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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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"Morning" all...

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Dobre rano!
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Rather sad thing to say. We have 4 ohio ssbn's with the nukes removed and replaced with 24 7 round cylinders that accept tomahawk. I read an unclassified source that says that about 1/3 are nuclear tipped. That's a deterrence, for sure.

Tomahawk however is an old missile with a relatively high flight profile for a sea skimmer, and moves at about mach 0.6. any detection of the missile could lead to its being intercepted rather easily. Of course, that requires assets to be in place at the right time. Key is rendering air defense systems inert. My fear is this can be done. I say fear because with present leadership, the risk is that such capabilities would be used not simply for deterrence.

I heard a report, maybe on this thread, early in the Ukraine crisis, that GLANOSS (I think that's the Russian gps system) satellites were simultaneously shut down. That capability might have prevented a Russian military response (I am clearly speculating here). but my point is, if we were able to shut that down, we can probably shut down relevant air defense systems as well. This is to say nothing about the tactical use of EA-18G.

Extraordinarily difficult times, my friend.
 Quoting: NeoIsolationist 53042565


You are referring to GLONASS transmitters shutdown on US soil. Are there any Russian air defense systems located on US territory? I would be surprised if there are.
 Quoting: A Russian


I actually understood the satellites themselves were rendered shut down. I do not have access to military intelligence, and am speaking based on what I've read from a few non-classified sources--speculating. if it were just the emitters in the USA, then I am feeling a little better.
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"Morning" all...

coffeecup
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Dobre rano!
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Dobry, i kdyz uz trochu pozdni, rano :-)
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More deamaged Banderistan armament, Avdiyivka and Yasinovataya:


“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / US demands to assassinate, kidnap and arrest Julian Assange, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Rather sad thing to say. We have 4 ohio ssbn's with the nukes removed and replaced with 24 7 round cylinders that accept tomahawk. I read an unclassified source that says that about 1/3 are nuclear tipped. That's a deterrence, for sure.

Tomahawk however is an old missile with a relatively high flight profile for a sea skimmer, and moves at about mach 0.6. any detection of the missile could lead to its being intercepted rather easily. Of course, that requires assets to be in place at the right time. Key is rendering air defense systems inert. My fear is this can be done. I say fear because with present leadership, the risk is that such capabilities would be used not simply for deterrence.

I heard a report, maybe on this thread, early in the Ukraine crisis, that GLANOSS (I think that's the Russian gps system) satellites were simultaneously shut down. That capability might have prevented a Russian military response (I am clearly speculating here). but my point is, if we were able to shut that down, we can probably shut down relevant air defense systems as well. This is to say nothing about the tactical use of EA-18G.

Extraordinarily difficult times, my friend.
 Quoting: NeoIsolationist 53042565


You are referring to GLONASS transmitters shutdown on US soil. Are there any Russian air defense systems located on US territory? I would be surprised if there are.
 Quoting: A Russian


I actually understood the satellites themselves were rendered shut down. I do not have access to military intelligence, and am speaking based on what I've read from a few non-classified sources--speculating. if it were just the emitters in the USA, then I am feeling a little better.
 Quoting: NeoIsolationist 53042565


AFAIK, those were the signal remitters being shut down. I can clearly remember some noise with our government threating to shut down GPS in retaliation,... but then it all cooled off.

Mutually assured destruction is still the only end game possible, so you don't have to worry IMO.
Give Peace a Chance (c) John Lennon 1969
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Ukraine nationalist gathering in Kharkiv.



Two things get my attention:
- You hear the full array of nazi slogans, including Moskalei na noji ("kill Muscovites with knives"), Slava natzii - smert vorogam, etc.
- The crowd is small, apparently nazis can no longer gather a mass rally. Good news.
 Quoting: A Russian


Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so brainwashed, so stupid youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


Shouldn't these people be volunteering to fight on the front lines instead of waving flags in town, so that they can replace the thousands that have been killed? They look like the children of rich criminal oligarchs. Who gets drafted in Ukraine? Are there deferments?
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Rather sad thing to say. We have 4 ohio ssbn's with the nukes removed and replaced with 24 7 round cylinders that accept tomahawk. I read an unclassified source that says that about 1/3 are nuclear tipped. That's a deterrence, for sure.

