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This whole talking to each other thing with Putin saying the same damn thing over and over again is getting on my nerves. And yet, we still haven't heard anything about anyone finally getting the bodies or cessation of anything. And what is left to investigate anyway? There is nothing but scrap metal left.
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He's hanging himself, incrementally. The Americans will give him all the rope he desires.
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soo..lemme guess.

you think Soros and Nuland get their orders from Putin.

amirite?
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No. A start on the way back toward truth would begin by not presupposing what I think.
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How is he even responsible for the bodies?

He is the president of Russia not Donetsk Peoples Republic.

He has NOTHING to do with it.

The bodies are Alexander Borodai's reponsibility.
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 Quoting: RTS REDUX


whoa putin looks stressed the fuck out, theres something off about him
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He sure does.

Putin speaks very pretty words.

Now we just have to wait and see if he walks his talk.

My bet is that there still won't be full access to the crime scene until the site has been completely sanitised.
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from what evidence ? a piece of Buk m1 missile stucked in MH17 chasis with words "ON KIEV" written on ??? ryly m8 ?
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Exactly my point AC. There won't be any evidence left by the time international teams get full access.

If there was anything with "ON KIEV" written on, it would be all over the internet by now.

The Rebels are the only people to have full control of the site and they haven't turned up any evidence yet. Just cleaning and covering up.
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the bottom line in all of this is that Putin's still gonna take Ukraine.
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1000% on the mark and the classroom with the top bully (Russia), the rest of the class (world community) is not going to do a thing.

Putin can go tell world community and USA 'we did it and world and USA ain't going to do a thing!'.

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Putin has already blinked, several times. Sectoral sanctions will cripple Putin and his oligarch buddies. Putin, now more than ever, needs to watch his back. The oligarchs can payoff the generals and admirals and select Duma elite = bye bye Putito.
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MOSCOW, July 21, /ITAR-TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin and his French colleague Francois Hollande in a telephone conversation have stressed the importance of the earliest launch of a comprehensive and objective international investigation by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) into the circumstances of the air crash in Ukraine’s Donetsk region, the Kremlin press service reported.

“The sides stressed the need of immediate cessation of military operations in the southeast of Ukraine as the most important condition for the effective work if international experts in the air crash zone,” the report says. [link to en.itar-tass.com]
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This whole talking to each other thing with Putin saying the same damn thing over and over again is getting on my nerves. And yet, we still haven't heard anything about anyone finally getting the bodies or cessation of anything. And what is left to investigate anyway? There is nothing but scrap metal left.
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I agree. Putin will only give the orders to his Russian proxies to step aside once the site is squeaky clean of all evidence.

The problem is that the international community will largely have to rely on US surveillance and satellite footage of the scene.

It will hardly end up being an impartial and fully comprehensive investigation.
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Yep. It seems like a lot of officials have something to say, but nothing is actually getting done. Hmm..I might be too young, but I believe something like this happened before..hmmmmmmmm...
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Alexander Borodai 19 Jul press conference about Malaysian #MH17 crash/ English subtitles
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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

i FRONT PAGE: "'Pariah'" Putin faces new sanctions within days" #skypapers



 Quoting: Luisport


did not Putin or the FM say if Level 3 sanctions where

put in place Russia would send the tanks in.
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Putin's getting pretty tired of these NWO shit-heads.
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More military exercises, more troop movements? Yeah, the Americans are fucking terrified.neener2
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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

i FRONT PAGE: "'Pariah'" Putin faces new sanctions within days" #skypapers



 Quoting: Luisport


did not Putin or the FM say if Level 3 sanctions where

put in place Russia would send the tanks in.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Putin's getting pretty tired of these NWO shit-heads.
.
 Quoting: Cats88

More military exercises, more troop movements? Yeah, the Americans are fucking terrified.neener2
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the NWO and NATO are backing off. they're just doing it
slowly so they can save face.
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whoa putin looks stressed the fuck out, theres something off about him
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Yeah, he does like pretty whacked.

