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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36613458 United States 08/03/2014 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Nobody gets an official position in any way affiliated with the US, inside the US government or outside the country, unless they are fully vetted - as in well bribed with money and/or power or easily blackmailed. Since Porky's who he is, he innately falls within the money/power clan. |
Krispy71 User ID: 39765605 Netherlands 08/03/2014 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ????? are these numbers right ? FashVelRealOgraphy ‏@EmeraudeALB 4 min. #Russia's Federal Migration Service says displaced persons from #Ukraine now in #Russia number almost Two Million. [link to en.itar-tass.com] --- In The Peninsula ‏@Inthepeninsula 4 min. Seems #Ukraine telecom operators (MTS) will now cut services in #Crimea on August 5th & all Crimeans will be roaming. "Occupied territory"? --- Marcel Sardo ‏@marcelsardo 5 min. Another Ukraine Air Force Jet "force-grounded" by NAF via @Black_Bomb --- Ukraine's army on outskirts of rebel stronghold [link to www.cnsnews.com] Last Edited by Krispy71 on 08/03/2014 03:26 PM |
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henrykamens User ID: 48170184 08/03/2014 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Today there was a report on local hungarian television RTL Klub, that the hungarian minority in western Ukraine is protesting (Hungary is bordering Ukraine in the west), because there's a forced draft. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54899335 The video is here, but no captions or english version, sorry: [link to www.rtlklub.hu] It says that people are fleeing because they are taken to the eastern front to fight the rebels, some people have fled to Hungary not to be drafted. They mention a 19 year old ethnic hungarian, who came home in a bodybag, and a woman with her son and nephew who fled to Hungary. I'm truly sorry to hear about your brethren in Ukraine. I've been hoping to find someone from Hungary... Hungarian Prime Minister and Saakashvili are friends and guilty in many cases [link to www.interpressnews.ge] Is this a fair assessment of Viktor Orban? I note that he's another EPP member, and I tend to think of the EPP as the scourge of Europe, but I'm interested - how is he received within Hungary? Hungary has granted political asylum to Georgia's former Chief Prosecutor (Zurab Adeishvili), and Hungary was the first place which Saakashvili ran to when he was sentenced in absentia (along with Adeishvili) to pre-trial detention. I know all about the misdeeds of the Georgians I mentioned, but nothing about Hungarian politics (sorry - we've had our hands full in Georgia!) Edit: and, by giving tacit approval to the actions being taken by Kiev (through his approval of Saakashvili - who has been one of the people driving the Ukrainian bus), does this set your PM at odds with his own people, who are opposed to seeing ethnic Hungarians in Ukraine being put in the firing line because of that? Is anyone protesting in Hungary about it? Last Edited by henrykamens on 08/03/2014 04:28 PM ''Know what I learned from Rocky?'' said Jake LaMotta, a boyhood friend and reform-school mate of Graziano's. ''I learned you should be nice to people. He was a master at that. I had become bitter in later years from the way some people treated me, and I became like a recluse, a loner. I'd watch Rocky, and people was always comin' over to say hello. I learned that the good people overcome the bad.'' |
Krispy71 User ID: 39765605 Netherlands 08/03/2014 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Jacob Clower ‏@RI_AECD 18 min. Six British crash experts are due in Ukraine to assist in the investigation into the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17. ---- #ukraine Sevastopol (Crimae) is turning back to the Soviet closed town days [link to belsec.skynetblogs.be] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 61125593 Portugal 08/03/2014 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT @RT_com · 33 seg #OSCE monitors and journos come under shelling from #Ukraine at Russian border [link to on.rt.com] pic.twitter.com/rkqWNrS59K |
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Nuke68 User ID: 47917525 Ireland 08/03/2014 04:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Yeah well, Hitler was dismissive of Russia too and look where that got him. Last Edited by Nuke68 on 08/03/2014 04:43 PM |
RTS REDUX User ID: 57849075 United States 08/03/2014 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 well..duh! there are no Black Muslims in Russia. Obama: 'If You've Got a Business, You Didn't Build That. Somebody Else Made That Happen' [link to www.cnsnews.com] :youthatswho: Thread: OBAMA THANKS MUSLIMS FOR BUILDING AMERICA! Last Edited by RTS REDUX on 08/03/2014 05:13 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57589670 United States 08/03/2014 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If Russia doesn't make anything, why does Obama keep saying they are supplying weapons to the separatists? Obama is living in a fantasy world. He wants to believe that Russia is the same Russia of 1991, weak militarily, politically, and economically. He wants to believe the same thing about China. He doesn't want to believe that America is in the process of decline. Reality does not match his agenda. This is very dangerous for America and the world. |
Nuke68 User ID: 47917525 Ireland 08/03/2014 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If Russia doesn't make anything, why does Obama keep saying they are supplying weapons to the separatists? Obama is living in a fantasy world. He wants to believe that Russia is the same Russia of 1991, weak militarily, politically, and economically. He wants to believe the same thing about China. He doesn't want to believe that America is in the process of decline. Reality does not match his agenda. This is very dangerous for America and the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47683143 Germany 08/03/2014 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @georgivs_cit A selection of posts made by Russian terrorist Girkin on forum, lots of hate speech (in RUS) [link to potsreotizm.livejournal.com] |
