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RUSSIA CONSIDERING URGENT RESPONSE TO SERIOUS ESCALATION IN DONETSK
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Oooh oooh! What what??? =)
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If and when the Pols activate their reserve forces to immediate combat ready alert status - then I'll begin to follow the events more closely.
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MOSCOW, August 04. /ITAR-TASS/. Settlement of the Ukraine crisis is hardly possible as long as southeastern Ukrainians are considered terrorists and separatists, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in an interview to ITAR-TASS on Monday.
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Ukraine National Defense and Security Head resigns!


Apparently, Parubiy is just the first rat to jump the sinking ship.
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#Ukraine The Shrinking Cauldron - The Surrender of the 72nd Brigade - #NOVOROSSIYA via Gleb Bazov @gbazov [link to slavyangrad.org] …
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The article makes many interesting points.

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Also on Thursday, Putin’s very own version of Banquo’s ghost came back to haunt him from England, where a judge opened a high-level official inquiry into the 2006 radioactive poisoning death of ex-KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko. (The suspects are Russian agents, one of them now a member of Putin’s toy parliament.)
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In Eastern Ukraine, on the other hand, widespread distrust of the new pro-Western government in Kiev did not translate into separatist sentiment: in a Pew poll in April, secession was viewed as a permissible option by only 18 percent of the region’s population and 27 percent of its Russian speakers.
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The fact that the leadership of the two pseudo-republics was dominated by Russian citizens—often with ties to Russia’s “special services” and with vaguely comical backgrounds of political spin doctor or battle-reenactment hobbyist—didn’t help boost their credibility. Neither did their record of kidnappings and other thuggish actions.
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A few days ago, Kommersant columnist Andrei Kolesnikov—who, according to Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty writer Brian Whitmore, “regularly travels with Putin and is often a conduit for messages from the regime's inner sanctum to the broader elite”—wrote that Putin will cut the insurgents loose if it turns out they are definitely responsible for downing the Malaysian airplane.
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Even before the latest sanctions, there were reports, based on German intelligence sources, of a power struggle in the Kremlin between hardliners and business leaders. Early in July, a similar report of a split between “hawks” and “doves” within Russia’s power elites appeared in the Russian online newspaper Znak.com, which Russian online media analyst and Moscow Times columnist Victor Davidoff told me has connections to Kremlin insiders.
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First

I wrote 2 months ago the Russian oligarchs will reach a point where they will collectively decide no more of their billions melting away will be tolerated at the hands of Putin and his Pyrrhic Ukraine follies. They will pay-off the generals, certain Duma figures will comprise the new leadership and the FSB will decide if it is to be a bloodless coup or, in fact, how much blood will be spilt.
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I see no logic in this...

What kind of other leadership they would propose?
A pro US one? There is one like this in Russia ??

Or mayby Putin is too soft, dont You recon?
The only oposition rising to Putin would be the one thinking, that he is too "concern" and too little "Russia invades ur ass". And what that means is war and more sanctions, more business lost for Oligarchs.

Oligarchs are shady millionares made by businesses with governments and mafia. For them to make a rebellion is like going against their master to surve western intrests.

I dont see any acceptance in the army for this or in the FSB. Btw. FSB controls oligarchs. Oligarchs are at the lowest part chain of decision.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360


And one more thing, Putin got more money to offer FSB, army and the generals. He can offer them all the money oligarchs got - bring me their heads, keep their wealth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360

The scenario is pure speculation on my part. This, however, is my main point; for the first time, I've seen recently, a identifiable fissure has developed between Putins '2nd circle' of advisors.

Another thing when Putin received the military's backing in his latest presidential run, it was for one single reason. Putin promised the generals, admirals to implement a 10 year, 650 billion USD plan to completely remake and update the entire military. Currently, we are in the 3rd year.

Now, apparently, generals are not happy b/c Putin's policies in Eastern Ukraine have brought that 10 year plan to a complete halt. Generals are very skeptical the military re-modernisation will be completed, full term. Sanctions, capital flight, economy gone to shit and they blame a reckless Putin. A fissure has developed.
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RUSSIA CONSIDERING URGENT RESPONSE TO SERIOUS ESCALATION IN DONETSK
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now this is siren2
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Losses for Ukr army

The Figures Include:

2,590 extremists of the Right Sector, for the most part, who joined the so-called “National Guard” (sic). Major General Sergei Kulchitsky, head of combat training of the “National Guard” (sic), was killed near Slavyansk, Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR), Novorossiya (SRN), on 29 May 2014. Colonel Radievsky, commander of the Chernigov Battalion of the “National Guard” (sic), was killed in Lisichansk, Lugansk People’s Republic (LNR), SRN, on 21 July 2014. Lieutenant Colonel Snitsar, the commander of the Kirovograd Battalion of the “National Guard” (sic), was killed in Lisichansk, LNR, SRN, on 23 July 2014.