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I see the polonium is working.
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Alexander Borodai 19 Jul press conference about Malaysian #MH17 crash/ English subtitles

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... when he lied and said that he did not know anything about the black boxes

... 24 hours after they had been found per a Reuters video that was held secret for two days
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whoa putin looks stressed the fuck out, theres something off about him
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Might have something to do with his attempt at a coverup.
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did not Putin or the FM say if Level 3 sanctions where

put in place Russia would send the tanks in.
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box


Putin's getting pretty tired of these NWO shit-heads.
.
 Quoting: Cats88

More military exercises, more troop movements? Yeah, the Americans are fucking terrified.neener2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60458540


the NWO and NATO are backing off. they're just doing it
slowly so they can save face.
.
 Quoting: Cats88

Europeans are cowards. American sanctions have a potent, if latent effect. Putler better hit his brics ATM for a few billion.
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Alexander Borodai 19 Jul press conference about Malaysian #MH17 crash/ English subtitles

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Wonder if this Russian rebel proxy leader is really saying 'listen Putin buddy, if u don't supply me with some more good Russian vodka, I'm going to spill the beans on the Russian technical advisors and staff to run the Buk sa-11 missile that took down the commercial plane'

This Russian rebel terrorist leader looks like the type to flip on the Russians of Moscow government (and his handlers) if he's not given his supply of good Russian vodka.

N'uff said...
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Alexander Borodai 19 Jul press conference about Malaysian #MH17 crash/ English subtitles

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... when he lied and said that he did not know anything about the black boxes

... 24 hours after they had been found per a Reuters video that was held secret for two days
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55340581


wow..so it sounds like you agree that he is responsible and not Putin?

How can that be?



btw..I'd give him the benefit of the doubt all day long over the demons in the NWO/MSM and the nazi's in Kiev.


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Putin's getting pretty tired of these NWO shit-heads.
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 Quoting: Cats88

More military exercises, more troop movements? Yeah, the Americans are fucking terrified.neener2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60458540


the NWO and NATO are backing off. they're just doing it
slowly so they can save face.
.
 Quoting: Cats88

Europeans are cowards. American sanctions have a potent, if latent effect. Putler better hit his brics ATM for a few billion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60458540


precisely. he's not worried.

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Will Russia shoot down West’s lies?

They don't call it the "gutter press" for nothing. But Western so-called news media sunk to new toxic depths over the weekend in their coverage of the Malaysian airliner downed over Ukraine - and the death of all 298 people on board.

It was a veritable media-orgy of lies, propaganda and vilification spewed out by American and European corporate news outlets. Whether online, television, or newspaper, the media went into overdrive to lay the blame for the disaster on Russia or "Russian-backed rebels" in Ukraine.

Of course, informed people around the world know that the Western mainstream media operate as a propaganda machine for powerful elite interests. But what is astounding is just how brazen the brainwashing purpose has become.

Without sparing a respectful pause for the crash victims and their families, the Western media stampeded to make cheap political points - dutifully obeying their masters.

Trashy tabloids joined with so-called "quality" outlets to form a virtual lynch mob to hang Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Britain's Daily Mail ran this front page headline on Saturday: 'Putin killed my son' - quoting the family of one of the dead British passengers. The Daily Express screamed: 'Putin's rebels blew up plane'. The Sun plumbed the sewer with this one: 'Putin's looters rob Brit victim.'

The supposed high-brow press were braying for Putin's blood too, albeit in a more refined, that is, deceitful way. The Independent: 'The fingers point at Putin'; The Guardian: 'Ukraine claims 'compelling evidence' of Russian involvement.'

The same media manipulation over the weekend was seen in the US and other European countries. Hardly one of them exercised any kind of independence in reporting or analysing how the Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur flight was taken down.

It was a breath-taking case study of lazy journalism at best, or, more likely, of sinister manufacturing of public opinion by the media conglomerates and their political masters.

Even respected journalists like Jon Snow on Britain's Channel 4 news displayed a servile mentality towards the official narrative befitting a monkey dancing to the tune of an organ grinder.

One telling aspect is that the herd-like rush to blame Russia and President Putin for the disaster is based on scant factual evidence, but lots of lurid innuendo and hearsay peddled by the Western-backed stooge regime in Kiev. It really is a measure of how degenerate the Western journalism has become.

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whoa putin looks stressed the fuck out, theres something off about him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60243057

He sure does.
Putin speaks very pretty words.
Now we just have to wait and see if he walks his talk.
My bet is that there still won't be full access to the crime scene until the site has been completely sanitised.
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His country has no access to the site, nor any way to create one until Kiev gives permission to open humanitarian aid corridors to reach it.

