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former USSR members, especially Baltics, Ukraine and Poland have been brainwashed by the bolsheviks to hate russians. They are basically manchurian candidates. The bolshevik revolution was a western backed uprising, a ploy to destroy Russia.
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


What sense does that make? The Bolsheviks brainwashed most Russians to love the SU, but they weren't able to brainwash the rest of Eastern Europe. The Bolsheviks didnt try to brainwash anybody to hating Russians but to love the SU, and they only succeeded brainwashing a large portion of imperialist mindset Russians.

The Bolsheviks = SU = The predecessor of modern Russia. So how could they have brainwashed anybody to hating themselves?

The problem is that Russians themselves were brainwashed, which indeed undermines true Russian patriotism until this day. If Russians weren't brainwashed by the Bolsheviks and the SU did not come to existence, things would be very different today.
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Where is that Zhirinovsky video again?.. baffle
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If the Bolsheviks didn't overthrow the Tsar, The standard of living today could be on the level of western Europe, Russia could have around 250 million people instead of 150 million, and it could have been the leading country in the world. Such wasted potential.
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woo
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is this a bad sign? Is there any president ?
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@Kyivpost&CNN: NATO ready to take additional measures to deter Russia

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welcome...
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I think there was written on the passport the Soviet State of which it was made in, perhaps the citizenship was given to those who had it made in Estonia, I am not sure however since I was born in 1991, during the last months of the SU, so I actually had a SU passport, but idk where it is at the moment.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"As mentioned, the internal passports identified every bearer by nationality (ethnicity) (пятая графа, natsional’nost’), e.g., Russian, Ukrainian, Uzbek, Estonian, Jew. This was on the so-called "fifth record" (пятая графа, pyataya grafa) of the passport. When an individual applied for his passport at age 16, his nationality would automatically be that of his parents if they were of the same nationality as one another (verified by the recorded nationality of the parents on the applicant's birth certificate). If they differed in nationality (again, based on the parents' nationality on the child's birth certificate), then the applicant would have to choose between the two nationalities. In this way an individual's passport nationality was fixed for life at age 16."


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So that also means that only ethnic Russians were granted citizenship in Russia?
I don't even understand what your point is.

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I think there was written on the passport the Soviet State of which it was made in, perhaps the citizenship was given to those who had it made in Estonia, I am not sure however since I was born in 1991, during the last months of the SU, so I actually had a SU passport, but idk where it is at the moment.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"As mentioned, the internal passports identified every bearer by nationality (ethnicity) (пятая графа, natsional’nost’), e.g., Russian, Ukrainian, Uzbek, Estonian, Jew. This was on the so-called "fifth record" (пятая графа, pyataya grafa) of the passport. When an individual applied for his passport at age 16, his nationality would automatically be that of his parents if they were of the same nationality as one another (verified by the recorded nationality of the parents on the applicant's birth certificate). If they differed in nationality (again, based on the parents' nationality on the child's birth certificate), then the applicant would have to choose between the two nationalities. In this way an individual's passport nationality was fixed for life at age 16."


dowager
 Quoting: Tamonten


So that also means that only ethnic Russians were granted citizenship in Russia?
I don't even understand what your point is.
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My point is you didn't ever have SU passport if you were born in 1991. And in Russia every SU citizen with "propiska" in RSFSR recieved Russian citizenship - and some people from other republics that applied in time.
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woo
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is this a bad sign? Is there any president ?
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unsure imho.
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While the EU currently shows a united front on possible economic penalties against Russia for its interference in Ukraine, that could change once more serious sanctions are on the table. Germany is struggling to maintain the facade.

