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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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In Ukraine, there is no military gain by the Kiev forces, just relentless killing of civilian population.
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Every death or disability of an insurgent is a military gain.

Obviously, we would all prefer that the insurgents put down their weapons and participate in the national debate peacefully. But even if the original residents had been willing to do that, the newly imported thugs from Chechnya and Moscow clearly will not--their goal is conquest, nothing less.
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hmmm seem to recall an awful lot of foreign mercs fought for your Union against the South, or is that history a lie also?
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You could buy your way out of the Union army for 400 dollars. And the Feds were signing up hungry Irish Immigrants for the Union army as soon as their ship hit the New York dock.
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wow $400 was a fortune back then, Brits were the same using colonized armies..no country is innocent
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BREAKING Strelkova says "jig is up" #Ukraine forces came from the back, supply lines cut, small garrison #Slaviansk #Slavyansk #cdnpoli


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Meanwhile in Lebanon:

@JohnKerry convoy passing under #Hezbollah flags in #Beirut

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BREAKING Strelkova says "jig is up" #Ukraine forces came from the back, supply lines cut, small garrison #Slaviansk #Slavyansk #cdnpoli


NOT GOOD LOOKS LIKE FINAL ASSAULT SOON

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you would admit that info WHY?? real or to lure the enemy into a false sense of security..time will tell
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...

Fuck your first paragraph, let your therapist try to help you with 'your own version of reality' because it is not the same reality all rational people know of. Israeli's did not win that war for several reasons, your worthy of me listing a few, I'm not your tutor. Helz fired over 5000 rockets in mostly civilian areas, which led to a quick political end to Israels campaign. Two, Israeli generals wanted 30,000 ground troops, the PM gave them eight. A lot of the battles in 2006 were face-to-face and hand-to-hand, so your claim that IDF didn't have the balls to fight-is wrong, not true.

So look Marricon, stop trying to argue above your intellectual limits.
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Cry me a river, asshole. I remember the USS Liberty. I studied the Johnathan Pollard Israeli spy ring case, were Pollard directly caused the death of 800+ US intelligence agents and gave away the US nuclear launch codes and protocols. That's why Pollard's traitorous ass is still in prison despite all the high level pleas to get him released. If he was released the US would likely have a mass mutiny in the Intelligence community.

With friends like Israel, the US doesn't need enemies.

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You're a clown, with clown logic. This entire exchange began b/c you challenged my assertions that Israeli's were not qualified to be military advisers to Ukraine. You went on the attack. This is important b/c you are either unwilling or unable address the many, many facts I provided in two rebuttals. Just like your latest comment. You're raving like a madman, a pretender. You seem to have trouble deciding on what information is germane or cogent. You lack coherence. A weak effort part-time.
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It not that Israel are not highly qualified military advisers for the Ukraine. The problem is whether Israel will sell the Ukraine out for advantage or a buck. Since you are apparently new to GLP, the history of Israeli treachery is a much discussed topic around. If you don't like it, feel free to post elsewhere.
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Your invitation for me to go elsewhere has no merit. Israeli double agents as military advisers hired by Kyiv, who in turn sell intel to Russia, whatever, it's your reputation.

I'm very well acquainted with the Mossad and Zionism. Foundation of my knowledge on these matters come in the form of two books, one author. In fact, it is my belief that one cannot fully understand the Mossad and the Zionist agenda until these are read-

"By Way of Deception" 1990
"The Other Side of Deception" 1994
Victor Ostrovsky
It's risky to take a didactic tone when you do not know what others know.
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BREAKING Communications with #Slaviansk #Slavyansk appear down, No cell phone or internet. #Ukraine #cdnpoli

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An all out attack on Slavyansk? hiding
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An all out attack on Slavyansk? hiding
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It seems like its coming, although they've been trying for days, but now they've almost completly encricled it.
If I were in their place I would abandon all of the forward outpost, fall back to the town and let them come in. Then they lose the artillery and air support advantage.
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Assistant of Pushilin killed. GRAPHIC

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Meanwhile in Lebanon:

@JohnKerry convoy passing under #Hezbollah flags in #Beirut

[link to pic.twitter.com]
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The Americans need to do exactly what the French did, circa 1793-1794.
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BREAKING Strelkova says "jig is up" #Ukraine forces came from the back, supply lines cut, small garrison #Slaviansk #Slavyansk #cdnpoli


NOT GOOD LOOKS LIKE FINAL ASSAULT SOON

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you would admit that info WHY?? real or to lure the enemy into a false sense of security..time will tell
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This is a feint. Girkin is way too fucking intelligent. This is Girkin being Machiavelli.
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UNCONFIRMED: Supply routes to Donetsk cut. City sieged.

