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CNN: @JohnKerry: "I read in social media that these pro-Russian separatists are drunk. Let's talk on Israel now"



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KERRY SAYS BUK SA-11 MISSILE SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT DOWN #MH17 CAME FROM RUSSIA

Oh did he now? I would never have guessed :O

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Hi all hi

Just home from work and trying to catch up. Anything new?
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Tamonten, is this true?

[link to gubarev.org]
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You mean, is this blog truly by Pavel Gubarev? Can't really say on the spot, but it seems legit on the first glance.
The text itself is just recomendations for organizing partisan actions.
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The 'wargame' now depicts major escalation followed by Russian troops crossing from Crimea.
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What is your estimated timeframe for the Crimea crossing?
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Hi all hi

Just home from work and trying to catch up. Anything new?
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Hai! Just got home aswell.
Nothing huge I guess tounge
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marqs ‏@MarQs__ 5 min.
#Kerry: It's clear that missile system used to shoot down Malaysian plane was transferred from #Russia into hands of separatists - #CNN
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German MSM is LYING ! Biggest newspaper BILD is LYING !
And so is the junta.

[link to www.bild.de]

check out the first photo. They say that is the trail of a BUK rocket right before the plane went down.

Caption under photo: Rauchspur in den Tod: Diese Aufnahmen entstanden laut ukrainischem Geheimdienst Sekunden vor dem Abschuss von MH17

Yet the sky is CLEAR.
When the plane went down, the sky was CLOUDY in the area !!!




German MSM is LYING ! Biggest newspaper BILD is LYING !
And so is the junta who provided this "evidence" for BILD.

Obviously that BUK rocket trail is from another day and from another area.

This is how the junta criminals LIE ALL THE TIME !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60479618
THIS IS HOW DESPERATE THEY ARE TO BLAME RUSSIA
They are running out of time
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Yuck... who is reading "Bild" ?? Its the biggest sensationalistic exaggerating daily paper you can get. They don't care what they write as long as it sound "catchy"
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Tamonten, is this true?

[link to gubarev.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58282033


You mean, is this blog truly by Pavel Gubarev? Can't really say on the spot, but it seems legit on the first glance.
The text itself is just recomendations for organizing partisan actions.
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Me thinks that may be a future document of historic relevance.

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Hi all hi

Just home from work and trying to catch up. Anything new?
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Hai! Just got home aswell.
Nothing huge I guess tounge
 Quoting: Falter


Still the blame game.... and armies moving. Good thing the black boxes will go straight to the international experts.

Would be interesting what would happen if things are not as they are made appear to be
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marqs ‏@MarQs__ 5 min.
#Kerry: It's clear that missile system used to shoot down Malaysian plane was transferred from #Russia into hands of separatists - #CNN
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


#PIR: It's clear Kerry is pushing hard for WWIII because the US is bankrupt and the BRICS nations threaten the petrodollar - #GLP

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We know what happened to MH17,& no amount of shouting of "Saddam & WMD!" or "Nazis control Kyiv!" is going to change facts of the case.
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Oh no not that rtard Shindler... He even calls his account and his blog "20 committee" implying theres like 20 of them, when in fact its just one rtard - John Shindler.
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Rumor that Putin is in Kiev meeting Poroshenko. Any signs?

If so. Watch out for 'assassins'! A lot of people want him dead in Kiev :(
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#Ukraine is moving again many heavy armored vehicles in direction of #donetsk and #Luhansk.
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#Kerry: It's clear that missile system used to shoot down Malaysian plane was transferred from #Russia into hands of separatists - #CNN
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


#PIR: It's clear Kerry is pushing hard for WWIII because the US is bankrupt and the BRICS nations threaten the petrodollar - #GLP

chuckle
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hesright
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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AN-26 #Ukraine army plane was shot down near #Krasnodon pic.twitter.com/C3FsJlXqZw


[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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German MSM is LYING ! Biggest newspaper BILD is LYING !
And so is the junta.

