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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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I've been off from GLP for the past three days or so...whats the latest development in this story? Did Kiev made any advancments in Slavlyansk area or elsewhere?

I dont really watch MSM and even if I would they wouldnt tell me whats going on....


Anybody, pretty please hf
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No real development from a military point of view, seems to be a stalemate at Slavlyansk, daily skirmishes but nothing else.

The biggest development being touted so far in SE-Ukraine is the so-called miners people's militia which has forced out pro-russian rebels from Mariupol. It seems however that many are choosing this path because they have to - their employer Akhmetov owns their asses - but I think this might backfire on him at some point.

Keep in mind those 280,000 workers only make up about 5-6% of the population in Donetsk Oblast so it remains to be seen how they will influence events in the days and weeks to come.
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I've been off from GLP for the past three days or so...whats the latest development in this story? Did Kiev made any advancments in Slavlyansk area or elsewhere?

I dont really watch MSM and even if I would they wouldnt tell me whats going on....


Anybody, pretty please hf
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Do I really have to go through 50+ pages? Just tell me how are freedom fighters doing in Slavyansk...any major batlles in the last 24 hours?
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flightradar already shows Donetsk inside russian territory
(borders) [link to www.flightradar24.com]
 Quoting: HE 58127176

Flights seem however to be avoiding the area above Slaviansk/Lugansk.
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

They use to avoid the whole of Ukraine during the night,
daytime is different, certain countries avoid the East of Ukraine.
Has been documented here

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Really? I've missed that one. Any theories as to why they would avoid flying over the entire Ukranian territory specifically at night?
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Flights seem however to be avoiding the area above Slaviansk/Lugansk.
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

They use to avoid the whole of Ukraine during the night,
daytime is different, certain countries avoid the East of Ukraine.
Has been documented here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

For example this one, normally he goes straight...
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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I've been off from GLP for the past three days or so...whats the latest development in this story? Did Kiev made any advancments in Slavlyansk area or elsewhere?

I dont really watch MSM and even if I would they wouldnt tell me whats going on....


Anybody, pretty please hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56431021


No real development from a military point of view, seems to be a stalemate at Slavlyansk, daily skirmishes but nothing else.

The biggest development being touted so far in SE-Ukraine is the so-called miners people's militia which has forced out pro-russian rebels from Mariupol. It seems however that many are choosing this path because they have to - their employer Akhmetov owns their asses - but I think this might backfire on him at some point.

Keep in mind those 280,000 workers only make up about 5-6% of the population in Donetsk Oblast so it remains to be seen how they will influence events in the days and weeks to come.
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That is strange! Miners in Donetsk region were on Russian side so far. It doesnt add up....Thank you Iskander hf
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I think Obama was hoping for a quick Russian invasion and annexation of Ukraine. He doesn't normally do what the Zionists in DC want - which is fight wars that benefit Israel. His Iran policy is telling. Its only the Zionists in DC that actually have supported Ukraine.
[link to www.thedailybeast.com]
Strange if you are Pro-Ukraine but anti-Zionist..
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Stranger that "Pro-Ukrainians" wouldn't know Bolshevik-Zionists were the agents of the Holodomor. Right, bucko? Or do you only know history from CNN?


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I have said that a few times in previous posts. Doesn't mean they don't support the Ukrainians now as it serves the purpose of fucking with Putin. Zionists will stab Ukrainians in the back as soon as Putin is dealt with. Doesn't stop me wishing for a Ukraine free of foreign manipulation.
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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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I think Obama was hoping for a quick Russian invasion and annexation of Ukraine. He doesn't normally do what the Zionists in DC want - which is fight wars that benefit Israel. His Iran policy is telling. Its only the Zionists in DC that actually have supported Ukraine.
[link to www.thedailybeast.com]
Strange if you are Pro-Ukraine but anti-Zionist..
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Stranger that "Pro-Ukrainians" wouldn't know Bolshevik-Zionists were the agents of the Holodomor. Right, bucko? Or do you only know history from CNN?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37648298


I have said that a few times in previous posts. Doesn't mean they don't support the Ukrainians now as it serves the purpose of fucking with Putin. Zionists will stab Ukrainians in the back as soon as Putin is dealt with. Doesn't stop me wishing for a Ukraine free of foreign manipulation.
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This Will never happen. As much as we want to foreign powers are to strong and to deceitful. Especially USA/EU side. But Russians are the same they cant afford to lose UA. Thats why it Will never happen but it would be best for UA.

