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Earlier this year Iranian officials, unsolicited, issued President Putin a very frank warning regarding the power of American financial and economical sanctions - do not underestimate the American's global reach and influence. The WSJ article below explains the Iranians warnings to the Kremlin. [link to blogs.wsj.com]

Iranian Officials Warn Russia Not to Dismiss U.S. Sanctions Threat


TEHRAN — Russian President Vladimir Putin has belittled the threat of more American sanctions over the crisis in Ukraine. But Iranian officials and businessmen are privately warning the Kremlin not to be so dismissive.

Government technocrats and bankers in Tehran, during interviews over the past week, voiced astonishment over just how much damage the U.S-led sanctions campaign on Iran has had on their economy over the past three years.

Many said they had initially believed that a large oil-producing country like Iran — or Russia for that matter — would largely be immune to Western financial penalties. They said they didn’t believe European countries would back up Washington’s economic threats, due to the energy supplies and corporate profits they stood to lose.

These Iranians said they had been mistaken, and that Russia should be worried.

“The U.S. sanctions are vicious because they largely just targeted our banks,” said a senior Iranian banker. “The Americans essentially forced businesses to choose between doing business in dollars or dealing with Iran. That’s a no-brainer for most.”

The Obama administration says they’re looking to fashion a financial war on Russia from lessons they’ve learned from Iran over the past three years.
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Earlier this year Iranian officials, unsolicited, issued President Putin a very frank warning regarding the power of American financial and economical sanctions - do not underestimate the American's global reach and influence. The WSJ article below explains the Iranians warnings to the Kremlin. [link to blogs.wsj.com]

Iranian Officials Warn Russia Not to Dismiss U.S. Sanctions Threat


TEHRAN — Russian President Vladimir Putin has belittled the threat of more American sanctions over the crisis in Ukraine. But Iranian officials and businessmen are privately warning the Kremlin not to be so dismissive.

Government technocrats and bankers in Tehran, during interviews over the past week, voiced astonishment over just how much damage the U.S-led sanctions campaign on Iran has had on their economy over the past three years.

Many said they had initially believed that a large oil-producing country like Iran — or Russia for that matter — would largely be immune to Western financial penalties. They said they didn’t believe European countries would back up Washington’s economic threats, due to the energy supplies and corporate profits they stood to lose.

These Iranians said they had been mistaken, and that Russia should be worried.

“The U.S. sanctions are vicious because they largely just targeted our banks,” said a senior Iranian banker. “The Americans essentially forced businesses to choose between doing business in dollars or dealing with Iran. That’s a no-brainer for most.”

The Obama administration says they’re looking to fashion a financial war on Russia from lessons they’ve learned from Iran over the past three years.
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We will eat your bolshevik flesh since you claim you are human, and you will be assimilated in our digestive systems.
Resistance is futile!

The truth must be known at last. We came on your planet over a 1000 years ago. Before that we have been searching the Universe for some human flesh, because it is human flesh we crave for. We found none of it, until some Jewish Rabi have contacted us trough a technologically assisted prayer, and informed us, (for a certain future payment, of course) that the only planet where the God decided to plant humans was Earth, and that they themselves, the Jews are not exactly human, for they have a different soul and are very poisonous, so, that in the end they are real lousy food, not really what we were looking for, more over they are only few, if we decide you eliminate the venom by long cooking times, and by avoiding the bile. So we came.
But when we did, all here claimed to be a noxious meal...
So, we stetted in the ands of modern Ukraine, but didn't dear to openly reveal the name of our mother-planet. All this time we were trying to figure out who was worth for food, and waiting for our leader to catch up with us on your planet. When he came in flesh as BaNDERA, we know that already who were the best food, --- members of the NKVD,.. but they were few... :(

You can already see how the story was to develop later. to bring us to this moment.
They is so much food now!
Resistance is futile!
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Will sanctions work against Russia? Iran’s experience offers a few clues. [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

When the United States first threatened Russia with sanctions in April, Iranian officials reportedly cautioned the Kremlin against ignoring the American warnings. Having experienced the effect of such restrictions on their own country, the Iranians apparently advised Russia not to underestimate the possible impact.

