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‘Over 20 killed’ in bloody Slavyansk battle despite ceasefire [link to on.rt.com]

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Kissinger: One has to ask oneself this question: He spent $60 billion on the Olympics. They had opening and closing ceremonies, trying to show Russia as a normal progressive state. So it isn't possible that he, three days later, would voluntarily start an assault on Ukraine.

[link to globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX

Yes, Kissinger's view is that Putin thinks he's a tsar. Here is Kissinger's opinion, from the article:
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"I think at all times he [Putin] wanted Ukraine in a subordinate position."
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“I think one has to interpret Putin not Hitler-like, as he has been, but as a Russian czar who is trying to achieve the maximum for his country,” Kissinger says. “Usually, those methods are excessive and we are correct in standing up to it."
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An even longer look at history indicates that Putin, just like Stalin and the tsars, thinks of himself as the successor to Genghis Khan's Mongol empire.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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More important to the development of the state of Moscow, however, was its rule by a series of princes who collaborated with the Mongols.
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collaborated to the detriment of Kiev
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Who sanctioned this referendum? No official authority, this referendum was a joke and completely invalid.
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The Putin sluts never have an answer to that one...
 Quoting: Tpotleoz

I'm not sure whom you mean by Putin sluts, certainly not me, but I can answer about the referendums.

The referendums (Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk) were sanctioned and authorised by the various bodies that held them.

Much the same has been true of all referendums since time immemorial.
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RAW: Russian paratroopers hold massive military drill in Chelyabinsk.

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BTW does anybody know when is operation Rapid Trident scheduled for? Something could happen then.
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Who sanctioned this referendum? No official authority, this referendum was a joke and completely invalid.
 Quoting: Skizy

The Putin sluts never have an answer to that one...
 Quoting: Tpotleoz

I'm not sure whom you mean by Putin sluts, certainly not me, but I can answer about the referendums.

The referendums (Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk) were sanctioned and authorised by the various bodies that held them.

Much the same has been true of all referendums since time immemorial.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


A referendum certainly would need to be somehow authorized by the federal government, or else it is unconstitutional and therefor illegal. Also referendums and elections in general usually have neutral observers to limit the risk of fraud.

OSCE declared the Crimea referendum as unconstitutional and did not send observers.
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CrossTalk: Ukrainian Crucible @PLCROSSTALK
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The Russian lies continue. A helicopter was shot down .
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What was the helicopter doing over the battle area?
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Who sanctioned this referendum? No official authority, this referendum was a joke and completely invalid.
 Quoting: Skizy

The Putin sluts never have an answer to that one...
 Quoting: Tpotleoz

I'm not sure whom you mean by Putin sluts, certainly not me, but I can answer about the referendums.

The referendums (Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk) were sanctioned and authorised by the various bodies that held them.

Much the same has been true of all referendums since time immemorial.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


was actually referring to the California analogy. So if mexicans sanction a referendum in California, that is all good? bring it on... i should let them know they have so many supporters from the US on the Ukraine thread @ GLP
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bold added. long but informative regards today:

The conversion of Ukraine and tensions between East and West

In 988 Prince Volodymyr the Great established Christianity in its Byzantine-Slavic rite as the national religion of his country, Kievan-Rus. This happened before the Great Church Schism of 1054 divided Christian East from West. The Kievan Church inherited the traditions of the Byzantine East and was part of the Patriarchate of Constantinople. Yet this Church also remained in full communion with the Latin West and its patriarch, the Pope of Rome.

Though Constantinople and Rome had their disputes, the Kievan hierarchy tried to work for Christian unity. Representatives from Rus participated in the Western Councils of Lyon (1245) and Constance (1418). Isidore, the Metropolitan of Kiev, was himself one of the creators of the Union of Florence (1439).

While the Kievan metropolia was working towards reunion, a new metropolia arose north of Kiev, in Moscow. The Church of Moscow refused to accept the Union of Florence and separated from the ancient metropolia in Kiev, announcing its autocephaly (self-governing status) in 1448. In 1589, with Greek Orthodoxy and Constantinople subject to Turkish domination, the Church of Moscow became a patriarchate.

Union with Rome and East/West divisions in Ukraine

The Kievan Church was challenged by the Protestant Reformation and the renewed Catholicism of that period and was also suffering a serious internal crisis. The Synod decided to pass under the jurisdiction of the see of Rome, re-establishing full communion of the Church in Ukraine with the Successor of Peter in 1595. The traditional Eastern rite of the Kievan Church was preserved and its ethnic, cultural and ecclesial existence was guaranteed, This was confirmed at the Council of Brest in 1596, which is the beginning of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church as an institution.

