate.google.com (secure)]
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Unconfirmed report:Aircrafts are landing in #Mariupol Airport, shooting is heard @Sergey_Osadchiy |EMPR News #Ukraine
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I'm talking to a local on ustream chat now and he said only twitter feeds are active currently

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