This week, the United States and the European Union imposed their strictest sanctions yet on Russia. Nevertheless, Russian officials seem confident that their nation would weather the storm. The most important questions now are: How long and how many measures will it take for Russia to feel the pressure? And even if the effects become visible — how much pressure will it take for Russia to change its policy on Ukraine? The Iranian example could be illuminating.

There are some obvious similarities between Iran and Russia: Oil is an important source of revenue for both countries, and they behaved similarly confident when the danger of tougher sanctions loomed. In 2009, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called U.S. sanctions "childish"; Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the United States earlier this year, saying that sanctions would be "harmful to the national long-term strategic interests of the American state, the American people."
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Maybe you are on the wrong forum. GLP has historically been pro-Putin and anti-NWO. It hardly makes sense come to a anti-NWO conspiracy forum and call its members, "pro-Russian propaganda trolls."

Maybe you are looking for a friendly forum for your pro-West, NWO politics like the Huffington post.

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GLP is first and foremost pro-American values.
Freedom and liberty being the most important of those.

Well geez. Who can argue with pro-American values?

Corrupt politicians, president with photoshopped history, Patriot Law which allow the government to indefinitely detain citizens without warrant, without legal council, and without trial. Govt murdering people for running stop signs. GMO slow kill food. Slow kill vacinations, chemtrails, rampant financial fraud, I could go on for ten pages.



Putin does not represent freedom and liberty.

Quite obviously, neither does the US government, and neither does the Anglo-American-Israeli NWO.



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61126823

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The point being, Americans came to a continent to claim their own freedom, liberty and pursue their own happiness. It is in American DNA and it's why America is the greatest nation on earth.
Yes, a lot of bad stuff happens when their is too much power concentrated in a government focused on military and economic dominance.
But I trust the American people to keep fighting for their constitutional rights.

I would never trust any Russian to do such a thing. Ever.

And that's all I need to know if it comes to choosing between Russia and USA as to in which people I place my faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61126823


The USA you are talking about won't long exist. It will be predominately Latina and non-Anglo, because of mass, government sponsored illegal immigration. Putin isn't sending in the illegals, cowboy, it your own government. In fact Putin often warns the West it is committing cultural suicide.

So lets re-frame for clarity. The same "government," waging a decisive demographic cultural war against your OLD America is also seeking a decisive nuclear confrontation with Russia/Putin.

Geez. Cowboy. It looks like you and Putin have a common enemy. And John Titor was right.

Wake up and smell the coffee.
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UkrEmb in Jordan ‏@UaEmbJordan 51 Sek.
#NSC: situation in the conflict zone in Eastern #Ukraine at 12:00 August 4,2014 pic.twitter.com/sEcFu6LICM
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The Pro-Russian mercenaries have lost an enormous amount of territory since this conflict started.
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Yes, and the Ukrainian government has lost an enormous amount of popular support. Have any facts about the growing anti-war movement and draft-resisting?

I heard in some places in W. Ukraine it is up to 95% rejection of conscription and the government has to capture draft age young men in parks and supermarkets to try to maintain their army.

What say you? Oh. I know. You just read the news like everyone else and pick and choose according to your emotional investment in the civil war.

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Here is a report from a german couple who was spending some time to visit family in Ukraine

[link to translate.google.de (secure)]

During our stay, the third wave of mobilization was proclaimed and put into effect. As I previously reported, the villages are now "scouring" to collect the men for the war. At that time there was a report from the region Sumi, but only 2 days after our departure, the city where we were, surrounded and now the drafted men be collected. The son of my wife now has the luck, not belonging to the group of persons liable for military service because he is retired for health reasons. ("White TIKET") But he could see how the men were taken away from the building of the "military" live.

In short, the people have the "snout" full to the brim and wish ardently that the nightmare is over. (Positive of course) ... they just want to live in peace, without fear, hatred and violence ... The people experience day every day, as members are being assigned in this war and that the members of which only come back in the coffins.