UA is top 5 country in Europe by size and they got plenty of resources to flourish. Problem is their low self esteem...
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Flights seem however to be avoiding the area above Slaviansk/Lugansk.
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

They use to avoid the whole of Ukraine during the night,
daytime is different, certain countries avoid the East of Ukraine.
Has been documented here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

For example this one, normally he goes straight...
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611


Well, I can imagine why El Al and some others would choose avoid Eastern Ukraine but to avoid the entire territory of Ukraine only by night and not by day doesn't make sense to me.

Do you have any idea why?

I sure can't come up with some plausible reason. Avoiding Eastern Ukraine permanently makes sense since at least one SA-6 SAM battery has been taken over by the pro-russian rebels.
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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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WTF? I was tracking that Gulfstream near Rostov and BAM it just disappeared???
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They use to avoid the whole of Ukraine during the night,
daytime is different, certain countries avoid the East of Ukraine.
Has been documented here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

For example this one, normally he goes straight...
[link to www.flightradar24.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

Well, I can imagine why El Al and some others would choose avoid Eastern Ukraine but to avoid the entire territory of Ukraine only by night and not by day doesn't make sense to me.

Do you have any idea why?
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

I have no idea why. Certainly do the airlines know more than we know, and in this way watching them gives a good picture of an imminent danger.
If you compare it to Syria and Crimea, not one plane goes over there. So as long as only certain airlines avoid Ukr....

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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

WTF? I was tracking that Gulfstream near Rostov and BAM it just disappeared???
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

Yesterday we had 5 of them coming directly out of the sea!!!
Did you see that?

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RUSSIAN TROOPS MOVE TOWARDS BORDER

Yes, I know Tymchuk tweeted it and he has not been right yet. However, i have just had this confirmed by NATO sources. For once, the guy is correct!

They are moving towards the border at Lugansk in large numbers, in to the thousands in a number of convoys, including armour.

I have zero confirmation of what Tymchuk had to say about the troops preparing for a peacekeeping operation. NATO has no idea of the purpose of the movements and the Russians are not saying. They may well just circulate around a bit like they did a couple of weeks ago at the border.

We have been here before so right now I question Tymchuks statement of an imminent invasion. Way to early to tell what they are up to, except moving around.
 Quoting: Janey


What are your thoughts on this Janey? Does this mean anything?

Pravda: Separatists in Donetsk May 18 plan "open border"
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RUSSIAN TROOPS MOVE TOWARDS BORDER

Yes, I know Tymchuk tweeted it and he has not been right yet. However, i have just had this confirmed by NATO sources. For once, the guy is correct!

They are moving towards the border at Lugansk in large numbers, in to the thousands in a number of convoys, including armour.

I have zero confirmation of what Tymchuk had to say about the troops preparing for a peacekeeping operation. NATO has no idea of the purpose of the movements and the Russians are not saying. They may well just circulate around a bit like they did a couple of weeks ago at the border.

We have been here before so right now I question Tymchuks statement of an imminent invasion. Way to early to tell what they are up to, except moving around.
 Quoting: Janey


What are your thoughts on this Janey? Does this mean anything?

Pravda: Separatists in Donetsk May 18 plan "open border"
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The State Border service have just issued a press release saying they will resist all efforts to open the border and fully intend to maintain a secure crossing.
delivering the news
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BORDER TO RUSSIA WILL REMAIN SECURE IN EAST AND SEPARATIST WISHES WILL BE IGNORED - Ukraine Border Service
delivering the news
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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

WTF? I was tracking that Gulfstream near Rostov and BAM it just disappeared???
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

Yesterday we had 5 of them coming directly out of the sea!!!
Did you see that?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611


LOL what? No, I missed that one!

Anyone know how Flightradar24 collects and translates its data?
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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

WTF? I was tracking that Gulfstream near Rostov and BAM it just disappeared???
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

Yesterday we had 5 of them coming directly out of the sea!!!
Did you see that?

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Out of the sea?! abduct
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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

WTF? I was tracking that Gulfstream near Rostov and BAM it just disappeared???
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

Yesterday we had 5 of them coming directly out of the sea!!!
Did you see that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

Swiss guy with suitcase is back
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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RUSSIAN TROOPS MOVE TOWARDS BORDER

Yes, I know Tymchuk tweeted it and he has not been right yet. However, i have just had this confirmed by NATO sources. For once, the guy is correct!

They are moving towards the border at Lugansk in large numbers, in to the thousands in a number of convoys, including armour.

I have zero confirmation of what Tymchuk had to say about the troops preparing for a peacekeeping operation. NATO has no idea of the purpose of the movements and the Russians are not saying. They may well just circulate around a bit like they did a couple of weeks ago at the border.

We have been here before so right now I question Tymchuks statement of an imminent invasion. Way to early to tell what they are up to, except moving around.
 Quoting: Janey


What are your thoughts on this Janey? Does this mean anything?

