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@Jacobb_Dann @Freed0m_machine Also Air India pilots heard the order to reroute from Kiev DON'T_USE_THIS.com/lktu9vu

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Nice find Lucy. There would be no reason for India to tell fibs so I would take this as a true account. hf
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#Ukraine EPIC FAIL !
*THESE* are the "EVIDENCES" of #Russia intervention in Ukraine !
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Ridiculous Banderistan parody. I almost fell of my chair, I swear to God!
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Oh dear. Maybe Krispy's report on zombie water in Ukraine is true.
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I have not followed this thread from page one but I have read the 20 or so new pages, every day for the past couple of weeks. Reading today about GLP mods banning a bunch of russian shills, even paid ones, some time back made me realize somthing....the mods have made this thread the official russian shill prison. I bet serious threats went out from some mods that if any of you pro russian, paying members infected any other threads with your shit, you ass would be banned? Why else would cheering for american deaths, US flag burning scumbag ZOD never post outside this thread? What about A RUSSIAN (the A stands for ASSHOLE)? What about that lady from the netherlands that is clearly of russian ancestry? She can't even reason properly.

Ukraine IS a sovereign country. They will become a NATO member. You deluded russians still think you have first strike capability? LMFAO!! Deluded fools! The US military will cave the russian militarys skulls in if it went hot.

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Official ‘Investigation’ into Downing of the Malaysian Plane Is Now Clearly a Hoax.

As was pointed out by investigative journalist Donn Marten at OpEdNews on July 31st, “It is … notable that the MH17 flight recorders were spirited away last week to the UK where the … government of … David Cameron rules and will ensure that the actual content of the recordings will be cooked to a fine fricassee … by the time that they are officially released.” However, that’s not just “notable,” it is far worse. When one checks there the link that’s provided to the BBC’s July 22nd report “UK Experts to Retrieve Flight Data,” one finds the utterly shocking statement:

“British air accident investigators will retrieve data from the black boxes of crashed flight MH17, UK Prime Minister David Cameron has said. This follows a request by authorities in the Netherlands, where the Malaysia Airlines plane had flown from before crashing in Ukraine last Thursday. The experts, based at Farnborough, will download data from the recorders for analysis by Dutch and Ukrainian teams.”

This means that the Ukrainian Government, which is itself suspected of having brought the airliner down, is participating in the decoding of the information to determine who brought this plane down. Is it supposed to be acceptable legal practice, anywhere in the world, to have a major suspect in a possible criminal investigation participate in the investigation to determine whom, if anyone, to charge (i.e., whether the event wasn’t merely a tragic error on the part of whomever fired the shot or shots that brought this plane down)? Obviously, it is not. Consequently, the immediate question here is whether this “investigation” is itself a crime.

The other two Governments that will be decoding this information are Britain and Netherlands, which are likewise allied with the United States, which is the very country that installed the existing Government of Ukraine — the suspect that’s participating in this “investigation.”

Obviously, to place the decoding of this black box into the power and authority of a prime suspect in the case, and of two of that suspect’s allies, is itself criminal — either by intent or else by negligence.

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And, btw, if Russia decides to ship materiel to NAF rebels, they have absolute right to do so.
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No one has a "right" to start an aggressive war against another country, in violation of international law and agreement. The Russian empire is solemnly bound by the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, and good people of the world will never forget that.

Moreover, no one has a "right" to lie to the public at all. Since the Russian empire is clearly supplying arms to the rebels, it has no "right" to deny that it is doing so.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


Well, let me remind you that the US is leading the world by example in starting aggressive wars or destabilizing governments from A(fghanistan) to U(kraine).

I repeat: there is no proof Russia supplied weapons to NAF.
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There's no point even responding to Skeptic's train of thought while the US is continuing to supply weapons to Israel. Even while Israel is in the midst of a campaign of blatant ethnic genocide.

The US have been supplying weapons to different groups for decades and therefore have set the precedent for other countries to do the same.

As such, Russia have every right to supply weapons to ANY group they want to.