Some hierarchs and faithful of the Kievan Church, however, insisted on remaining under the jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Constantinople. Torn by internal division, the Central and Eastern sections of Ukraine passed under the control of the ruler of Moscow in 1654. Soon the Orthodox Kievan Metropolia was under the authority of the Moscow Patriarchate (1696). As the Tsarist Empire grew, it repressed the Greek Catholics and forced "conversions" to Russian Orthodoxy (1772, 1795, 1839, 1876). The Pratulin Martyrs died as a result of these repressions.

Orthodox clergy and laity in Ukraine were dissatisfied with the close connections of the Russian Orthodox Church with Russian national interests. "Ukrainophile" movements began and after the Russian Revolution in 1917 a movement began to gain autocephalous status for Ukrainian Orthodoxy. Attempts to proclaim autocephaly in the 1920s and 1940s were, however, repressed by the Soviet powers.

All of Ukraine had been part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth at the time of the Council of Brest, and western Ukraine remained so. The Church played a leading role in preserving the cultural and religious independence of the Ukrainian population there. As the Western Ukrainian lands later passed into Austrian control, the imperial government of the Hapsburgs supported and protected the Greek Catholic hierarchy.

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A referendum certainly would need to be somehow authorized by the federal government, or else it is unconstitutional and therefor illegal. Also referendums and elections in general usually have neutral observers to limit the risk of fraud.
OSCE declared the Crimea referendum as unconstitutional and did not send observers.
 Quoting: Skizy

The OSCE were invited to send observers but having already made up their minds and being prescient they felt it wasn't necessary to actually go there so they could write about what happened from a position of ignorance of the facts.

Certainly in the USA a referendum along the lines of that used in Crimea would be either illegal nor unconstitutional, though it likely would be non-binding.

As a matter of fact exactly such a referendum is likely to take place in California and could result in the creation of the State of Jefferson. See
[link to www.sos.ca.gov]
1648. (13-0063)

Division of California into Six States. Initiative Statutory and Constitutional Amendment.

Summary Date: 02/18/14 | Circulation Deadline: 07/18/14 | Signatures Required: 807,615

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Divides California into six states subject to approval by Congress. Assigns each county to a new state, unless county voters approve reassignment to different new state and second state approves. Establishes commission to settle California's financial affairs after division; upon failure to resolve, each new state would retain assets within its boundaries and would receive proportionate distribution of California's debts based on population. Authorizes counties to refuse to provide State-mandated programs and services absent sufficient State reimbursement. Empowers counties to make and enforce all laws governing local affairs. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: If the federal government approves the proposed creation of six new states, all tax collections and spending by the existing State of California would end, with its assets and liabilities divided among the new states. Decisions by appointed commissioners and elected leaders would determine how taxes, public spending, and other public policies would change for the new states and their local governments. (13-0063.)
 Quoting: State of California

Texas is the only State in the USA that has a right to divide itself into (up to four) States without approval of the Federal government. This an artifact of how Texas became a State in the first place.
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MEXICAN MILITARY CHOPPER CROSSES INTO USA, FIRES AT BORDER AGENTS [link to drudge.tw]

Mexico invades USA!!!

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I take it they were protecting the legitimate rights of ethnic Mexicans. Hint to FSB/RT.com: next target for your psyops

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CrossTalk: Ukrainian Crucible @PLCROSSTALK
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The Russian lies continue. A helicopter was shot down .
 Quoting: Chippey


What was the helicopter doing over the battle area?
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I have no idea what it was doing flying over Ukrainian territory but a ceasefire should mean no shooting by both sides.
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Mexico invades USA!!!

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I take it they were protecting the legitimate rights of ethnic Mexicans. Hint to FSB: next target for your psyops
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They want to claim New Mexico?
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MEXICAN MILITARY CHOPPER CROSSES INTO USA, FIRES AT BORDER AGENTS [link to drudge.tw]

Mexico invades USA!!!

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Looks like they took note of my post.
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So Putin will strap first aid kits to the nose-cone of Iskander missiles. Nice! BHWahahahahaha.
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MEXICAN MILITARY CHOPPER CROSSES INTO USA, FIRES AT BORDER AGENTS [link to drudge.tw]

Mexico invades USA!!!

scaredscaredscaredahhh
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


I take it they were protecting the legitimate rights of ethnic Mexicans. Hint to FSB: next target for your psyops
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


They want to claim New Mexico?
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they want to claim southern california, amongst others.
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A referendum certainly would need to be somehow authorized by the federal government, or else it is unconstitutional and therefor illegal. Also referendums and elections in general usually have neutral observers to limit the risk of fraud.
OSCE declared the Crimea referendum as unconstitutional and did not send observers.
 Quoting: Skizy

The OSCE were invited to send observers but having already made up their minds and being prescient they felt it wasn't necessary to actually go there so they could write about what happened from a position of ignorance of the facts.