2,150 domestic mercenaries from I V Kolomoisky’s “battalions”)

115 SBU officers (Sumy Alpha Group completely destroyed, other Alpha Groups from Kiev, Poltava, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankovsk, Lvov, Rovno, Lutsk, Volyn, Vinnitsa, and Zhitomir suffered heavy losses)

334 foreign mercenaries, including:

“ASBS Othago” (Polish PMC) had 139 losses
“Greystone” (American PMC) had 44 losses
“Academi” (American PMC, known as “Blackwater” until 2009) had 125 losses
Baltic female snipers had 26 losses
200 troops of the 95 Airmobile Brigade (Zhitomir)

480 troops of the 25 Airmobile Brigade (Dnepropetrovsk)

480 troops of the 79 Airmobile Brigade (Nikolayev)

490 troops of the 24 Mechanised Brigade (Yavorov, Lvov Oblast)

190 troops of the 80 Airmobile Regiment (Lvov)

70 troops of the 3 Spetsnaz Regiment (Kirovograd)

30 troops of the 8 Spetsnaz Regiment (Khmelnitsky)

10 troops of the 10 Separate Brigade of the Spetsnaz of the GRU of the Minoborony Ukrainy (Kiev)

190 troops of the 93 Mechanised Brigade (Cherkasskoe, Novomoskovsk Raion, Dnepropetrovsk Oblast)

360 troops of the 72 Mechanised Brigade (Belaya Tserkov, Kiev Oblast)

110 troops of the 28 Separate Guards Mechanised Brigade (Chernomorskoe, Kominternov Raion, Odessa Oblast)

100 troops of the 128 Mountain-Infantry Brigade (Mukačevo, Zakarpatskaya Oblast)

100 troops from territorial defence battalions

80 troops of the 1 Tank Brigade (Goncharovskoe, Chernigov Oblast)

55 troops of the Lugansk border detachment

55 troops of the Donetsk border detachment

30 troops of the 51 Army Aviation Brigade of the “National Guard” (sic) (Aleksandriya, Kirovograd Oblast)

35 troops of the 16 Army Aviation Brigade (Brody, Lvov Oblast)

40 troops of the 831 Combat Aviation Brigade (Mirgorod, Poltava Oblast)

5 troops of the 114 Tactical Aviation Brigade (Ivano-Frankovsk, Ivano-Frankovsk Oblast)

30 troops of the 299 Combat Aviation Brigade (Nikolayev)

9 troops of the 25 Air Transport Brigade (Melitopol, Zaporozhe Oblast), Il-76 crewmembers

5 troops killed in the shootdown of an An-30 recon aircraft near Chuguev (Kharkov Oblast) on 6 June 2014

25 CIA officers and FBI agents (13 killed, 12 wounded)

50 MVDU personnel

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DESTROYED EQUIPMENT
1 unknown aircraft downed on 30 July 2014
2 An-26 aircraft
1 An-30 reconnaissance aircraft
2 Il-76 transport aircraft
16 Su-25 attack aircraft + 1 more Su-25 captured in the LNR on 7 July 2014
7 Su-24 aircraft
5 drones
19 combat helicopters (Mi-8/17/24)
185 T-64 tanks
7 T-72 tanks
1 “Bulat” tank
5 Hummers
1 Jeep
19 GAZ-66 trucks
1 staff vehicle
1 mobile crane
1 ZIL-131 trucks
26 Ural trucks
29 Kamaz trucks
3 UAZ-469 off-road vehicles
3 Nona self-propelled mortars
2 2S3 Akatsiya self-propelled howitzers
2 ZU-23-2 towed anti-aircraft twin-barrelled autocannons
8 truck-mounted Grad multiple rocket launchers
6 Uragan self-propelled multiple rocket launcher systems
23 D-30 howitzers
17 122 mm mortars
103 BMP infantry fighting vehicles
94 BMD amphibious infantry fighting vehicles
211 BTR armoured personnel carriers

SOURCE:
Igor Panarin, political scientist, PhD in Psychology, Doctor of Political Sciences, member of the Academy of Military Sciences. Member of the Scientific and Methodological Council of the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation, a member of the Expert Council Committee on CIS Affairs of the RF Federation Council.
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I wrote 2 months ago the Russian oligarchs will reach a point where they will collectively decide no more of their billions melting away will be tolerated at the hands of Putin and his Pyrrhic Ukraine follies. They will pay-off the generals, certain Duma figures will comprise the new leadership and the FSB will decide if it is to be a bloodless coup or, in fact, how much blood will be spilt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26200991



I see no logic in this...

