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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Far right parties are set to win in most Euro countries (upcoming general Euro elections), so, Ukraine is just ahead of it's time.

Fascism is gaining strenght, however, Hunter Biden will make sure Kiev remains pro-gay, free and democratic
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pro russian Donetsk rally today
lets hope they decide to chill out and stay Ukrainian
[link to www.ustream.tv]
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


So they can continue being shelled, shot and treated like dogs? Not think so!

Ukraine is lost! Problem now is solvable only if one of the sides achieves military victory. The point of no return is crossed!

Europe is FUCKED. Relationship with Russia is history! Who ever orchestrated this in first place, GOOD WORK!

At some point Russia will intervene and then we shall see the beginning of the end!
The new Stalingrad battle! To be or not to be!

So fellow Americans, are we ready to show the russkies we are not to give up on our way of bombing disobedient countries into democracy until the end of times? Because if any sane is there left when shit starts we may have to kill every one of them. It's in their mentality, they will resist till the very end!
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Oh look, another Russian shill poser using an IP proxy pretending to be a westerner.

Western governments have got to get directly involved in this massive online Russian shilling and publicly out it for what it is so that the public is fully aware.

I'm going to contact everyone I can in government and demand this be done.
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Has it not occurred to you that millions of us HERE in the west see the west as the main threat to global security.
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pro russian Donetsk rally today
lets hope they decide to chill out and stay Ukrainian
[link to www.ustream.tv]
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


So they can continue being shelled, shot and treated like dogs? Not think so!

Ukraine is lost! Problem now is solvable only if one of the sides achieves military victory. The point of no return is crossed!

Europe is FUCKED. Relationship with Russia is history! Who ever orchestrated this in first place, GOOD WORK!

At some point Russia will intervene and then we shall see the beginning of the end!
The new Stalingrad battle! To be or not to be!

So fellow Americans, are we ready to show the russkies we are not to give up on our way of bombing disobedient countries into democracy until the end of times? Because if any sane is there left when shit starts we may have to kill every one of them. It's in their mentality, they will resist till the very end!
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Oh look, another Russian shill poser using an IP proxy pretending to be a westerner.

Western governments have got to get directly involved in this massive online Russian shilling and publicly out it for what it is so that the public is fully aware.

I'm going to contact everyone I can in government and demand this be done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58142790


You do that. Contact your government and demand to shut down those with different opinion. Real democracy at work!

Contact mod and ban those who oppose and ask legitimate questions! BRAVOO! Land of brave and home of free to think only as your government wish you to think!
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Condoleezza Rice with her own version of "FUCK THE EU"

CUI BONO ?

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[link to antifashist.com]

The leader of the "right sector" Dmitry Yarosh intends to use the Crimean Tatars as "allies Ukraine" and expand the guerrilla war in the Crimean peninsula to destabilize the situation .

The head of the party, uniting modern Ukrainian Nazis , said during a televised debate between the candidates for "president " of Ukraine .


"It is necessary first of all to use the Crimean Tatar factor that is absolutely allied to the Ukrainians . You need to deploy a guerrilla war in the Crimea. Disorient and destabilize the situation there" .

more at link

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Condoleezza Rice with her own version of "FUCK THE EU"

CUI BONO ?


 Quoting: firinne


WAR TALK!

How stupid can they be to go in war with nuclear superpower?
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Ukraine: The Road Ahead


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The news is grim. Despite a diplomatic agreement cobbled together to help calm the crisis between Ukraine and Russia, tensions mount. Pro-Russian activists continue to take and hold turf in eastern Ukraine—from administrative buildings to police stations—flouting cash-strapped Kyiv’s inability to muster a robust military response.

The United States and Europe watch anxiously, mindful of the sizable force Russia has marshaled at the border—and the potential for its conniving brand of psy war to become a model Moscow uses in Moldova, Georgia, and elsewhere. Domestic and other corporate pressures limit the ability of the United States and Europe to challenge Moscow’s hegemony more swiftly.

