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Russia is heading towards North Korea status
- the ruble is collapsing hard and in freefall nosedive and this will continue indefinitely,
- the Kremlin is growing more authoritarian rapidly by the day,
- rights and freedoms are being taken away at a record pace,
- the police state that already had the highest # of police per people of any nation is growing,
- a state of severe xenophobia is being cultivated by the Kremlin and it's controlled media,
- the Kremlin is growing militant rapidly by the day and cultivating a strong militancy among the people,
- and the Kremlin is isolating the country from external forces that threaten the rule of the oligarchs.
All of this will become extremely severe as the oligarchs try to save themselves and their corrupt bribery pyramid system that they thrive from.
Russia and Russians are heading towards North Korean status, governmentally, economically, and socially. This is all because of the desire of a little more than 100 elite Russian oligarchs who would rather try to maintain as much oligarch status, money, power as possible while the country falls into isolation, despair, and ruin... Instead of giving in, doing the right thing and ending the corrupt, greedy mafia kleptocracy that rules Russia(and was* also ruling Ukraine) and steals from the Russian people to maintain its power.
It is irrational for the people of Russia to sit back and allow this to happen, but that is exactly what they are doing.
Russians, please study North Korea very well because your future is identical to that unless you take concerted action against the oligarchs and reform your country. Even Rogozin tried to prove how lovely and ideal a country North Korea is.
[In before a Russian tells me that 'no but Putin is fighting the oligarchs' when in reality he is the richest oligarch on the planet and surrounds himself with oligarchs. and this is exactly why Russia is heading towards North Korean status, because the people are falling for a massive web of lies that is being used against them.]
Thread: Russia is headed towards North Korean status rapidly
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Even if we were to accept all that as true - Russia is still the only nation able and willing to take a stand against American hegemony and put a stop to it.
The only hope the world has really.
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Russia is heading towards North Korea status
- the ruble is collapsing hard and in freefall nosedive and this will continue indefinitely,
- the Kremlin is growing more authoritarian rapidly by the day,
- rights and freedoms are being taken away at a record pace,
- the police state that already had the highest # of police per people of any nation is growing,
- a state of severe xenophobia is being cultivated by the Kremlin and it's controlled media,
- the Kremlin is growing militant rapidly by the day and cultivating a strong militancy among the people,
- and the Kremlin is isolating the country from external forces that threaten the rule of the oligarchs.
All of this will become extremely severe as the oligarchs try to save themselves and their corrupt bribery pyramid system that they thrive from.
Russia and Russians are heading towards North Korean status, governmentally, economically, and socially. This is all because of the desire of a little more than 100 elite Russian oligarchs who would rather try to maintain as much oligarch status, money, power as possible while the country falls into isolation, despair, and ruin... Instead of giving in, doing the right thing and ending the corrupt, greedy mafia kleptocracy that rules Russia(and was* also ruling Ukraine) and steals from the Russian people to maintain its power.
It is irrational for the people of Russia to sit back and allow this to happen, but that is exactly what they are doing.
Russians, please study North Korea very well because your future is identical to that unless you take concerted action against the oligarchs and reform your country. Even Rogozin tried to prove how lovely and ideal a country North Korea is.
[In before a Russian tells me that 'no but Putin is fighting the oligarchs' when in reality he is the richest oligarch on the planet and surrounds himself with oligarchs. and this is exactly why Russia is heading towards North Korean status, because the people are falling for a massive web of lies that is being used against them.]
Thread: Russia is headed towards North Korean status rapidly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5649880

Even if we were to accept all that as true - Russia is still the only nation able and willing to take a stand against American hegemony and put a stop to it.
The only hope the world has really.
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Some pos country like Australia could do it on their own...
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Nice numbers. Thats never a good sign when people march in a support of a country thats in war. Its gona blow.
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@rConflictNews: NSDC meeting with president #Poroshenko has been going on for 4 hours now.

I thought it had ended?
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@ria_novosti: Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council backs #Poroshenko's submitting abolition of law on #Donbas special status to Parliament
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@ria_novosti: Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council backs #Poroshenko's submitting abolition of law on #Donbas special status to Parliament
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Ukraine must have already received and deployed the advanced weapons that are being provided by multiple nations.
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Cross the Dneiper and the Poles will intervene. Capture Odessa and the Rumanians will probably intervene, The russians want everything up to the Dneiper plus all Ukrainian ports like Odessa. They want to link up to their enclave in Moldova.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30474188


