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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Moscow confirms intention to secure humanitarian mission for southeast Ukraine

-Interfax
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I hope these are code words for Moscow is about to bring some serious pain to Ukraine's forces...
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and why would you hope that?

you want WW3?
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Moscow confirms intention to secure humanitarian mission for southeast Ukraine

-Interfax
 Quoting: Falter


I hope these are code words for Moscow is about to bring some serious pain to Ukraine's forces...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3886841


and why would you hope that?

you want WW3?
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lol WW3... NATO won't do squat.
This is a slav civil war.
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Moscow confirms intention to secure humanitarian mission for southeast Ukraine

-Interfax
 Quoting: Falter


I hope these are code words for Moscow is about to bring some serious pain to Ukraine's forces...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3886841


and why would you hope that?

you want WW3?
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He is likely a Russian. Killing people makes them forget they are losers and feel like they are winners.
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MH17 was not shot by an Su-25 shadowing it. NATO ran drills and training exercises July 2-4 that used a trailing plane to spoof the transponder from a Commercial A/C signature to a Transponder MIL signature. MH17 was shot from the ground and for all intents and purposes was made to show up on radar as a MIL aircraft. Doing this offers the highest level of deniability by those that spoofed the transponder.


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Moscow confirms intention to secure humanitarian mission for southeast Ukraine

-Interfax
 Quoting: Falter


I hope these are code words for Moscow is about to bring some serious pain to Ukraine's forces...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3886841


and why would you hope that?

you want WW3?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379065


He is likely a Russian. Killing people makes them forget they are losers and feel like they are winners.
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You should stop projecting.
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So the Americans are forcing Russia into war, the same way they did Japan. Niiiiice.
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Putin orders government to consider retaliation to western sanctions

[link to en.itar-tass.com]



This will not be taken well. The west has held the most severe sanctions hoping Putin would regain rationality due to increasing cost. With this move by him now, you can expect some very severe sanctions from the west.
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not a lot the west can do without committing economical suicide. They might hurt russian economy short term, but Russia will always find buyers for its commodities. Its economy is pretty much rock solid since it's based on natural resources...unlike the west's economy which is backed by a fiat currency and inflated bubbles. I think further going down the road of sanctions and forcing Russia at some point to turn the gas of will cause a collapse of the house of cards in the western economy that is extremely leveraged. It will also give an even further edge to asian industries who will stay out of this stupid policies and come out ahead of everyone in the end.
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So the Americans are forcing Russia into war, the same way they did Japan. Niiiiice.
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gotta do something to protect the almighty dollar.
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So the Americans are forcing Russia into war, the same way they did Japan. Niiiiice.
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Nobody forced Germany and Japan into war.

They very much both prepared for and waged very irrational wars of aggression ... just like the path Putin is now taking Russia towards.
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Is Putin finally done dithering?
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As soon as you see a blinding white flash in the sky...you will know he is done.

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Moscow confirms intention to secure humanitarian mission for southeast Ukraine
-Interfax
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Ok, here we go. Maybe...
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Moscow confirms intention to secure humanitarian mission for southeast Ukraine
-Interfax
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An invasion.
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So the Americans are forcing Russia into war, the same way they did Japan. Niiiiice.
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But with one difference. If ww2 served to make US stronger, create isreal and petrodollar. This time this will be trigger suicide for already damaged to unrecognizable proportions US and West economy.
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So the Americans are forcing Russia into war, the same way they did Japan. Niiiiice.
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But with one difference. If ww2 served to make US stronger, create isreal and petrodollar. This time this will be trigger suicide for already damaged to unrecognizable proportions US and West economy.
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100% Correct.
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Putin orders government to consider retaliation to western sanctions

[link to en.itar-tass.com]



This will not be taken well. The west has held the most severe sanctions hoping Putin would regain rationality due to increasing cost. With this move by him now, you can expect some very severe sanctions from the west.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887


not a lot the west can do without committing economical suicide. They might hurt russian economy short term, but Russia will always find buyers for its commodities. Its economy is pretty much rock solid since it's based on natural resources...unlike the west's economy which is backed by a fiat currency and inflated bubbles. I think further going down the road of sanctions and forcing Russia at some point to turn the gas of will cause a collapse of the house of cards in the western economy that is extremely leveraged. It will also give an even further edge to asian industries who will stay out of this stupid policies and come out ahead of everyone in the end.
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You're wacked. Turning off the gas from Russia is a final tool of the west that would completely collapse Russia's economy.... and you state it like its a tool of Russia's LOLOLOLOL.

The west can get energy from elsewhere. Russia however cannot create new customers out of thin air, and their economy is heavily dependent of gas revenues.
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So the Americans are forcing Russia into war, the same way they did Japan. Niiiiice.
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gotta do something to protect the almighty dollar.
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Yes, I belive so too. But, no mater what the Ukraine crisis will be, the change of paradigm considering petrodollar and dollar as main reserve currency WILL change, no matter what. Dollar will die, that is matter of fact and is not stoppable. Only question is - when.