[link to www.bild.de]

check out the first photo. They say that is the trail of a BUK rocket right before the plane went down.

Caption under photo: Rauchspur in den Tod: Diese Aufnahmen entstanden laut ukrainischem Geheimdienst Sekunden vor dem Abschuss von MH17

Yet the sky is CLEAR.
When the plane went down, the sky was CLOUDY in the area !!!




German MSM is LYING ! Biggest newspaper BILD is LYING !
And so is the junta who provided this "evidence" for BILD.

Obviously that BUK rocket trail is from another day and from another area.

This is how the junta criminals LIE ALL THE TIME !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60479618

Agreeing that BILD is giving very little information as for sources, and is a doubtful source in its own right. We just have to believe them that the photo was made on 17 July around 18:22 Ukraine time.

All your arguments are false though.

As you can see in the photo here: [link to www.bild.de] it isn't cloudless. The photo is of bad quality and not very clear, but you can see a darker line on the top showing that the rest of the sky are in fact hazy or full cloud cover. Check this video from around 22 seconds in, it looks very comparable.



Additionally in photos from a few hours after the crash the sky and ground look the same, taking into account different lighting both from position of the photographer and the equipment.

IMAGE ( [link to i.guim.co.uk] )

IMAGE ( [link to i.guim.co.uk] )

IMAGE ( [link to i.guim.co.uk] )



Now I also did some research into what kind of smoke trail a BUK system leaves behind. At least in this video from 2012 by someone from Thailand I'd say the trail just a second or two after launch looks identical.




All in all, I see no reason to deny the truthfulness of this photo. Although there is no reason to just believe the original uploader of the photo, looking at social media and Google it seems the photo was uploaded on the 18th, half a day after the crash.
That means one of three things...

1] The uploader photoshopped a trail into an already existing photo. But then it's a pretty convincing photoshop in only half a day, and difficult to do properly in a bad quality photo. After close scrutiny though, I don't think it's photoshop.
2] The uploader made the photo before, and waited to upload it just in case there's at a later time an attack on a passenger jet where the international media have an idea it's a BUK missiile system, but there's no 'smoking gun', and this would do it for them. But the weeks before the crash no-one (not even on this thread) would have suspected something like this would happen though. So unless *conspiracies* *false flag of the highest order*, I don't think it's all too likely. Not 100% impossible though.
3] It's real.


Again, I see no reason in the photo itself not to believe it. It's a smoking gun, but I agree we can't be 100% sure it's from 17 July. Taking the above calculations into account however, I'm cautiously willing to believe it.

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AN-26 #Ukraine army plane was shot down near #Krasnodon pic.twitter.com/C3FsJlXqZw


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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


I bet the Junta thought the NAF would be afraid to use the MANNPADS after the civilian flight was shot down.

Seems to me the Junta thought wrong.
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NEWS FLASH:
Large formation of #Ukraine troops with armored vehicles are attacking Popasnaya now.


AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 2 min.
NEWS FLASH:
#ukraine troops continue shelling #Luhansk.


AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 41 sek.
NEWS FLASH:
#ukraine troops also shelling #donetsk.
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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Overnight #Ukraine shelled #Lysychansk with white phosphorus CW [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …


“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Continued phone diplomacy today on #Ukraine. Many calls, including Chancellor Merkel and PM Rutte. Situation not good, to put it mildly.
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Hi all hi

Just home from work and trying to catch up. Anything new?
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Obama does not know where the real black boxes are so it frustrates his desire to inject the false ones into his narrative.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38687327

Both Western and Russian media report that the black boxes have been shipped to Moscow, in violation of international agreements--presumably for tampering.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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The news service Interfax reported that rebel Russian separatist forces in Ukraine had already found the black box and agreed to give it to a Russian-run regional air safety authority.