Tomahawk however is an old missile with a relatively high flight profile for a sea skimmer, and moves at about mach 0.6. any detection of the missile could lead to its being intercepted rather easily. Of course, that requires assets to be in place at the right time. Key is rendering air defense systems inert. My fear is this can be done. I say fear because with present leadership, the risk is that such capabilities would be used not simply for deterrence.

I heard a report, maybe on this thread, early in the Ukraine crisis, that GLANOSS (I think that's the Russian gps system) satellites were simultaneously shut down. That capability might have prevented a Russian military response (I am clearly speculating here). but my point is, if we were able to shut that down, we can probably shut down relevant air defense systems as well. This is to say nothing about the tactical use of EA-18G.

Extraordinarily difficult times, my friend.
 Quoting: NeoIsolationist 53042565


You are referring to GLONASS transmitters shutdown on US soil. Are there any Russian air defense systems located on US territory? I would be surprised if there are.
 Quoting: A Russian


I actually understood the satellites themselves were rendered shut down. I do not have access to military intelligence, and am speaking based on what I've read from a few non-classified sources--speculating. if it were just the emitters in the USA, then I am feeling a little better.
 Quoting: NeoIsolationist 53042565


AFAIK, those were the signal remitters being shut down. I can clearly remember some noise with our government threating to shut down GPS in retaliation,... but then it all cooled off.

Mutually assured destruction is still the only end game possible, so you don't have to worry IMO.
 Quoting: A Russian


heh heh. True regarding MAD. Thanks for squaring me away on the GLONASS issue.
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This is what the Eastern Ukrainians have been resisting and fighting against since the coup in February.

The protests were overtaken by Western Ukrainian ultra nationalists and I believe that's when the protests became violent.

Within a few days after the coup, the newly form government created a new law banning all ethnic language. This was confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of being mistreated with the new government. They quickly withdrew that law but by then The Russians had already walked into Crimea.

This man's language and belief's is just further confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of ethnic cleansing by the ultra nationalists.

When you understand why Eastern Ukraine is resisting, then you understand the overall conflict. If they stop resisting, we will see ethnic cleansing something akin to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.

Anyway, that's my take on the situation and I believe all ethnic minorities within Ukraine have a right to resist this illegitimate government who are proving to be racist.
 Quoting: KFinn


Very true !!!! That is what I see to.

The Kahzar [those later-switched-to-Jew] went to claim Israel, they are "fake"-Jews. The Palestinian are part of the REAL JEWS and they have been tortured and humiliated for eons ...
These Kahzar Jews have infiltrated in the worlds banking-business [Rothschild is one of them]. They FEEL they have the rights to the Ukraine, and they will fight hard and/or punish hard when they dont get what they desire.


xxxK
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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / US demands to assassinate, kidnap and arrest Julian Assange, p. 6 (Page 6)

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Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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This is what the Eastern Ukrainians have been resisting and fighting against since the coup in February.

The protests were overtaken by Western Ukrainian ultra nationalists and I believe that's when the protests became violent.

Within a few days after the coup, the newly form government created a new law banning all ethnic language. This was confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of being mistreated with the new government. They quickly withdrew that law but by then The Russians had already walked into Crimea.

This man's language and belief's is just further confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of ethnic cleansing by the ultra nationalists.

When you understand why Eastern Ukraine is resisting, then you understand the overall conflict. If they stop resisting, we will see ethnic cleansing something akin to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.

Anyway, that's my take on the situation and I believe all ethnic minorities within Ukraine have a right to resist this illegitimate government who are proving to be racist.
 Quoting: KFinn


Very true !!!! That is what I see to.

The Kahzar [those later-switched-to-Jew] went to claim Israel, they are "fake"-Jews. The Palestinian are part of the REAL JEWS and they have been tortured and humiliated for eons ...
These Kahzar Jews have infiltrated in the worlds banking-business [Rothschild is one of them]. They FEEL they have the rights to the Ukraine, and they will fight hard and/or punish hard when they dont get what they desire.


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


"I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan."

—Revelation 2:9
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AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 2 hod.
NEWS FLASH - UNCONFIRMED:
NAF flushed out #Ukraine NAZI SCUM troops from Krasnogorovka and Marinka.