[link to www.spiegel.de]
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I think there was written on the passport the Soviet State of which it was made in, perhaps the citizenship was given to those who had it made in Estonia, I am not sure however since I was born in 1991, during the last months of the SU, so I actually had a SU passport, but idk where it is at the moment.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"As mentioned, the internal passports identified every bearer by nationality (ethnicity) (пятая графа, natsional’nost’), e.g., Russian, Ukrainian, Uzbek, Estonian, Jew. This was on the so-called "fifth record" (пятая графа, pyataya grafa) of the passport. When an individual applied for his passport at age 16, his nationality would automatically be that of his parents if they were of the same nationality as one another (verified by the recorded nationality of the parents on the applicant's birth certificate). If they differed in nationality (again, based on the parents' nationality on the child's birth certificate), then the applicant would have to choose between the two nationalities. In this way an individual's passport nationality was fixed for life at age 16."


dowager
 Quoting: Tamonten


So that also means that only ethnic Russians were granted citizenship in Russia?
I don't even understand what your point is.
 Quoting: Skizzy


My point is you didn't ever have SU passport if you were born in 1991. And in Russia every SU citizen with "propiska" in RSFSR recieved Russian citizenship - and some people from other republics that applied in time.
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I don't remember really what I had, what does it matter anyway, I had the soviet birth certificate then, I remember some document between green covers and the soviet emblem.
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Russian Market @russian_market · 22 seg

C'est la vie. @minefornothing: POLISH PM TUSK SAYS EU AID PAYING UKRAINE'S GAZPROM BILL `UNACCEPTABLE'


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Eu may support your revolution and get you into power if you'll carry out their agenda, but they do not have your back.

I can see eastern ukraine become a lot more powerful than the western half. With their industry and resources, they may one day be able to march into kiev themselves.
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A law creating a public television system in Ukraine has just been signed. It is a crucial step for independent media and freedom of press in Ukraine.

Meanwhile, Russia is rapidly heading in the opposite direction, with governmental-legal attacks on freedom of press, speech, and assembly, among others.
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a free democratic media/press in west Ukraine????
made me laugh so hard I almost drowned in my own piss.
who will guarantee the freedom of expression: the US department, Nuland, Blackwater "editorialists ", or the poets of privy sektor?
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woo
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is this a bad sign? Is there any president ?
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In time of possible crisis must be all emergency and armed forces available ASAP... So yes, it could be bad sign...

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former USSR members, especially Baltics, Ukraine and Poland have been brainwashed by the bolsheviks to hate russians. They are basically manchurian candidates. The bolshevik revolution was a western backed uprising, a ploy to destroy Russia.
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


What sense does that make? The Bolsheviks brainwashed most Russians to love the SU, but they weren't able to brainwash the rest of Eastern Europe. The Bolsheviks didnt try to brainwash anybody to hating Russians but to love the SU, and they only succeeded brainwashing a large portion of imperialist mindset Russians.

The Bolsheviks = SU = The predecessor of modern Russia. So how could they have brainwashed anybody to hating themselves?

The problem is that Russians themselves were brainwashed, which indeed undermines true Russian patriotism until this day. If Russians weren't brainwashed by the Bolsheviks and the SU did not come to existence, things would be very different today.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Where is that Zhirinovsky video again?.. baffle
 Quoting: Tamonten


If the Bolsheviks didn't overthrow the Tsar, The standard of living today could be on the level of western Europe, Russia could have around 250 million people instead of 150 million, and it could have been the leading country in the world. Such wasted potential.
 Quoting: Skizzy



Your a retard, live in that region and don't know the history.

The Tsars abdicated way before the RCW. Bolshevilks overthrew Kerensky - the liberal Kadets and the Socialist Menshivelks
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C'est la vie. @minefornothing: POLISH PM TUSK SAYS EU AID PAYING UKRAINE'S GAZPROM BILL `UNACCEPTABLE'


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Jan the nazi in washington dc, just said that the russians must give their gas away for free. do that mean russian gas we are useing in uk is stolen goods, and should the distributors not be arrested?

in uk law if you buy something that was stolen, through 3rd 4th or 5th party, the goods are confiscated and returned to the owner and you goto jail for being the receiver of stolen goods.
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former USSR members, especially Baltics, Ukraine and Poland have been brainwashed by the bolsheviks to hate russians. They are basically manchurian candidates. The bolshevik revolution was a western backed uprising, a ploy to destroy Russia.
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


What sense does that make? The Bolsheviks brainwashed most Russians to love the SU, but they weren't able to brainwash the rest of Eastern Europe. The Bolsheviks didnt try to brainwash anybody to hating Russians but to love the SU, and they only succeeded brainwashing a large portion of imperialist mindset Russians.