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GLP is first and foremost pro-American values.
Freedom and liberty being the most important of those.

Well geez. Who can argue with pro-American values?

Corrupt politicians, president with photoshopped history, Patriot Law which allow the government to indefinitely detain citizens without warrant, without legal council, and without trial. Govt murdering people for running stop signs. GMO slow kill food. Slow kill vacinations, chemtrails, rampant financial fraud, I could go on for ten pages.



Putin does not represent freedom and liberty.

Quite obviously, neither does the US government, and neither does the Anglo-American-Israeli NWO.



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61126823

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60299016


The point being, Americans came to a continent to claim their own freedom, liberty and pursue their own happiness. It is in American DNA and it's why America is the greatest nation on earth.
Yes, a lot of bad stuff happens when their is too much power concentrated in a government focused on military and economic dominance.
But I trust the American people to keep fighting for their constitutional rights.

I would never trust any Russian to do such a thing. Ever.

And that's all I need to know if it comes to choosing between Russia and USA as to in which people I place my faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61126823


The USA you are talking about won't long exist. It will be predominately Latina and non-Anglo, because of mass, government sponsored illegal immigration. Putin isn't sending in the illegals, cowboy, it your own government. In fact Putin often warns the West it is committing cultural suicide.

So lets re-frame for clarity. The same "government," waging a decisive demographic cultural war against your OLD America is also seeking a decisive nuclear confrontation with Russia/Putin.

Geez. Cowboy. It looks like you and Putin have a common enemy. And John Titor was right.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60299016


This is exactly correct. It's probably the case that not enough people will rise up against the system b/c things are 'too good' from the perspective of the welfare state, until it's too late (ebola virus, martial law, collapsed commerce, etc.). USA is in the end stages, unless things turn around now. Somehow I don't see it happening. It's not just Obama. Seems like the entire system has been infiltrated and subverted. I mourn for my child. I don't have a target, from where I am at my home. The break has to come from within the existing systemic structure.

I would say furthermore that all of our sworn officers, whether military, elected official, or police, are either cowards or complicit. In both cases, they have no honor.

My apologies for posting something that is not related to this thread, but I felt it appropriate to respond to the previous two posters.
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Sanctions against Russia starts to backfire hard.
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Losses for Ukr army

The Figures Include:

2,590 extremists of the Right Sector, for the most part, who joined the so-called “National Guard” (sic). Major General Sergei Kulchitsky, head of combat training of the “National Guard” (sic), was killed near Slavyansk, Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Novorossiya (SRN), on 29 May 2014. Colonel Radievsky, commander of the Chernigov Battalion of the “National Guard” (sic), was killed in Lisichansk, Lugansk People’s Republic (LNR), SRN, on 21 July 2014. Lieutenant Colonel Snitsar, the commander of the Kirovograd Battalion of the “National Guard” (sic), was killed in Lisichansk, LNR, SRN, on 23 July 2014.

2,150 domestic mercenaries from I V Kolomoisky’s “battalions”)

115 SBU officers (Sumy Alpha Group completely destroyed, other Alpha Groups from Kiev, Poltava, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankovsk, Lvov, Rovno, Lutsk, Volyn, Vinnitsa, and Zhitomir suffered heavy losses)

334 foreign mercenaries, including:

“ASBS Othago” (Polish PMC) had 139 losses
“Greystone” (American PMC) had 44 losses
“Academi” (American PMC, known as “Blackwater” until 2009) had 125 losses
Baltic female snipers had 26 losses
200 troops of the 95 Airmobile Brigade (Zhitomir)

480 troops of the 25 Airmobile Brigade (Dnepropetrovsk)

480 troops of the 79 Airmobile Brigade (Nikolayev)

490 troops of the 24 Mechanised Brigade (Yavorov, Lvov Oblast)

190 troops of the 80 Airmobile Regiment (Lvov)

70 troops of the 3 Spetsnaz Regiment (Kirovograd)