We will see whether Kiev does. And does promptly.
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More military exercises, more troop movements? Yeah, the Americans are fucking terrified.neener2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60458540


the NWO and NATO are backing off. they're just doing it
slowly so they can save face.
.
 Quoting: Cats88

Europeans are cowards. American sanctions have a potent, if latent effect. Putler better hit his brics ATM for a few billion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60458540


precisely. he's not worried.

.
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Nobody is worried about the Europeans, the Americans on the other hand, well, let's just say they have fought in major wars and conflicts in every decade for a century, save one - the 1930's. There are now 5.5 years left in this decade. The USA have in their sights the man whose first attempt at US dollar destruction was in 2008-a fool's attempt really, which is why the Chinese ratted him out to the Americans.
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the NWO and NATO are backing off. they're just doing it
slowly so they can save face.
.
 Quoting: Cats88

Europeans are cowards. American sanctions have a potent, if latent effect. Putler better hit his brics ATM for a few billion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60458540


precisely. he's not worried.

.
 Quoting: Cats88

Nobody is worried about the Europeans, the Americans on the other hand, well, let's just say they have fought in major wars and conflicts in every decade for a century, save one - the 1930's. There are now 5.5 years left in this decade. The USA have in their sights the man whose first attempt at US dollar destruction was in 2008-a fool's attempt really, which is why the Chinese ratted him out to the Americans.
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the NWO is done, finished. let it go.....

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whoa putin looks stressed the fuck out, theres something off about him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60243057


Might have something to do with his attempt at a coverup.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


not what i was leaning towards at all, considering reports mh17 was a possible attempt on his life. now, all of the west is ganging on russia, his body language and expressions resonate fear, like a cornered animal. all coincidence of course, happening after the whole brics announcement

fuck the western installed coup in ukraine, and fuck the banking cartels that are taking us all for a ride

hes going to get gadaffi'd, thats whats going through his head

tired of morons justifying our nations that have been usurped and controlled by banking cartels

enemies to humanity, the lot of you

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 Quoting: RTS REDUX


whoa putin looks stressed the fuck out, theres something off about him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60243057

He sure does.
Putin speaks very pretty words.
Now we just have to wait and see if he walks his talk.
My bet is that there still won't be full access to the crime scene until the site has been completely sanitised.
 Quoting: KFinn

His country has no access to the site, nor any way to create one until Kiev gives permission to open humanitarian aid corridors to reach it.

We will see whether Kiev does. And does promptly.
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Time to make another coup d'etat in Kiev, arrest Kiev junta-mafia, stop the war from becoming a world war, allow all international monitors visit the site, and open humanitarian corridor from Russia to south east of Ukraine. Because all our world leaders essentially don't give a damn about diseased people. If they really care they could push Kiev to stop war and allow all international organizations safely access the site. But it sounds too idealistic isn't it.
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whoa putin looks stressed the fuck out, theres something off about him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60243057

He sure does.
Putin speaks very pretty words.
Now we just have to wait and see if he walks his talk.
My bet is that there still won't be full access to the crime scene until the site has been completely sanitised.
 Quoting: KFinn

His country has no access to the site, nor any way to create one until Kiev gives permission to open humanitarian aid corridors to reach it.

We will see whether Kiev does. And does promptly.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


Time to make another coup d'etat in Kiev, arrest Kiev junta-mafia, stop the war from becoming a world war, allow all international monitors visit the site, and open humanitarian corridor from Russia to south east of Ukraine. Because all our world leaders essentially don't give a damn about diseased people. If they really care they could push Kiev to stop war and allow all international organizations safely access the site. But it sounds too idealistic isn't it.
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zombies
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... scant factual evidence, but lots of lurid innuendo and hearsay ...
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That just about sums it up.

Scant factual evidence that the West is willing to reveal that is.

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whoa putin looks stressed the fuck out, theres something off about him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60243057

He sure does.
Putin speaks very pretty words.
Now we just have to wait and see if he walks his talk.
My bet is that there still won't be full access to the crime scene until the site has been completely sanitised.
 Quoting: KFinn

His country has no access to the site, nor any way to create one until Kiev gives permission to open humanitarian aid corridors to reach it.

