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UKRAINE: Did The Winter War Just Begin? Russian Gas Supplies To Europe Plunge 15%, Ukraine Transit Slashed 54%!!!p6194

 
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There were no "crimes" committed by either Russia or Germany. One people's crime is other people's glorious victory. There is no crime where there is no law, and there is no law above a sovereign.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55757327

The above is an all-too-common view in the Russian empire:

- Disdainful contempt for peace, freedom, law, equality, and democracy

- Approval of war, dictatorship, oppression, serfdom, and genocide

- Admiration for Genghis Khan, Ivan the Terrible, Joseph Stalin, and Adolf Hitler

- Yearning for the rise of a "worthy" successor to such men.

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No nation in the west has annexed any foreign territory or caused border changes by military force since WWII.
Russia has now.

The west is not waging war against any nation in Europe.
Russia is.

It will not be allowed to pass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57590262

Hey nazi German. Speak for your country only.

No Greek will ever fight against our Russian brothers for the murderers of USA and their puppet allies
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60547088


And when Russian boots start stomping on you and your family you will be one of the 1st calling for help from NATO
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Would you be so kind as to remind us when was the last time "Russian boots were stomping" on the Greek land?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60326820


It was Metaphorical, Seeing as Greece is part of NATO

should said If...

But who knows whats going to happen any NATO country could be a Target in the event of a war same as any Russian Friendly country could be a target of the west

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The comment from another place.
It pretty much says all about hypocrisy of the 'west'!

The Europeans with their kind and avantgarde culture now dont remember anything. They colonized half of the world under the brutal force of the gun. In india at Jaliawala bagh british soldiers shot at 10,000 women and children because they wanted to be free. Why do you think people in brazil speak portuguese and people in africa speak french . Their native cultures were raped by the european elite. Not the Tsars

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The comment from another place.
It pretty much says all about hypocrisy of the 'west'!

The Europeans with their kind and avantgarde culture now dont remember anything. They colonized half of the world under the brutal force of the gun. In india at Jaliawala bagh british soldiers shot at 10,000 women and children because they wanted to be free. Why do you think people in brazil speak portuguese and people in africa speak french . Their native cultures were raped by the european elite. Not the Tsars

youknow clappa
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There were no "crimes" committed by either Russia or Germany. One people's crime is other people's glorious victory. There is no crime where there is no law, and there is no law above a sovereign.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55757327

The above is an all-too-common view in the Russian empire:

- Disdainful contempt for peace, freedom, law, equality, and democracy

- Approval of war, dictatorship, oppression, serfdom, and genocide

- Admiration for Genghis Khan, Ivan the Terrible, Joseph Stalin, and Adolf Hitler

- Yearning for the rise of a "worthy" successor to such men.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


Disdainful contempt for peace, freedom, law, equality, and democracy

yep, sure, it's the US that has great deal of respect for peace...

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1. West Germany annexed East Germany.
2. NATO (Which includes Germany) caused changing the border of Serbia by the act of militarily aggression.
 Quoting: Babay

1) Germany was artificially partitioned after World War II. The two parts eventually agreed to reunite, with the agreement of all concerned parties.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

2) Yugoslavia was an artificial conglomeration of very different peoples who never wanted to live together. The Yugoslavian state disintegrated once the Soviet empire collapsed.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Kosovo's status is still disputed. Many countries treat it as a special case due to the previous well-proven Serbian genocide against Bosniaks.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


wow you mixed up everything in your little head, even kosovo with bosniaks with an imaginary genocide...
 Quoting: Babay


Babay is right, all mixed up... but I'm not going to discuss breakup of Yugoslavia in this thread.

And BTW, Wikipedia is not so accurate source for anything, it's way to simplistic and subjective
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The comment from another place.
It pretty much says all about hypocrisy of the 'west'!

The Europeans with their kind and avantgarde culture now dont remember anything. They colonized half of the world under the brutal force of the gun. In india at Jaliawala bagh british soldiers shot at 10,000 women and children because they wanted to be free. Why do you think people in brazil speak portuguese and people in africa speak french . Their native cultures were raped by the european elite. Not the Tsars

youknow clappa
 Quoting: OMEGA 61051010


Amazing, it just goes to show how bratish bully boy tactics work, still two wrongs doesn't make a right..

we should have learned by our mistakes by now, but we still are driven by power greed and dominance
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And, btw, if Russia decides to ship materiel to NAF rebels, they have absolute right to do so.
 Quoting: A Russian

No one has a "right" to start an aggressive war against another country, in violation of international law and agreement. The Russian empire is solemnly bound by the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, and good people of the world will never forget that.

