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UKRAINE: BREAKING: Lugansk TPP blown up by Aidar Battalion, as promised, and 98% of the Lugansk region will now go dark!!!p6082

 
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If you have to use lies and deceitful propaganda in order to justify a war, then that war is not justifiable.
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MOSCOW, August 2 (RIA Novosti) – The recent statements by the US Department of State on other countries’ noncompliance with arms control, nonproliferation, and disarmament agreements are blatant and open disinformation, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

“Blatant, deliberate disinformation of the international public opinion on other countries’ compliance with arms control agreements raises doubts over the authenticity of the data on the United States’ adherence to its own international obligations. We are ready to help Washington to rectify this omission. Objectivity and accuracy should be made the key pillars,” the statement by the ministry said.

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+1

Most likely Tomahawk cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. Unstoppable.
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Mikheil Saakashvili sentenced to imprisonment

[link to www.interpressnews.ge]

Sentenced in absentia by the Tbilisi court, so he is now officially "on-the-run".

Apparently he and the other Georgians really jarred Poroshenko's nerves when they were in Kiev - and the White House too (McCain excepted) because he was pushing to back Putin into a corner with no opportunity for compromise - i.e. pushing us ALL into a war.

Neither Poroshenko nor the Americans want a war, but Saakashvili and his gang were doing all they could to thwart any chance of a compromise.
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WTF?!

War is the only thing Washington ever wanted!! Anywhere in the world, especially in Europe!
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Mikheil Saakashvili sentenced to imprisonment

[link to www.interpressnews.ge]

Sentenced in absentia by the Tbilisi court, so he is now officially "on-the-run".

Apparently he and the other Georgians really jarred Poroshenko's nerves when they were in Kiev - and the White House too (McCain excepted) because he was pushing to back Putin into a corner with no opportunity for compromise - i.e. pushing us ALL into a war.

Neither Poroshenko nor the Americans want a war, but Saakashvili and his gang were doing all they could to thwart any chance of a compromise.
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WTF?!

War is the only thing Washington ever wanted!! Anywhere in the world, especially in Europe!
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That is untrue. If Washington 'wanted' war in Europe, it would have had it long ago.

It is Putin and all his little trolls that are screaming for war like madmen.
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Ukraine nationalist gathering in Kharkiv.



Two things get my attention:
- You hear the full array of nazi slogans, including Moskalei na noji ("kill Muscovites with knives"), Slava natzii - smert vorogam, etc.
- The crowd is small, apparently nazis can no longer gather a mass rally. Good news.
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Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
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so brainwashed, so stupid youth
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Recent events summary from the most informative source:

[link to colonelcassad.livejournal.com]

It seems that dillweed "offensive" is at the choke point for a few days already.

I am also surprised at how well the guy is informed about UAF movements throughout the country. Apparently the rebels' informers are doing a fantastic job.

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Cameron says Nato must deploy weapons in eastern Europe to combat Russian threat

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NATO have weapons yet? May be Cameron send all 386 Challenger 2 tank? Iy it smile number. Not enemy total. In one battle in Novorossiay junta send no less then 200 tanks in one time. From this number was destroy 125 tanks.

So 386 tanks it is for 3-4 days war.

Nuclear Tomahawk is abscent in today.
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Mikheil Saakashvili sentenced to imprisonment

[link to www.interpressnews.ge]

Sentenced in absentia by the Tbilisi court, so he is now officially "on-the-run".

Apparently he and the other Georgians really jarred Poroshenko's nerves when they were in Kiev - and the White House too (McCain excepted) because he was pushing to back Putin into a corner with no opportunity for compromise - i.e. pushing us ALL into a war.

Neither Poroshenko nor the Americans want a war, but Saakashvili and his gang were doing all they could to thwart any chance of a compromise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61070282


WTF?!

War is the only thing Washington ever wanted!! Anywhere in the world, especially in Europe!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32170796


That is untrue. If Washington 'wanted' war in Europe, it would have had it long ago.

It is Putin and all his little trolls that are screaming for war like madmen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57590262


they do it by proxy, stir up shit somewhere and let the people there fight. And don't forget to keep throwing oil into the flames ....

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REPORTS #NAF HQ #Ukraine air force conducted air strikes in and around #Yenakievo #Makeyevka #Khartsyzsk #cdnpoli
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Twitter has censored #donetsk and #lugansk hashtags. no tweets later than 30. july show, if you click on latest tweets. At least here in Germany with my provider. Cleared cache and cookies and got new IP, confirmed.

War is coming, no doubt
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Mikheil Saakashvili sentenced to imprisonment

[link to www.interpressnews.ge]

Sentenced in absentia by the Tbilisi court, so he is now officially "on-the-run".

Apparently he and the other Georgians really jarred Poroshenko's nerves when they were in Kiev - and the White House too (McCain excepted) because he was pushing to back Putin into a corner with no opportunity for compromise - i.e. pushing us ALL into a war.