The Bolsheviks = SU = The predecessor of modern Russia. So how could they have brainwashed anybody to hating themselves?

The problem is that Russians themselves were brainwashed, which indeed undermines true Russian patriotism until this day. If Russians weren't brainwashed by the Bolsheviks and the SU did not come to existence, things would be very different today.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Russian Revolution was Jewish ethnic revenge against Slavs for the Pale of Settlement. Brainwash is really mass murder, gulags, forced starvation, torture and property confiscation.

Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans fully recognise this History. Russians have been so thoroughly fucked that they can't properly comprehend what happened to them. Otherwise they would 100% disassociate themselves from everything Soviet.
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What sense does that make? The Bolsheviks brainwashed most Russians to love the SU, but they weren't able to brainwash the rest of Eastern Europe. The Bolsheviks didnt try to brainwash anybody to hating Russians but to love the SU, and they only succeeded brainwashing a large portion of imperialist mindset Russians.

The Bolsheviks = SU = The predecessor of modern Russia. So how could they have brainwashed anybody to hating themselves?

The problem is that Russians themselves were brainwashed, which indeed undermines true Russian patriotism until this day. If Russians weren't brainwashed by the Bolsheviks and the SU did not come to existence, things would be very different today.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Where is that Zhirinovsky video again?.. baffle
 Quoting: Tamonten


If the Bolsheviks didn't overthrow the Tsar, The standard of living today could be on the level of western Europe, Russia could have around 250 million people instead of 150 million, and it could have been the leading country in the world. Such wasted potential.
 Quoting: Skizzy



Your a retard, live in that region and don't know the history.

The Tsars abdicated way before the RCW. Bolshevilks overthrew Kerensky - the liberal Kadets and the Socialist Menshivelks
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don't get bogged down in the detail, they were bankrolled by the Rothschild family, end of story.
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Lagarde Christine head of the IMF urged Kiev to fulfil the agendas of structural reforms which are part of the "aid pack":
cut in salaries/pensions/public employment (around 25% less), rising taxes over energy/food...., privatisation of many sectors, rise of the gas prices......
about the same or even bigger austerity plan than the one inflicted to the greeks
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former USSR members, especially Baltics, Ukraine and Poland have been brainwashed by the bolsheviks to hate russians. They are basically manchurian candidates. The bolshevik revolution was a western backed uprising, a ploy to destroy Russia.
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


What sense does that make? The Bolsheviks brainwashed most Russians to love the SU, but they weren't able to brainwash the rest of Eastern Europe. The Bolsheviks didnt try to brainwash anybody to hating Russians but to love the SU, and they only succeeded brainwashing a large portion of imperialist mindset Russians.

The Bolsheviks = SU = The predecessor of modern Russia. So how could they have brainwashed anybody to hating themselves?

The problem is that Russians themselves were brainwashed, which indeed undermines true Russian patriotism until this day. If Russians weren't brainwashed by the Bolsheviks and the SU did not come to existence, things would be very different today.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Russian Revolution was Jewish ethnic revenge against Slavs for the Pale of Settlement. Brainwash is really mass murder, gulags, forced starvation, torture and property confiscation.

Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans fully recognise this History. Russians have been so thoroughly fucked that they can't properly comprehend what happened to them. Otherwise they would 100% disassociate themselves from everything Soviet.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Most of the powers (generals ect) of former soviet union were ukranian, and kiev was at one time the capital of russia, so historically kiev belongs to russia under todays us presentation of territorial integrity.
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What sense does that make? The Bolsheviks brainwashed most Russians to love the SU, but they weren't able to brainwash the rest of Eastern Europe. The Bolsheviks didnt try to brainwash anybody to hating Russians but to love the SU, and they only succeeded brainwashing a large portion of imperialist mindset Russians.

The Bolsheviks = SU = The predecessor of modern Russia. So how could they have brainwashed anybody to hating themselves?

The problem is that Russians themselves were brainwashed, which indeed undermines true Russian patriotism until this day. If Russians weren't brainwashed by the Bolsheviks and the SU did not come to existence, things would be very different today.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Where is that Zhirinovsky video again?.. baffle
 Quoting: Tamonten


If the Bolsheviks didn't overthrow the Tsar, The standard of living today could be on the level of western Europe, Russia could have around 250 million people instead of 150 million, and it could have been the leading country in the world. Such wasted potential.
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Yes that's what I'm saying it was a western backed coup to prevent Russia from taking Constantinople afte rthe decline of the ottoman empire and at the same time create russophobia among slavic nations that can be activated when needed.

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Just wondering if there are any sources for this unadulterated BS?
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What sense does that make? The Bolsheviks brainwashed most Russians to love the SU, but they weren't able to brainwash the rest of Eastern Europe. The Bolsheviks didnt try to brainwash anybody to hating Russians but to love the SU, and they only succeeded brainwashing a large portion of imperialist mindset Russians.

The Bolsheviks = SU = The predecessor of modern Russia. So how could they have brainwashed anybody to hating themselves?

The problem is that Russians themselves were brainwashed, which indeed undermines true Russian patriotism until this day. If Russians weren't brainwashed by the Bolsheviks and the SU did not come to existence, things would be very different today.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Where is that Zhirinovsky video again?.. baffle
 Quoting: Tamonten


If the Bolsheviks didn't overthrow the Tsar, The standard of living today could be on the level of western Europe, Russia could have around 250 million people instead of 150 million, and it could have been the leading country in the world. Such wasted potential.
 Quoting: Skizzy



Your a retard, live in that region and don't know the history.

The Tsars abdicated way before the RCW. Bolshevilks overthrew Kerensky - the liberal Kadets and the Socialist Menshivelks
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You are the retard, The Tsar was executed on the direct orders of Lenin. Wtf are you smoking dude.
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Taruta says separatists’ republic ‘does not exist,’ vows to hold presidential elections in Donetsk Oblast

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Good luck with that!
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former USSR members, especially Baltics, Ukraine and Poland have been brainwashed by the bolsheviks to hate russians. They are basically manchurian candidates. The bolshevik revolution was a western backed uprising, a ploy to destroy Russia.
 Quoting: NotZuckerberg


What sense does that make? The Bolsheviks brainwashed most Russians to love the SU, but they weren't able to brainwash the rest of Eastern Europe. The Bolsheviks didnt try to brainwash anybody to hating Russians but to love the SU, and they only succeeded brainwashing a large portion of imperialist mindset Russians.

The Bolsheviks = SU = The predecessor of modern Russia. So how could they have brainwashed anybody to hating themselves?

The problem is that Russians themselves were brainwashed, which indeed undermines true Russian patriotism until this day. If Russians weren't brainwashed by the Bolsheviks and the SU did not come to existence, things would be very different today.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Russian Revolution was Jewish ethnic revenge against Slavs for the Pale of Settlement. Brainwash is really mass murder, gulags, forced starvation, torture and property confiscation.

Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans fully recognise this History. Russians have been so thoroughly fucked that they can't properly comprehend what happened to them. Otherwise they would 100% disassociate themselves from everything Soviet.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Most of the powers (generals ect) of former soviet union were ukranian, and kiev was at one time the capital of russia, so historically kiev belongs to russia under todays us presentation of territorial integrity.
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I think that makes Russia belong to Ukraine....
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What sense does that make? The Bolsheviks brainwashed most Russians to love the SU, but they weren't able to brainwash the rest of Eastern Europe. The Bolsheviks didnt try to brainwash anybody to hating Russians but to love the SU, and they only succeeded brainwashing a large portion of imperialist mindset Russians.