It is easy to forget, amid the headlines, the spirit of the Maidan that triggered these events. Average Ukrainians rose up in peaceful protest, and drove out a leader who was corrupted in the extreme. And it is that grassroots push for self-determination that Russia threatens now.

Certainly, Ukraine’s “glorious revolution” was not cost-free: the fringes of it continue to express unsavory (if not always unwelcome) nationalist appeals, and there are ethnic Russian concerns in Eastern Ukraine that are not unwarranted. Nonetheless, Moscow is seeking to destabilize Ukraine ahead of presidential elections in late May. It is more important than ever to support an independent Ukraine—one empowered to decide its own future.

The citizens who answered history’s call, and braved President Yanukovych’s bloody crackdown, stood for a principle. It took a toll. At this point solidarity with Ukraine’s Maidan from Russia and beyond is fundamental. The whole world is watching—and standing by.

source: [link to www.opensocietyfoundations.org]





You do not have to fight for us. We do not ask for that, and we would not want to ask that of you.

But we do ask you to pay attention. Pay very close attention and learn as much as you can.

In many decades ago, the Russians would have just gulaged and ethnic cleansed and genocided us all until they got their way. But now with you all watching and learning about all of this, Putin knows he cannot do it that way anymore, but he will try to as much evil as he can get away.

So please, just pay attention and learn as much as you can about what is going on in my country and speak about it.

Thank you
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Ukraine: The Road Ahead


[link to www.youtube.com]






The news is grim. Despite a diplomatic agreement cobbled together to help calm the crisis between Ukraine and Russia, tensions mount. Pro-Russian activists continue to take and hold turf in eastern Ukraine—from administrative buildings to police stations—flouting cash-strapped Kyiv’s inability to muster a robust military response.

The United States and Europe watch anxiously, mindful of the sizable force Russia has marshaled at the border—and the potential for its conniving brand of psy war to become a model Moscow uses in Moldova, Georgia, and elsewhere. Domestic and other corporate pressures limit the ability of the United States and Europe to challenge Moscow’s hegemony more swiftly.

It is easy to forget, amid the headlines, the spirit of the Maidan that triggered these events. Average Ukrainians rose up in peaceful protest, and drove out a leader who was corrupted in the extreme. And it is that grassroots push for self-determination that Russia threatens now.

Certainly, Ukraine’s “glorious revolution” was not cost-free: the fringes of it continue to express unsavory (if not always unwelcome) nationalist appeals, and there are ethnic Russian concerns in Eastern Ukraine that are not unwarranted. Nonetheless, Moscow is seeking to destabilize Ukraine ahead of presidential elections in late May. It is more important than ever to support an independent Ukraine—one empowered to decide its own future.

The citizens who answered history’s call, and braved President Yanukovych’s bloody crackdown, stood for a principle. It took a toll. At this point solidarity with Ukraine’s Maidan from Russia and beyond is fundamental. The whole world is watching—and standing by.

source: [link to www.opensocietyfoundations.org]





You do not have to fight for us. We do not ask for that, and we would not want to ask that of you.

But we do ask you to pay attention. Pay very close attention and learn as much as you can.

In many decades ago, the Russians would have just gulaged and ethnic cleansed and genocided us all until they got their way. But now with you all watching and learning about all of this, Putin knows he cannot do it that way anymore, but he will try to as much evil as he can get away.

So please, just pay attention and learn as much as you can about what is going on in my country and speak about it.

Thank you
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Soros? Is that you?LOL
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pro russian Donetsk rally today
lets hope they decide to chill out and stay Ukrainian
[link to www.ustream.tv]
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There's like 30 people there lol.
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Crimean Tartar gathering
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Condoleezza Rice with her own version of "FUCK THE EU"

CUI BONO ?


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WAR TALK!