Poles start war against Russia? Not problem (for Russia) - so in Russia would be more territorie from ex-Poland. Rumains start war against us? No problem - see before ...
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This is so True. I hope Russia conquers the world so that we can travel anywhere we want without visas.
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laugh I love it! bonghit
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@ria_novosti: Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council backs #Poroshenko's submitting abolition of law on #Donbas special status to Parliament
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Ukraine must have already received and deployed the advanced weapons that are being provided by multiple nations.
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Burning of the Kerch...first and last deployment of such weapons.
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#NATO asks US for more troops in Baltic states, Poland to counter ‘Russia threat’
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 Quoting: Falter

Nope. America is broke, can't afford more troops anywhere. Half of US Navy is rotting in docks-can't afford to maintain them. All F22s are grounded, too expensive.
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Nice numbers. Thats never a good sign when people march in a support of a country thats in war. Its gona blow.
 Quoting: Matjaz


There is one another problem - for example Streklov refused to take a part in this rally. Organizers are strongly anti-Oligarchs, what is not problem of course. Strelkov is their critic too. But organizers (A.N. Savelyev) are also strong critics of the Russian government and this was something like preparation for revolution. At least this is how Strelkov sees it (he told "Organizing revolutions & coups in this situation - is roughly the same as setting fire to his own house").

So yep, it looks like some NATO shills was partly right. There is a group what is really pissed with Russian government.

But unfortunatelly for NATO shills it is not group of idiots which demonstrated for Ukraine. It si a group what represents hard line, what wants Great Russia, what supports Novorossiya and what is pissed because Russian present government do not enough to help Russians in Novorossiya. At least this is how I understand it. But someone from Russia can expalains it much more accurate...

Here are another parts of Strelkov's statement:

Steiner ‏@Steiner1776 2 hod.
Pt 1 #Strelkov: "Just listened to A.Saveleva speech from 3/11/14. I know that he is not the only organizer of the "Russian March"

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PT 2 #Strelkov: "In general I do not agree with his position,not because he criticizes the #Russia'n oligarchs"

Steiner ‏@Steiner1776 2 hod.
PT3 #Strelkov: "but he wants ot "demolish" the government of #Russia. the worst thing a russian patriot could make right now"

Steiner ‏@Steiner1776 2 hod.
PT4 #Strelkov: "This does not mean that "all is well" and that we should joyfully welcome the level of social injustice that exists today"

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PT5: #Strelkov:"But organizing revolutions & coups in this situation - is roughly the same as setting fire to his own house"
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Russia is heading towards North Korea status
- the ruble is collapsing hard and in freefall nosedive and this will continue indefinitely,
- the Kremlin is growing more authoritarian rapidly by the day,
- rights and freedoms are being taken away at a record pace,
- the police state that already had the highest # of police per people of any nation is growing,
- a state of severe xenophobia is being cultivated by the Kremlin and it's controlled media,
- the Kremlin is growing militant rapidly by the day and cultivating a strong militancy among the people,
- and the Kremlin is isolating the country from external forces that threaten the rule of the oligarchs.
All of this will become extremely severe as the oligarchs try to save themselves and their corrupt bribery pyramid system that they thrive from.
Russia and Russians are heading towards North Korean status, governmentally, economically, and socially. This is all because of the desire of a little more than 100 elite Russian oligarchs who would rather try to maintain as much oligarch status, money, power as possible while the country falls into isolation, despair, and ruin... Instead of giving in, doing the right thing and ending the corrupt, greedy mafia kleptocracy that rules Russia(and was* also ruling Ukraine) and steals from the Russian people to maintain its power.
It is irrational for the people of Russia to sit back and allow this to happen, but that is exactly what they are doing.
Russians, please study North Korea very well because your future is identical to that unless you take concerted action against the oligarchs and reform your country. Even Rogozin tried to prove how lovely and ideal a country North Korea is.
[In before a Russian tells me that 'no but Putin is fighting the oligarchs' when in reality he is the richest oligarch on the planet and surrounds himself with oligarchs. and this is exactly why Russia is heading towards North Korean status, because the people are falling for a massive web of lies that is being used against them.]
Thread: Russia is headed towards North Korean status rapidly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5649880

Even if we were to accept all that as true - Russia is still the only nation able and willing to take a stand against American hegemony and put a stop to it.
The only hope the world has really.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish

Russia lacks the ability of sustained global military projection. Russia's economy teeters on collapse. No where near the ability of the American economy.
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Nice numbers. Thats never a good sign when people march in a support of a country thats in war. Its gona blow.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Actually that's a rally for "Nation Unity" organized by "All-Russian National Front". "Pro-Novorossian" at the north of the city one was rather small - and so was "Nationalistic" (with some "pro-Urkainian" support) one at the south. "Pro-Novorossian" one was supported by Stelkov, but he revoked his approval of it after some anti-governmental claims made by one of the organizers.

