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UKRAINE MINISTRY SAYS IT WILL NOT ALLOW PASSAGE FOR RUSSIAN AID CONVOY
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Why should they? It's a Trojan horse and they know it.
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Yes, Specnaz squad in every single package of biscuits expected.

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Trojan horse idea is total BS. Kiev can inspect but that is not what they want. Kiev cannot allow Russia to do anything good for propaganda reasons since Russia must always be the devil. Also, the purpose of the ATO is actually terrorism and any stability of the situation for civilians coupled with observers who make future crimes impossible without exposure destroys the ATO and will force a settlement. Kiev cannot crush the rebellion with legal means and they know it. This is a pivotal point in the crisis.
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Bandera is rebelling. Donbass batallion is goint to pay a visit to Porky.
They r coming with their banners to stand in front of administration building in Kiev, said Sergey Semenchenko in his facebook.

Donbass is pissed of by so called ceasfire.
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It is gonna happen eventually. We havent seen nothing yet. Once Ukranian radicals realize they've been used as cannon fodder, Ukranians are gonna have their own litlle internal conflict that could toplle "porky". Then what, well then the west is gonna have to deal with real nazi government. Government that will hate USA as much as Russia. How ironic, the monster they created turning against them.

And as weird as it sounds, the Ukranian radicals are the only ones who actually want independent UA. They absolutly despise EU and I think they finally got a clue, that they will be disgarded once not needed anymore.


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Almost every revolution in history has been followed up with a secondary one (or more). Examples of a revolution tossing a government that resulted in a long lasting new government are few. Most of those new governments get tossed as well, and relatively quickly, 18-36 months. Look at Libya, that government is really struggling. Egypt? Morsi tossed. Iraq, as 18-36 months after we left, ISIS.

The US government knows this. It is in the interest of the USA to have Ukraine a mess. And based on history the USA knows that Ukraine's new government has the slimmest chances of remaining the one in power. This is beneficial to the aims of the USA. The USA has goals and so does Russia. Picking a side in this is rather silly. Calling one side a terrorist or Nazi is rather ignorant too.

As an American I should be happy my government is creating situations in the world that improve my quality of life. I would think a Russian would want the same things from their government. Thinking otherwise is naive. And simply because a Russian stands up and says, hey I support Russia, don't make them any more or less a person doing the same for the USA. The hatred between us is artificial taught behavior. The use of media and propaganda on both sides teaches the masses the hate we've all come to experience. Most people in their natural state do not look for conflict on the individual level. It's only when we get into mob mentality with someone leading us that we believe this or that about the "enemy". We're all people, brothers and sisters, black, white, yellow, red, and brown. It's only when governments and media exploits those differences for their own agendas that the masses get up in arms about it.

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Bandera is rebelling. Donbass batallion is goint to pay a visit to Porky.
They r coming with their banners to stand in front of administration building in Kiev, said Sergey Semenchenko in his facebook.

Donbass is pissed of by so called ceasfire.
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It is gonna happen eventually. We havent seen nothing yet. Once Ukranian radicals realize they've been used as cannon fodder, Ukranians are gonna have their own litlle internal conflict that could toplle "porky". Then what, well then the west is gonna have to deal with real nazi government. Government that will hate USA as much as Russia. How ironic, the monster they created turning against them.

And as weird as it sounds, the Ukranian radicals are the only ones who actually want independent UA. They absolutly despise EU and I think they finally got a clue, that they will be disgarded once not needed anymore.


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Almost every revolution in history has been followed up with a secondary one (or more). Examples of a revolution tossing a government that resulted in a long lasting new government are few. Most of those new governments get tossed as well, and relatively quickly, 18-36 months. Look at Libya, that government is really struggling. Egypt? Morsi tossed. Iraq, as 18-36 months after we left, ISIS.

The US government knows this. It is in the interest of the USA to have Ukraine a mess. And based on history the USA knows that Ukraine's new government has the slimmest chances of remaining the one in power. This is beneficial to the aims of the USA. The USA has goals and so does Russia. Picking a side in this is rather silly. Calling one side a terrorist or Nazi is rather ignorant too.