How stupid can they be to go in war with nuclear superpower?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55337742


I think these lunatics actually believe what they are seeing through their own geopolitical goggles, as in best case scenario is massive military budget increase and the supply of gas and oil to the EU by US and Canadian corps.
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#Donetsk People's Republic leader Pushilin speaks to separatists at Lenin Sq. Small crowd, ~300. DPR Losing steam.
[link to pic.twitter.com]
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Most people on this thread keep telling me Russia of today has nothing to do with the Soviet Russia of 25 years ago !

Well the people who can say this are either uninformed westerners who know nothing about Russian or Russian shills, more likely the former !

[link to timedotcom.files.wordpress.com]

This^ is just one picture of the dozens of Soviet Union flags being waved in Donetsk and Crimea !

Wake up people, Putin's dream is to bring back the Soviet Union and he has enough support among Russians to do it !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22880747


The flag is a sentimental symbol, nothing more than that. Hard to explain unless one is familiar with Russian culture and the spirit of Russian patriotism.
Putin doesn't want to bring back the Soviet Union. Sorry.
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That is your opinion based on I have no idea on what. There are other, different opinions, some based on something more tangible and verifiable.

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NATO False Flags & Operation Gladio in Ukraine
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pro russian Donetsk rally today
lets hope they decide to chill out and stay Ukrainian
[link to www.ustream.tv]
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


So they can continue being shelled, shot and treated like dogs? Not think so!

Ukraine is lost! Problem now is solvable only if one of the sides achieves military victory. The point of no return is crossed!

Europe is FUCKED. Relationship with Russia is history! Who ever orchestrated this in first place, GOOD WORK!

At some point Russia will intervene and then we shall see the beginning of the end!
The new Stalingrad battle! To be or not to be!

So fellow Americans, are we ready to show the russkies we are not to give up on our way of bombing disobedient countries into democracy until the end of times? Because if any sane is there left when shit starts we may have to kill every one of them. It's in their mentality, they will resist till the very end!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55337742



Oh look, another Russian shill poser using an IP proxy pretending to be a westerner.

Western governments have got to get directly involved in this massive online Russian shilling and publicly out it for what it is so that the public is fully aware.

I'm going to contact everyone I can in government and demand this be done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58142790


You do that. Contact your government and demand to shut down those with different opinion. Real democracy at work!

Contact mod and ban those who oppose and ask legitimate questions! BRAVOO! Land of brave and home of free to think only as your government wish you to think!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55337742


The pot calls the kettle black. Today Kremlin suppresses any dissidence. So, start from yourself and go complaining in your Putistan.
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Russian terrorists with their ethnic cleansing vehicles came to greet the Tatars in Crimea.


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And the price "shill of the day" goes to:Anonymous Coward
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hesright
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Christopher Miller @ChristopherJM
#Donetsk People's Republic leader Pushilin speaks to separatists at Lenin Sq. Small crowd, ~300. DPR Losing steam.
[link to pic.twitter.com]
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Petr Shelomovskiy @shelomovskiy
Prorussian meeting is officially over now in #Donetsk. People are leaving the square
[link to pic.twitter.com]




It's pretty much over unless Putin/Yanukovych start dumping major cash to buy major numbers of people, or use the Russian military inside Ukraine.
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pro russian Donetsk rally today
lets hope they decide to chill out and stay Ukrainian
[link to www.ustream.tv]
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There's like 30 people there lol.
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30 Baba's
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Crimean Tatars: Embrace Russia or leave your homeland
Crimean Tatars are facing a harsh new reality under Moscow's rule.

[link to www.aljazeera.com]
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So they can continue being shelled, shot and treated like dogs? Not think so!

Ukraine is lost! Problem now is solvable only if one of the sides achieves military victory. The point of no return is crossed!

Europe is FUCKED. Relationship with Russia is history! Who ever orchestrated this in first place, GOOD WORK!

At some point Russia will intervene and then we shall see the beginning of the end!
The new Stalingrad battle! To be or not to be!