30 troops of the 8 Spetsnaz Regiment (Khmelnitsky)

10 troops of the 10 Separate Brigade of the Spetsnaz of the GRU of the Minoborony Ukrainy (Kiev)

190 troops of the 93 Mechanised Brigade (Cherkasskoe, Novomoskovsk Raion, Dnepropetrovsk Oblast)

360 troops of the 72 Mechanised Brigade (Belaya Tserkov, Kiev Oblast)

110 troops of the 28 Separate Guards Mechanised Brigade (Chernomorskoe, Kominternov Raion, Odessa Oblast)

100 troops of the 128 Mountain-Infantry Brigade (Mukačevo, Zakarpatskaya Oblast)

100 troops from territorial defence battalions

80 troops of the 1 Tank Brigade (Goncharovskoe, Chernigov Oblast)

55 troops of the Lugansk border detachment

55 troops of the Donetsk border detachment

30 troops of the 51 Army Aviation Brigade of the “National Guard” (sic) (Aleksandriya, Kirovograd Oblast)

35 troops of the 16 Army Aviation Brigade (Brody, Lvov Oblast)

40 troops of the 831 Combat Aviation Brigade (Mirgorod, Poltava Oblast)

5 troops of the 114 Tactical Aviation Brigade (Ivano-Frankovsk, Ivano-Frankovsk Oblast)

30 troops of the 299 Combat Aviation Brigade (Nikolayev)

9 troops of the 25 Air Transport Brigade (Melitopol, Zaporozhe Oblast), Il-76 crewmembers

5 troops killed in the shootdown of an An-30 recon aircraft near Chuguev (Kharkov Oblast) on 6 June 2014

25 CIA officers and FBI agents (13 killed, 12 wounded)

50 MVDU personnel

******
DESTROYED EQUIPMENT
1 unknown aircraft downed on 30 July 2014
2 An-26 aircraft
1 An-30 reconnaissance aircraft
2 Il-76 transport aircraft
16 Su-25 attack aircraft + 1 more Su-25 captured in the LNR on 7 July 2014
7 Su-24 aircraft
5 drones
19 combat helicopters (Mi-8/17/24)
185 T-64 tanks
7 T-72 tanks
1 “Bulat” tank
5 Hummers
1 Jeep
19 GAZ-66 trucks
1 staff vehicle
1 mobile crane
1 ZIL-131 trucks
26 Ural trucks
29 Kamaz trucks
3 UAZ-469 off-road vehicles
3 Nona self-propelled mortars
2 2S3 Akatsiya self-propelled howitzers
2 ZU-23-2 towed anti-aircraft twin-barrelled autocannons
8 truck-mounted Grad multiple rocket launchers
6 Uragan self-propelled multiple rocket launcher systems
23 D-30 howitzers
17 122 mm mortars
103 BMP infantry fighting vehicles
94 BMD amphibious infantry fighting vehicles
211 BTR armoured personnel carriers

SOURCE:
Igor Panarin, political scientist, PhD in Psychology, Doctor of Political Sciences, member of the Academy of Military Sciences. Member of the Scientific and Methodological Council of the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation, a member of the Expert Council Committee on CIS Affairs of the RF Federation Council.
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The point being, Americans came to a continent to claim their own freedom, liberty and pursue their own happiness. It is in American DNA and it's why America is the greatest nation on earth.
Yes, a lot of bad stuff happens when their is too much power concentrated in a government focused on military and economic dominance.
But I trust the American people to keep fighting for their constitutional rights.

I would never trust any Russian to do such a thing. Ever.

And that's all I need to know if it comes to choosing between Russia and USA as to in which people I place my faith.
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The USA you are talking about won't long exist. It will be predominately Latina and non-Anglo, because of mass, government sponsored illegal immigration. Putin isn't sending in the illegals, cowboy, it your own government. In fact Putin often warns the West it is committing cultural suicide.

So lets re-frame for clarity. The same "government," waging a decisive demographic cultural war against your OLD America is also seeking a decisive nuclear confrontation with Russia/Putin.