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In #Luhansk some instalations of hospital #12, children's daycare center #68 & railway hospital were hit by #Ukraine shelling.

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"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / US demands to assassinate, kidnap and arrest Julian Assange, p. 6 (Page 6)

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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Ukraine nationalist gathering in Kharkiv.



Two things get my attention:
- You hear the full array of nazi slogans, including Moskalei na noji ("kill Muscovites with knives"), Slava natzii - smert vorogam, etc.
- The crowd is small, apparently nazis can no longer gather a mass rally. Good news.
 Quoting: A Russian


Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so brainwashed, so stupid youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


Shouldn't these people be volunteering to fight on the front lines instead of waving flags in town, so that they can replace the thousands that have been killed? They look like the children of rich criminal oligarchs. Who gets drafted in Ukraine? Are there deferments?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57589670

you're right...you can bribe your way out of mobilization for the army. Last I heard it was around 500 EUR bribe to recruiting officer
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...


Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so brainwashed, so stupid youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


Shouldn't these people be volunteering to fight on the front lines instead of waving flags in town, so that they can replace the thousands that have been killed? They look like the children of rich criminal oligarchs. Who gets drafted in Ukraine? Are there deferments?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57589670

you're right...you can bribe your way out of mobilization for the army. Last I heard it was around 500 EUR bribe to recruiting officer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


It would be much cheaper for Russia is to organize money giveaways for West Ukrainians so they could bail themselves out and war will stop. Awesome solution! rofl5
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Urgent! #Russia border control reports RU territory hit by MRLS Grad. Fire came from #Ukraine... [link to tmblr.co]

[link to ria.ru]
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Our Russian Foreign Minister said that we need to treat the dillweed army with condescension.
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may I suggest you treat them with iskanders
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Maidan "activists" was trained in NATO camp:

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / US demands to assassinate, kidnap and arrest Julian Assange, p. 6 (Page 6)

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Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Urgent! #Russia border control reports RU territory hit by MRLS Grad. Fire came from #Ukraine... [link to tmblr.co]

[link to ria.ru]
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Our Russian Foreign Minister said that we need to treat the dillweed army with condescension.
 Quoting: A Russian


may I suggest you treat them with iskanders
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That it was impossible to avoid joining it…
A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness,
A desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in.
With a sledgehammer, seemed to flow
Through the whole group of people
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Russian deputy PM mocks Obama by tweeting ‘unmanly’ photo of president
Days after announcement of US sanctions on Russia, the country's deputy prime minister challenges US president's masculinty by tweeting picture of Putin with a leopard and Obama with a poodle

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Check out the expression on Obama's face. Wow - at least Americans can rest at ease knowing they've got such a world leader watching their backs.
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This is what the Eastern Ukrainians have been resisting and fighting against since the coup in February.

The protests were overtaken by Western Ukrainian ultra nationalists and I believe that's when the protests became violent.

Within a few days after the coup, the newly form government created a new law banning all ethnic language. This was confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of being mistreated with the new government. They quickly withdrew that law but by then The Russians had already walked into Crimea.

This man's language and belief's is just further confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of ethnic cleansing by the ultra nationalists.

When you understand why Eastern Ukraine is resisting, then you understand the overall conflict. If they stop resisting, we will see ethnic cleansing something akin to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.

Anyway, that's my take on the situation and I believe all ethnic minorities within Ukraine have a right to resist this illegitimate government who are proving to be racist.
 Quoting: KFinn


Very true !!!! That is what I see to.

The Kahzar [those later-switched-to-Jew] went to claim Israel, they are "fake"-Jews. The Palestinian are part of the REAL JEWS and they have been tortured and humiliated for eons ...
These Kahzar Jews have infiltrated in the worlds banking-business [Rothschild is one of them]. They FEEL they have the rights to the Ukraine, and they will fight hard and/or punish hard when they dont get what they desire.


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


As our great poet Alexander Pushkin wrote:

Now Oleg prepares with strength of his sword
The doom of the Khazars, his neighbors,
Their insolent raids he would fitly reward
With fire and the steel of his sabres...


(The Ballad of Wise Oleg)
Give Peace a Chance (c) John Lennon 1969
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This is what the Eastern Ukrainians have been resisting and fighting against since the coup in February.