Certainly in the USA a referendum along the lines of that used in Crimea would be either illegal nor unconstitutional, though it likely would be non-binding.

As a matter of fact exactly such a referendum is likely to take place in California and could result in the creation of the State of Jefferson. See
[link to www.sos.ca.gov]
1648. (13-0063)

Division of California into Six States. Initiative Statutory and Constitutional Amendment.

Summary Date: 02/18/14 | Circulation Deadline: 07/18/14 | Signatures Required: 807,615

Tim Draper (650) 233-9000

Divides California into six states subject to approval by Congress. Assigns each county to a new state, unless county voters approve reassignment to different new state and second state approves. Establishes commission to settle California's financial affairs after division; upon failure to resolve, each new state would retain assets within its boundaries and would receive proportionate distribution of California's debts based on population. Authorizes counties to refuse to provide State-mandated programs and services absent sufficient State reimbursement. Empowers counties to make and enforce all laws governing local affairs. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local government: If the federal government approves the proposed creation of six new states, all tax collections and spending by the existing State of California would end, with its assets and liabilities divided among the new states. Decisions by appointed commissioners and elected leaders would determine how taxes, public spending, and other public policies would change for the new states and their local governments. (13-0063.)
 Quoting: State of California

Texas is the only State in the USA that has a right to divide itself into (up to four) States without approval of the Federal government. This an artifact of how Texas became a State in the first place.
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The Crimean referendum was illegal and unconstitutional. It was unauthorized by the Ukraine federal government, and did not follow any official protocol or international law.
Also it was not observed by any official international organization, and there were reports that anyone could vote there, there were people from Russia coming to Crimea to vote on the referendum, also people could cast multiple votes. And the result of the referendum was a joke too and completely made up.
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More Russian exercises. I think it is hilarious how Obozo truly has Putin and his minions really believing the Americans will launch a first nuke strike against Russia! Bwhahahaha. That is the only thing that can justify the farce of Russian military exercises.
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Who sanctioned this referendum? No official authority, this referendum was a joke and completely invalid.
 Quoting: Skizy

The Putin sluts never have an answer to that one...
 Quoting: Tpotleoz

I'm not sure whom you mean by Putin sluts, certainly not me, but I can answer about the referendums.

The referendums (Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk) were sanctioned and authorised by the various bodies that held them.

Much the same has been true of all referendums since time immemorial.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


A referendum certainly would need to be somehow authorized by the federal government, or else it is unconstitutional and therefor illegal. Also referendums and elections in general usually have neutral observers to limit the risk of fraud.

OSCE declared the Crimea referendum as unconstitutional and did not send observers.
 Quoting: Skizy



Nope. See there was this thing called Kosovo secession. Serbia was bombed by the West to have Kosovo taken away. There was NO REFERENDUM, there was a declaration of independence by the Kosovo "authorities" (years after the bombing). So, Serbia filed a motion to the International court but the court ruled that the declaration of independence are NOT VIOLATING international law, even if they do violate domestic law.
So there you have it. West opened a can of worms and is now bitching about it.

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The Putin sluts never have an answer to that one...
 Quoting: Tpotleoz

I'm not sure whom you mean by Putin sluts, certainly not me, but I can answer about the referendums.

The referendums (Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk) were sanctioned and authorised by the various bodies that held them.

Much the same has been true of all referendums since time immemorial.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


A referendum certainly would need to be somehow authorized by the federal government, or else it is unconstitutional and therefor illegal. Also referendums and elections in general usually have neutral observers to limit the risk of fraud.

OSCE declared the Crimea referendum as unconstitutional and did not send observers.
 Quoting: Skizy



Nope. See there was this thing called Kosovo secession. Serbia was bombed by the West to have Kosovo taken away. There was NO REFERENDUM, there was a declaration of independence by the Kosovo "authorities" (years after the bombing). So, Serbia filed a motion to the International court but the court ruled that the declaration of independence are NOT VIOLATING international law, even if they do violate domestic law.
So there you have it. West opened a can of worms and is now bitching about it.
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el sur de california?
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There was a rumor that the people of a hole village was exterminated. Do anyone know anything about this?