We will see whether Kiev does. And does promptly.
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Let me get this straight. The two guys that wield absolute power over that area where the plane crash is are both Russian citizens, both with ties to the FSB and Girkin being a GRU Colonel. Now the, Alpha Male, Putin, cannot get anything into this newly declared state, which the Russian's now call 'New Russia.' Girkin can get in tanks, apv's, advanced air defence systems, but Putler has to ask permission from a president whose election he does not recognize, from a country whose government he does not recognize, to bring in humanitarian aid which the global community is begging that he does. Putin is so uncharacteristically jacked-up, his actions reveal the folly of his words, which betray his thoughts.
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He sure does.
Putin speaks very pretty words.
Now we just have to wait and see if he walks his talk.
My bet is that there still won't be full access to the crime scene until the site has been completely sanitised.
 Quoting: KFinn

His country has no access to the site, nor any way to create one until Kiev gives permission to open humanitarian aid corridors to reach it.

We will see whether Kiev does. And does promptly.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


Time to make another coup d'etat in Kiev, arrest Kiev junta-mafia, stop the war from becoming a world war, allow all international monitors visit the site, and open humanitarian corridor from Russia to south east of Ukraine. Because all our world leaders essentially don't give a damn about diseased people. If they really care they could push Kiev to stop war and allow all international organizations safely access the site. But it sounds too idealistic isn't it.
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zombies
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putin
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Tnx RTS REDUX for your reply to my Rothschild-post hf


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whoa putin looks stressed the fuck out, theres something off about him
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60243057

He sure does.
Putin speaks very pretty words.
Now we just have to wait and see if he walks his talk.
My bet is that there still won't be full access to the crime scene until the site has been completely sanitised.
 Quoting: KFinn

His country has no access to the site, nor any way to create one until Kiev gives permission to open humanitarian aid corridors to reach it.
We will see whether Kiev does. And does promptly.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

Time to make another coup d'etat in Kiev, arrest Kiev junta-mafia, stop the war from becoming a world war, allow all international monitors visit the site, and open humanitarian corridor from Russia to south east of Ukraine. Because all our world leaders essentially don't give a damn about diseased people. If they really care they could push Kiev to stop war and allow all international organizations safely access the site. But it sounds too idealistic isn't it.
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Doing that would meet an end to war, and Nuland's $5bn would thereby have been wasted.
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Crashed MH17 flight 'was 300 miles off typical course'
MH17 flight feared to have been shot down over Ukraine was taking a significantly different route to the usual course for flights from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, according to aviation expert
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He sure does.
Putin speaks very pretty words.
Now we just have to wait and see if he walks his talk.
My bet is that there still won't be full access to the crime scene until the site has been completely sanitised.
 Quoting: KFinn

His country has no access to the site, nor any way to create one until Kiev gives permission to open humanitarian aid corridors to reach it.
We will see whether Kiev does. And does promptly.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

Time to make another coup d'etat in Kiev, arrest Kiev junta-mafia, stop the war from becoming a world war, allow all international monitors visit the site, and open humanitarian corridor from Russia to south east of Ukraine. Because all our world leaders essentially don't give a damn about diseased people. If they really care they could push Kiev to stop war and allow all international organizations safely access the site. But it sounds too idealistic isn't it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10426410

Doing that would meet an end to war, and Nuland's $5bn would thereby have been wasted.
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so fuking $5bn stolen from american taxpayers more important than humans lives lost in plane crush and in bombings of civilians? That's a top of hypocrisy.
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MOSCOW, July 21, /ITAR-TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin and his French colleague Francois Hollande in a telephone conversation have stressed the importance of the earliest launch of a comprehensive and objective international investigation by the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) into the circumstances of the air crash in Ukraine’s Donetsk region, the Kremlin press service reported.

“The sides stressed the need of immediate cessation of military operations in the southeast of Ukraine as the most important condition for the effective work if international experts in the air crash zone,” the report says. [link to en.itar-tass.com]
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


This whole talking to each other thing with Putin saying the same damn thing over and over again is getting on my nerves. And yet, we still haven't heard anything about anyone finally getting the bodies or cessation of anything. And what is left to investigate anyway? There is nothing but scrap metal left.
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I agree. Putin will only give the orders to his Russian proxies to step aside once the site is squeaky clean of all evidence.

The problem is that the international community will largely have to rely on US surveillance and satellite footage of the scene.

It will hardly end up being an impartial and fully comprehensive investigation.
 Quoting: KFinn


well, at least the crash site is all cleaned up.

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 Quoting: Cats88


Yep, a bit of last minute vacuuming and it should be good to go. ;)
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07/21/2014 12:24 AM
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Putin will speak at 1:40 est or moscow time?
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