Geez. Cowboy. It looks like you and Putin have a common enemy. And John Titor was right.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60299016


This is exactly correct. It's probably the case that not enough people will rise up against the system b/c things are 'too good' from the perspective of the welfare state, until it's too late (ebola virus, martial law, collapsed commerce, etc.). USA is in the end stages, unless things turn around now. Somehow I don't see it happening. It's not just Obama. Seems like the entire system has been infiltrated and subverted. I mourn for my child. I don't have a target, from where I am at my home. The break has to come from within the existing systemic structure.

I would say furthermore that all of our sworn officers, whether military, elected official, or police, are either cowards or complicit. In both cases, they have no honor.

My apologies for posting something that is not related to this thread, but I felt it appropriate to respond to the previous two posters.
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Will sanctions work against Russia? Iran’s experience offers a few clues. [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

When the United States first threatened Russia with sanctions in April, Iranian officials reportedly cautioned the Kremlin against ignoring the American warnings. Having experienced the effect of such restrictions on their own country, the Iranians apparently advised Russia not to underestimate the possible impact.

This week, the United States and the European Union imposed their strictest sanctions yet on Russia. Nevertheless, Russian officials seem confident that their nation would weather the storm. The most important questions now are: How long and how many measures will it take for Russia to feel the pressure? And even if the effects become visible — how much pressure will it take for Russia to change its policy on Ukraine? The Iranian example could be illuminating.

There are some obvious similarities between Iran and Russia: Oil is an important source of revenue for both countries, and they behaved similarly confident when the danger of tougher sanctions loomed. In 2009, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called U.S. sanctions "childish"; Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the United States earlier this year, saying that sanctions would be "harmful to the national long-term strategic interests of the American state, the American people."
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Losses for Ukr army


9,321 dead and wounded
20 hostage
6,340 deserters


The Figures Include:

2,590 extremists of the Right Sector, for the most part, who joined the so-called “National Guard” (sic). Major General Sergei Kulchitsky, head of combat training of the “National Guard” (sic), was killed near Slavyansk, Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Novorossiya (SRN), on 29 May 2014. Colonel Radievsky, commander of the Chernigov Battalion of the “National Guard” (sic), was killed in Lisichansk, Lugansk People’s Republic (LNR), SRN, on 21 July 2014. Lieutenant Colonel Snitsar, the commander of the Kirovograd Battalion of the “National Guard” (sic), was killed in Lisichansk, LNR, SRN, on 23 July 2014.

2,150 domestic mercenaries from I V Kolomoisky’s “battalions”)

115 SBU officers (Sumy Alpha Group completely destroyed, other Alpha Groups from Kiev, Poltava, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankovsk, Lvov, Rovno, Lutsk, Volyn, Vinnitsa, and Zhitomir suffered heavy losses)

334 foreign mercenaries, including:

“ASBS Othago” (Polish PMC) had 139 losses
“Greystone” (American PMC) had 44 losses
“Academi” (American PMC, known as “Blackwater” until 2009) had 125 losses
Baltic female snipers had 26 losses
200 troops of the 95 Airmobile Brigade (Zhitomir)

480 troops of the 25 Airmobile Brigade (Dnepropetrovsk)

480 troops of the 79 Airmobile Brigade (Nikolayev)

490 troops of the 24 Mechanised Brigade (Yavorov, Lvov Oblast)

190 troops of the 80 Airmobile Regiment (Lvov)

70 troops of the 3 Spetsnaz Regiment (Kirovograd)

30 troops of the 8 Spetsnaz Regiment (Khmelnitsky)

10 troops of the 10 Separate Brigade of the Spetsnaz of the GRU of the Minoborony Ukrainy (Kiev)

190 troops of the 93 Mechanised Brigade (Cherkasskoe, Novomoskovsk Raion, Dnepropetrovsk Oblast)

360 troops of the 72 Mechanised Brigade (Belaya Tserkov, Kiev Oblast)

