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messi17 User ID: 62322771 France 09/03/2014 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Four NATO warships from US, France, Canada and Spain will reportedly enter Black Sea waters this week, a diplomatic and military source said. [link to rt.com] man |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61708997 United States 09/03/2014 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian General Calls for Preemptive Nuclear Strike Doctrine Against NATO Quoting: Falter [link to www.themoscowtimes.com] |
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Falter User ID: 58276109 Sweden 09/03/2014 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 zerohedge ‏@zerohedge 2 min President Hollande: France suspends plans to deliver warship to Russia amid Ukraine tensions: AP "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
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°Lucy° User ID: 62267864 Germany 09/03/2014 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 [link to www.whitehouse.gov] Remarks by President Obama to the People of Estonia And this week, NATO must send an unmistakable message in support of Ukraine as well. Our Alliance has had a partnership with Ukraine for more than 20 years. Ukrainian forces have served with distinction in NATO operations in the Balkans and Afghanistan. So in Wales, we’ll meet as an Alliance with President Poroshenko to show that our 28 nations are united in support of Ukraine’s sovereignty and right to defend its territory. Now, Ukraine needs more than words. NATO needs to make concrete commitments to help Ukraine modernize and strengthen its security forces. And, by the way, we have to do more to help other NATO Partners, including Georgia and Moldova, strengthen their defenses as well. (Applause.) And we must reaffirm the principle that has always guided our Alliance -- for countries that meet our standards and that can make meaningful contributions to allied security, the door to NATO membership will remain open. So this is a moment of testing. The actions of the separatists in Ukraine and Russia evoke dark tactics from Europe’s past that ought to be consigned to a distant history. Masked men storming buildings. Soldiers without flags slipping across the border. Violence sending families fleeing and killing thousands, including nearly 300 innocent men, women and children from all across Europe and around the world when that airliner was shot out of the sky. In the face of violence that seems intractable and suffering that is so senseless, it is easy to grow cynical, and I think tempting to give in to the notion that peace and security may be beyond our grasp. "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
FormerlyBritish User ID: 60582120 United States 09/03/2014 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ah okay the french are being bold, makes a change there has Russia paid for the Ships ? Quoting: Anderson_G Paid for one out of two. France faces huge financial penalties if defaulting on the contract for the one that is paid for. It can just walk away on the second ship though. Plus it must remove Russian made armament platforms already welded in place and return them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2043241 United States 09/03/2014 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ah okay the french are being bold, makes a change there has Russia paid for the Ships ? Quoting: Anderson_G Paid for one out of two. France faces huge financial penalties if defaulting on the contract for the one that is paid for. It can just walk away on the second ship though. Plus it must remove Russian made armament platforms already welded in place and return them. If this is accurate, France would likely argue that "suspending plans" is not default, at least not yet. In this way they keep the door open and allow for the possibility that future circumstances may provide them a better legal defense if they ultimately do cancel. As with everything, better to wait for the details and Russia's response before drawing definitive conclusions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1519997 Sweden 09/03/2014 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @shaunwalker7: The diplo exchange of the year continues (h/t @maxseddon) [link to twitter.com (secure)] My god, Twitter delivers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 47301683 United States 09/03/2014 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ah okay the french are being bold, makes a change there has Russia paid for the Ships ? Quoting: Anderson_G Paid for one out of two. France faces huge financial penalties if defaulting on the contract for the one that is paid for. It can just walk away on the second ship though. Plus it must remove Russian made armament platforms already welded in place and return them. If this is accurate, France would likely argue that "suspending plans" is not default, at least not yet. In this way they keep the door open and allow for the possibility that future circumstances may provide them a better legal defense if they ultimately do cancel. As with everything, better to wait for the details and Russia's response before drawing definitive conclusions. Not to mention the fact that RF Navy personnel have been training on the first Mistral ship for the past two months. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3837424 Nepal 09/03/2014 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 zerohedge ‏@zerohedge 2 min Quoting: Falter President Hollande: France suspends plans to deliver warship to Russia amid Ukraine tensions: AP Ah okay the french are being bold, makes a change there has Russia paid for the Ships ? i bet they paid some! that said warships are really only good for pr and patrolling thesedays, its all about missile tech and subs now imo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62478444 Germany 09/03/2014 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia has already paid France quite a bit... unless the EU plans to buy those ships so France can give Russia that money back without making catastrophic losses I don't doubt that while France may have been pressured into delaying the sale they will still do so eventually I kept hoping they wouldn't budge. They said it was still going to go ahead some fifteen days ago. Oh well... the EUSA prevails. |
