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UKRAINE: BREAKING: Moscow threatens to recognise independence of Transnistria!!!p6284

 
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#Ukraine Artillery salvo fire in #Kramatorsk area. #Donetsk #Lugansk
It Is All Bull Shit I Tell You...

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Dear MoD of #Ukraine these are all the tanks you have let in. NO, there's no way 3 tanks only. Now go & make them go!
It Is All Bull Shit I Tell You...

The New Leaders that lead us from SLAVERY to FREEDOM, Just end up becoming our NEW SLAVE MASTERS.

"STFU you brain dead fucker"-Desert Fox-MOD.

Psalm's 23 and 91 infuse it into your Body, Mind, and Spirit.
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Update on military base #Donetsk: Vostok guys standing outside said negotiations were ongoing, servicemen inside don't want to surrender
Anti-Maidan not pro Russia.
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Superior?! WTF are you smoking? UA has air support..well whats left of it chuckle Freedom fighters are fighting with WW2 AT guns and armoury that was pulled out of scrap yard. They dont have APC's they didnt had tanks. Now after "ceasefire" odds are a bit even but UA army still got upperhand over sepreatist. In numbers and equipment.
 Quoting: Matjaz

Overwhelmingly, superior in equipment. Numbers may be about equal. But the rebels have a will to fight and their enemy has no wish to fight, not if it means exposing themselves to even slight danger.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


They say 20.000 seperatists thats huge but in Slavyansk ratio is 14:1 in favor for Ukranians.
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Kiev may soon face 20.000-30.000 Novorussian soldiers under a unified command.
"The Oceans Will Rise; Nuclear Winter Will Be Upon Us; And The World As We Know It Will End"

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@johnwendle: Assault underway again at base in #Donetsk. Some say base for prison guards and is a raid on the arsenal. Heavy shooting and explosions.
And it never failed that during the dry years the people forgot about the rich years, and during the wet years they lost all memory of the dry years. It was always that way.

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Superior?! WTF are you smoking? UA has air support..well whats left of it chuckle Freedom fighters are fighting with WW2 AT guns and armoury that was pulled out of scrap yard. They dont have APC's they didnt had tanks. Now after "ceasefire" odds are a bit even but UA army still got upperhand over sepreatist. In numbers and equipment.
 Quoting: Matjaz

Overwhelmingly, superior in equipment. Numbers may be about equal. But the rebels have a will to fight and their enemy has no wish to fight, not if it means exposing themselves to even slight danger.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


They say 20.000 seperatists thats huge but in Slavyansk ratio is 14:1 in favor for Ukranians.
 Quoting: Matjaz


yeah and 800/1000 ISIS Routed 4 division of IRAQI solders

so I think the separatists are at least 2-1 to beat them.

what do the Ukrainian , IRAQ , and French Armies have in

Common. A White Flag is basic Military Issued equipment.

Last Edited by Zombie Daddy in a Box on 06/26/2014 02:22 PM
It Is All Bull Shit I Tell You...

The New Leaders that lead us from SLAVERY to FREEDOM, Just end up becoming our NEW SLAVE MASTERS.

"STFU you brain dead fucker"-Desert Fox-MOD.

Psalm's 23 and 91 infuse it into your Body, Mind, and Spirit.
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Didn't German soldiers lay down their weapons after WWII and surrender to the Allies? How did that work out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58487295

As I remember my history, most of the active duty Nazi soldiers fought to their death and were killed.
In and around Berlin at the very least.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


Another 1 or 2 million of those that surrendered were placed in a fenced open air area and allowed to starve to death. They lived in their own filth and disease until they died. It was punishable by death for other Germans to give them food. People of other countries , like Iraq, think that the US is like John Wayne and fair and honest. They have an image that they received while watching hollywood movies

