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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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I'm starting to think more and more this morning ambush was a false flag done by us merceneries. But motive is still unclear.
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US mercenaries.. give me a break. I'm starting to get the impression there are many russian shills reporting on this website.
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Dont have to be Academi. Could be Ukranians but it smells like false flag for sure.
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big time
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KIEV BELIEVES HELICOPTERS USED IN ATTACK ON KIEV FORCES THIS MORNING FLEW IN FROM RUSSIA
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KIEV BELIEVES HELICOPTERS USED IN ATTACK ON KIEV FORCES THIS MORNING FLEW IN FROM RUSSIA
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This means that the recent outrageous kidnapping of the two journos and shelling of civilian houses did not work. Probably Putin knew that a false flag is getting prepared and ordered troops to be removed from the borders of Ukraine. Ukrainian generals confirmed there are no Russian troops in the 10 km border zone. But now Yats blames Russia for a petty and insignificant attack on some Ukrainian checkpoint in a point of no importance, not even in Slavyansk, where major forces are concentrated. Hmmm... something is fishy here, don't ya think so?
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KIEV BELIEVES HELICOPTERS USED IN ATTACK ON KIEV FORCES THIS MORNING FLEW IN FROM RUSSIA
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Well I don't believe that. Come on, they fly their helis over the border? That's an act of war! They'd not be caught making a dangerous move like this and give them reason to paint them further as the Aggressors.
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KIEV BELIEVES HELICOPTERS USED IN ATTACK ON KIEV FORCES THIS MORNING FLEW IN FROM RUSSIA
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This means that the recent outrageous kidnapping of the two journos and shelling of civilian houses did not work. Probably Putin knew that a false flag is getting prepared and ordered troops to be removed from the borders of Ukraine. Ukrainian generals confirmed there are no Russian troops in the 10 km border zone. But now Yats blames Russia for a petty and insignificant attack on some Ukrainian checkpoint in a point of no importance, not even in Slavyansk, where major forces are concentrated. Hmmm... something is fishy here, don't ya think so?
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I don't believe this for a second
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KIEV BELIEVES HELICOPTERS USED IN ATTACK ON KIEV FORCES THIS MORNING FLEW IN FROM RUSSIA
 Quoting: Janey


This means that the recent outrageous kidnapping of the two journos and shelling of civilian houses did not work. Probably Putin knew that a false flag is getting prepared and ordered troops to be removed from the borders of Ukraine. Ukrainian generals confirmed there are no Russian troops in the 10 km border zone. But now Yats blames Russia for a petty and insignificant attack on some Ukrainian checkpoint in a point of no importance, not even in Slavyansk, where major forces are concentrated. Hmmm... something is fishy here, don't ya think so?
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This!
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 Quoting: Iskander 3910366


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47806266


Calm down, eh? :)

I am not saying ALL western citizens are sheep, but most are in MY humble opinion. If you somehow feel offended by that statement it must be because you reside behind the proverbial sheep enclosure.

And no, I would not mind living in Russia or China - I've lived in totalitarian countries before and just like any other country there are certain do's and dont's. You think I can freely say what I want here in Sweden? Don't make me laugh, please.

I'm not saying you or anyone else should betray their country, aboslutely not! But you need to clean up your own porch before you can hold the moral high ground and preach to the world how to live (not to mention bombing countries you don't agree with). You mention Rumsfeld, Cheney et. al - yes they should all be tried in court. Have they been? No - and that in itself is an insult to all of those who served.

You ask if the actions of the USA somehow entitle Russia to do the same? Well, if we are all equals (nations, peoples) then we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with. America and it's allies have acted like the masters of the universe in the last 15 years bombing countries that hadn't bombed anyone else, redrawing borders and generally creating chaos.

What we are seeing now is the entirely natural consequences of this insance foreign policy. Every action has a reaction and morals haven't got a damn thing to do with it.

I too fear that a small miscalculation could set off a whole chain of events, but I'd like to think the 5-star generals holding the nuke keys are a little smarter than the rest of us.
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Same in Germany.

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DL - got your message, but I get a warning saying I need to be upgraded to reply...
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Louis you have infinite karma, at least you can keep Janey upgraded for some time I think. We all know that there's bans on GLP and she might get banned soon. Soo someone give her an upgrade!!!
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I took care of it
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DL - got your message, but I get a warning saying I need to be upgraded to reply...
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Janey, I hooked up someone else first, but I'll grab my wallet from my car and upgrade you shortly. I'd pay an extra subscription just to get your intel! Also I could use good karma in real life!
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oh no, please don't spend money on my account. That would make me feel really awful that I put someone out of pocket
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Bah

That is what DL is for.
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Can we say it is a full blown civil war now in Ukraine? Or not.
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It something masked as civil war. For pro Russians it's a defensive war against roten West and a NATO masked as a civil war and for pro Ukrainians it's a Russian agressian masked as a civil war. I tend to believe pro-Ukrainians more.
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Ukrainian brigade commander: The attackers were paid. The representative of the commander of troops which was attacked in the Blagodatnoye village, is sure that they were attacked by mercenaries.