So fellow Americans, are we ready to show the russkies we are not to give up on our way of bombing disobedient countries into democracy until the end of times? Because if any sane is there left when shit starts we may have to kill every one of them. It's in their mentality, they will resist till the very end!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55337742



Oh look, another Russian shill poser using an IP proxy pretending to be a westerner.

Western governments have got to get directly involved in this massive online Russian shilling and publicly out it for what it is so that the public is fully aware.

I'm going to contact everyone I can in government and demand this be done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58142790


You do that. Contact your government and demand to shut down those with different opinion. Real democracy at work!

Contact mod and ban those who oppose and ask legitimate questions! BRAVOO! Land of brave and home of free to think only as your government wish you to think!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55337742


The pot calls the kettle black. Today Kremlin suppresses any dissidence. So, start from yourself and go complaining in your Putistan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58199058


Stick to Soros! He will bring plenty of prosperity! And plenty of Konchitas for free!
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Mods deleting again? BRAVO!
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I'm starting to believe this thread is starting to get censored BIG time... too many inconveniant stuff circulating...
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Well they cant censure whole internet! Yet!
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Heavy RU police presence in #Simferopol to intimidate Crimean Tatar rally to mark 70/yrs anniversary 4 deportation
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Ryskeldi Satke @RyskeldiSatke
Over 10,000 people in the district of Akmechet, Simferopol. via Zair Akadyrov, Zaman ATR
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Simferopol: watch Crimea Tatars being escorted by police to their deportation rally on the city's outskirts

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#Donetsk People's Republic leader Pushilin speaks to separatists at Lenin Sq. Small crowd, ~300. DPR Losing steam.
[link to pic.twitter.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55647820



Petr Shelomovskiy @shelomovskiy
Prorussian meeting is officially over now in #Donetsk. People are leaving the square
[link to pic.twitter.com]




It's pretty much over unless Putin/Yanukovych start dumping major cash to buy major numbers of people, or use the Russian military inside Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55647820


2 days time, Shanghai meeting including Russia, China, Iran. May 25 Euro and Ukraine elections. one week and things could be quite different...
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"Ukraune is not yet dead
But we are working on it"
"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

"Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings"
"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat.
"Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker

Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one.
Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation!

Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows.
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@AndrijUKR
supporters of Donetsk Republic today in Donetsk [link to pic.twitter.com]


Maybe Putin will step down this week, and Ukrainian military moves in to secure Crimea within a month.
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Between 1921-1933, up to 1/2 of all Crimean Tatars died as a result of Soviet policies. Then 1944's deportation followed.

Crimean Tatars and Chechens were both forced to leave their homelands down to the last person to far away lands at the hands of Russians.

Crimean Tatars weren't permitted to return to Crimea, mainly from foreign Uzbekistan, until late 1980s - and never received help returning.

After deporting the Crimean Tatars en masse, Stalin resettled Crimea with mostly ethnic Russians.

Crimean Tatars are sadly again facing intimidation in their homeland at the hands of Russians.

Russia speaks of fascists in Kyiv, yet refuses to let Crimean Tatars commemorate a day of national trauma, a genocide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6549119


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I'd just add, that actions that were planned are were most likely planned as a provocation.

Also "1/2 of all Crimean Tatars died as a result of Soviet policies" is untrue. Here's a graph of Crimean population.
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
Green is Crimean Tatars. Both major declines are after wars - in 18th and 19th centuries. Their population was stable during 20th century.
"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

"Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings"
"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
Quos Iupiter perdere vult, dementat.
"Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker

Thread: I'm Russian – ask me a question. Be it about Russia or a personal one.
Thread: From Rus' to Russia - grand concert on the Red Square, June 12th 2015 - please help with translation!

Remember that future is always proceeded by its shadows.
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Between 1921-1933, up to 1/2 of all Crimean Tatars died as a result of Soviet policies. Then 1944's deportation followed.