As an American I should be happy my government is creating situations in the world that improve my quality of life. I would think a Russian would want the same things from their government. Thinking otherwise is naive. And simply because a Russian stands up and says, hey I support Russia, don't make them any more or less a person doing the same for the USA. The hatred between us is artificial taught behavior. The use of media and propaganda on both sides teaches the masses the hate we've all come to experience. Most people in their natural state do not look for conflict on the individual level. It's only when we get into mob mentality with someone leading us that we believe this or that about the "enemy". We're all people, brothers and sisters, black, white, yellow, red, and brown. It's only when governments and media exploits those differences for their own agendas that the masses get up in arms about it.
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The Moskal invaders cannot be permitted to perpetuate an invasion of the sovereign state of Ukraine. Did Putler allow NATO or the Americans to bring humanitarian aid to disaffected in the Chechen or Georgian wars? Hell no.

So Ukraine should allow 'humanitarian' aid from the Moskals, delivered by the enemy (Russia), to the people helping whose death and suffering began as a direct result of Putin's invasion of Donetsk and Luhansk. Did Stalin allow Hitler to deliver 'aid' deep into Russian lands?
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Bandera is rebelling. Donbass batallion is goint to pay a visit to Porky.
They r coming with their banners to stand in front of administration building in Kiev, said Sergey Semenchenko in his facebook.

Donbass is pissed of by so called ceasfire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58761596


It is gonna happen eventually. We havent seen nothing yet. Once Ukranian radicals realize they've been used as cannon fodder, Ukranians are gonna have their own litlle internal conflict that could toplle "porky". Then what, well then the west is gonna have to deal with real nazi government. Government that will hate USA as much as Russia. How ironic, the monster they created turning against them.

And as weird as it sounds, the Ukranian radicals are the only ones who actually want independent UA. They absolutly despise EU and I think they finally got a clue, that they will be disgarded once not needed anymore.


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Almost every revolution in history has been followed up with a secondary one (or more). Examples of a revolution tossing a government that resulted in a long lasting new government are few. Most of those new governments get tossed as well, and relatively quickly, 18-36 months. Look at Libya, that government is really struggling. Egypt? Morsi tossed. Iraq, as 18-36 months after we left, ISIS.

The US government knows this. It is in the interest of the USA to have Ukraine a mess. And based on history the USA knows that Ukraine's new government has the slimmest chances of remaining the one in power. This is beneficial to the aims of the USA. The USA has goals and so does Russia. Picking a side in this is rather silly. Calling one side a terrorist or Nazi is rather ignorant too.

As an American I should be happy my government is creating situations in the world that improve my quality of life. I would think a Russian would want the same things from their government. Thinking otherwise is naive. And simply because a Russian stands up and says, hey I support Russia, don't make them any more or less a person doing the same for the USA. The hatred between us is artificial taught behavior. The use of media and propaganda on both sides teaches the masses the hate we've all come to experience. Most people in their natural state do not look for conflict on the individual level. It's only when we get into mob mentality with someone leading us that we believe this or that about the "enemy". We're all people, brothers and sisters, black, white, yellow, red, and brown. It's only when governments and media exploits those differences for their own agendas that the masses get up in arms about it.
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We had only one revolution in 1989. But I think there wasnt another one because it was not real revolution. We were sold (with the rest of the Eastern bloc) to global corporations by Kremlin Judas Gorbatschow who was pimped by western looters.
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The Moskal invaders cannot be permitted to perpetuate an invasion of the sovereign state of Ukraine. Did Putler allow NATO or the Americans to bring humanitarian aid to disaffected in the Chechen or Georgian wars? Hell no.