In other words, giving up their weapons is a sure death warrant for themselves. I think this is a fight to the death of one side or the other, or possibly establish a DMZ. There won't be a happy united Ukraine after this is over.
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Contradictory statements about who's in Donetsk base: Interior ministry troops, nat'l guard, prison guards, Right Sector (kuda bez etogo?)
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Dear MoD of #Ukraine these are all the tanks you have let in. NO, there's no way 3 tanks only. Now go & make them go!
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PATHETIC WITH NAZIS WHO NEITHER CAN SPEAK ENGLISH NOR SPELL.
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RT @RT_com · 29 seg

Meet 'Nipsters': Newest recruits of extreme right in Germany
 Quoting: Luisport


This is blatant propaganda.
 Quoting: Skizzy


You're a blatant shill
 Quoting: Babay


And who exactly am I "shilling" for? I am not pro-western governments.
 Quoting: Skizzy

Let me translate Babai v.1.3. 'Blatant shill' really means - "I have no true insight or elucidation on your posted remarks, or I'm too lazy to do any credible fact checking, but I am being paid, so I've got to do something."
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Poroshenk 'logical solution' a final solution?
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Yeah, he will kill himself finally...
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Superior?! WTF are you smoking? UA has air support..well whats left of it chuckle Freedom fighters are fighting with WW2 AT guns and armoury that was pulled out of scrap yard. They dont have APC's they didnt had tanks. Now after "ceasefire" odds are a bit even but UA army still got upperhand over sepreatist. In numbers and equipment.
 Quoting: Matjaz

Overwhelmingly, superior in equipment. Numbers may be about equal. But the rebels have a will to fight and their enemy has no wish to fight, not if it means exposing themselves to even slight danger.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


They say 20.000 seperatists thats huge but in Slavyansk ratio is 14:1 in favor for Ukranians.
 Quoting: Matjaz


yeah and 800/1000 ISIS Routed 4 division of IRAQI solders

so I think the separatists are at least 2-1 to beat them.

what do the Ukrainian , IRAQ , and French Armies have in

Common. A White Flag is basic Military Issued equipment.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


No need for ISIS scum to come and help. If I were them I would avoid that nasty shit from the desert.

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Superior?! WTF are you smoking? UA has air support..well whats left of it chuckle Freedom fighters are fighting with WW2 AT guns and armoury that was pulled out of scrap yard. They dont have APC's they didnt had tanks. Now after "ceasefire" odds are a bit even but UA army still got upperhand over sepreatist. In numbers and equipment.
 Quoting: Matjaz

Overwhelmingly, superior in equipment. Numbers may be about equal. But the rebels have a will to fight and their enemy has no wish to fight, not if it means exposing themselves to even slight danger.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


They say 20.000 seperatists thats huge but in Slavyansk ratio is 14:1 in favor for Ukranians.
 Quoting: Matjaz


well that was a long time ago before the reinforcement of highly motivated angry anti Nazi forces.
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Bumping this false flag warning
[link to rense.com]

It should be today or tomorrow.
Will it happen?
 Quoting: Falter


That sounds just horrible...
 Quoting: Lyonesse


NATO sending in the Eurotrash version of ISIS...

Hungary playing role of Turkey? Or Lebanon?
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This is blatant propaganda.
 Quoting: Skizzy


You're a blatant shill
 Quoting: Babay


And who exactly am I "shilling" for? I am not pro-western governments.
 Quoting: Skizzy

Let me translate Babai v.1.3. 'Blatant shill' really means - "I have no true insight or elucidation on your posted remarks, or I'm too lazy to do any credible fact checking, but I am being paid, so I've got to do something."
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Hey fella, dont anger the moderatin kitten. hiding
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Didn't German soldiers lay down their weapons after WWII and surrender to the Allies? How did that work out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58487295

As I remember my history, most of the active duty Nazi soldiers fought to their death and were killed.
In and around Berlin at the very least.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


Another 1 or 2 million of those that surrendered were placed in a fenced open air area and allowed to starve to death. They lived in their own filth and disease until they died. It was punishable by death for other Germans to give them food. People of other countries , like Iraq, think that the US is like John Wayne and fair and honest. They have an image that they received while watching hollywood movies