Crimean Tatars and Chechens were both forced to leave their homelands down to the last person to far away lands at the hands of Russians.

Crimean Tatars weren't permitted to return to Crimea, mainly from foreign Uzbekistan, until late 1980s - and never received help returning.

After deporting the Crimean Tatars en masse, Stalin resettled Crimea with mostly ethnic Russians.

Crimean Tatars are sadly again facing intimidation in their homeland at the hands of Russians.

Russia speaks of fascists in Kyiv, yet refuses to let Crimean Tatars commemorate a day of national trauma, a genocide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6549119


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I'd just add, that actions that were planned are were most likely planned as a provocation.

Also "1/2 of all Crimean Tatars died as a result of Soviet policies" is untrue. Here's a graph of Crimean population.
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
Green is Crimean Tatars. Both major declines are after wars - in 18th and 19th centuries. Their population was stable during 20th century.
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So what do you think will happen with the Tatars now?
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And just for your FURTHER INFORMATION ON THIS THREAD…


You IDIOTS have been ARGUING with outright SHILLS and trolls on this thread.


If you see people from Germany, or you see ACs without a country flag, CHANCES ARE BASICALLY EXCELLENT that motherfucker is a SHILL.


SO REPORT THEM AS ABUSIVE.


They have registered a couple of accounts just to fuck with you guys and ALSO…


Anyone with a proxy that reads "Ukraine" IS FUCKING WITH YOU HARD.


There are VERY FEW ACTUAL LEGITIMATE POSTERS from UKRAINE.


UNDOUBTEDLY this thread has attracted the attention of some people who ARE on the ground in Ukraine. But the MAJORITY of people who post in this thread from "RUSSIAN FEDERATION" and "UKRAINE" are BASICALLY ALWAYS trolls.


If they're making good and peaceful posts, give them a chance. But any quackery out of these fucks, and HIT THAT REPORT ABUSIVE POST BUTTON!
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


If you see people from Germany, or you see ACs without a country flag, CHANCES ARE BASICALLY EXCELLENT that motherfucker is a SHILL.
hell, we been saying that for the last 1000 pages, but no one will ban those friggin flagless fags
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Ok, so now everyone from Russia or Ukraine are trolls? And what if I really live in Crimea, and I'm really against the Ukraine authorities, and I voted for joining Russia? And I saw the crowds of people doing the same? What proof would be enough for you - may be my real photos? But I think that none would be enough, cause you just don't want to hear another point of view and don't want to believe that people of Crimea wanted to join Russia, and now Donetsk and Lugansk want too!
 Quoting: Zaryana


Well said I must say.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Between 1921-1933, up to 1/2 of all Crimean Tatars died as a result of Soviet policies. Then 1944's deportation followed.

Crimean Tatars and Chechens were both forced to leave their homelands down to the last person to far away lands at the hands of Russians.

Crimean Tatars weren't permitted to return to Crimea, mainly from foreign Uzbekistan, until late 1980s - and never received help returning.

After deporting the Crimean Tatars en masse, Stalin resettled Crimea with mostly ethnic Russians.

Crimean Tatars are sadly again facing intimidation in their homeland at the hands of Russians.

Russia speaks of fascists in Kyiv, yet refuses to let Crimean Tatars commemorate a day of national trauma, a genocide.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6549119


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I'd just add, that actions that were planned are were most likely planned as a provocation.

Also "1/2 of all Crimean Tatars died as a result of Soviet policies" is untrue. Here's a graph of Crimean population.
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
Green is Crimean Tatars. Both major declines are after wars - in 18th and 19th centuries. Their population was stable during 20th century.
 Quoting: Tamonten


Everything that Russians dont agree with is a 'provocation.'

The real provocation there is what your fellow Russian terrorists are doing to them!




Stalin's great purge on the Tatars 1917-1944:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]



complete deportation in 1944:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]





GLP