Andrei Purgin, the self-styled deputy prime minister of the separatist Donetsk People's Republic, told Interfax: "Of course, we most likely will give them (the recorders) to the Interstate Aviation Committee, to Moscow."
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Russian radio station Kommersant FM also reported that the black box was on its way to Moscow.
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Obama does not know where the real black boxes are so it frustrates his desire to inject the false ones into his narrative.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38687327

Both Western and Russian media report that the black boxes have been shipped to Moscow, in violation of international agreements--presumably for tampering.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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The news service Interfax reported that rebel Russian separatist forces in Ukraine had already found the black box and agreed to give it to a Russian-run regional air safety authority.

Andrei Purgin, the self-styled deputy prime minister of the separatist Donetsk People's Republic, told Interfax: "Of course, we most likely will give them (the recorders) to the Interstate Aviation Committee, to Moscow."
...
Russian radio station Kommersant FM also reported that the black box was on its way to Moscow.
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First


And what is with the story running now saying they will be given to the international experts?
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27 more bodies have been found at the #MH17 crash site, bringing the total number of bodies recovered to 233. [link to cnn.it]


here you have it, no one controls the crash site, no on is there and yet we can be so precise about number of bodies.

The media manipulation coupled with the EU/US lies are getting too obvious to ignore. (not to mention, there are body parts involved - how do you count the pieces and state a number of bodies)
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"MH17: pro-Russia rebels will allow access to crash site if ceasefire agreed." [link to www.theguardian.com]
"A leader of the pro-Russia rebel fighters in Ukraine has said they will guarantee the safety of international monitors at the Malaysian plane's crash site if Kiev agrees to a truce."
"We declare that we will guarantee the safety of international experts on the scene as soon as Kiev concludes a ceasefire agreement," said Andrei Purgin, deputy premier of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic in a statement. He urged Kiev to "immediately conclude such an agreement" with the rebels.
What kind of Monster would makes these statements? Using the dead bodies of victims to coerce and extort Kyiv into a nationwide cease-fire??!!! My God, these Putin backed terror-rebels have no decency. The abject evil of these men is becoming indescribable.
These rebel cretins have now victimised the doomed passengers and their families four times-
1. They murdered them by blowing their plane out of sky
2. Allowed mangled corpses to lay about and decompose.
3. Looting the crime and crash scene
4. Using victim's bodies as a political/bargaining chip.
Putin and his Hell Hounds must be expelled from Ukraine no matter the cost. Putin's evil is a very are sort and must be fought in every direction with as much force and faith that can be mustered. Putin views appeasement and inaction as weaknesses - wake up Europe it's 1939 all over gain.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34799298

All real military experts pinpoint on Ukraine shooting airplane. What if kiev did that. How it will change ur attitude. It is ok if it is kiev?
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Q. Would it have made any difference if the Gulf of Tonkin incident had been found years later to be genuine and not a false flag?
A. It would make no difference. Minds are made up, facts are irrelevant.
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Catherina ‏@Catherina_News 4m

United Kingdom, Germany and France have agreed to impose new sanctions against Russia [link to j.mp]
 Quoting: steelseries


Good, hopefully now Russia will quit trying to please Europe and go all in in Ukraine.
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Catherina ‏@Catherina_News 4m

United Kingdom, Germany and France have agreed to impose new sanctions against Russia [link to j.mp]
 Quoting: steelseries


Oh damn...
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Myroslava Petsa ‏@myroslavapetsa · 6h
#Netherlands PM Rutte: #Putin must take responsibility. The window of opportunity is closing rapidly [link to www.government.nl] … #MH17

or what are the Dutch threaten to do then send troops in

with the Americans. declare War put harsh sanctions on

Russia NO MORE WOODEN SHOES OR TULIPS.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


PM Rutte is NOT DUTCH, he is of alien breed !!!! ...lol... We Dutch people cant believe he is running this country !
He is full of shit and loves to lick the heels of the US.

Rutte is a dumbass, a blamage, a shame, and great mistake for Holland !


Sometimes I am ashamed to be Dutch ....


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