In other words, giving up their weapons is a sure death warrant for themselves. I think this is a fight to the death of one side or the other, or possibly establish a DMZ. There won't be a happy united Ukraine after this is over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58487295


I think you may be right about a DMZ... However I think it will end up being several hundred miles west of where you think it... Like along the English channel.
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Here we have the massive amount of funding that Putin gives his favorite propaganda machine/Putin's Personal Public Relations Squad - RT

2011 - 380 million USD
2012 - 300 million USD
2013 - 300 million USD

The Russia Times is paid very, very well for spreading lies, global mistruths and chronic obfuscations. In fact, it is fair to say:

RT = PPB Putin's Propaganda Brigade.

Marcin Maczka, 'The Propaganda Machine,' New Eastern Europe website

Lenizadt estimates the 2012 Russian Federal Budget at 11 billion rubles to RT's parent company ANO TV-Novosti. Darya Fazletdinova, Anatomy of Non-Resistance, Lenizdat, July 2, 2012, accessed September 28, 2012.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59665892


I have access to CNN, BBC, Sky News, Euronews, TVFrance in both English and French, Al Jazeera, approximately 30 German TV channells, at least 20 Italian except others, but I can say all of them mentioned are much more biased than RT. I can compare many sources and I can tell often you are fed poison instead of information. I lived more than 30 years in communism at the border with Austria and you can bet I know to sift the information...
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Not really on topic of Ukraine, but generally about the whole "Russia is the bad guy" situation.



"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling
The Great Game - Russian-British confrontation in Central Asia - or at least it was said so. This was a Cold War of the 19th century. Actually, this is one and the same Cold Game, built on the same historical logic and mythology. Modern western anti-Russian media rhetoric is rather primitive plagiarism of British newspapers of century and a half ago. Do not be afraid of the Cold War, I mean - Great Game - because only when everyone is dead, the Great Game is finished. And we are still alive.
- Mikhail Leontyev, "The Great Game: British Empire vs. Russia and USSR" (2007)

I heartily recommend this series of programs to those who understand Russian. I've failed to find translation to English.

Last Edited by Tamonten on 06/26/2014 02:51 PM
"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Mikhail Leontyev, "The Great Game: British Empire vs. Russia and USSR" (2007)

"Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings"
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And the LOGIC SOLUTION is..........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59643651


...probably going full retard... erm medieval in Eastern Ukraine.
 Quoting: N.O.S. (nli) 59664358

Tell me, how exactly do you define 'full retard' when a sovereign nation is fighting, on their own lands, an invasion force that is superior in every known way?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59665892


Superior?! WTF are you smoking? UA has air support..well whats left of it chuckle Freedom fighters are fighting with WW2 AT guns and armoury that was pulled out of scrap yard. They dont have APC's they didnt had tanks. Now after "ceasefire" odds are a bit even but UA army still got upperhand over sepreatist. In numbers and equipment.
 Quoting: Matjaz

Please Russian is rpoviding encrypted two-way radio communication to the terrorists. Russia is providing intel to the terrorists. Ukrainian military and SBU have double agents who are really working for Putin. Look at Ukrainian casualty % per engagement. It has massively spiked, I believe better, more advanced weaponry from Russia explain this-probably Russian soldiers also training terrorists. time for you to watch more Anze Kopitar videos.
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Wow...
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Oh, this is good! Watch Putin speak abour East-West diffrences

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... Russia is providing intel to the terrorists. Ukrainian military and SBU have double agents who are really working for Putin. Look at Ukrainian casualty % per engagement. It has massively spiked, ...
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I agree this is a huge factor.

Many of the highest ranking officers on the Kiev side are secretly sympathetic with the rebels. So that every move they make is known to the rebels in advance and in detail.