110 troops of the 28 Separate Guards Mechanised Brigade (Chernomorskoe, Kominternov Raion, Odessa Oblast)

100 troops of the 128 Mountain-Infantry Brigade (Mukačevo, Zakarpatskaya Oblast)

100 troops from territorial defence battalions

80 troops of the 1 Tank Brigade (Goncharovskoe, Chernigov Oblast)

55 troops of the Lugansk border detachment

55 troops of the Donetsk border detachment

30 troops of the 51 Army Aviation Brigade of the “National Guard” (sic) (Aleksandriya, Kirovograd Oblast)

35 troops of the 16 Army Aviation Brigade (Brody, Lvov Oblast)

40 troops of the 831 Combat Aviation Brigade (Mirgorod, Poltava Oblast)

5 troops of the 114 Tactical Aviation Brigade (Ivano-Frankovsk, Ivano-Frankovsk Oblast)

30 troops of the 299 Combat Aviation Brigade (Nikolayev)

9 troops of the 25 Air Transport Brigade (Melitopol, Zaporozhe Oblast), Il-76 crewmembers

5 troops killed in the shootdown of an An-30 recon aircraft near Chuguev (Kharkov Oblast) on 6 June 2014

25 CIA officers and FBI agents (13 killed, 12 wounded)

50 MVDU personnel

******
DESTROYED EQUIPMENT
1 unknown aircraft downed on 30 July 2014
2 An-26 aircraft
1 An-30 reconnaissance aircraft
2 Il-76 transport aircraft
16 Su-25 attack aircraft + 1 more Su-25 captured in the LNR on 7 July 2014
7 Su-24 aircraft
5 drones
19 combat helicopters (Mi-8/17/24)
185 T-64 tanks
7 T-72 tanks
1 “Bulat” tank
5 Hummers
1 Jeep
19 GAZ-66 trucks
1 staff vehicle
1 mobile crane
1 ZIL-131 trucks
26 Ural trucks
29 Kamaz trucks
3 UAZ-469 off-road vehicles
3 Nona self-propelled mortars
2 2S3 Akatsiya self-propelled howitzers
2 ZU-23-2 towed anti-aircraft twin-barrelled autocannons
8 truck-mounted Grad multiple rocket launchers
6 Uragan self-propelled multiple rocket launcher systems
23 D-30 howitzers
17 122 mm mortars
103 BMP infantry fighting vehicles
94 BMD amphibious infantry fighting vehicles
211 BTR armoured personnel carriers

SOURCE:
Igor Panarin, political scientist, PhD in Psychology, Doctor of Political Sciences, member of the Academy of Military Sciences. Member of the Scientific and Methodological Council of the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation, a member of the Expert Council Committee on CIS Affairs of the RF Federation Council.
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Will sanctions work against Russia? Iran’s experience offers a few clues. [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

When the United States first threatened Russia with sanctions in April, Iranian officials reportedly cautioned the Kremlin against ignoring the American warnings. Having experienced the effect of such restrictions on their own country, the Iranians apparently advised Russia not to underestimate the possible impact.

This week, the United States and the European Union imposed their strictest sanctions yet on Russia. Nevertheless, Russian officials seem confident that their nation would weather the storm. The most important questions now are: How long and how many measures will it take for Russia to feel the pressure? And even if the effects become visible — how much pressure will it take for Russia to change its policy on Ukraine? The Iranian example could be illuminating.

There are some obvious similarities between Iran and Russia: Oil is an important source of revenue for both countries, and they behaved similarly confident when the danger of tougher sanctions loomed. In 2009, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called U.S. sanctions "childish"; Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized the United States earlier this year, saying that sanctions would be "harmful to the national long-term strategic interests of the American state, the American people."
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That's another huge problem for both Ukraine and Russia -> lots of traitors. Especially ones who left their country.
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9,321 dead and wounded
20 hostage
6,340 deserters



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6,340 deserters!!!!!