What kind of other leadership they would propose?
A pro US one? There is one like this in Russia ??

Or mayby Putin is too soft, dont You recon?
The only oposition rising to Putin would be the one thinking, that he is too "concern" and too little "Russia invades ur ass". And what that means is war and more sanctions, more business lost for Oligarchs.

Oligarchs are shady millionares made by businesses with governments and mafia. For them to make a rebellion is like going against their master to surve western intrests.

I dont see any acceptance in the army for this or in the FSB. Btw. FSB controls oligarchs. Oligarchs are at the lowest part chain of decision.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360


And one more thing, Putin got more money to offer FSB, army and the generals. He can offer them all the money oligarchs got - bring me their heads, keep their wealth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360

The scenario is pure speculation on my part. This, however, is my main point; for the first time, I've seen recently, a identifiable fissure has developed between Putins '2nd circle' of advisors.

Another thing when Putin received the military's backing in his latest presidential run, it was for one single reason. Putin promised the generals, admirals to implement a 10 year, 650 billion USD plan to completely remake and update the entire military. Currently, we are in the 3rd year.

Now, apparently, generals are not happy b/c Putin's policies in Eastern Ukraine have brought that 10 year plan to a complete halt. Generals are very skeptical the military re-modernisation will be completed, full term. Sanctions, capital flight, economy gone to shit and they blame a reckless Putin. A fissure has developed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26200991


Again, think like the Generals...

You think in current situation their mood is :
"ahh US is overtaking Ukraine, we should lay low and mayby they wont do any sanctions so we can keep our army plan to work...and if we lose Crimea, well nevermind"

or mayby
"damn Putin, by that time now, our flags would be in Kiev right now and fuck the west"

or even
"they wanna sanction us, please push the red buttom"
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RUSSIA CONSIDERING URGENT RESPONSE TO SERIOUS ESCALATION IN DONETSK
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Nice and vague.
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Message Agency "New Russia" on 08/04/2014, 0:45 Agency "New Russia" reports about the shooting of civilians in Nazi-occupied Dokuchaevsk. The report said that the men in black and red armbands subjected to death 18 people. This information came to the Committee of Social Communications DNR from the locals. According to them, not only armed punishers shoot civilians, but also abduct people. The number of missing is unknown.

In addition, it is reported that in the area of State Farm Dokuchaevsk punishers installed two installations "Grad" and one installation at the cemetery.

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little off topic, but kind of related, any news about the Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict Janey?
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Nice and vague.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60715668


And no link.
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These Ukrainian dogs are making a major mistake in advancing through rebel territory instead of negotiating to give up the land to us rightful Russians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46130593

Muscovites who believe they own other countries' land will eventually suffer the same fate as the Nazis who believed similarly:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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On 13 March 1933, The Third Reich established a Ministry of Propaganda, appointing Joseph Goebbels as its Minister. Goals were to establish external enemies (countries that allegedly inflicted the Treaty of Versailles on Germany - by territorial claims and ethnocentrism) and internal enemies, such as Jews, Romani, homosexuals, Bolsheviks and topics like degenerate art.

A major political and ideological cornerstone of Nazi policy was the unification of all ethnic Germans living outside of the Reich's borders under one Greater Germany (e.g. Austria and Czechoslovakia).[8] In Mein Kampf, Hitler made a direct remark to those outside of Germany. He stated that pain and misery were being forced upon ethnic Germans outside of Germany, and that they dream of common fatherland. He finished by stating they needed to fight for one's nationality.[9] Throughout Mein Kampf, he pushed Germans worldwide to make the struggle for political power and independence their main focus. Nazi propaganda used the Heim ins Reich policy for this, which began in 1938.[10]

For months prior to the beginning of World War II in 1939, German newspapers and leaders had carried out a national and international propaganda campaign accusing Polish authorities of organizing or tolerating violent ethnic cleansing of ethnic Germans living in Poland.[11] On 22 August, Adolf Hitler told his generals:

"I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn't matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth."[12][13]

The main part of this propaganda campaign was the false flag project, Operation Himmler, which was designed to create the appearance of Polish aggression against Germany, which was subsequently used to justify the invasion of Poland.
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By your logic then Great Britain never existed and well thats a flat fucking faced lie. CookieDough
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I see no logic in this...