The protests were overtaken by Western Ukrainian ultra nationalists and I believe that's when the protests became violent.

Within a few days after the coup, the newly form government created a new law banning all ethnic language. This was confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of being mistreated with the new government. They quickly withdrew that law but by then The Russians had already walked into Crimea.

This man's language and belief's is just further confirmation of Eastern Ukraine's fears of ethnic cleansing by the ultra nationalists.

When you understand why Eastern Ukraine is resisting, then you understand the overall conflict. If they stop resisting, we will see ethnic cleansing something akin to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.

Anyway, that's my take on the situation and I believe all ethnic minorities within Ukraine have a right to resist this illegitimate government who are proving to be racist.
 Quoting: KFinn


Very true !!!! That is what I see to.

The Kahzar [those later-switched-to-Jew] went to claim Israel, they are "fake"-Jews. The Palestinian are part of the REAL JEWS and they have been tortured and humiliated for eons ...
These Kahzar Jews have infiltrated in the worlds banking-business [Rothschild is one of them]. They FEEL they have the rights to the Ukraine, and they will fight hard and/or punish hard when they dont get what they desire.


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


As our great poet Alexander Pushkin wrote:

Now Oleg prepares with strength of his sword
The doom of the Khazars, his neighbors,
Their insolent raids he would fitly reward
With fire and the steel of his sabres...


(The Ballad of Wise Oleg)
 Quoting: A Russian


"Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie: behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

—Revelation 3:9
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Faked video propaganda from Kiev:



In 1:01 we can see Andrei Dubrovik, former pre-coup employee of Ministry of the Interior. He was chief of security affairs of party Batkivshchyna led by Yulia Tymoshenko.

[link to wertyzreport.files.wordpress.com]

According aditional informations this footage was created by Anderei Kozhemyakin, TV producer and another man on the payroll of Tymoshenko. It was created as propagandistic movie to show, how brutal is regime, what western backed combatants from Maidan want to overthrow.

Source here (in Czech language):

[link to protiproud.parlamentnilisty.cz]
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"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

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Urgent! #Russia border control reports RU territory hit by MRLS Grad. Fire came from #Ukraine... [link to tmblr.co]

[link to ria.ru]
 Quoting: °Lucy°


Our Russian Foreign Minister said that we need to treat the dillweed army with condescension.
 Quoting: A Russian


may I suggest you treat them with iskanders
 Quoting: Babay


The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate
Was not that one was obliged to act a part, but
That it was impossible to avoid joining it…
A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness,
A desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in.
With a sledgehammer, seemed to flow
Through the whole group of people
Like an electric current, turning one even against one’s will
into a grimacing, screaming lunatic

George Orwell, 1984
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Orvel was a prophet

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AJSB ‏@A_J_S_B 49 min.
Pridorozhnoye: Azov got kicked there.
Krasnogorovka: Liberated by NAF.
Pervomaisk: NAF combats against Dumbass battalion. City in NAF hands.
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

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Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Smoke rises above #Severodonetsk airport today, town officially in #Ukraine hands. prob. the work of DNR sabotage

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“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / US demands to assassinate, kidnap and arrest Julian Assange, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Faked video propaganda from Kiev:



In 1:01 we can see Andrei Dubrovik, former pre-coup employee of Ministry of the Interior. He was chief of security affairs of party Batkivshchyna led by Yulia Tymoshenko.

[link to wertyzreport.files.wordpress.com]

According aditional informations this footage was created by Anderei Kozhemyakin, TV producer and another man on the payroll of Tymoshenko. It was created as propagandistic movie to show, how brutal is regime, what western backed combatants from Maidan want to overthrow.

Source here (in Czech language):

[link to protiproud.parlamentnilisty.cz]
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The same in English here [link to www.voltairenet.org]
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Ukraine nationalist gathering in Kharkiv.



Two things get my attention:
- You hear the full array of nazi slogans, including Moskalei na noji ("kill Muscovites with knives"), Slava natzii - smert vorogam, etc.
- The crowd is small, apparently nazis can no longer gather a mass rally. Good news.
 Quoting: A Russian


Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so brainwashed, so stupid youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


These are primitive, stupid and brainwashed posters. As for Ukranians on this video, they are our hope and future. And I believe they will finally implement the song's words "Moskaley na nozhi" because Muscovites drank too much of Ukrainian blood during last centuries.
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Ukraine nationalist gathering in Kharkiv.