So Ukraine should allow 'humanitarian' aid from the Moskals, delivered by the enemy (Russia), to the people helping whose death and suffering began as a direct result of Putin's invasion of Donetsk and Luhansk. Did Stalin allow Hitler to deliver 'aid' deep into Russian lands?
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Apparently Poroshenko said in a interview to Le Figaro that Donbas CAN'T be retaken !
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Can Putin’s Diplomacy Prevail Over Washington’s Coercion? — Paul Craig Roberts

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Bandera is rebelling. Donbass batallion is goint to pay a visit to Porky.
They r coming with their banners to stand in front of administration building in Kiev, said Sergey Semenchenko in his facebook.

Donbass is pissed of by so called ceasfire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58761596


It is gonna happen eventually. We havent seen nothing yet. Once Ukranian radicals realize they've been used as cannon fodder, Ukranians are gonna have their own litlle internal conflict that could toplle "porky". Then what, well then the west is gonna have to deal with real nazi government. Government that will hate USA as much as Russia. How ironic, the monster they created turning against them.

And as weird as it sounds, the Ukranian radicals are the only ones who actually want independent UA. They absolutly despise EU and I think they finally got a clue, that they will be disgarded once not needed anymore.


 Quoting: Matjaz


Almost every revolution in history has been followed up with a secondary one (or more). Examples of a revolution tossing a government that resulted in a long lasting new government are few. Most of those new governments get tossed as well, and relatively quickly, 18-36 months. Look at Libya, that government is really struggling. Egypt? Morsi tossed. Iraq, as 18-36 months after we left, ISIS.

The US government knows this. It is in the interest of the USA to have Ukraine a mess. And based on history the USA knows that Ukraine's new government has the slimmest chances of remaining the one in power. This is beneficial to the aims of the USA. The USA has goals and so does Russia. Picking a side in this is rather silly. Calling one side a terrorist or Nazi is rather ignorant too.

As an American I should be happy my government is creating situations in the world that improve my quality of life. I would think a Russian would want the same things from their government. Thinking otherwise is naive. And simply because a Russian stands up and says, hey I support Russia, don't make them any more or less a person doing the same for the USA. The hatred between us is artificial taught behavior. The use of media and propaganda on both sides teaches the masses the hate we've all come to experience. Most people in their natural state do not look for conflict on the individual level. It's only when we get into mob mentality with someone leading us that we believe this or that about the "enemy". We're all people, brothers and sisters, black, white, yellow, red, and brown. It's only when governments and media exploits those differences for their own agendas that the masses get up in arms about it.
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This is interesting. I don't agree with it but it is interesting.
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06/27/2014, Ukrainian armored vehicles patrolling the border


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Russian invaders take "explosive plant" / army base in #Donetsk. Ukr. (young) soldiers go home without a fight.
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#Result_of_Poroshenkos_weakness:
Up to 100 Ukr. army conscripts are being talked into joining the invaders. #Ukraine

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The U.N. Says 257 civilians Have Been Killed in East Ukraine but Refuses to Condemn the Ongoing Bombardment

The ongoing airstrikes in east Ukraine are killing mostly civilians, but the U.N. still refuses to even assign the blame where it belongs, much less condemn the perpetrators

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The Moskal invaders cannot be permitted to perpetuate an invasion of the sovereign state of Ukraine. Did Putler allow NATO or the Americans to bring humanitarian aid to disaffected in the Chechen or Georgian wars? Hell no.

So Ukraine should allow 'humanitarian' aid from the Moskals, delivered by the enemy (Russia), to the people helping whose death and suffering began as a direct result of Putin's invasion of Donetsk and Luhansk. Did Stalin allow Hitler to deliver 'aid' deep into Russian lands?
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I don't remember any western attempts at humanitarian aid to Chechnya or Georgia. Refresh my memory with a link. Ukraine is scared to death that its civilians will be safe and it will be forced to use legal means to reclaim control of the regions in rebellion. If you want to use moral equivalency arguments Russia would be justified in invading regardless of international law. Is that really where you want to go?

This could be worked out if Kiev wanted to work it out. This is not the first conflict where issues like this have arisen.
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Rockets from Ukraine were again on the territory of Russia, this time two ammunition exploded in the settlements and Gukovo Vaseckiy (Rostov region), media reported, citing sources in law enforcement bodies of the Russian Federation on Saturday afternoon . The incident resulted in no injuries.