Neither Poroshenko nor the Americans want a war, but Saakashvili and his gang were doing all they could to thwart any chance of a compromise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61070282


WTF?!

War is the only thing Washington ever wanted!! Anywhere in the world, especially in Europe!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32170796


That is untrue. If Washington 'wanted' war in Europe, it would have had it long ago.

It is Putin and all his little trolls that are screaming for war like madmen.
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You don't get it, do you? US is intentionally weakening all of Europe, especially Germany.
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This balanced article on #Ukraine crisis tells alot being left out. [link to truth-out.org] …


Antiwar Protests Spreading in Ukraine as Government Wages All-Out War in the Southeast and NATO Threatens Russia
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Twitter has censored #donetsk and #lugansk hashtags. no tweets later than 30. july show, if you click on latest tweets. At least here in Germany with my provider. Cleared cache and cookies and got new IP, confirmed.

War is coming, no doubt
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Here in Russia both hashtags work in both languages, with most recent tweets being 15-20 mins fresh.
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It's not like #Ukraine is going to use those arms against their own people, right? [link to en.itar-tass.com]
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Russia opposition Nemtsov: Separatism in Russia started: initiative for federalization of Siberia, Kaliningrad protests

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Big german magazine wrote:

The accusations against Putin sound a lot like war propaganda

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Twitter has censored #donetsk and #lugansk hashtags. no tweets later than 30. july show, if you click on latest tweets. At least here in Germany with my provider. Cleared cache and cookies and got new IP, confirmed.

War is coming, no doubt
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Here in Russia both hashtags work in both languages, with most recent tweets being 15-20 mins fresh.
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They want to hide recent total embarrassment and failure of their operation in Novorossiya.
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Urgent! #Russia border control reports RU territory hit by MRLS Grad. Fire came from #Ukraine... [link to tmblr.co]

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Urgent! #Russia border control reports RU territory hit by MRLS Grad. Fire came from #Ukraine... [link to tmblr.co]

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Our Russian Foreign Minister said that we need to treat the dillweed army with condescension.
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Neither side wants war, but the West are creating the conditions of war by using Ukraine as a lever for regime change in Russia.

I see that Obama has now mentioned "lifting" sanctions.

I think the real cause of MH17 going down will be swept under the carpet and sanctions lifted, faces saved, war avoided, that kind of thing.

Maybe Merkel's solution.
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Cameron says Nato must deploy weapons in eastern Europe to combat Russian threat

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+1

Most likely Tomahawk cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. Unstoppable.
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Rather sad thing to say. We have 4 ohio ssbn's with the nukes removed and replaced with 24 7 round cylinders that accept tomahawk. I read an unclassified source that says that about 1/3 are nuclear tipped. That's a deterrence, for sure.

Tomahawk however is an old missile with a relatively high flight profile for a sea skimmer, and moves at about mach 0.6. any detection of the missile could lead to its being intercepted rather easily. Of course, that requires assets to be in place at the right time. Key is rendering air defense systems inert. My fear is this can be done. I say fear because with present leadership, the risk is that such capabilities would be used not simply for deterrence.

I heard a report, maybe on this thread, early in the Ukraine crisis, that GLANOSS (I think that's the Russian gps system) satellites were simultaneously shut down. That capability might have prevented a Russian military response (I am clearly speculating here). but my point is, if we were able to shut that down, we can probably shut down relevant air defense systems as well. This is to say nothing about the tactical use of EA-18G.

Extraordinarily difficult times, my friend.
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Urgent! #Russia border control reports RU territory hit by MRLS Grad. Fire came from #Ukraine... [link to tmblr.co]

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Our Russian Foreign Minister said that we need to treat the dillweed army with condescension.
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Ukies became like Varenukha, vampire-gunner from Bulgakov's Master and Margarita if you know what I am talking about.
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Rather sad thing to say. We have 4 ohio ssbn's with the nukes removed and replaced with 24 7 round cylinders that accept tomahawk. I read an unclassified source that says that about 1/3 are nuclear tipped. That's a deterrence, for sure.

Tomahawk however is an old missile with a relatively high flight profile for a sea skimmer, and moves at about mach 0.6. any detection of the missile could lead to its being intercepted rather easily. Of course, that requires assets to be in place at the right time. Key is rendering air defense systems inert. My fear is this can be done. I say fear because with present leadership, the risk is that such capabilities would be used not simply for deterrence.

I heard a report, maybe on this thread, early in the Ukraine crisis, that GLANOSS (I think that's the Russian gps system) satellites were simultaneously shut down. That capability might have prevented a Russian military response (I am clearly speculating here). but my point is, if we were able to shut that down, we can probably shut down relevant air defense systems as well. This is to say nothing about the tactical use of EA-18G.

Extraordinarily difficult times, my friend.
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You are referring to GLONASS transmitters shutdown on US soil. Are there any Russian air defense systems located on US territory? I would be surprised if there are.

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