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UKRAINE: Did The Winter War Just Begin? Russian Gas Supplies To Europe Plunge 15%, Ukraine Transit Slashed 54%!!!p6194

 
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#BREAKINGVIDEO #Ukraine's National Guard Commander goes live: "I order you to stand up to the criminals!"
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …

Good I want to put that Quote on a T-Shirt do you think

Sells well be good in Russia for them rofl
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Not bad performance but I am not big fan of those stand up comedians...
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AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 1m

NEWS FLASH: OK, there seems that #Ukraine forces are reaching PANIC point ! NG Commander goes LIVE on TV to make an appeal to its forces !
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lennutrajektoor ‏@lennutrajektoor · 1m
and guess what??? Avakov F'er!!! reports of a great victory in fish factory where NG captain got direct hit into terrorists MBT. #Slaviansk
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ConflictReporter ‏@MiddleEast_BRK · 2m
#Breaking (Pro-)Russian militants fired #Grad missiles vs. two Ukrainian army checkpoint near #Sloviansk this evening.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box

I guess (?) that GRADs are effective against BTRs and BMPs.
Does anyone know with reasonable certainty?
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

There are different types of rockets the Grad fires, so it depends on what is loaded.
Some are anti-armor and would be effective against those.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52617843

I assume GRADs have plenty of range, but how about accuracy for a target as small as a checkpoint?

Apart from the direct effect, there is the psychological effect. Put simply, they will strike terror in the people who are targeted and so finally make the rebels truly terrorists genuinely worthy of the appellation.

I meant if you are a conscript manning a checkpoint and you hear that your pals a couple of miles away had their checkpoint come under GRAD attack. Well it would at least make you think about deserting, even if you did not actually desert.
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Pro-Rus Rebel humor: Asked today in one separatist town about hostages. Reply: "Come inside and see." You'll let me leave? I asked. "Maybe."
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AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 1m

NEWS FLASH: OK, there seems that #Ukraine forces are reaching PANIC point ! NG Commander goes LIVE on TV to make an appeal to its forces !
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It seems like seperatists are launching some kind of offensive...they've been prepin during ceasefire.
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More rebel humor, at checkpoint: "Journalist?" Yes. "If I hear you're lying, if you fight, I'll find and kill you myself. Have a good day."
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NAF are kicking ass!

Wow!

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Andre Golo ‏@AndreGoLow · 14m
#Novorossiya that awkward moment when the self proclaimed governor of Donetsk is in a Neo-Nazi paramilitary org.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
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AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 2m

NAF needs to PUSH for it NOW ! Commander of #Ukraine NG clearly stated that this ceasefire ends TOMORROW in a question of HOURS ! PUSH IT !
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Christopher Miller ‏@ChristopherJM 2m

Heavy fighting all week b/t #Ukraine & pro-#Russia rebel forces. If this is a ceasefire, imagine what's to come when it expires at 10 a.m.

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Ukrainian army resumes shelling of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk in eastern #Ukraine – reports [link to on.rt.com]

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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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ConflictReporter ‏@MiddleEast_BRK · 2m
#Breaking (Pro-)Russian militants fired #Grad missiles vs. two Ukrainian army checkpoint near #Sloviansk this evening.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box

I guess (?) that GRADs are effective against BTRs and BMPs.
Does anyone know with reasonable certainty?
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

There are different types of rockets the Grad fires, so it depends on what is loaded.
Some are anti-armor and would be effective against those.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52617843

I assume GRADs have plenty of range, but how about accuracy for a target as small as a checkpoint?

Apart from the direct effect, there is the psychological effect. Put simply, they will strike terror in the people who are targeted and so finally make the rebels truly terrorists genuinely worthy of the appellation.

I meant if you are a conscript manning a checkpoint and you hear that your pals a couple of miles away had their checkpoint come under GRAD attack. Well it would at least make you think about deserting, even if you did not actually desert.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


Here's a video of Saakashvili's grad attack on South Ossetia. You can judge for yourself how indiscriminate and scary these things are. I had a Georgian reservist friend who was right up at the front when these things were firing - he said he was scared shitless, and he wasn't on the receiving end.