All great empires have their time of ascend, time when they're strongest, time of decline, and time of collapse. US of A will not be an exception.
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So the Americans are forcing Russia into war, the same way they did Japan. Niiiiice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42706413


But with one difference. If ww2 served to make US stronger, create isreal and petrodollar. This time this will be trigger suicide for already damaged to unrecognizable proportions US and West economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59190224

Yes in ww2 USA and Russia was alians, in next war I don't see how this is posible.
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Putin orders government to consider retaliation to western sanctions

[link to en.itar-tass.com]



This will not be taken well. The west has held the most severe sanctions hoping Putin would regain rationality due to increasing cost. With this move by him now, you can expect some very severe sanctions from the west.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887


not a lot the west can do without committing economical suicide. They might hurt russian economy short term, but Russia will always find buyers for its commodities. Its economy is pretty much rock solid since it's based on natural resources...unlike the west's economy which is backed by a fiat currency and inflated bubbles. I think further going down the road of sanctions and forcing Russia at some point to turn the gas of will cause a collapse of the house of cards in the western economy that is extremely leveraged. It will also give an even further edge to asian industries who will stay out of this stupid policies and come out ahead of everyone in the end.
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You should go to the US Dept. of Treasury, Office of Foreign Asset Control OFAC). Sanctions are already killing Russia's economy.
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The western economies are going to collapse anyway, what the west are doing is making it look like Putin is responsible.
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So the Americans are forcing Russia into war, the same way they did Japan. Niiiiice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42706413


gotta do something to protect the almighty dollar.
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Yes, I belive so too. But, no mater what the Ukraine crisis will be, the change of paradigm considering petrodollar and dollar as main reserve currency WILL change, no matter what. Dollar will die, that is matter of fact and is not stoppable. Only question is - when.

All great empires have their time of ascend, time when they're strongest, time of decline, and time of collapse. US of A will not be an exception.
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When will the USD die?
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@RT_com: BREAKING: City of #Lugansk in E.#Ukraine declares humanitarian crisis [link to on.rt.com]
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Will we see any "help" arrive soon...?
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I hope so.
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Russian helicopters invading Ukraine

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I've been saying for months that I won't get nervous until the Pols activate their reserve forces to combat readiness alert status. How are your country's reserves activated? How long would it take before they are ready to deploy?
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Stop one and ask them...there are millions here in the UK
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The western economies are going to collapse anyway, what the west are doing is making it look like Putin is responsible.
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Yes and if the WAST insist Putin will be responsible because he will contribute to the collapse.
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Streamer who has been silent for 3 months made a short film today.

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Putin orders government to consider retaliation to western sanctions

[link to en.itar-tass.com]



This will not be taken well. The west has held the most severe sanctions hoping Putin would regain rationality due to increasing cost. With this move by him now, you can expect some very severe sanctions from the west.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56926887


not a lot the west can do without committing economical suicide. They might hurt russian economy short term, but Russia will always find buyers for its commodities. Its economy is pretty much rock solid since it's based on natural resources...unlike the west's economy which is backed by a fiat currency and inflated bubbles. I think further going down the road of sanctions and forcing Russia at some point to turn the gas of will cause a collapse of the house of cards in the western economy that is extremely leveraged. It will also give an even further edge to asian industries who will stay out of this stupid policies and come out ahead of everyone in the end.
 Quoting: Zuckerborg


You're wacked. Turning off the gas from Russia is a final tool of the west that would completely collapse Russia's economy.... and you state it like its a tool of Russia's LOLOLOLOL.

The west can get energy from elsewhere. Russia however cannot create new customers out of thin air, and their economy is heavily dependent of gas revenues.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47683143


As I said it's economical suicide for the west...It will hurt Russia but russians will be backed by BRICS who will see this as an opportunity to destroy western economy. They will support Russia to overcome the sanctions if it gets too bad. It would be strategically very wise of them to do so, basically sacrificing part of the Russian economy to collapse the petro dollar and the whole financial world order...There's no way EU industries will survive without russian gas, sure they might diversify but it will double their energy costs. Who will want to buy such overpriced products then?
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Putin's fantasies vs reality

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Russian helicopters invading Ukraine
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That is a photo from May 9 military parade (the chopper in the background is painted in Russian flag colors).

Poor, poor schizophrenic Ukes.
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So the Americans are forcing Russia into war, the same way they did Japan. Niiiiice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42706413


gotta do something to protect the almighty dollar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379065


Yes, I belive so too. But, no mater what the Ukraine crisis will be, the change of paradigm considering petrodollar and dollar as main reserve currency WILL change, no matter what. Dollar will die, that is matter of fact and is not stoppable. Only question is - when.

All great empires have their time of ascend, time when they're strongest, time of decline, and time of collapse. US of A will not be an exception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57227502

When will the USD die?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42706413


I belive it's a matter of 10, maybe 20 years. It's not a sudden event but a process. And that process has already begun...


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