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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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there is something wrong with this guys throat
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its called lying... nervous in every press conference i have seen him in... everyone has a tell his is just REALLY OBVIOUS...
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Neither the Europeans nor the Americans will begin a shooting war against Russia over a place that is so unimportant for the West, like the Crimean, or even the full Ukraine.

Regarding other ways of sanctioning the Russians, economically and politically, the Kremlin has more than enough capacities and options to fully retaliate for any such step.

In the end, there will be much loud wording, and time passing, then a compromise will be declared and a cleaning of relations, and anything will settle down, with the Crimean having switched sides and Kiew's reputation being left in the dust. Will serve as a drastic disillusioning to Klitschko, I guess, whom I still see as relatively naive.

The Crimean is too important for the Russians, they cannot give it up, they just cannot. No use in seeing it through EU's eyes, the only realistic perspective here is by seeing it through Russian eyes.

This is a fight that is not worth enough for us to pick it up foolish-heartedly.

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You are ignoring something very important here...

What about the humiliation Obongo and Horseface will have to withstand if the US doesn't intervene.
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Your forgetting in the very recent past they tucked in their tails and ran before... Syria.. georgia as examples
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Ukraine presenter just demanded that Russian military steps back from Crimea. We think russia will advance, their parliament authorization included the full name of Ukraine.
"The master understands that the universe is always out of control".
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The 5th Dimension principal of harmony reveals that supporting others creates strength. The lower dimension mind believes that acquiring or taking from others makes you stronger. Yet, as you can imagine, if all people desire to "take" from others, the fabric of the reality tears itself apart.
If you want to start prospering and growing stronger,start focusing on supporting others.

If you want to start prospering and growing stronger, focus on supporting others where you can. Give to others that cross YOUR PATH and you soon discover you will be given more. The 5th Dimension principal of harmony means that you will always have an abundance to do a good work.
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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someone should make that idk dance into a gif
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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I will rather say lets see IF it ever stops.. this is the 4th nation Russia will annixiate.
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Of course, because Russia never goes on the worlds largest rape rampage at the end of ww2. GTFO! If Russians invade USA I'm retreating to defensible position or fleeing. Russians are cruel. As a generality. Of. Course there are nice cool people everywhere. But their soldiers, cops, and intelligence are psychos, historically anyway.
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so why no one from Europe or anyone will tell him you can go we invate you or I dont know what

only this forum lots of tolk but when somone from Ukraine came and said he is afraid why no one search how to help him to move out .

Rememeber if in the eastern part of the Ukraine is so many Russians so you thinking they can not ask for help

other subject is was this help necesery maybe even not

and another subject : Russian soldiers moving or staying in the east part where are Russians living ?

staying
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Invasion not a war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54922531


This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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 Quoting: F-BVFA


No it's not. Russian presenter @ UN press conference just said :" We think Russia may invade Western Ukraine, their parliament authorization had the full name of Ukraine in it, which is very concerning. This is also why we placed our military on high alert"
"The master understands that the universe is always out of control".
-Lao Tzu


The 5th Dimension principal of harmony reveals that supporting others creates strength. The lower dimension mind believes that acquiring or taking from others makes you stronger. Yet, as you can imagine, if all people desire to "take" from others, the fabric of the reality tears itself apart.
If you want to start prospering and growing stronger,start focusing on supporting others.

If you want to start prospering and growing stronger, focus on supporting others where you can. Give to others that cross YOUR PATH and you soon discover you will be given more. The 5th Dimension principal of harmony means that you will always have an abundance to do a good work.
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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No it's not! Russian troops on Ukraine mainland already...
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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If you seriously believe that you don't know Russia very well.
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Medvedev tells Yatsenyuk about responsibility for possible use of force against Russians

Russia March 02, 2:11 UTC+4
MOSCOW, March 02, /ITAR-TASS/. Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev had a telephone conversation Saturday with Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk appointed by Ukraine’s parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, noting Russia’s interest to preserve stable and friendly relations with Ukraine, the Russian government press service reported on Sunday.

“Meanwhile, it was noted that Russia retains the right to protect legitimate interests of Russian citizens and servicemen stationed in the autonomous republic of Crimea,” the press service said.

Russian armed forces “are empowered to act according to a mandate given to the Russian president by Federation Council upper house of parliament if necessary,” Medvedev said.