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RTS REDUX User ID: 57849075 United States 08/03/2014 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 If Russia doesn't make anything, why does Obama keep saying they are supplying weapons to the separatists? Obama is living in a fantasy world. He wants to believe that Russia is the same Russia of 1991, weak militarily, politically, and economically. He wants to believe the same thing about China. He doesn't want to believe that America is in the process of decline. Reality does not match his agenda. This is very dangerous for America and the world. exactly..and I highly doubt if Russia and China aren't privy to every military secret of the US and NATO. [link to www.discoverthenetworks.org] [snip] When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, Chinese missiles were greatly limited in terms of their range and accuracy. But as journalist Richard Poe noted in 2003, “Thanks to Bill Clinton, China can now hit any city in the USA, using state-of-the-art, solid-fueled missiles with dead-accurate, computerized guidance systems and multiple warheads.” Poe explains that the Clinton administration willingly permitted China to obtain the technology necessary for this giant leap forward. In part this was due to Clinton’s globalist view of international relations, where "multipolarity" -- the notion that a balance of power among nations is preferable to the existence of a single superpower -- is the ideal Putin talked about that in the 2007 speech I posted last night. The US moved away from "multipolarity" after they gave away military secrets to China which I'm sure they shared with the Russians. The fact that Russian SAM technology is so far ahead of NATO should be a clear indication of that, and exactly why they shouldn't try to BULLY Russia and China. |
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°Lucy° User ID: 59967356 Germany 08/03/2014 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 German reporter in Donetsk: Dirk Emmerich ‏@DEmmerich 1 Min. #Donetsk Schwere Explosionen in den Vororten. Gefechte gehen weiter. Erschütterungen bis in unser Hotel im Zentrum zu spüren. #Ukraine translated: Heavy explosions in the outskirts, fighting presumes. Our hotel in town centre is shaking. for those interested, here his twitter [link to twitter.com (secure)] Last Edited by °Lucy° on 08/03/2014 05:58 PM "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1342668 Canada 08/03/2014 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ITAR-TASS ‏@itass_en 29 min. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Russian TV channel Zvezda journalists come under fire at checkpoint on border with Ukraine [link to en.itar-tass.com] from the article Earlier on Sunday, observers from the OSCE came under shelling during their work at this checkpoint. A shell fired during combat operations on the adjacent Ukrainian territory exploded at the Gukovo checkpoint. The OSCE confirmed that the Gukovo checkpoint had come under shelling. |
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°Lucy° User ID: 59967356 Germany 08/03/2014 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 There is a video which supp. confirms a ukrainian BUK set up on 16th of july in the area where the plane went down. its all over twitter, but can't be posted here. Videography Ukrainian army confirms `Bukov` near collapse of Boeing #MH17 #Ukraine Last Edited by °Lucy° on 08/03/2014 06:13 PM "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
°Lucy° User ID: 59967356 Germany 08/03/2014 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ..never mind... sry... Last Edited by °Lucy° on 08/03/2014 06:25 PM "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59284360 Poland 08/03/2014 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 How do You think? Will USA support Kiev in an assault on Crimea? UKR are gathering forces near Crimea all they need to push on Crimea is : a) victory with Novorossiya b) deafeat with Novorossiya It is imminent :/ UKR economy is in a serious collapse, poroshenko making mobilisation is speading the process. If they win in Novorossiya then they will hope, that Russians counter attack would stop at Novorossiya. Russia would create new country and Ukr. oligarchs could keep their power. All the economy collapse would be blamed on Russians. If they lose in Novorossiya then there is a problem, that Russian counter force with the militia could not stop at Novorossiya but move further and faster into Ukraine, taking more land for the new country. And if Obama shows weaknes like he does now, mayby Russians even take Kiev, replace the PM and President - control Ukraine and the new Country next to it. Why the assault on Crimea is imminent? Kiev thinks that when they assault Crimea, they can say to the world "we are only trying to take back part of our land"... and that everyone will believe this. They will spin a lot of propaganda, showing destroyed infrastructure and economy by Russians. They think that NATO will support Ukraine so current UKR elite will still be in power. Also they believe that when Russia creates new country within Ukraine, UE and NATO will allow Ukraine to join.... They believe the West will rebuild their economy and fill their pockets. A lot of beliefs on UKR side, but they are against the wall. If war fails > they fail If economy fails > war fails > they fail I give it month tops, nobody wants a war in winter. |
KFinn User ID: 55865398 Australia 08/03/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 4 min. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Great documentary. with eng. subs [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] … This is possibly the best doco I've seen on what's happening on the ground in Eastern Ukraine. I especially like it because it's coming from the perspective of the Eastern Ukrainian locals. In my opinion it is untouched by MSM and political propaganda from either side. It is what it is. It would be very unwise for Russia to move in until the people in the West can see for themselves what is going on with more videos like this one. When you connect this video with the forced conscriptions and Poroshenko's latest temper tantrum about the need to form his government to fit in with his agenda, then a clear picture of reality on the ground is formed. I completely understand Ukraine's desire for a independent and sovereign nation but the path they are heading towards is far worse than the one they were on. The people in power have a complete disregards for ethnic minorities - not just the ethnic Russians. They are running into the arms of the IMF and the World Bank. If they really knew what those two institutions represent, they wouldn't go anywhere near them. The second they receive money from the IMF and the World Bank they will have completely sold out their sovereignty. The IMF have their eyes on Ukraine's Agricultural Industry and if they get it the Ukrainian's will once again risk another famine. They will no longer have ownership of their own food. This will be bad for the whole of Ukraine. Havent watched it yet ... but wanted to empathise that I agree with Finns last lines !!! She is spot-on-damn-right !!!! xxxK Thanks Krispy. :) For the latest on the Ukraine Crisis - automatically updated every 15 mins. [link to www.rebelmouse.com (secure)] |