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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Battle footage:#Novorossiya Self Defense fighting for control over #Donetsk airport,clearing hangars [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] … via @Jaxenatix


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VICTORY!!!!!!!!!
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Just imagine how much easier it would be to clear that area if they had a few camera equipped quadcopter drones with decent encrypted comms and all data relayed to a local mobile command centre.
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Roses Have Thorns (part1)
Euromaidan and Crimea

Watch it. Watch them all.
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EU sanctions against Russia over its conduct during the conflict in Ukraine may be scrapped entirely, says European Council President Herman Van Rompuy. The reason is that the Russian counter-sanctions has become very expensive for the EU member countries.
Most likely, however, that sanctions are retained according to several EU diplomats that have spoken to Reuters.
[link to www.friatider.se]

It's funny to me that EU can't handle the Russian counter-sanctions. The moral of the story is that EUs economy is very fragile and it can't handle sanctions, but they can't drop the sanctions against Russia because USA would go apeshit if they did.

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The New Russia Army already has at least one quadcopter drone, and I believe they have already operationally deployed it.

Oh, I guess these things can also be shot-down.

Perhaps it was?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]



Or perhaps thus far they have only one?

Do the Western militaries have these?
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VICTORY!!!!!!!!!
banana2banana2banana2banana2banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381
Not yet (area behind red line is in the militia hands):
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
Still more than 75% awaiting for cleansing/liberation.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

The problem is not so much the area above ground as the Stalin era nuclear war bunker below ground.

I never heard what became of the plan to divert the sewers into there.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


SMOKE 'em out
some tires, some diesel, some fans
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The cockroaches sitting underground for months in Donetsk airport will be smoked out pretty soon...Long live the NAF. Putin world leader N°1 of the 21st century
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VICTORY!!!!!!!!!
banana2banana2banana2banana2banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381
Not yet (area behind red line is in the militia hands):
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
Still more than 75% awaiting for cleansing/liberation.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

The problem is not so much the area above ground as the Stalin era nuclear war bunker below ground.
I never heard what became of the plan to divert the sewers into there.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

SMOKE 'em out some tires, some diesel, some fans
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381

Nuclear war bunkers were expressly designed to defeat that kind of thing, with multiple redundant systems. Hell, if you can survive radioactive air you can survive tyre smoke for a day or two.

But I still don't see how they could defeat blocking their drains with rubbish and diverting rubbish filled storm sewers (and sanitary sewers).
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Berlin Gas Talks LIVE

sorry... appears to be ending
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I don't know wtf there is to talk. Does the EU want to pay norwegian gas prices of 800 USD or russian of 360-500 USD. Either way Russia won't lower the prices bc they already are the lowest on the market and the EU has proven to be an unreliable partner...
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The Russian Ruble is taking a beating today.
Latest from XE.COM is around RUB/USD 39.1535
The weakest it has been in modern times.

Perhaps on rumors of a gas settlement with Ukraine.

Meanwhile GazpromNeft (not Gazprom) and Rosneft both say they want more trade denominated in Rubles.

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The Russian Ruble is taking a beating today.
Latest from XE.COM is around RUB/USD 39.1535

Perhaps on rumors of a gas settlement with Ukraine.

Meanwhile GazpromNeft (not Gazprom) and Rosneft both say they want more trade denominated in Rubles.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


A weakened currency makes your exports cheaper... increases trade. No?
The weaker the ruble, the more affordable the gas to the importers. No?
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The Russian Ruble is taking a beating today.
Latest from XE.COM is around RUB/USD 39.1535
Perhaps on rumors of a gas settlement with Ukraine.
Meanwhile GazpromNeft (not Gazprom) and Rosneft both say they want more trade denominated in Rubles.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish
A weakened currency makes your exports cheaper... increases trade. No?
The weaker the ruble, the more affordable the gas to the importers. No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381

Only if it is priced in Rubles.
Right now, as far as I know, only Belarus have a (gas) contract of any size priced in Russian Rubles.
Most others chose Euros. I think Ukraine is still contracted in US Dollars (at $480 or $485), no new contract has been agreed and Ukraine seems to want to deal in US Dollars unlike EU countries.

And "Neft" (loosely) means oil. GazpromNeft is basically the oil company, not the gas company.

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The Russian Ruble is taking a beating today.
Latest from XE.COM is around RUB/USD 39.1535
Perhaps on rumors of a gas settlement with Ukraine.
Meanwhile GazpromNeft (not Gazprom) and Rosneft both say they want more trade denominated in Rubles.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish
A weakened currency makes your exports cheaper... increases trade. No?
The weaker the ruble, the more affordable the gas to the importers. No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381

Only if it is priced in Rubles.
Right now, as far as I know, only Belarus have a contract of any size priced in Russian Rubles.
Most others chose Euros. I think Ukraine is still contracted in US Dollars (at $480 or $485), no new contract has been agreed and Ukraine seems to want to deal in US Dollars unlike EU countries.