“At the conversation Medvedev also noted responsibility of Ukrainian officials if any unlawful decisions are taken for use of force against Russian citizens,” the press service said.
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The russian fereration speech was filled with BS.. he was voted out legally, Vote of no confidence, he did not have support of a majority...

thats just bs.
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The laws where you live must be very different from where I live...
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Yes the parliament majority elects the leader,, If a vote of No confidence is issued and resolved that person was essentially voted out.
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In Ukraine prime minister appointed by President and President elected by people. There's no "no-confidence".

Even under 2004 constitution there is no no-confidence - Rada can replace prime minister but not ptesident. Rada can impeach president but only after proving crime. This has not happened - so Yanukovich still legally the president.
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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No it's not. Russian presenter @ UN press conference just said :" We think Russia may invade Western Ukraine, their parliament authorization had the full name of Ukraine in it, which is very concerning. This is also why we placed our military on high alert"
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makes no sense
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BBC reporter saying highly unlikely NATO will be mobilised and for now Ukraines fate to be left to Russia.
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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 Quoting: F-BVFA


Based on what the Ukrainian ambassador to the UN said they are not going to fight for the Crimea.
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that guy really knows how to clear his throat, he likes to tell stories too!
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You're right. I had nothing left to do but wait for further developments.

But there is another reason for my fear - looting. "Titushki" bandits and thieves will rob civilians (although they are engaged in peacetime unpunished crime).
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If you see "Titushki" call Russian army for help tell them this what you are telling me .
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Putin tells UN head Russia can’t stay aside if violence flares in Ukraine

Russia March 02, 2:19 UTC+4
MOSCOW, March 02, /ITAR-TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon stating that if violent actions are taken against Russian speakers in eastern Ukrainian regions and Crimea Russia cannot stay aside and will take necessary measures according to international law, the Kremlin press service reported on Sunday.

Both sides noted that further escalation of the crisis in Ukraine should be averted.
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Recipe for Chicken Kiev:

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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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If you seriously believe that you don't know Russia very well.
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I agree,, most people outside eurpoe or without dealing with Russia, doesn't know Russia well.. I was their for a period of time, Siberia.. Worse experience ever.. Its inhuman and ruled by the rich, the laws are made up as they go and if you have money you can send your competitors to death.. There is no diplomacy when it comes to Russia.
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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 Quoting: F-BVFA


No it's not! Russian troops on Ukraine mainland already...
 Quoting: Luisport


Exactly! USA presenter said also that Russia must pull back their troops. So it's Ukraine Kiev gov & US & probably EU backing that idea, also the UK. But we know Russia won't do that!
"The master understands that the universe is always out of control".
-Lao Tzu


The 5th Dimension principal of harmony reveals that supporting others creates strength. The lower dimension mind believes that acquiring or taking from others makes you stronger. Yet, as you can imagine, if all people desire to "take" from others, the fabric of the reality tears itself apart.
If you want to start prospering and growing stronger,start focusing on supporting others.

If you want to start prospering and growing stronger, focus on supporting others where you can. Give to others that cross YOUR PATH and you soon discover you will be given more. The 5th Dimension principal of harmony means that you will always have an abundance to do a good work.
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Can somebody explain to me this

Why does USA go to all these places half way around the world and literally drops bombs and kill alot of people in the name of protecting its people at home and no one can say a word about it

But when Russia steps into a neighbouring country in the name of protecting Russian people not at home but those that are living there and doesnt open with an all out bombardment that doesnt differentiate innocent from non innocent like the USA does but puts immedietly boots on the ground and isnt being a pussy about it all hell breaks loose and its hell no where do you get the balls to do that Putin

I mean i sort of understand if EU says something about it although they are far from innocent in that department, but the USA has the decency to even show its face here. Seriously? Cmon
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Violent Attacks on Journalists in Ukraine

Mogens Blicher Bjerregård, President of the Danish Union of Journalists and the European Federation of Journalists, and Deputy Chairperson of the International Media Support gave his personal account on his visit to Ukraine on 19 & 20 February in an International Partnership Mission.

Journalists were among the first victims of the fighting in the streets of Kiev. The events of the past week were the culmination of a protracted period of attacks on journalists and the free media.

Video-documented attacks on journalists in Ukraine, in which the profession of journalism in itself has been under attack, must now really get the world community to understand that the attacks on journalists must stop.