A lot of these things fell short of their target, so I was told by a US ex-military guy who went in to South Ossetia right after Medvedev called off the attack.

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Long Live the 100 (!!) Greeks who fight with their orthodox Russian brothers,in East Ukraine.
Make us proud !!
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"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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...

Overwhelmingly, superior in equipment. Numbers may be about equal. But the rebels have a will to fight and their enemy has no wish to fight, not if it means exposing themselves to even slight danger.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

Tell me how you arrived at the opinion that terrorists have more of a will to fight than the Ukrainians defending an invasion of their homeland.

Besides, history proves those defending their lands have more much resolve.
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Terrorists now HOMELAND...you know what I think every time I hear that word Homeland??....FATHERLAND...then there is Afikacorps..FEMACORPS..or even Africom...whatever Russia is (and I'm no supporter) it is NOT the 4th Reich AKA Amerika...about time the f***** Eagle of Rome, NAZI Germany and the 4th Reich finally burned once and for all
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You may define whatever, however, you wish. But it does not mean you are correct or accurate
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Define???? really...then I suggest you look a lot closer at the Puppet Masters
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Nathan J Hunt ‏@ISNJH 7m

#rumint separatists reportedly used light armor and tanks on assault on Ukr army positions outside Sloviansk overnight.
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Andre Golo ‏@AndreGoLow · 14m
#Novorossiya that awkward moment when the self proclaimed governor of Donetsk is in a Neo-Nazi paramilitary org.

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


bump and people still think, they are fighting nazis

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from page 2867:

I've been on this thread since the first page (thank you Luis) and in all that time the last 24 hours have been the most worrisome.

Today though I am more concerned than ever before. The US and the west don't seem to fathom the depth of what is actually happening. They are being sucked into an un-winnable war. The latest pull back of Pres. Putin refusing to talk to Washington is most concerning.

Mr. Obama and his minions are attempting to handle Russia as if it really is just another mid-east minor league team. I think they truly believe Russia is just a "regional power", they are not.

The repeated attempts to marginalize and "punish" a nuclear giant with a more than respectable conventional military, have done nothing but incite a hands on response by Russia's covert forces. Washington has backed Putin into a corner, they must realize that he will be forced to act in response. Sanctions will be met by actions from Moscow, they have few other options.

I hoped that the egomaniac in the White House would seek council from those outside his administration, former advisers or elder statesmen. Instead we get Jen Psaki, Victoria Nuland, Samantha Powers and god only knows what is coming out of Valerie Jarret's or Susan Rice's mouth. Amateurs, at least that's what vibe they are sending out to those of us who are truly awake.

God help us, I fear the worst. Remember my fellow Americans, you got the leadership you voted for. Now go back to sleep it will all be over soon.

h1h
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hesright
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 Quoting: Luisport


You know, I have never spoken to one person that voted FOR Obama?? I don't understand...Maybe its because of where I live and work, but I have never met anyone that did. Seriously.
"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
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Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
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ConflictReporter ‏@MiddleEast_BRK · 2m
#Breaking (Pro-)Russian militants fired #Grad missiles vs. two Ukrainian army checkpoint near #Sloviansk this evening.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box

I guess (?) that GRADs are effective against BTRs and BMPs.

Does anyone know with reasonable certainty?
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


I know one thing with certainty if you give monkeys all modern weapons teach them how to use it they will not stand a chance.
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Yes the 4th Reich has proved that time and time again, maybe DHS will have better luck taking out Patriots/Obama dissidents soon, once the mighty $ is no more
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AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 2m

UNCONFIRMED: Report of combats in or near "Topaz" plant in #Donetsk.
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NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 13m
.@AntonLaGuardia: Finnish & Swedish membership would enhance security by turning the Baltic into a NATO lake. #Russia [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] …

NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 15m
Putin's aggression in Ukraine is forcing a reassessment in Sweden & Finland of joining NATO [link to www.atlanticcouncil.org] …

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NATOSource ‏@NATOSource · 20m
La Guardia: Sweden & Finland stopped being neutral years ago but don't enjoy benefits of NATO: vote in decision-making & Article5 protection

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It Is All Bull Shit I Tell You...