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FormerlyBritish User ID: 60582120 United States 09/03/2014 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russia has already paid France quite a bit... unless the EU plans to buy those ships so France can give Russia that money back without making catastrophic losses I don't doubt that while France may have been pressured into delaying the sale they will still do so eventually Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62478444 I kept hoping they wouldn't budge. They said it was still going to go ahead some fifteen days ago. Oh well... the EUSA prevails. It's a purely civil matter, they just need to pay Russia a huge sum of money is all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61708997 United States 09/03/2014 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 zerohedge ‏@zerohedge 2 min Quoting: Falter President Hollande: France suspends plans to deliver warship to Russia amid Ukraine tensions: AP Ah okay the french are being bold, makes a change there has Russia paid for the Ships ? Putin: "i'm gonna fuck-you-up." |
KneelB4Zod! User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/03/2014 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Vagelis Karmiros ‏@VagelisKarmiros 55 min. #Ukraine Meanwhile in #Kiev Bogdan Butsu was dismissed from the post of Deputy Minister of Defense. #Donbas “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 62141184 United States 09/03/2014 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61960827 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62045070 United Kingdom 09/03/2014 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ah okay the french are being bold, makes a change there has Russia paid for the Ships ? Quoting: Anderson_G Paid for one out of two. France faces huge financial penalties if defaulting on the contract for the one that is paid for. It can just walk away on the second ship though. Plus it must remove Russian made armament platforms already welded in place and return them. Alot of work there cheers buddy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62141184 United States 09/03/2014 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Lutugino Zelenopol'ye - another destroyed position of punitive forces from Banderstadt. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! Damn.......looks like war to me. Carpet bombed? All those tanks had the turrets blown off and the tracks melted away. No precision scalar weapons. Portable one man scalar weapons similar to manpads. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2043241 United States 09/03/2014 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Vagelis Karmiros ‏@VagelisKarmiros 55 min. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! #Ukraine Meanwhile in #Kiev Bogdan Butsu was dismissed from the post of Deputy Minister of Defense. #Donbas Why would Kiev need a command shakeup if the only reason for the reversals against the militia is a de facto Russian invasion? If so, why would that be blamed on the "heroic" ATO forces or their commanders? Interesting that they choose to have it both ways instead of settling on a single excuse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2043241 United States 09/03/2014 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Ah okay the french are being bold, makes a change there has Russia paid for the Ships ? Quoting: Anderson_G Paid for one out of two. France faces huge financial penalties if defaulting on the contract for the one that is paid for. It can just walk away on the second ship though. Plus it must remove Russian made armament platforms already welded in place and return them. Alot of work there cheers buddy Not sure France will pay a civil judgment anyway. Once this heats up all sorts of "unthinkable" results become thinkable. Not sure Russia will ever pay that $50 Billion judgment handed down by a kangaroo court either. Pot will be calling kettle black before this is over. |
KneelB4Zod! User ID: 22992427 Czechia 09/03/2014 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Entering Novosvetlovka. Destroyed banderistan vehicles... Last Edited by KneelB4Zod! on 09/03/2014 12:56 PM “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 61960827 France 09/03/2014 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Vagelis Karmiros ‏@VagelisKarmiros 55 min. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! #Ukraine Meanwhile in #Kiev Bogdan Butsu was dismissed from the post of Deputy Minister of Defense. #Donbas Why would Kiev need a command shakeup if the only reason for the reversals against the militia is a de facto Russian invasion? If so, why would that be blamed on the "heroic" ATO forces or their commanders? Interesting that they choose to have it both ways instead of settling on a single excuse. Where is that ephemeral Russian invasion? With the same credibility I could say may be Martian invasion. |
mkane User ID: 61392421 Qatar 09/03/2014 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Jon Wexford ‏@JONWEXFORD 2 Min. Quoting: °Lucy° Uh oh! Didn't the whole trouble with #Ukraine start because the EU wanted to enlarge? It's happening again. [link to euobserver.com] … Mogherini backs Western Balkan enlargement She singled out Albania as making the most progress and said Italy is looking to chair an Albania-Serbia meeting on better Serb relations with Kosovo. But she said Bosnia needs “profound reform” and there is no question of “artificially accelerating” EU ties. She admitted she has no idea how to solve the Macedonia-Greece name dispute, saying: “If I had the answer to that, I would maybe win the Nobel prize”. She also avoided questions on Turkey’s crackdown on civil liberties, saying only that EU accession talks can help “reinforce” Turkish reforms There is no such country named Macedonia, you morran Macedonia is a Greek geographical term and it be used only by Greece There is a republic of Macedonia commonly referred to as Macedonia before calling someone a moran you should look into a mirror to see what one resembles. You mean the Former Yugoslavian Republic of macedonia, known as Skopia. Those idiots that are trying desperately to get an identity by saying they are coming from the ancient macedonias, (when they are nothing more than slavs mixed with bulgarians and albanians), also known to be a race of ancient and nowadays Greeks. Well moron, read History and then take again a look at the mirror |
Falter User ID: 58276109 Sweden 09/03/2014 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RIA Novosti ‏@ria_novosti 28 s Russia to grant Mongolia provision of military and technical assistance "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
FormerlyBritish User ID: 60582120 United States 09/03/2014 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Not sure France will pay a civil judgment anyway. Once this heats up all sorts of "unthinkable" results become thinkable. Not sure Russia will ever pay that $50 Billion judgment handed down by a kangaroo court either. Pot will be calling kettle black before this is over. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2043241 There are lots of ways it can go. But they all have one thing in common - France loses big time. If not immediately in money it is seen by the world as an unreliable supplier. |
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