Moreover, no one has a "right" to lie to the public at all. Since the Russian empire is clearly supplying arms to the rebels, it has no "right" to deny that it is doing so.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


The United States broke the Budapest Memorandum, not Russia. It was the United States that funded anti Yanukovich NGOS with $5 billion so that the democratically elected leader could be overthrown in a violent armed coup staged by radical fascists. Russia has never supplied the rebels with arms. It has never been proven that Russia has supplied a single weapon to the people of Novorussia. You Obama worshippers keep repeating this lie. It is the US that is in violation of international law because it recognizes the illegal government in Kiev, the government that they installed, their puppets. It is the US that is lying to the public. Hell, Fox News even went to the Supreme Court to get the right to lie to the public. MSNBC and CNN never complained when the court ruled that Fox had every right to lie to the public. All of these channels are US state run media. Now we have Israel violating a 72 hour cease fire by continuing to attack tunnels. When their people are killed and taken prisoner (not kidnapped, soldiers in war cannot be kidnapped), they accuse the other party of breaking the ceasefire. In US propaganda, up is down, wrong is right.
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All footage of @Ruptly video journalist @alina_eprimian is deleted, as she is deported from #Ukraine -
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bosniaks with an imaginary genocide...
 Quoting: Babay

Anyone who continues to deny the well-proven Srebrenica massacre must actually agree with that genocide and therefore shares the guilt for it.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The Srebrenica massacre, also known as the Srebrenica genocide[8][9][10][11][12][13] (Bosnian: Genocid u Srebrenici), was the genocidal July 1995 killing of more than 8,000[1][14][15][16][17] Bosniaks, mainly men and boys, in and around the town of Srebrenica during the Bosnian War. The killing was perpetrated by units of the Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) under the command of General Ratko Mladi&#263;. The Secretary-General of the United Nations described the mass murder as the worst crime on European soil since the Second World War.[2][3] A paramilitary unit from Serbia known as the Scorpions, officially part of the Serbian Interior Ministry until 1991, participated in the massacre,[6][18] along with several hundred Russian volunteers.[7][19][20]
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In 2004, in a unanimous ruling on the case of Prosecutor v. Krsti&#263;, the Appeals Chamber of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), located in The Hague, ruled that the massacre of the enclave's male inhabitants constituted genocide, a crime under international law.[25] The forcible transfer of between 25,000 to 30,000 Bosniak women, children and elderly which accompanied the massacre was found to be confirming evidence of the genocidal intent of members of the VRS Main Staff who orchestrated the massacre.[26]
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The Preliminary List of People Missing or Killed in Srebrenica compiled by the Bosnian Federal Commission of Missing Persons contains 8,373 names.[1] As of July 2012, 6,838 genocide victims have been identified through DNA analysis of body parts recovered from mass graves;[27] as of July 2013, 6,066 victims have been buried at the Memorial Centre of Poto&#269;ari.[28] Serbian President Tomislav Nikoli&#263; officially apologized for the massacre, although he stopped short of calling it genocide.
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First

More civilians in Gaza have died since the last two times Israel bombed its houses. Why isn't that the "Gaza massacre"? Or do they not count as human beings because they are brown?
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The Dutch investigators have not been at the crash site yet, but gate red information such as:

Wim van der Weegen: The investigation started right after the crash. There was an international team of air crash investigators. This team has collected a lot of information in the past two weeks. For example, data recorders, satellite information, radar information from air traffic controllers. The search at the crash site is just one part of a bigger, complex investigation.

jose nascimento &#8207;@45Zoroastro 2 Min.
Dutch investigators to RT: ‘We had no possibility to visit the #MH17 crash site’

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having said that, i will add that it is only by Ukraine and through Ukraine it can ever happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61029201

That may be what Malachi Martin was referring to. He allegedly had access to the full Third Secret of Fatima. When he was asked about the role of Russia in the messages of Fatima, he inexplicably mentioned Kyiv as well! (This was in the 1990s, when people in the West paid little attention to Ukraine.)

Listen to his comments starting at about 12:00. At 12:35, he inexplicably mentions Kyiv. (The interviewer did not mention either Kyiv or Ukraine.)



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@Jacobb_Dann @Freed0m_machine Also Air India pilots heard the order to reroute from Kiev DON'T_USE_THIS.com/lktu9vu

site down, but in cache:

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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

#BREAKING Eurocity train crashes in Germany
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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

#BREAKING Eurocity train crashes in Germany

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eeek... where?... looking for news now

ok, two trains collided near mannheim. one person heavily and 10 minor injured,
110 people where rescued out the wagons

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...

yep, sure, it's the US that has great deal of respect for peace...