The New Leaders that lead us from SLAVERY to FREEDOM, Just end up becoming our NEW SLAVE MASTERS.

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East-Ukrainian self-defense forces take military base in Donetsk


Self-defense forces of the unrecognized Donetsk People's Republic have gained control over a base of the Interior troops located in downtown Donetsk. "The military received an order from the Ukrainian Defense Ministry in the morning to begin active actions against representatives of the Donetsk People's Republic," the press service of the DPR said to Itar-Tass.

more@ [link to voiceofrussia.com]

strelkov report, thursday

20:49 Local residents reported:
“With their Mt Korochun arsenals all restocked with explosive ordnance, shrapnel is falling like rain from heaven. Population took refuge in basements. Sounds like hell of some kind. We could hear the screams of women. Slavyansk is being subjected to intense mortar fire. Kramatorsk is also being shelled from Mt Korochun, beginning near the airfield, then in retaliation residential sector.”

20:42. The Donetsk self-defense army announces completion of assault on point 3004. Victory!
In taking part participated in a battalion of miners “Kalmius” and group BB Donetsk self-defense.

20:24 Message from militia Slavyansk. “Bombardment began district Lazirni Kramatorsk from Mt Korochun.”

19:40 Message from the militia. “In Donetsk right now the National Guard units storm no 3004 on Shchorsa St 116, near the Mining area. Worked out KPVT and flies, made gate BRDM. There is fighting.
Eyewitnesses reported intensive shooting.”

more@ [link to niqnaq.wordpress.com]
"If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth programme, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs.

Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite."

Gary Allen

NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hitler was a leftist

[link to constitutionalistnc.tripod.com]
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A dozen Grads, and support vehicles being moved into position.


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Catherina ‏@Catherina_News · 7m
#Breaking: #Donetsk, Militia Battle with Ukr Unit 3004. 3004 ran out of ammunition, Cdr in captivity, soldiers left
[link to vv.gov.ua] …
It Is All Bull Shit I Tell You...

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AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 3m

UNCONFIRMED: In one CP of #Slavyansk ATO claims NAF lost a armored vehicle that made a crazy charge attack trough it but the battle rages !
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Large Russian shill infestation in this thread. Anyone got any bug spray?
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Well watch out then cause you are a bug a Nazi bug.
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Nathan J Hunt ‏@ISNJH · 21s
Current time in Ukraine is 1:10 AM, many are watching to see what will happen in morning once ceasefire ends and 12 hour ultimatum expires.

LOL I don't know where Hunt has been the last 3 or 4 hours

what ceasefire. he must be another journalist living in

his mothers basement.
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Ed Skibicki ‏@BigEdSkib · 7m
#USA advances, #Russia out, #Ukraine to sign #EU association agreement tomorrow - I must be dreaming! Stand with us [link to www.facebook.com] …

Glazyev Warns EU Association Agreement "Economic Suicide" for Ukraine, as Poroshenko Rushes to Sign It

[link to www.larouchepub.com]

June 25, 2014 (EIRNS)—Even as urgent diplomacy is under way to stem the bloodshed in eastern Ukraine and nearly half a million people have fled the country, President Petro Poroshenko plans to sign the economic section of Ukraine’s Association Agreement (AA) with the European Union, day after tomorrow. It was the decision last November by his since overthrown predecessor, President Victor Yanukovych, to suspend negotiations on the AA on national security grounds, that triggered the months-long coup process and civil war in Ukraine. The political part of the AA was signed by the interim post-coup government in March. Today, Poroshenko described his intended act as follows: "On June 27 in Brussels, in the presence of the heads of state of the European Union, Ukraine will become a full-fledged associate member of the EU."

less than %50

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Large Russian shill infestation in this thread. Anyone got any bug spray?
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Well watch out then cause you are a bug a Nazi bug.
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