The brutal murder of Vyacheslav Veremei in Kiev happened during this violent period from 18 to 20 February. Before he was killed, Veremei said that he was a journalist. He was then pulled out of the car and beaten, before being shot when he attempted to escape. He was merely doing his job, and leaves behind a son aged four. A further 50 journalists were assaulted during the same period, often by the police who seemed to stand passively while watching Kiev burned.

Governments around the world have a great responsibility to send out clear signals to each other and to their police and military that journalists must be able to perform their journalistic work without fear or danger, which is one of the cornerstones of democratic development. Many journalists do their work with great courage and take considerable risk for their lives. They need protection, and must not become targets for government forces or rebels.

[link to www.ifj.org]

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Russian Union of Journalists Expresses Solidarity with Journalists in Ukraine

IFJ/EFJ affiliate, the Russian Union of Journalists (RUJ), expresses its solidarity with journalists in Ukraine and supports the demand of the National Union of Journalists of Ukraine (NUJU) and the Independent Media Trade Union of Ukraine (IMTUU) to immediately find and punish all those involved in violence against journalists in Kyiv and other cities of the country in recent weeks.

[link to www.ifj.org]

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U.S. ambassador to the UN: Ukraine should send UN and OSCE observers

International Panorama 2 марта, 2:18 UTC+4
UN, March 2. / ITAR-TASS /. Ukraine should immediately send international observers, including from the United Nations and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). This was announced on Saturday the U.S. permanent representative to the UN, Samantha Power, speaking at a meeting of the Security Council on the situation in Ukraine.

"International observers, including the UN and the OSCE, should be immediately sent to Ukraine. This - the best way of the actual situation, to monitor the situation and prevent any wrongdoing," - said Power.
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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If you seriously believe that you don't know Russia very well.
 Quoting: Lol 55016091


I agree,, most people outside eurpoe or without dealing with Russia, doesn't know Russia well.. I was their for a period of time, Siberia.. Worse experience ever.. Its inhuman and ruled by the rich, the laws are made up as they go and if you have money you can send your competitors to death.. There is no diplomacy when it comes to Russia.
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Sounds like the West!
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Can we get this thread pinned again?
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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 Quoting: F-BVFA


No it's not. Ukrainian presenter @ UN press conference just said :" We think Russia may invade Western Ukraine, their parliament authorization had the full name of Ukraine in it, which is very concerning. This is also why we placed our military on high alert"
 Quoting: FunkY


makes no sense
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Of course it makes no sense, but those are his words, not mine. That's the stance of the Ukrainian Kiev gov. Oh I mean Ukrainian, not Russian.

Last Edited by FunkY on 03/01/2014 05:26 PM
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The 5th Dimension principal of harmony reveals that supporting others creates strength. The lower dimension mind believes that acquiring or taking from others makes you stronger. Yet, as you can imagine, if all people desire to "take" from others, the fabric of the reality tears itself apart.
If you want to start prospering and growing stronger,start focusing on supporting others.

If you want to start prospering and growing stronger, focus on supporting others where you can. Give to others that cross YOUR PATH and you soon discover you will be given more. The 5th Dimension principal of harmony means that you will always have an abundance to do a good work.
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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 Quoting: F-BVFA


But you can't do that. That's worse than coup. That's rule #1 in international law: don't invade or attack other countries. That's not okay. The defense industry, contractor industry, the military industrial complex who a donate a lot of money political all just got adrelinine boost and you can bet that the lobbiest are as likely on the phone with Obummer as generals. The wing nut crusaders the Christian Right too. War helps in polls for presidents, and the right could offer to ease up on their obstructionism for the rest of his term. I don't want war, but I do think it's more possible than some of you. The economy still sucks you know.
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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 Quoting: F-BVFA


If you seriously believe that you don't know Russia very well.
 Quoting: Lol 55016091


I agree,, most people outside eurpoe or without dealing with Russia, doesn't know Russia well.. I was their for a period of time, Siberia.. Worse experience ever.. Its inhuman and ruled by the rich, the laws are made up as they go and if you have money you can send your competitors to death.. There is no diplomacy when it comes to Russia.
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Invasion not a war.
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This is only about the Crimea for now. Not the rest of the Ukraine.

Not that Russia is going to seize Kiev or Kharkov or Lvov. This is only about Russia taking back the Crimea for now.

Let's wait and see how it goes.

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 Quoting: F-BVFA


No it's not. Russian presenter @ UN press conference just said :" We think Russia may invade Western Ukraine, their parliament authorization had the full name of Ukraine in it, which is very concerning. This is also why we placed our military on high alert"
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I had no clue.

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