US hypocrisy continues.
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Reading today about GLP mods banning a bunch of russian shills, even paid ones, some time back made me realize somthing....the mods have made this thread the official russian shill prison.
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So it finally dawned on you…………

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Cute. applause
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Dmitry Yarosh Friday

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Right Sector has been in the area just west of Donetsk. On Friday, they liberated Krasnohorivka

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Krasnohorivka today, Moscow tommorrow.
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 Quoting: Matjaz

Thanks Matjaz,

That is one sick individual!!!

Has he any sort of credibility within his part of Ukraine?

What, as a percentage, value would you guess that that sort of attitude is within:

1> Ukraine overall
2> West
3> East

I'm not a violent person but, he makes my blood boil!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60626655


This is what the Eastern Ukrainians have been resisting and fighting against since the coup in February.

The protests were overtaken by Western Ukrainian ultra nationalists and I believe that's when the protests became violent.

Within a few days after the coup, the newly form government created a new law banning all ethnic language. This was confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of being mistreated with the new government. They quickly withdrew that law but by then The Russians had already walked into Crimea.

This man's language and belief's is just further confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of ethnic cleansing by the ultra nationalists.

When you understand why Eastern Ukraine is resisting, then you understand the overall conflict. If they stop resisting, we will see ethnic cleansing something akin to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.

Anyway, that's my take on the situation and I believe all ethnic minorities within Ukraine have a right to resist this illegitimate government who are proving to be racist.
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Hello hi

I would like to put your post into bigger picture - western puppeteers used Ukrainian ultra-nationalists to overtake protests. Ukrainian (and not only Ukrainian - there was Georgian or Czech combatants too) ultra-nationalists dominated Maidan under straight command of the West (US/EU) and they violently stole the power. And main goal of this operation was not so called freedom for Ukraine, but reach geopolitical and economic interests of US/EU and those, who are behind the courtain.
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Heya back Zod. tounge It's just taken me about 4 hours to catch up on last night's activities on this thread and now everyone's asleep and once again I'm all alone here. ;)

I've been watching Ukraine since January and witnessed what began as peaceful protests quickly degenerating into violent riots, which eventuated into an illegal coup.

The meddling of the US/EU in Ukraine was proven with Nuland's leaked phone conversation.

The blatant aggression of the US by setting up military bases right along Russia's southern borders is clearly a continuation of the Cold War. As such Russia has every right to be uptight about this behaviour.

I have watched over the past 6 months groups of ultra nationalists storming politicians offices and murdering any politician who has opposed the new Ukrainian Govt.

If I can see this from way down here in Australia, then so can the Eastern Ukrainians and other ethnic minority groups within the country. As such they have every right to be fearful of their future in Ukraine and to stand up and resist these criminal activities.

I feel sorry for the average Ukrainian who just want to live in a peaceful country without government corruption and violence. By overthrowing the old government because of corruption, they unfortunately got something much worse.
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So now #Armenia and #Azerbaijan are shooting at each other again. The world really is going to hell, and quickly #cdnpoli

a war on the Russian South flank
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ok does these spill over into Russia
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Armenia is first country which embraced Christianity in 301 AD and kept it faithfully despite being surrounded by muzzy "neighbors" with Orthodox Georgia being only exclusion.



Armenia successfully defeated muzzy azeris and retook Nagorno-Karabakh which was always Armenian land populated mostly by Armenians. By the end of the war in 1994, the Armenians were in full control of most of the enclave and also held and currently control approximately 9% of Azerbaijan's territory outside the enclave.[33] As many as 230,000 Armenians from Azerbaijan and 800,000 Azeris from Armenia and Karabakh have been displaced as a result of the conflict.[34] A Russian-brokered ceasefire was signed in May 1994 and peace talks, mediated by the OSCE Minsk Group, have been held ever since by Armenia and Azerbaijan.

In that war in the beginning on the side of azeris many nationals from different countries were fighting against Armenians but ARMENIA NEVERTHELESS WON.



Now Karabakh can become hot war zone anytime, Azeris are backed by US and US is interested to create hot south front of Russia.