Wow! I guess that one number even by half refutes all popular war bull shit of the Ukie shills.
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#NSC: situation in the conflict zone in Eastern #Ukraine at 12:00 August 4,2014 pic.twitter.com/sEcFu6LICM
 Quoting: °Lucy°


The Pro-Russian mercenaries have lost an enormous amount of territory since this conflict started.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


Yes. They have lost 75% of what they started with.
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#Ukraine 93th Brigade SMERCH/GRAD Commander interrogation (captured ?!) confirm fired 2 Donetsk & Gorlovka !?!
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Losses for Ukr army


9,321 dead and wounded
20 hostage
6,340 deserters



 Quoting: mkane

 Quoting: mkane


6,340 deserters!!!!!

Wow! I guess that one number even by half refutes all popular war bull shit of the Ukie shills.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60299016


Of course those numbers are completely fabricated.



{25 CIA agents and FBI?}
-LOL!

{“Academi” (American PMC, known as “Blackwater” until 2009) had 125 losses,}
-LOL!

{2,590 extremists of the Right Sector}
-when they dont even have but about 100 fighters in ATO to begin with LOL!




LOL whatever Russian liars.

WHO exactly do you think you are fooling with this nonsense? WHO? Not anyone outside Russia. Are you fooling other Russians?
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I want my vocation in Barcelona,--screams a russiam woman when the flight from Moscow to Barcelona had been canceled due to the 'complications' due to the imposed suctions.
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Mass defections oe propaganda?

over 400 Ukranian troops flee to Russia according to this report:

[link to rt.com]

"More than 400 Ukrainian troops have been allowed to cross into Russia on Sunday night after they requested sanctuary, Russian border guards reported.

According to the Rostov Region’s border guard spokesman Vasily Malaev, a total of 438 soldiers, including 164 Ukrainian border guards, have been allowed into Russia. "


50% rule.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45536772


Remember the post about the "NEGOTIATIONS (negot.) between Rebels and UK-Army" that some didnt wanted to believe and even ridiculed ?

Rock Solid Politics ‏@BradCabana 1 min
BREAKING NAF negot. surrender of 1500 of the best #Ukraine troops - price: 60-70 artillery; GRAD, upto 30 tanks, APC,BTR,small arms #cdnpoli
 Quoting: Falter


I'm calling :bsflag

This was posted 2 hours ago and there's still no update. This would be huge news, but there's no followup, no other sources.
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


The word is "negotiating" as in an ongoing process.
Those regime soldiers either agree to surrender or they end up spread out in a thousand little pieces like those poor bastards in Shaktersk.
 Quoting: Babay


Except he didn't say "negotiating".
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


yes he did, "negot." is short for "negotiating"
 Quoting: Babay


It could also have meant negotiated, but we don't know since nothing else was posted on the subject, and he hasn't clarified.

Therefor, until we hear anything further, it's :bsflag
 Quoting: hIndsIght2020


@multiple sources:

Blocked UAF units in Luhansk oblast are negotiating terms of surrender to NAF militia.
@gazeta.ru
 Quoting: A Russian


DONETSK, August 3 (RIA Novosti) – A besieged garrison of Ukrainian soldiers and special forces in the south of the Luhansk region started negotiating conditions of their surrender with local independence supporters, a representative of the militia told RIA Novosti Sunday.

“They have run out of combat rations, water and fuel and they have small arms to last only a couple of days. They have started negotiating.

<50% [link to en.ria.ru]

 Quoting: RTS REDUX


 Quoting: earlier quotes




Well this article confirms exactly that !!


On Sunday, the Ukrainian anti-government militia reported that it was in negotiations with a large contingent of Ukrainian troops they encircled in Lugansk region on a possible surrender. The negotiations were being hampered by the troops’ intention to destroy some 70 armored vehicles in their possession before laying down arms, which the militia wanted to capture intact.

The Gukovo border checkpoint, through which the Ukrainian troops crossed into the Russian territory, is located on Russia’s border with the Lugansk Region of Ukraine, indicating that these are the same troops that were negotiating with the militia. If so, it was not immediately clear whether the vehicles they had were really destroyed.