Previously, the first shell hit the fence of one of the houses on the street in Gukovo Smirnov, the second - on the territory of the farm Vaseckiy.

According to law enforcement, fire lasted about two hours, from 08-00 to 10-00 in Moscow.

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Can Putin’s Diplomacy Prevail Over Washington’s Coercion? — Paul Craig Roberts

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Excellent article. Worth the read...
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Italian fighting for Ukraine:

'one of the 250 men enrolled in the battalion Azov. A training military deployed on the front line in eastern Ukraine, which is becoming an "international Legion" with the arrival of Swedish, French, English and Croatian. "We're not mercenaries, but volunteers with no money to pay," says the man in Panorama "fighting for a good fight."

A past in the far right Italian, Francesco F. did the manager and two years ago had landed in Kiev to sell commodities. Then he decided to take action last January, when the Ukrainian capital were in action the centuries of Pravy Sektor, the Ukrainian comrades lined up on the barricades of Maidan. "With us - tells Panorama - are also coming and volunteers Baltic Finns, who fear they will be the next prey of the Russians." And he concludes: "Shoot and kill you before you kill me, but without hatred even to the separatists. A man can not be said that if he has not experienced the war. "The battalion is composed of Azov "Patriots of Ukraine", the paramilitary wing of the Assembly nationalist social, extreme right, led by Andriy Belitsky, a former political prisoner. '

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Members of the former Kiev unit 3023 invited to join the forces of DPR


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Fresh footage of Ukr. forces combat preparations / operations in #Donbas. … #Ukraine
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Le président ukrainien explique son plan de paix au Figaro
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On the occasion of his first meeting with five major Western media, including Le Figaro, the president of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko , said in Brussels on Friday its strategy to keep the breakaway provinces of the country: "We will never win back these regions by military means. We must reclaim there minds and hearts, "he said, asserting" ready to decentralization ", to" renovate infrastructure "and" proclaim a general amnesty "for insurgents that would weapons. He also admits that the repeal of a second official language of the Russian was "a mistake: I could never enact such a law."
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Moscow strategy is to force the truce via Germany, take down poroshenko's gov through dissatisfaction, and continue girkin attacks until the point of open invasion.
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Germans cut 800 million Euros on defence spending. Putin wins again. Europe are terrified of Putin. Then we have the Austria/Russia mega-deal.
Right after Obama gives a speech about NATO member-states fulfilling their alliance funding requirement, Germans cut 800 EUR from defence spending. Absolutely hilarious. So the Germans told Obama to 'get back in your cage monkey.'

Americans are morons if they continue to keep any of their military in the Europe and NATO. American's need to tell NATO and the EU to go fuck itself. If they aren't willing to do what is required to defend themselves, they are not worthy of having the US continue to fund them. Germany has now said 'no to Russia sanctions' and 'no to NATO.' Get out America.

Let the EU form and fund their own defence force. American's pay 70% of NATO annual budget, why? Euros don't want the Yanks on EU soil.

Catch is, if EU wanted to replace American funding with their own funds, at current levels, EU couldn't afford it. Pensions would be cut and taxes would increase.

EU and their cowardice towards Putin is revolting. They have learned nothing from their parents history which clearly shows appeasement is a failed and false doctrine. I can already hear more Russian tanks on the way to Ukraine.

Germany, I hope Putin stops at Donetsk and Luhansk, but I thought he would stop at Crimea too.

Germany and Austria combined to birth and mold the most evil and sinister totalitarian dictator in modern human history - Adolf Hitler. Fitting those two should combine to save and help another totalitarian dictator Vladimir Putin. Well done.
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Moscow strategy is to force the truce via Germany, take down poroshenko's gov through dissatisfaction, and continue girkin attacks until the point of open invasion.
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Disagree. If a truce can hold then Poroshenko becomes an asset to Moscow and Russia will want him to survive. He will have to face down opposition in Kiev but his chocolate business sells to Russia and Moscow has leverage from that. Poroshenko is the best Moscow can do in Kiev right now.
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Italian fighting for Ukraine:

'one of the 250 men enrolled in the battalion Azov. A training military deployed on the front line in eastern Ukraine, which is becoming an "international Legion" with the arrival of Swedish, French, English and Croatian. "We're not mercenaries, but volunteers with no money to pay," says the man in Panorama "fighting for a good fight."