Edward Peter Djerejian is a former United States diplomat who served in eight Administrations from John F. Kennedy to William J. Clinton He served as the United States Ambassador to Syria and Israel.



On October 5, 2012, Ambassador Edward P. Djerejian presented a lecture in Los Angeles titled “Arab Awakening, The Turkish Role in The Region and The Future of Armenians in the Middle East". According to the 'USA Armenian Life' reporting, he claimed that "2014 is a potentially deadly deadline for Armenia and Armenians worldwide imposed by Azerbaijan." He sternly cautioned Diaspora Armenians about the so-called "Azerbaijan deadline" for political settlement of the Artsakh (Karabagh) conflict by 2014… He tersely warned that a formidable military buildup by Azerbaijan spelled trouble for Armenia.

Read more: [link to voiceofrussia.com]



This is how in case war will be provoked, this war will spill into war between Russia and Turkey in MANY CHRISTIAN PROPHECIES.
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Funny you know, a few days ago Gordon Duff has all of a sudden been squeaking about Azerbaijan holding a lot of Israeli weapons including F15 Jet Fighters on the sly.

He was making connections between Israeli involvement in Ukraine and specifically the downing of MH17.

Now, I know Duff is to be taken with a grain of salt but it is interesting to note him mentioning Azerbaijan a few days before this current conflict.

A bigger story is at play here.
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Martin Ilbi &#8207;@martinilbi 4 Min.
@Jacobb_Dann @Freed0m_machine Also Air India pilots heard the order to reroute from Kiev DON'T_USE_THIS.com/lktu9vu

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 Quoting: °Lucy°


Nice find Lucy. There would be no reason for India to tell fibs so I would take this as a true account. hf
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Glad you saw this! I read it when first posted and tried to get people to notice, but most just ignored it.
Interesting to see that the Indian govt was denying this.
I re-posted on two other sites as soon as I saw this. As soon as I clicked on the cached link my mouse went crazy, spastic. When done, and I closed the tab, it went back to normal. Hmm.
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Martin Ilbi &#8207;@martinilbi 4 Min.
@Jacobb_Dann @Freed0m_machine Also Air India pilots heard the order to reroute from Kiev DON'T_USE_THIS.com/lktu9vu

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Nice find Lucy. There would be no reason for India to tell fibs so I would take this as a true account. hf
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Glad you saw this! I read it when first posted and tried to get people to notice, but most just ignored it.
Interesting to see that the Indian govt was denying this.
I re-posted on two other sites as soon as I saw this. As soon as I clicked on the cached link my mouse went crazy, spastic. When done, and I closed the tab, it went back to normal. Hmm.
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The Indian Govt would be playing the diplomatic card. Don't forget they are part of the Commonwealth.

It's odd how the article was cached so quickly.
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The hidden hands behind East-West tug of war in Ukraine

Is it in Ukraine's best interest to negotiate liberalisation with the IMF and the World Bank?

"Resisting the IMF

One of the sparks behind current events was the ousting of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych in February. This followed his rejection of an EU Association agreement designed to integrate the Ukraine with the EU. Less well-known, however, is the fact that the EU agreement was tied to a $17bn loan from the IMF. Instead of the EU and IMF deal, Yanukovych chose a Russian aid package worth $15bn plus a 33 percent discount on Russian natural gas."

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Ukraine nationalist gathering in Kharkiv.



Two things get my attention:
- You hear the full array of nazi slogans, including Moskalei na noji ("kill Muscovites with knives"), Slava natzii - smert vorogam, etc.
- The crowd is small, apparently nazis can no longer gather a mass rally. Good news.

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Ukraine nationalist gathering in Kharkiv.



Two things get my attention:
- You hear the full array of nazi slogans, including Moskalei na noji ("kill Muscovites with knives"), Slava natzii - smert vorogam, etc.
- The crowd is small, apparently nazis can no longer gather a mass rally. Good news.
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Ukrainians need to understand they live in a multi cultural society. Wanting to kill Russians with knives is just a little bit racist.
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Morning all.

So...

What about this distress call from MH17????

Was it shot down by 30mm SU-25 cannon fire, or not?

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Morning all.