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Powerful!
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@ all Russian-speaking:
Is this true? I cant read Russian.

New #Russia conspiracy theory: the CIA is zombifying residents of #Ukraine through the tap water. [link to therussiantimes.com] #soundslegit
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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

#BREAKING Eurocity train crashes in Germany

 Quoting: Luisport


eeek... where?... looking for news now
 Quoting: °Lucy°




n-tv Breaking News&#61593;Conta verificada
&#8207;@ntv_EIL Breaking News: Eurocity kollidiert mit Güterzug. Mehr gleich auf n-tv.de

Martin Ez &#8207;@Martin_Ez_ · 5 min
@ntv_EIL na gut, dann noch ein #Bierchen und um 23:00Uhr dann mal schauen &#128521;&#128077;
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@ all Russian-speaking:
Is this true? I cant read Russian.

New #Russia conspiracy theory: the CIA is zombifying residents of #Ukraine through the tap water. [link to therussiantimes.com] #soundslegit
 Quoting: Krispy71


can read it, but can't understand without translator chuckle messy translation, but gives the general Idea
[link to translate.google.de (secure)]
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Russian Market @russian_market · 1 min

#BREAKING Eurocity train crashes in Germany

 Quoting: Luisport


eeek... where?... looking for news now
 Quoting: °Lucy°




n-tv Breaking News&#61593;Conta verificada
&#8207;@ntv_EIL Breaking News: Eurocity kollidiert mit Güterzug. Mehr gleich auf n-tv.de

Martin Ez &#8207;@Martin_Ez_ · 5 min
@ntv_EIL na gut, dann noch ein #Bierchen und um 23:00Uhr dann mal schauen &#128521;&#128077;
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Thanks you Luis hf

One badly injured, 10 minor so far. 2 trains collided
[link to www.focus.de]

the air conditioner broke and two wagons which got damaged where without passengers. Without this coincidence there would have been more people injured

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The comment from another place.
It pretty much says all about hypocrisy of the 'west'!

The Europeans with their kind and avantgarde culture now dont remember anything. They colonized half of the world under the brutal force of the gun. In india at Jaliawala bagh british soldiers shot at 10,000 women and children because they wanted to be free. Why do you think people in brazil speak portuguese and people in africa speak french . Their native cultures were raped by the european elite. Not the Tsars

youknow clappa
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hesright
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#Ukraine EPIC FAIL !
*THESE* are the "EVIDENCES" of #Russia intervention in Ukraine !
DOUBLE FACEPALM

[link to youtu.be]




wtf111please1

Ridiculous Banderistan parody. I almost fell of my chair, I swear to God!
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@ all Russian-speaking:
Is this true? I cant read Russian.

New #Russia conspiracy theory: the CIA is zombifying residents of #Ukraine through the tap water. [link to therussiantimes.com] #soundslegit
 Quoting: Krispy71


yes, posted link earlier
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Babay &#8207;@Truth_Seeker_11 54 min.
In #Kiev near #Maidan unknown in balaclavas burned down a tent that had stored body armor for the ATO forces [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] …


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NEWS FLASH - UNCONFIRMED:
HUGE blast in #DONETSK !
UNCONFIRMED info says was a BALLISTIC MISSILE !
[link to youtu.be]



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Italy, Bologna, support for Donbass, support for Novorossiyan antifascists!



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BREAKING BREAKING BALISTIC MISSILE JUST HIT #DONETSK #Ukraine #Russia #cdnpoli @CNN @BBC @CBC #UN

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Rock Solid Politics &#8207;@BradCabana 3 min.
BREAKING BREAKING BALISTIC MISSILE JUST HIT #DONETSK #Ukraine #Russia #cdnpoli @CNN @BBC @CBC #UN

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AJSB &#8207;@A_J_S_B 28 min.
#Ukraine EPIC FAIL !
*THESE* are the "EVIDENCES" of #Russia intervention in Ukraine !
DOUBLE FACEPALM

[link to youtu.be]




wtf111please1

Ridiculous Banderistan parody. I almost fell of my chair, I swear to God!
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Lmao c'mon really...

you can buy that stuff of Ebay...

It would have been funny if she reached into her bag by accident and pulled something out...

Made in China
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NEWS FLASH - UNCONFIRMED:
HUGE blast in #DONETSK !
UNCONFIRMED info says was a BALLISTIC MISSILE !
[link to youtu.be]



scaredscaredscared

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 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Tockha missile? UA army is allready using them, four were intercepted two days ago by....unknowns chuckle probably Russians.

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