@ hIndsIght2020 ----> taunter
Sorry mate you were wrong to BS this ...lol...


xxxK


EDITED >>>> To add that it is scrupulous and respectless how these UKr-Army troops have been treated by their superiors ... expelling them from food, drink and supplies and then punish them for treason ...
In UKRAINE and Kiev's eyes they are only pions and war-meat ...

I dont hate those poor soldiers [most of them not even knowing against who or why they are fighting...], but I hate the government !!!!

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#Ukraine 93th Brigade SMERCH/GRAD Commander interrogation (captured ?!) confirm fired 2 Donetsk & Gorlovka !?!
[link to youtu.be]
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Forced video confessions of POW's (who've obviously been tortured as well) are a violation of the Geneva Conventions, are of course not indicative of true guilt, and just yet more indications of the terroristic and morally absent nature of the Russians that Ukraine is dealing with.
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Ukraine Still Not Accepting Russia’s Humanitarian Aid for Donbas – Emergencies Ministry

MOSCOW, August 4 (RIA Novosti) – Ukraine is still not accepting Russia’s humanitarian aid for citizens of the southeastern regions targeted by a military operation, Russian Deputy Emergency Situations Minister Vladimir Artamonov said Monday.

“There is so far no reaction [from Ukraine] concerning the humanitarian aid. The assistance we are currently rendering is aimed at refugees that are already on Russian territory,” Artamonov said.

<50% [link to en.ria.ru]
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AJSB &#8207;@A_J_S_B 2 Min.
VIDEO:
#Ukraine 93th Brigade SMERCH/GRAD Commander interrogation (captured ?!) confirm fired 2 Donetsk & Gorlovka !?!
[link to youtu.be]
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Forced video confessions of POW's (who've obviously been tortured as well) are a violation of the Geneva Conventions, are of course not indicative of true guilt, and just yet more indications of the terroristic and morally absent nature of the Russians that Ukraine is dealing with.
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s226bsflagpropoganda
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Ukraine's destruction and Europe's 'foolhardy' promises of financial help
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#Ukraine: #Crimea fighter jets put back together to enter service with Air Force: [link to airheadsfly.com] … #MiG29 #Fulcrum
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How World Bank & IMF Plan to “Dismantle” Ukrainian Economy


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ATO forces have begun liberating Donetsk from the North after encircling the city.


NSDC of Ukraine @NSDC_ua
ATO forces have liberated Yasynuvata.


NSDC of Ukraine @NSDC_ua
5 Ukrainian soldiers have died in the last 24 hours, and 14 more have been wounded
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887


@ AndrijUKR
Lyashko just said that Batallion Azov & Shakhtarsk started to clean Donetsk from terrorists



#ATO forces took control over Yasynuvata, #Donetsk reg/ - important railway point [link to mediarnbo.org]
[link to twitter.com (secure)]


This is also very close to Vostok Battalion HQ which is here- [link to maps.google.com (secure)]
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Interpol searching for 27 former Ukrainian officials

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Russia to conduct military exercises near Ukraine border

[link to www.itv.com]
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Russia to conduct military exercises with 100 aircraft near Ukraine

[link to sundiatapost.com]

aircraft such as Su-27 and MiG-31 fighter jets, Russia’s newest frontline bomber Su-34, and Mi-8, Mi-24 and Mi-28N helicopters would be used in the exercises and the aircraft would conduct missile practice.

The exercises were planned for Aug. 4-8.
 Quoting: °Lucy°


A possible "show-off" and "to impose" ?
Or to "be there" (security) already when/if the fire hits the pan completely ?


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remember him?

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nice message to all the pro-Russian propaganda trolls ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61150993


Maybe you are on the wrong forum. GLP has historically been pro-Putin and anti-NWO. It hardly makes sense come to a anti-NWO conspiracy forum and call its members, "pro-Russian propaganda trolls."

Maybe you are looking for a friendly forum for your pro-West, NWO politics like the Huffington post.

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