Two things get my attention:
- You hear the full array of nazi slogans, including Moskalei na noji ("kill Muscovites with knives"), Slava natzii - smert vorogam, etc.
- The crowd is small, apparently nazis can no longer gather a mass rally. Good news.
 Quoting: A Russian


Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so brainwashed, so stupid youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


These are primitive, stupid and brainwashed posters. As for Ukranians on this video, they are our hope and future. And I believe they will finally implement the song's words "Moskaley na nozhi" because Muscovites drank too much of Ukrainian blood during last centuries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61077103


ban3
“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” Bane

"Prefiero morir de pie que vivir de rodillas. (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.)" Emiliano Zapata

Thread: So The Spy Services Are The Real Internet Trolls / US demands to assassinate, kidnap and arrest Julian Assange, p. 6 (Page 6)

Worth to check: [link to firstlook.org (secure)]

Daily updated archive - [link to www.matthewaid.com]

"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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Ukraine nationalist gathering in Kharkiv.



Two things get my attention:
- You hear the full array of nazi slogans, including Moskalei na noji ("kill Muscovites with knives"), Slava natzii - smert vorogam, etc.
- The crowd is small, apparently nazis can no longer gather a mass rally. Good news.
 Quoting: A Russian


Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so brainwashed, so stupid youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


These are primitive, stupid and brainwashed posters. As for Ukranians on this video, they are our hope and future. And I believe they will finally implement the song's words "Moskaley na nozhi" because Muscovites drank too much of Ukrainian blood during last centuries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61077103


Here is some of that "hope and future" filmed during "implementation" process:



Run fast to your raionny voenkomat, nenka needs you.

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Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so brainwashed, so stupid youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


These are primitive, stupid and brainwashed posters. As for Ukranians on this video, they are our hope and future. And I believe they will finally implement the song's words "Moskaley na nozhi" because Muscovites drank too much of Ukrainian blood during last centuries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61077103


ban3
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Nahuy, zadroty !
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Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so brainwashed, so stupid youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


These are primitive, stupid and brainwashed posters. As for Ukranians on this video, they are our hope and future. And I believe they will finally implement the song's words "Moskaley na nozhi" because Muscovites drank too much of Ukrainian blood during last centuries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61077103


Here is some of that "hope and future" filmed during "implementation" process:



Run fast to your raionny voenkomat, nenka needs you.
 Quoting: A Russian

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The main edge of the battle we will direct against the Slavs

First of all we will dismember all the Slavic nations
- Divide and concur

First of all, we will divide the Slavic peoples (of 300 million, half of them Russians) into the small countries with weak and severed connections.

For this, we will use our old method: Divide and conquer.

We will try to pit these countries against each other. Suck them in the civil wars to mutual destruction.

The Ukrainian would think that he is fighting against the expansionist Russia and struggling for his independence, and will think that he has finally gained his freedom, while he becomes fully subdued by us.

The same will be thought by Russians, as though they defend their national interests to return their lands, "illegally" taken from them, and so on.

All of this we will do under the guise of different sovereignties, the struggle for their national ideals. While we will not give either party any self-determination, based on the national values and traditions.
In this war of fools, the Slavic moronic herd will be weakening itself and strenghtening us, main directors of the chaos

In this war of fools we will weaken the Slavonic cattle themselves and strengthen ourselves, the principal conductors of all that revolt, pretending to stand on the side and not only not participating in the bloody events, but not getting involved in any of it.

[link to antimatrix.org]
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Ukraine nationalist gathering in Kharkiv.



Two things get my attention:
- You hear the full array of nazi slogans, including Moskalei na noji ("kill Muscovites with knives"), Slava natzii - smert vorogam, etc.
- The crowd is small, apparently nazis can no longer gather a mass rally. Good news.
 Quoting: A Russian


Sounds like a tribesmen war chant, how primitive.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


so brainwashed, so stupid youth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56032707


These are primitive, stupid and brainwashed posters. As for Ukranians on this video, they are our hope and future. And I believe they will finally implement the song's words "Moskaley na nozhi" because Muscovites drank too much of Ukrainian blood during last centuries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61077103

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