What kind of other leadership they would propose?
A pro US one? There is one like this in Russia ??

Or mayby Putin is too soft, dont You recon?
The only oposition rising to Putin would be the one thinking, that he is too "concern" and too little "Russia invades ur ass". And what that means is war and more sanctions, more business lost for Oligarchs.

Oligarchs are shady millionares made by businesses with governments and mafia. For them to make a rebellion is like going against their master to surve western intrests.

I dont see any acceptance in the army for this or in the FSB. Btw. FSB controls oligarchs. Oligarchs are at the lowest part chain of decision.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360


And one more thing, Putin got more money to offer FSB, army and the generals. He can offer them all the money oligarchs got - bring me their heads, keep their wealth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360

The scenario is pure speculation on my part. This, however, is my main point; for the first time, I've seen recently, a identifiable fissure has developed between Putins '2nd circle' of advisors.

Another thing when Putin received the military's backing in his latest presidential run, it was for one single reason. Putin promised the generals, admirals to implement a 10 year, 650 billion USD plan to completely remake and update the entire military. Currently, we are in the 3rd year.

Now, apparently, generals are not happy b/c Putin's policies in Eastern Ukraine have brought that 10 year plan to a complete halt. Generals are very skeptical the military re-modernisation will be completed, full term. Sanctions, capital flight, economy gone to shit and they blame a reckless Putin. A fissure has developed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26200991


Again, think like the Generals...

You think in current situation their mood is :
"ahh US is overtaking Ukraine, we should lay low and mayby they wont do any sanctions so we can keep our army plan to work...and if we lose Crimea, well nevermind"

or mayby
"damn Putin, by that time now, our flags would be in Kiev right now and fuck the west"

or even
"they wanna sanction us, please push the red buttom"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360

No, the spector of the Soviet military collapsing is fresh in the minds of the post-collapse generals and they recognize the same thing that killed them in '90/1 is killing them now - the Russian economy. I understand the generals were asking to invade continental Ukraine in April. They wanted to move in a lightening strike, effectively by-passing all the political rancor and sanctions. Didn't happen and Putin gave no reason.
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Banderistas got their asses kicked in Odessa...



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Shutting out Russia could 'result in a domino effect': Switzerland won't sanction Moscow [link to on.rt.com]


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NATO may not have the political power to defend its members against Russia — via ConversationUK [link to read.bi]


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Banderistas got their asses kicked in Odessa...



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Well, that explains how the ukie military force can have 10:1 force advantage, air power, and still get their asses lit up. They are the worst trained, most undisciplined, sorry excuse for security forces I've ever seen. Hell, I saw Tutsi's in Africa with wooden sticks command more authority.
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Is it possible those UKr defects were testing the border crossing and not really defecting?
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Dear all,

Cell phones are down in Lugansk and i have not heard anything since Sunday very early in morning when friend went for a walk.

I heard from the Tweets that some people and some cars made a run for it yesterday up north, but at the end the Separatists stopped the flow and only 70 people and a few cars made it out.

I have this wishful thinking that my friend was one of those but from the 4 pix i saw, that person was not one of them.

Otherwise nothing to report from inside Lugansk.

Will update if i get any news at all.

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sauce [link to www.militaryphotos.net]
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Cool. But it would be even cooler when there were different tanks in this biathlon...some Leos and Abrams
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Shutting out Russia could 'result in a domino effect': Switzerland won't sanction Moscow [link to on.rt.com]



 Quoting: Luisport

Nope. All the assets held by the Suisse that are subject to American sanctions require the Suisse to honour those sanctions or get slammed for a fine like the French did for 9 billion USD. So the Suisse 'sanctioning' Russia is irrelevant-can't sanction the same entity twice, at the same time.
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Shutting out Russia could 'result in a domino effect': Switzerland won't sanction Moscow [link to on.rt.com]



 Quoting: Luisport


because swiss are clever, neutral like that we can protect the money of rich russians rich american rich european , after this war most will be dead so we keep the money for making chocolate and cheese,hmmmmm cheese...
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RUSSIA CONSIDERING URGENT RESPONSE TO SERIOUS ESCALATION IN DONETSK
 Quoting: Janey


Nice and vague.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60715668


And no link.
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The link is Janey, fool. Pretty much anything she reports comes out on the AP within the day, just pay attention.
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oh btw.
I talked with my friend yesterday, he's a so called veteran member of the Party of the Swedes (Neo-nazi party).