A past in the far right Italian, Francesco F. did the manager and two years ago had landed in Kiev to sell commodities. Then he decided to take action last January, when the Ukrainian capital were in action the centuries of Pravy Sektor, the Ukrainian comrades lined up on the barricades of Maidan. "With us - tells Panorama - are also coming and volunteers Baltic Finns, who fear they will be the next prey of the Russians." And he concludes: "Shoot and kill you before you kill me, but without hatred even to the separatists. A man can not be said that if he has not experienced the war. "The battalion is composed of Azov "Patriots of Ukraine", the paramilitary wing of the Assembly nationalist social, extreme right, led by Andriy Belitsky, a former political prisoner. '

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I do not believe that they are not getting paid. That is BS. Any mercenary is fighting for pay, that's very definition of mercenary. And they await the fate of this guy Swedish/Danish NATO mercenary John G.O. Christensen
and other captures or killed mercenaries
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Tank checkpoint rout, Poroshenko won't last like this....

'Four killed, five wounded. Painful and bitter defeat ... The reasons are obvious and usual for this war. First - utterly worthless command. It is the middle tier, which has not yet been replaced, and is not a damn thing he can, and can not. The second reason - poor coordination between the security forces of various ministries. Again - at the level of middle management; at the checkpoint differences on this basis do not. The third reason - disgusting intelligence. It is actually not. Or is there, perhaps, but then the results of reconnaissance or not come to the people who make responsible decisions, or ignored them. The fourth reason, it is the first - the lack of modern means of communication - protected from listening to the radio with the communication range of a few tens of kilometers. About what is happening at the checkpoint, still recognized by a cell phone or already - by glow of the fire on the post and the rumble of fire ... By the way, half an hour before the attack, the enemy turned mobile communications Slovyansk ... The fifth reason - unsaturation troops with modern weapons, including - antitank complexes. Enough already called this war "anti-terrorist operation." Enemy - not a bunch of terrorists and military groupings Russian occupiers, equipped and prepared much better than force ATU. This war must be treated as war - seriously, and keep it on all the rules of military science.

And finally ... What the hell, peace talks? .. Why - extension of unilateral ceasefire regime? .. Not dead? .. Should either fight or surrender. Let everyone choose for themselves ... "

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Italian fighting for Ukraine:

'one of the 250 men enrolled in the battalion Azov. A training military deployed on the front line in eastern Ukraine, which is becoming an "international Legion" with the arrival of Swedish, French, English and Croatian. "We're not mercenaries, but volunteers with no money to pay," says the man in Panorama "fighting for a good fight."

A past in the far right Italian, Francesco F. did the manager and two years ago had landed in Kiev to sell commodities. Then he decided to take action last January, when the Ukrainian capital were in action the centuries of Pravy Sektor, the Ukrainian comrades lined up on the barricades of Maidan. "With us - tells Panorama - are also coming and volunteers Baltic Finns, who fear they will be the next prey of the Russians." And he concludes: "Shoot and kill you before you kill me, but without hatred even to the separatists. A man can not be said that if he has not experienced the war. "The battalion is composed of Azov "Patriots of Ukraine", the paramilitary wing of the Assembly nationalist social, extreme right, led by Andriy Belitsky, a former political prisoner. '

[link to www.ilgiornale.it]
 Quoting: Tpotleoz


I do not believe that they are not getting paid. That is BS. Any mercenary is fighting for pay, that's very definition of mercenary. And they await the fate of this guy Swedish/Danish NATO mercenary John G.O. Christensen
and other captures or killed mercenaries
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maybe they are 'retired' like Girkin chuckle
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