And "Neft" (loosely) means oil. GazpromNeft is basically the oil company, not the gas company.
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Appreciate your comments here. Keep going.

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The Russian Ruble is taking a beating today.
Latest from XE.COM is around RUB/USD 39.1535
Perhaps on rumors of a gas settlement with Ukraine.
Meanwhile GazpromNeft (not Gazprom) and Rosneft both say they want more trade denominated in Rubles.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish
A weakened currency makes your exports cheaper... increases trade. No?
The weaker the ruble, the more affordable the gas to the importers. No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381

Only if it is priced in Rubles.
Right now, as far as I know, only Belarus have a contract of any size priced in Russian Rubles.
Most others chose Euros. I think Ukraine is still contracted in US Dollars (at $480 or $485), no new contract has been agreed and Ukraine seems to want to deal in US Dollars unlike EU countries.

And "Neft" (loosely) means oil. GazpromNeft is basically the oil company, not the gas company.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


Ok.
Therefore: BRIC nations must be happy with a weakened ruble. No?
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The Russian Ruble is taking a beating today.
Latest from XE.COM is around RUB/USD 39.1535
Perhaps on rumors of a gas settlement with Ukraine.
Meanwhile GazpromNeft (not Gazprom) and Rosneft both say they want more trade denominated in Rubles.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish
A weakened currency makes your exports cheaper... increases trade. No?
The weaker the ruble, the more affordable the gas to the importers. No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381

Only if it is priced in Rubles.
Right now, as far as I know, only Belarus have a contract of any size priced in Russian Rubles.
Most others chose Euros. I think Ukraine is still contracted in US Dollars (at $480 or $485), no new contract has been agreed and Ukraine seems to want to deal in US Dollars unlike EU countries.
And "Neft" (loosely) means oil. GazpromNeft is basically the oil company, not the gas company.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

Appreciate your comments here. Keep going.
Thank you.
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Yes, since they want Russian exports (not just hydrocarbons) to preferably be priced in Rubles - then -
if the Ruble is to be devalued they want decline in value to happen sooner rather than later.
That is why the Russian Central bank said it will no longer support the Ruble but will allow it to find its own level.
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The Russian Ruble is taking a beating today.
Latest from XE.COM is around RUB/USD 39.1535
Perhaps on rumors of a gas settlement with Ukraine.
Meanwhile GazpromNeft (not Gazprom) and Rosneft both say they want more trade denominated in Rubles.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish
A weakened currency makes your exports cheaper... increases trade. No?
The weaker the ruble, the more affordable the gas to the importers. No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381

Only if it is priced in Rubles.
Right now, as far as I know, only Belarus have a contract of any size priced in Russian Rubles.
Most others chose Euros. I think Ukraine is still contracted in US Dollars (at $480 or $485), no new contract has been agreed and Ukraine seems to want to deal in US Dollars unlike EU countries.
And "Neft" (loosely) means oil. GazpromNeft is basically the oil company, not the gas company.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

Ok.
Therefore: BRIC nations must be happy with a weakened ruble. No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381

Who knows? Not me.

I do know that Russia wants to promote export of manufactured goods. That is why, for example, they made a deal with Iran to swap 500k barrels of crude per day for Russian manufactured goods. This 500k barrels is exempt from oil export limits against Iran because it is for Russian domestic consumption (after refining), not for re-export. Of course it frees up for export Russian oil that would otherwise be used domestically. :-)
Another example, they manufacture huge volumes of government-made rifle ammo they want to export to BRICS countries since the West no longer wishes to buy.
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yet ANOTHER debt Porky must pay...