Skillt (The neo-nazi from Sweden that fights in Ukraine)
Told his neo-nazi pals, including my friend that it's a 80% chance that Kiev will fall in the coming months.
Depending on how well the siege goes.

He also told them that around 20-40 SWEDISH citizens are fighting in the Azov battalion and they fight for the white race.

The last thing he said was, if the entire Azov battalion gets ambushed/slain. The siege will fail just in days.
 Quoting: Falter


Seems to me he and his nazi chums would be better off protecting Gothenburg and Stockholm ...was absolutley shocked when I went there..same goes for Oslo...people think it's just londonistan and Paris...people need to get out more often..
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LOL what an IDIOT skillt is. He fights for the US/UE/IMF dictatorship, which have opened the borders of US and UE to nonwhites.

Sweden is invaded by mudslims and negroes, which rape the local swedish girls. Sweden is the rape capital of Europe after UE dictatorship opened the borders to mudslims and negroes, and the idiot skillt fights for the UE dictatorship. What an IDIOT !!
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All these extremist groups are infiltrated. If you could actually find a KKK chapter to join in the US, 50% of the members would be FBI and on payroll. I'd be surprised if its not the same every where and in Sweden.
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Exactly! It's a fact Eric Holder was supplying guns to Mexican Drug Cartels. Probably helps them smuggle terrorist and drugs also.

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Shutting out Russia could 'result in a domino effect': Switzerland won't sanction Moscow [link to on.rt.com]



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because swiss are clever, neutral like that we can protect the money of rich russians rich american rich european , after this war most will be dead so we keep the money for making chocolate and cheese,hmmmmm cheese...
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because swiss are clever, neutral like that we can protect the money of rich russians rich american rich european , after this war most will be dead so we keep the money for making chocolate and cheese,hmmmmm cheese...
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Btw we love russians here … Don t care about what america is saying
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The article makes many interesting points.

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Also on Thursday, Putin’s very own version of Banquo’s ghost came back to haunt him from England, where a judge opened a high-level official inquiry into the 2006 radioactive poisoning death of ex-KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko. (The suspects are Russian agents, one of them now a member of Putin’s toy parliament.)
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In Eastern Ukraine, on the other hand, widespread distrust of the new pro-Western government in Kiev did not translate into separatist sentiment: in a Pew poll in April, secession was viewed as a permissible option by only 18 percent of the region’s population and 27 percent of its Russian speakers.
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The fact that the leadership of the two pseudo-republics was dominated by Russian citizens—often with ties to Russia’s “special services” and with vaguely comical backgrounds of political spin doctor or battle-reenactment hobbyist—didn’t help boost their credibility. Neither did their record of kidnappings and other thuggish actions.
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A few days ago, Kommersant columnist Andrei Kolesnikov—who, according to Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty writer Brian Whitmore, “regularly travels with Putin and is often a conduit for messages from the regime's inner sanctum to the broader elite”—wrote that Putin will cut the insurgents loose if it turns out they are definitely responsible for downing the Malaysian airplane.
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Even before the latest sanctions, there were reports, based on German intelligence sources, of a power struggle in the Kremlin between hardliners and business leaders. Early in July, a similar report of a split between “hawks” and “doves” within Russia’s power elites appeared in the Russian online newspaper Znak.com, which Russian online media analyst and Moscow Times columnist Victor Davidoff told me has connections to Kremlin insiders.
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I wrote 2 months ago the Russian oligarchs will reach a point where they will collectively decide no more of their billions melting away will be tolerated at the hands of Putin and his Pyrrhic Ukraine follies. They will pay-off the generals, certain Duma figures will comprise the new leadership and the FSB will decide if it is to be a bloodless coup or, in fact, how much blood will be spilt.
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You are clearly not a Russian. Id like y ou to come to where my friends and I are, We can give you lessons on how to be a true russian that you are NOT.
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 Quoting: Luisport


because swiss are clever, neutral like that we can protect the money of rich russians rich american rich european , after this war most will be dead so we keep the money for making chocolate and cheese,hmmmmm cheese...
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Btw we love russians here … Don t care about what america is saying
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