So...

What about this distress call from MH17????

Was it shot down by 30mm SU-25 cannon fire, or not?

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coffee4 morning

Hit with R-60 in engine
repeat with 30mm cannon
making MAYDAY call trying U-turn to airfield
finished with ukr buk by hit in front zone
(cockpit destroyed)

just one possible variant

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Morning all.

So...

What about this distress call from MH17????

Was it shot down by 30mm SU-25 cannon fire, or not?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61070282


Good morning hi

Its a interesting thread. Hard to know if there really was a distress call made, but according to the article thats what the malaysian spokesperson said first to relatives
[link to joostniemoller.nl]

But then again, this quote in the article sounds like a quote made about MH370

"At this stage were are unable to say why the airplane crashed or what the captain was trying to do, we really really do not know ...."

Would be nice if there is any confirmation about what the malaysians said to the relatives first
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Thanks. Actually this seems to be the most plausible theory I've read...

Thread: MH17 Likely Crashed From R-60 Air-to-Air Missile from SU-25 Fighter Jet: Ukrainian Government (Via US) Is Framing Russian Militia For Attack

Do you think the Ukrainian ATC tapes have been edited and the original destroyed by now? I know from experience that people in that part of the world have a tendency to keep recordings as "insurance" for themselves, so I'm hoping that the original recordings are still in existence.

It's SHOCKING that they were allowed to confiscate them without so much as a whisper of protest from the official investigation board - even now. Why isn't this recording even being asked for as part of the investigation or, at least, located and kept under lock and key.
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Someone should make up a "fake" transcription "proving" this scenario, simply to force people to start thinking about comparing it with the original.
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Thanks. Actually this seems to be the most plausible theory I've read...

Thread: MH17 Likely Crashed From R-60 Air-to-Air Missile from SU-25 Fighter Jet: Ukrainian Government (Via US) Is Framing Russian Militia For Attack

Do you think the Ukrainian ATC tapes have been edited and the original destroyed by now? I know from experience that people in that part of the world have a tendency to keep recordings as "insurance" for themselves, so I'm hoping that the original recordings are still in existence.

It's SHOCKING that they were allowed to confiscate them without so much as a whisper of protest from the official investigation board - even now. Why isn't this recording even being asked for as part of the investigation or, at least, located and kept under lock and key.
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The dutch said they received some evidence, including tower recordings, satellite images and radar images. But investigation will take ages, especially if its considered a war crime.

I don't know what happened to the spanish tower guy, he twittered right after it happened and I think its important what people have said first. Afterwards things always change and it becomes a mess of fabrications. So the initially things right after the plane went down are probably the most uncorrupted evidence.

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Banderistan heroic killers of civilians are not so heroic when they stand face in face real men, which defending their homes. Obviously it is more disturbing for them than shooting from distance on civilians with artillery...



And don't miss - they have medical care. When Banderistan cowards exchanged POWs they returned tortured, stabbed men with many fractures...
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&#9608;&#9608;&#9608;&#9608; &#9608;&#9608;&#9608;&#9608;&#9608; &#8207;@News_World_ 1 Min.
#Ukraine: Antiwar and Anti-Conscription Protests. Kiev Regime Wages All-Out... [link to dlvr.it] #nouvelles #noticias #nieuws #news


A rising wave of antiwar and anti-conscription protest is taking place in cities and towns across western Ukraine.

The protests are prompted by the announcement of Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko ten days ago that a “third” military mobilization is now required for the war that his governing regime began waging against the population of eastern Ukraine three months ago. Kyiv calls the war an “anti-terrorist operation.”

The protests are paralleled by a rise in Ukraine army desertions and refusals of men and women to heed conscription orders.

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ICTV reports that the advisor to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Anton Gerashenko, has announced that anyone in Ukraine who agitates on social media against the regime’s war will be arrested.


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"At first, NATO confirmed..." #Ukraine denies using ballistic missiles [link to dw.de] via @dw_english
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Anyone seen Babay lately? He still in Ukraine? or did he get killed?
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U.S. plans to train, arm Ukraine national guard in 2015

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