The Bolsheviks = SU = The predecessor of modern Russia. So how could they have brainwashed anybody to hating themselves?

The problem is that Russians themselves were brainwashed, which indeed undermines true Russian patriotism until this day. If Russians weren't brainwashed by the Bolsheviks and the SU did not come to existence, things would be very different today.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Russian Revolution was Jewish ethnic revenge against Slavs for the Pale of Settlement. Brainwash is really mass murder, gulags, forced starvation, torture and property confiscation.

Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans fully recognise this History. Russians have been so thoroughly fucked that they can't properly comprehend what happened to them. Otherwise they would 100% disassociate themselves from everything Soviet.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Most of the powers (generals ect) of former soviet union were ukranian, and kiev was at one time the capital of russia, so historically kiev belongs to russia under todays us presentation of territorial integrity.
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I think that makes Russia belong to Ukraine....
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Actually Kievan Rus' is the predecessor of Russian culture, so you can indeed argue that Russia is Ukraine.
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Russian Revolution was Jewish ethnic revenge against Slavs for the Pale of Settlement. Brainwash is really mass murder, gulags, forced starvation, torture and property confiscation.

Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans fully recognise this History. Russians have been so thoroughly fucked that they can't properly comprehend what happened to them. Otherwise they would 100% disassociate themselves from everything Soviet.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Most of the powers (generals ect) of former soviet union were ukranian, and kiev was at one time the capital of russia, so historically kiev belongs to russia under todays us presentation of territorial integrity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58022786


I think that makes Russia belong to Ukraine....
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Actually Kievan Rus' is the predecessor of Russian culture, so you can indeed argue that Russia is Ukraine.
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there is no real difference....
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Most of the powers (generals ect) of former soviet union were ukranian, and kiev was at one time the capital of russia, so historically kiev belongs to russia under todays us presentation of territorial integrity.
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I think that makes Russia belong to Ukraine....
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Actually Kievan Rus' is the predecessor of Russian culture, so you can indeed argue that Russia is Ukraine.
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there is no real difference....
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You are right there isn't, only difference is that Russians aren't as pure Slavs as other Slavonic countries, Russians are often mixed with Finno-Ugrics, Central Asians, Caucasians, Tatars, etc...

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I don't remember really what I had, what does it matter anyway, I had the soviet birth certificate then, I remember some document between green covers and the soviet emblem.
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Yes, that may be it.
My point is you are constantly saying something based on hear-say as factual truth. Try at least google a bit before that.

Yes that's what I'm saying it was a western backed coup to prevent Russia from taking Constantinople afte rthe decline of the ottoman empire and at the same time create russophobia among slavic nations that can be activated when needed.

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Just wondering if there are any sources for this unadulterated BS?
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Lenin's books actually. He've said that.

Your a retard, live in that region and don't know the history.

The Tsars abdicated way before the RCW. Bolshevilks overthrew Kerensky - the liberal Kadets and the Socialist Menshivelks
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You are the retard, The Tsar was executed on the direct orders of Lenin. Wtf are you smoking dude.
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And where's contradiction there? Emperor abducated but was keeped alive - until Lenin came.

Most of the powers (generals ect) of former soviet union were ukranian, and kiev was at one time the capital of russia, so historically kiev belongs to russia under todays us presentation of territorial integrity.
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I think that makes Russia belong to Ukraine....
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Actually Kievan Rus' is the predecessor of Russian culture, so you can indeed argue that Russia is Ukraine.
 Quoting: Skizzy


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] - there IS difference. If old capital of a country was abandoned and then reconqueared several centuries later, would it's population of the time (of different ethnicity) suddenly became masters of the state?

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