Russia threatens to claim a $3 billion of loan Putin-Yanukovych

[link to novosti.dn.ua]
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Pity that neither President of Ukraine, nor the government don't have balls - how it's possible to discuss some trade transactions with the aggressor and the invader ! Besides, the country suffering from an agression should not finance an agressor. Russia, you see, threatens to claim something ! Let Russia put its threats into its ass. Seems Russia forgets that it is awaiting numerous lawsuits for Crimea - time will come.
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crazyjak no proof whatsoever for your zombi bullshit.
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EU sanctions against Russia over its conduct during the conflict in Ukraine may be scrapped entirely, says European Council President Herman Van Rompuy. The reason is that the Russian counter-sanctions has become very expensive for the EU member countries.
Most likely, however, that sanctions are retained according to several EU diplomats that have spoken to Reuters.
[link to www.friatider.se]

It's funny to me that EU can't handle the Russian counter-sanctions. The moral of the story is that EUs economy is very fragile and it can't handle sanctions, but they can't drop the sanctions against Russia because USA would go apeshit if they did.
 Quoting: Falter


A few weeks ago (as an AC) I told you that the EU is sanctioning itself to death, if they continue this. I think it's not only the counter-sanctions. Some spokespersons of a few big companies had warned about it long before the counter-sanctions, that our sanctions on Russia would affect the economy in the EU. There was a chart on ZH that showed that only the economy in the EU was obviously sinking. Russia was slightly climbing and USA went heavily upwarts.

Therefore "USA would go apeshit if they did." The EU gets Nulandized. If you have such friends you need no enemies.

rofl5
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Steiner ‏@Steiner1776 27 min.
Battle footage:#Novorossiya Self Defense fighting for control over #Donetsk airport,clearing hangars [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] … via @Jaxenatix

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

VICTORY!!!!!!!!!
banana2banana2banana2banana2banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381
Not yet (area behind red line is in the militia hands):
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
Still more than 75% awaiting for cleansing/liberation.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

The problem is not so much the area above ground as the Stalin era nuclear war bunker below ground.

I never heard what became of the plan to divert the sewers into there.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


There are also corridors wide enough to drive armour through underground. Almost impregnable.
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The New Russia Army already has at least one quadcopter drone, and I believe they have already operationally deployed it.

Oh, I guess these things can also be shot-down.

Perhaps it was?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]



Or perhaps thus far they have only one?

Do the Western militaries have these?
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You think the 1st AL Brigade "Imienia Ziemi Lubelskiej" from 1944 shot it down.?

Ok.

sheep
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VICTORY!!!!!!!!!
banana2banana2banana2banana2banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381
Not yet (area behind red line is in the militia hands):
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
Still more than 75% awaiting for cleansing/liberation.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

The problem is not so much the area above ground as the Stalin era nuclear war bunker below ground.

I never heard what became of the plan to divert the sewers into there.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


There are also corridors wide enough to drive armour through underground. Almost impregnable.
 Quoting: Matjaz


hesright That's why cockroaches survive for so long. Food and armor delivered through the tunnels.
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The New Russia Army already has at least one quadcopter drone, and I believe they have already operationally deployed it.

Oh, I guess these things can also be shot-down.

Perhaps it was?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]



Or perhaps thus far they have only one?

Do the Western militaries have these?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41988306


You think the 1st AL Brigade "Imienia Ziemi Lubelskiej" from 1944 shot it down.?

Ok.

sheep
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I am thinking it is not a real person posting that crap. It is bot which uses the same web address over and over again. And what's so funny it is always absolutely irrelevant. lol
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Steiner ‏@Steiner1776 27 min.
Battle footage:#Novorossiya Self Defense fighting for control over #Donetsk airport,clearing hangars [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] … via @Jaxenatix


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


VICTORY!!!!!!!!!
banana2banana2banana2banana2banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381


Not yet (area behind red line is in the militia hands):

[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]

Still more than 75% awaiting for cleansing/liberation.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


So called "Novorossiya Self Defense" speaking with a purely Russian accent ?! Great finding !

Ukraine troops defending the airport are real heros. Till now they succesfully mop up Russian "clearers" during their non stopable attempts to take control over the airport.
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What do you care?! There could be German or even American troops there, what is it to you? Donetsk is not Ukraine anymore. You will have to kill people living there before you get that land back. COMPRENDE?! The sooner you realize you are the invaders, the better your fate will be played out in the end.
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A weakened currency makes your exports cheaper... increases trade. No?
The weaker the ruble, the more affordable the gas to the importers. No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381

Only if it is priced in Rubles.
Right now, as far as I know, only Belarus have a contract of any size priced in Russian Rubles.
Most others chose Euros. I think Ukraine is still contracted in US Dollars (at $480 or $485), no new contract has been agreed and Ukraine seems to want to deal in US Dollars unlike EU countries.
And "Neft" (loosely) means oil. GazpromNeft is basically the oil company, not the gas company.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

Ok.
Therefore: BRIC nations must be happy with a weakened ruble. No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381

Who knows? Not me.