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There was a rumor that the people of a hole village was exterminated. Do anyone know anything about this?

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by who?
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More Russian exercises. I think it is hilarious how Obozo truly has Putin and his minions really believing the Americans will launch a first nuke strike against Russia! Bwhahahaha. That is the only thing that can justify the farce of Russian military exercises.
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There are Russian military exercises all the time, but nothing ever happens. Russia is just flexing.
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I'm not sure whom you mean by Putin sluts, certainly not me, but I can answer about the referendums.

The referendums (Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk) were sanctioned and authorised by the various bodies that held them.

Much the same has been true of all referendums since time immemorial.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


A referendum certainly would need to be somehow authorized by the federal government, or else it is unconstitutional and therefor illegal. Also referendums and elections in general usually have neutral observers to limit the risk of fraud.

OSCE declared the Crimea referendum as unconstitutional and did not send observers.
 Quoting: Skizy



Nope. See there was this thing called Kosovo secession. Serbia was bombed by the West to have Kosovo taken away. There was NO REFERENDUM, there was a declaration of independence by the Kosovo "authorities" (years after the bombing). So, Serbia filed a motion to the International court but the court ruled that the declaration of independence are NOT VIOLATING international law, even if they do violate domestic law.
So there you have it. West opened a can of worms and is now bitching about it.
 Quoting: Babay


el sur de california?
 Quoting: Tpotleoz

On the California issue, were Obama as thick headed as Putin, Obama would impotently stand on the sideline and wait for California to be balkanised, then scream and cry and kick like a little boy-then invade California. Thankfully, even as Obama is as dumb as he is, he, unlike Putin, will never allow California to be divided. Period.

Follow the Californian break-up movement funding and you'll see it goes from Cali->Mexican drug cartels->south/central american country->Russia->Putin. This is classic Putin. C'mon Vladi your getting too predictable.
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There was a rumor that the people of a hole village was exterminated. Do anyone know anything about this?

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by who?
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National guard. But it's clearly bullshit.
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The Putin sluts never have an answer to that one...
 Quoting: Tpotleoz

I'm not sure whom you mean by Putin sluts, certainly not me, but I can answer about the referendums.

The referendums (Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk) were sanctioned and authorised by the various bodies that held them.

Much the same has been true of all referendums since time immemorial.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


A referendum certainly would need to be somehow authorized by the federal government, or else it is unconstitutional and therefor illegal. Also referendums and elections in general usually have neutral observers to limit the risk of fraud.

OSCE declared the Crimea referendum as unconstitutional and did not send observers.
 Quoting: Skizy



Nope. See there was this thing called Kosovo secession. Serbia was bombed by the West to have Kosovo taken away. There was NO REFERENDUM, there was a declaration of independence by the Kosovo "authorities" (years after the bombing). So, Serbia filed a motion to the International court but the court ruled that the declaration of independence are NOT VIOLATING international law, even if they do violate domestic law.
So there you have it. West opened a can of worms and is now bitching about it.
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agree bro , Kosovo is a Serbian Region
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I'm not sure whom you mean by Putin sluts, certainly not me, but I can answer about the referendums.

The referendums (Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk) were sanctioned and authorised by the various bodies that held them.

Much the same has been true of all referendums since time immemorial.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


A referendum certainly would need to be somehow authorized by the federal government, or else it is unconstitutional and therefor illegal. Also referendums and elections in general usually have neutral observers to limit the risk of fraud.

OSCE declared the Crimea referendum as unconstitutional and did not send observers.
 Quoting: Skizy



Nope. See there was this thing called Kosovo secession. Serbia was bombed by the West to have Kosovo taken away. There was NO REFERENDUM, there was a declaration of independence by the Kosovo "authorities" (years after the bombing). So, Serbia filed a motion to the International court but the court ruled that the declaration of independence are NOT VIOLATING international law, even if they do violate domestic law.
So there you have it. West opened a can of worms and is now bitching about it.
 Quoting: Babay

agree bro , Kosovo is a Serbian Region
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59693183


Even if it is, it is completely irrelevant and does not justify anything.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
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MEXICAN MILITARY CHOPPER CROSSES INTO USA, FIRES AT BORDER AGENTS [link to drudge.tw]

Mexico invades USA!!!

scaredscaredscaredahhh
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


I take it they were protecting the legitimate rights of ethnic Mexicans. Hint to FSB: next target for your psyops
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


They want to claim New Mexico?
 Quoting: Chippey


they want to claim southern california, amongst others.
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


Wasn't Australia named New Holland at one time? :)


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