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#NOVOROSSIYA #BREAKING Most Recent Interview by #Strelkov, Translated – PLZ RT Read: [link to tl.gd]

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An all out attack on Slavyansk? hiding
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It seems like its coming, although they've been trying for days, but now they've almost completly encricled it.
If I were in their place I would abandon all of the forward outpost, fall back to the town and let them come in. Then they lose the artillery and air support advantage.
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Yep! Not to mention it would employ the Chechen Vostok in a style of fighting they excel at, close, dirty, street-to-street.
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An all out attack on Slavyansk? hiding
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It seems like its coming, although they've been trying for days, but now they've almost completly encricled it.
If I were in their place I would abandon all of the forward outpost, fall back to the town and let them come in. Then they lose the artillery and air support advantage.
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so then you are all in one nice tidy spot for an air strike or arty barrage because the area is a warzone and there is no differentiation between civi and combatant
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PLZ RT
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what does that meam?
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Cry me a river, asshole. I remember the USS Liberty. I studied the Johnathan Pollard Israeli spy ring case, were Pollard directly caused the death of 800+ US intelligence agents and gave away the US nuclear launch codes and protocols. That's why Pollard's traitorous ass is still in prison despite all the high level pleas to get him released. If he was released the US would likely have a mass mutiny in the Intelligence community.

With friends like Israel, the US doesn't need enemies.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58933068

You're a clown, with clown logic. This entire exchange began b/c you challenged my assertions that Israeli's were not qualified to be military advisers to Ukraine. You went on the attack. This is important b/c you are either unwilling or unable address the many, many facts I provided in two rebuttals. Just like your latest comment. You're raving like a madman, a pretender. You seem to have trouble deciding on what information is germane or cogent. You lack coherence. A weak effort part-time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13293442


It not that Israel are not highly qualified military advisers for the Ukraine. The problem is whether Israel will sell the Ukraine out for advantage or a buck. Since you are apparently new to GLP, the history of Israeli treachery is a much discussed topic around. If you don't like it, feel free to post elsewhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58933068

Your invitation for me to go elsewhere has no merit. Israeli double agents as military advisers hired by Kyiv, who in turn sell intel to Russia, whatever, it's your reputation.

I'm very well acquainted with the Mossad and Zionism. Foundation of my knowledge on these matters come in the form of two books, one author. In fact, it is my belief that one cannot fully understand the Mossad and the Zionist agenda until these are read-

"By Way of Deception" 1990
"The Other Side of Deception" 1994
Victor Ostrovsky
It's risky to take a didactic tone when you do not know what others know.
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What in your studied opinion is the Mossad and the Zionist agenda?
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Planes in the sky #Slavyansk RT @zexep: #Славянск в небе самолёты .


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hmmm seem to recall an awful lot of foreign mercs fought for your Union against the South, or is that history a lie also?
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No. I don't know where in the world you got that idea. A Google search indicates that only hard-core slavers attempt to make that argument by grossly distorting the definition of the word mercenary.

The South indeed employed paid mercenaries. The Union was certainly helped by immigrant volunteers, but not mercenaries in the usual sense of the word:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This article explains that the Union did offer bounties for enlistment--a longstanding practice--and permitted poor men to take the conscription place of rich ones for a fee (which is the exact opposite of hiring mercenaries):

[link to www.jstor.org]

The truth is that the Union was in desperate need of hard cash (gold and silver). In 1861 the US government for the first time began reluctantly to issue legal-tender paper money, arguably in contradiction to the Constitution:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Thus, the Union did not have the gold to hire foreign mercenaries, even if it had wanted to.
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knock off the bullshit in this thread - quit reporting every fart post you dont like.

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How much do they cost wholesale, with the standard NATO discount?
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How much do they cost wholesale, with the standard NATO discount?
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what are you buying?
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UNCONFIRMED: Ukraine military commander Vladimir Chobotok hit. 3 dead. One report say he arrived alive in Hospital, other saying died there.

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The grounds to declare #Slaviansk #Slavyansk a Man-Made Disaster Zone now exist with no power,water,food,corpses. #Ukraine #UN #cdnpoli

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A last thought, how can the #Ukraine government call itself a democracy and assault its own cities, and therefore people? #cdnpoli

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UNCONFIRMED: Ukraine military commander Vladimir Chobotok hit. 3 dead. One report say he arrived alive in Hospital, other saying died there.

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A comander of Artyomovsk military base
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UNCONFIRMED: Ukraine military commander Vladimir Chobotok hit. 3 dead. One report say he arrived alive in Hospital, other saying died there.

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A comander of Artyomovsk military base
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wounded
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UNCONFIRMED: Ukraine military commander Vladimir Chobotok hit. 3 dead. One report say he arrived alive in Hospital, other saying died there.

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UNCONFIRMED: Ukraine military commander Vladimir Chobotok hit. 3 dead. One report say he arrived alive in Hospital, other saying died there.

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A comander of Artyomovsk military base
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wounded
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a commander of tank brigade
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This is one of the helicopters that absolutely, positively werent downed by the freedom fighters, according to Kiev


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