According to one of the commanders of the commanders of the 51th Brigade of the Ukrainian armed forces, armed men arrived on May 22 by several vehicles and opened fire without warning. As a result of this attack 15 Ukrainian soldiers were killed. At least 35 people are wounded.
– They were trained mercenaries, they fired professionally – the commander of the attacked 51st crew tells. – We opened fire in reply. One their car burned. As a result they shot down three infantry fighting vehicles and two ambulance cars, UAZ. According to eyewitnesses, the attackers gathered a lot of guys, forced those who could, raise hands for the head.
According to the Ukrainian military, soldiers were caught off guard, but managed to fight back:
- Ours managed to open fire in response. One car was burned. The attackers fired grenade launchers and machine guns. They were well prepared for the attack on the checkpoint. One hundred percent they were paid by someone. I don't know who paid them.
According to local residents, who witnessed the attack, unknown, arrive by "PrivatBank" collector car and two jeeps, opened fire on the Ukrainian military, who previously refused to fire on civilians.
- Residents of Blagodatnoye stood up to defend their homes. Ukrainian soldiers were ordered to suppress resistance. They refused to shoot at people, and eventually they were punished, said a source in the headquarters of self-defense.
According to the interlocutor, it was a punitive operation order by tycoon owner of PrivatBank Igor Kolomoisky - who known for the fact that he financed the protests on the Maidane, and pay remuneration to the fighters of the "Right sector".
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bruce springnote&#8207;@BSpringnote·1 min
Luhansk oblast shuts all schools until further notice
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Now why would Ukrainian brigade commander said that? He didnt said Russian shot at us but Mercs did it. What mercs, paid by who and what was the motive? false flag for sure.
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why would it be a false flag when nothing will be done anyway if it was russia.
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why would it be a false flag when nothing will be done anyway if it was russia.
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UA wanted emergency session in UN today. They might did it and counterfeit evidence to look like Russians were involved. Didnt Yats just stated he got evidence of Russian involvment?
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bump

military transport plane from Belgorod Russia just crossed into Ukraine with no callsign!

[link to www.flightradar24.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

An-74T-200: Military Transport aircraft
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why would it be a false flag when nothing will be done anyway if it was russia.
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UA wanted emergency session in UN today. They might did it and counterfeit evidence to look like Russians were involved. Didnt Yats just stated he got evidence of Russian involvment?
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and nothing will happen even it was the russians

and there pulling troops back
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why would it be a false flag when nothing will be done anyway if it was russia.
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UA wanted emergency session in UN today. They might did it and counterfeit evidence to look like Russians were involved. Didnt Yats just stated he got evidence of Russian involvment?
 Quoting: Matjaz


He has said alot and always cited 'evidence' of Russian involvement, yet we've never seen any evidence presented.

This was another attempt to frame Russia!
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I wonder how many IED sleeper cells are operating in moscow right now?
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KIEV BELIEVES HELICOPTERS USED IN ATTACK ON KIEV FORCES THIS MORNING FLEW IN FROM RUSSIA
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Are they refering to these helis?

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US military failed to recapture seized nuclear weapon in test attack – internal review [link to on.rt.com]
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Why would RT be reporting this?
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Pro Kiev militia attack on UKr checkpoint.
Sorry yats, but you are full of shit.
Find out which group of little black men has access to birds.
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Kiev announces all out offensive on all pro-russian post to commence at 1:00 am local time
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Kiev announces all out offensive on all pro-russian post to commence at 1:00 am local time
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6 hours to go!

SOURCE?
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Kiev announces all out offensive on all pro-russian post to commence at 1:00 am local time
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Are they really dumb enough to announce at what time they'll attack?
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ConflictReporter&#8207;@MiddleEast_BRK·3 mins
#Toll_Update The Pro-Ukrainian 'Donetsk Regional State Administration' said 16 soldiers were killed and 32 injured this morning.
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Kiev announces all out offensive on all pro-russian post to commence at 1:00 am local time
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damn! I have to check in early tonight.
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Euromaidan PR &#8207;@EuromaidanPR · 20m
Suspected Car Bomb Explodes in #Simferopol, #Crimea explodes in Tatar community [link to www.themoscowtimes.com] … |EMPR News [link to pic.twitter.com]

so when do things start going to hell in Crimea well we get

more car-truck bombings ?
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Going to be away at Silverstone Fri-Mon.

Talk about inconvenient. :(
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