Pravda: Separatists in Donetsk May 18 plan "open border"
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Its gonna blow up any time now, this is what've been waiting for. hiding
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RUSSIAN TROOPS MOVE TOWARDS BORDER

Yes, I know Tymchuk tweeted it and he has not been right yet. However, i have just had this confirmed by NATO sources. For once, the guy is correct!

They are moving towards the border at Lugansk in large numbers, in to the thousands in a number of convoys, including armour.

I have zero confirmation of what Tymchuk had to say about the troops preparing for a peacekeeping operation. NATO has no idea of the purpose of the movements and the Russians are not saying. They may well just circulate around a bit like they did a couple of weeks ago at the border.

We have been here before so right now I question Tymchuks statement of an imminent invasion. Way to early to tell what they are up to, except moving around.
 Quoting: Janey


What are your thoughts on this Janey? Does this mean anything?

Pravda: Separatists in Donetsk May 18 plan "open border"
 Quoting: < DL >


Its gonna blow up any time now, this is what've been waiting for. hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56431021


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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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Interesting what do you think is in there?
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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

WTF? I was tracking that Gulfstream near Rostov and BAM it just disappeared???
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

Yesterday we had 5 of them coming directly out of the sea!!!
Did you see that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611

Swiss guy with suitcase is back
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611


He's approx. 2000 ft above an Emirates A380, maybe thats why he "disappeared"? ;)
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flightradar already shows Donetsk inside russian territory
(borders)
 Quoting: HE 58127176

There are two Donetsk, one is in Russia, one in Ukraine, look here
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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And another one must be in Pakistan according to CNN info whole eastern ukraine is there.
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Certainly can't listen to CNN if you want the truth. Operated by the Government. They are a joke.
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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611


Interesting what do you think is in there?
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I know the contents of that suitcase, however, if I were to tell you, you would NOT sleep tonight, are the nights thereafter
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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611


Interesting what do you think is in there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58130570


I know the contents of that suitcase, however, if I were to tell you, you would NOT sleep tonight, are the nights thereafter
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Ooh, scary! Let me guess, harvested organs from homeless Roma children for a wealthy client in Asia?
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I think Obama was hoping for a quick Russian invasion and annexation of Ukraine. He doesn't normally do what the Zionists in DC want - which is fight wars that benefit Israel. His Iran policy is telling. Its only the Zionists in DC that actually have supported Ukraine.
[link to www.thedailybeast.com]
Strange if you are Pro-Ukraine but anti-Zionist..
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Stranger that "Pro-Ukrainians" wouldn't know Bolshevik-Zionists were the agents of the Holodomor. Right, bucko? Or do you only know history from CNN?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37648298


I have said that a few times in previous posts. Doesn't mean they don't support the Ukrainians now as it serves the purpose of fucking with Putin. Zionists will stab Ukrainians in the back as soon as Putin is dealt with. Doesn't stop me wishing for a Ukraine free of foreign manipulation.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Well maybe that's why Ukrainians are so fucked up. It must be collective schizophrenia to have your family genocided in a planned famine by Communists then forced to live under yoke of Communism for another 2 generations, while being indoctrinated the Bolshevik-Communists saved you from annihilation and if weren't for Communists the Germans would take over and starve all the Ukranians.

It's a wonder that Ukranians are not more fuck up than they apparently are. I mean considering they got the Palesinian treatment before the Palestinians. If you can see my point.


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Nothing major will happen till Russia actually decides to invade,if they do. If they don't invade soon I don't think they will,things clearly aren't going to get much better there.
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A suitcase from Switzerland, Sir?
[link to www.flightradar24.com]

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58131611


WTF? I was tracking that Gulfstream near Rostov and BAM it just disappeared???
 Quoting: Iskander 3910366

there are two Gulfstreams who do that thing near every day
half hour before the other one was looking like took off from
cherkasy (no airport there)and disappeared after donetsk
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ONGOING SHOOTING AT KRAMATORSK AIRPORT

currently no injuries reported by either group. It seems to be an ongoing attempt to seize the runway
delivering the news
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BORDER TO RUSSIA WILL REMAIN SECURE IN EAST AND SEPARATIST WISHES WILL BE IGNORED - Ukraine Border Service
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welcome back janey
"The master understands that the universe is always out of control".
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The 5th Dimension principal of harmony reveals that supporting others creates strength. The lower dimension mind believes that acquiring or taking from others makes you stronger. Yet, as you can imagine, if all people desire to "take" from others, the fabric of the reality tears itself apart.
If you want to start prospering and growing stronger,start focusing on supporting others.

If you want to start prospering and growing stronger, focus on supporting others where you can. Give to others that cross YOUR PATH and you soon discover you will be given more. The 5th Dimension principal of harmony means that you will always have an abundance to do a good work.





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