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Superior?! WTF are you smoking? UA has air support..well whats left of it chuckle Freedom fighters are fighting with WW2 AT guns and armoury that was pulled out of scrap yard. They dont have APC's they didnt had tanks. Now after "ceasefire" odds are a bit even but UA army still got upperhand over sepreatist. In numbers and equipment.
 Quoting: Matjaz

Overwhelmingly, superior in equipment. Numbers may be about equal. But the rebels have a will to fight and their enemy has no wish to fight, not if it means exposing themselves to even slight danger.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

Tell me how you arrived at the opinion that terrorists have more of a will to fight than the Ukrainians defending an invasion of their homeland.

Besides, history proves those defending their lands have more much resolve.
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...probably going full retard... erm medieval in Eastern Ukraine.
 Quoting: N.O.S. (nli) 59664358

Tell me, how exactly do you define 'full retard' when a sovereign nation is fighting, on their own lands, an invasion force that is superior in every known way?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59665892


Superior?! WTF are you smoking? UA has air support..well whats left of it chuckle Freedom fighters are fighting with WW2 AT guns and armoury that was pulled out of scrap yard. They dont have APC's they didnt had tanks. Now after "ceasefire" odds are a bit even but UA army still got upperhand over sepreatist. In numbers and equipment.
 Quoting: Matjaz

Please Russian is rpoviding encrypted two-way radio communication to the terrorists. Russia is providing intel to the terrorists. Ukrainian military and SBU have double agents who are really working for Putin. Look at Ukrainian casualty % per engagement. It has massively spiked, I believe better, more advanced weaponry from Russia explain this-probably Russian soldiers also training terrorists. time for you to watch more Anze Kopitar videos.
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Terrorists??? such a DHS phrase.....so would the 'French' resistance for example now be classified as Terrorists?
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Superior?! WTF are you smoking? UA has air support..well whats left of it chuckle Freedom fighters are fighting with WW2 AT guns and armoury that was pulled out of scrap yard. They dont have APC's they didnt had tanks. Now after "ceasefire" odds are a bit even but UA army still got upperhand over sepreatist. In numbers and equipment.
 Quoting: Matjaz

Overwhelmingly, superior in equipment. Numbers may be about equal. But the rebels have a will to fight and their enemy has no wish to fight, not if it means exposing themselves to even slight danger.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

Tell me how you arrived at the opinion that terrorists have more of a will to fight than the Ukrainians defending an invasion of their homeland.

Besides, history proves those defending their lands have more much resolve.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59665892


Oh, I dont know...thats the impression by most, btw...maybe cause of thousands of defections to Russian side?
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Superior?! WTF are you smoking? UA has air support..well whats left of it chuckle Freedom fighters are fighting with WW2 AT guns and armoury that was pulled out of scrap yard. They dont have APC's they didnt had tanks. Now after "ceasefire" odds are a bit even but UA army still got upperhand over sepreatist. In numbers and equipment.
 Quoting: Matjaz

Overwhelmingly, superior in equipment. Numbers may be about equal. But the rebels have a will to fight and their enemy has no wish to fight, not if it means exposing themselves to even slight danger.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


They say 20.000 seperatists thats huge but in Slavyansk ratio is 14:1 in favor for Ukranians.
 Quoting: Matjaz


yeah and 800/1000 ISIS Routed 4 division of IRAQI solders

so I think the separatists are at least 2-1 to beat them.

what do the Ukrainian , IRAQ , and French Armies have in

Common. A White Flag is basic Military Issued equipment.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


The CIA paid off the Iraqi officers to stand down and told their soldiers to run away. Same plan as Libya.

BRIBERY VERY POWERFUL WHEN DONE AT THE TOP!

It's when the USA starts demanding blow jobs to fight the holdouts that leaves a bad taste in the mouth when the bribe money stops...

Just ask the Polish Foreign Minister.
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Heavy fighting at nat. guard base 3004 in #Donetsk tonight [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …
It Is All Bull Shit I Tell You...

The New Leaders that lead us from SLAVERY to FREEDOM, Just end up becoming our NEW SLAVE MASTERS.

"STFU you brain dead fucker"-Desert Fox-MOD.

Psalm's 23 and 91 infuse it into your Body, Mind, and Spirit.

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