I do know that Russia wants to promote export of manufactured goods. That is why, for example, they made a deal with Iran to swap 500k barrels of crude per day for Russian manufactured goods. This 500k barrels is exempt from oil export limits against Iran because it is for Russian domestic consumption (after refining), not for re-export. Of course it frees up for export Russian oil that would otherwise be used domestically. :-)
Another example, they manufacture huge volumes of government-made rifle ammo they want to export to BRICS countries since the West no longer wishes to buy.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

yes.. thanks for commenting what you DO know :)
I enjoy chatting w/ you.
and
it should be said...
on the flip side...
a 'weakened currency' is hard on DOMESTIC economies
that DEPEND on imports... they become VERY expensive.
So Russian IMPORTERS are definitely NOT happy w/ a weak ruble.
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The Russian Ruble is taking a beating today.
Latest from XE.COM is around RUB/USD 39.1535

Perhaps on rumors of a gas settlement with Ukraine.

Meanwhile GazpromNeft (not Gazprom) and Rosneft both say they want more trade denominated in Rubles.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


A weakened currency makes your exports cheaper... increases trade. No?
The weaker the ruble, the more affordable the gas to the importers. No?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381


Is Russia a net exporter or importer? I think exporter. Then they will like it.
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VICTORY!!!!!!!!!
banana2banana2banana2banana2banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59329381
Not yet (area behind red line is in the militia hands):
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
Still more than 75% awaiting for cleansing/liberation.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

The problem is not so much the area above ground as the Stalin era nuclear war bunker below ground.
I never heard what became of the plan to divert the sewers into there.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish
There are also corridors wide enough to drive armour through underground. Almost impregnable.
 Quoting: Matjaz

It's ironic really.

First World War Mustard Gas would sort that out (Mustard Gas is actually a volatile liquid despite the name). But in spite of all the inhuman things that have been done that is considered too much, too outrageous. Even for people who must be killed anyway.
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Not yet (area behind red line is in the militia hands):
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
Still more than 75% awaiting for cleansing/liberation.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

The problem is not so much the area above ground as the Stalin era nuclear war bunker below ground.

I never heard what became of the plan to divert the sewers into there.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


There are also corridors wide enough to drive armour through underground. Almost impregnable.
 Quoting: Matjaz


hesright That's why cockroaches survive for so long. Food and armor delivered through the tunnels.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 62988883


I dont know if these corridors are conected with outside but complex under the airport is supposed to be pretty vast.
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Not yet (area behind red line is in the militia hands):
[link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)]
Still more than 75% awaiting for cleansing/liberation.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!

The problem is not so much the area above ground as the Stalin era nuclear war bunker below ground.
I never heard what became of the plan to divert the sewers into there.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish
There are also corridors wide enough to drive armour through underground. Almost impregnable.
 Quoting: Matjaz

It's ironic really.

First World War Mustard Gas would sort that out (Mustard Gas is actually a volatile liquid despite the name). But in spite of all the inhuman things that have been done that is considered too much, too outrageous. Even for people who must be killed anyway.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


I dont see the airpot that much important. By now, it became a symbolic trophy a morale booster. Ukies wcould never use it for operational base. AA around it is to strong.
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The New Russia Army already has at least one quadcopter drone, and I believe they have already operationally deployed it.

Oh, I guess these things can also be shot-down.

Perhaps it was?


[link to michalw.narod.ru]



Or perhaps thus far they have only one?

Do the Western militaries have these?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41988306


You think the 1st AL Brigade "Imienia Ziemi Lubelskiej" from 1944 shot it down.?

Ok.

sheep
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I am thinking it is not a real person posting that crap. It is bot which uses the same web address over and over again. And what's so funny it is always absolutely irrelevant. lol
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Or its this one/group/splitted personality as I descibed here

Thread: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 (Page 6159)

and here

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09/26/2014 02:36 PM
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Lavrov:
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Russia never sought and will not seek destruction of Ukrainian economy

Moscow will do everything possible to assist in successful dialogue between Kiev and self-proclaimed republics in east Ukraine

Ukraine should not abandon its non-alignment status as it is key element of European security

NATO expansion is mistake, provocation and attempt to undermine security system based on equality of rights

Russia has not initiated current standoff with US and will not succumb to sanctions pressure

Obama's claims of Russia posing major global threat are not supported by international community

Russia will firmly demand open, independent investigation of mass murders in Eastern Ukraine during conflict
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Czech President Milos Zeman urged to lift sanctions imposed on Russia
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09/26/2014 02:43 PM
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Just an interesting map of world powers economic sphere of influence. Data is from 2012/2013. Germany threatened by Russia in Europe after Russia was displaced from cental Asia by China. China looks the most dominant and USA is losing in Africa, Asia and even s. America. By Chinese ofcourse:

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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
so .... after all news ukraine have gas for winter ??





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