"National Unity" rally was attended by all the major political forces for the first time this year - Communists are usually ignoring National Unity Day, having their own November 7th holiday close by. This time all four major parties joined into one column.

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Nice numbers. Thats never a good sign when people march in a support of a country thats in war. Its gona blow.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Actually that's a rally for "Nation Unity" organized by "All-Russian National Front". "Pro-Novorossian" at the north of the city one was rather small - and so was "Nationalistic" (with some "pro-Urkainian" support) one at the south. "Pro-Novorossian" one was supported by Stelkov, but he revoked his approval of it after some anti-governmental claims made by one of the organizers.

"National Unity" rally was attended by all the major political forces for the first time this year - Communists are usually ignoring National Unity Day, having their own November 7th holiday close by. This time all four major parties joined into one column.
 Quoting: Tamonten


Please check my comment above. I am sure I am wrong at some points. I drew from a variety of sources so there is something (maybe everything) wrong most probably...

cool2
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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#BreakingStatement "We see #Russian_troops approaching the border with #Ukraine." -@NATO

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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
________________________________________________________​__________________
"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
Quoting Dostoyevsky:
"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Russia is heading towards North Korea status




- the ruble is collapsing hard and in freefall nosedive and this will continue indefinitely,

- the Kremlin is growing more authoritarian rapidly by the day,

- rights and freedoms are being taken away at a record pace,

- the police state that already had the highest # of police per people of any nation is growing,

- a state of severe xenophobia is being cultivated by the Kremlin and it's controlled media,

- the Kremlin is growing militant rapidly by the day and cultivating a strong militancy among the people,

- and the Kremlin is isolating the country from external forces that threaten the rule of the oligarchs.




All of this will become extremely severe as the oligarchs try to save themselves and their corrupt bribery pyramid system that they thrive from.

Russia and Russians are heading towards North Korean status, governmentally, economically, and socially. This is all because of the desire of a little more than 100 elite Russian oligarchs who would rather try to maintain as much oligarch status, money, power as possible while the country falls into isolation, despair, and ruin... Instead of giving in, doing the right thing and ending the corrupt, greedy mafia kleptocracy that rules Russia(and was* also ruling Ukraine) and steals from the Russian people to maintain its power.

It is irrational for the people of Russia to sit back and allow this to happen, but that is exactly what they are doing.

Russians, please study North Korea very well because your future is identical to that unless you take concerted action against the oligarchs and reform your country. Even Rogozin tried to prove how lovely and ideal a country North Korea is.


[In before a Russian tells me that 'no but Putin is fighting the oligarchs' when in reality he is the richest oligarch on the planet and surrounds himself with oligarchs. and this is exactly why Russia is heading towards North Korean status, because the people are falling for a massive web of lies that is being used against them.]


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This is wrong on so many levels!
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#BreakingStatement "We see #Russian_troops approaching the border with #Ukraine." -@NATO

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Let me guess, its a border patrol shift change of approx. 10 and NATO sees 10,000
People still haven't learned to look past the MSM hype during any major event and instead inform themselves. Press Freedom doesn't exist, only the few in charge of this theater have the freedom to form your opinion by spreading their version of events. Be careful guys!
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#NATO asks US for more troops in Baltic states, Poland to counter ‘Russia threat’
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Nope. America is broke, can't afford more troops anywhere. Half of US Navy is rotting in docks-can't afford to maintain them. All F22s are grounded, too expensive.
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Nothing is too expensive with a state of war (For any country). All it takes is a willing populace.
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Nice numbers. Thats never a good sign when people march in a support of a country thats in war. Its gona blow.
 Quoting: Matjaz


Actually that's a rally for "Nation Unity" organized by "All-Russian National Front". "Pro-Novorossian" at the north of the city one was rather small - and so was "Nationalistic" (with some "pro-Urkainian" support) one at the south. "Pro-Novorossian" one was supported by Stelkov, but he revoked his approval of it after some anti-governmental claims made by one of the organizers.

"National Unity" rally was attended by all the major political forces for the first time this year - Communists are usually ignoring National Unity Day, having their own November 7th holiday close by. This time all four major parties joined into one column.
 Quoting: Tamonten


Please check my comment above. I am sure I am wrong at some points. I drew from a variety of sources so there is something (maybe everything) wrong most probably...

cool2
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Well, you are right for the most part.
My point is that there were several rallies at the same time. I believe, some people in MSM and here would mix them up (either intentionally or not).

North - "pro-Novorossia" - 2000-2500 people
Center - "National Unity" - 65000-75000 people
South - "Nationalistic" - 2000-2500 people

"North" is the one that tried to use Strelkov for advertisment, but failed because started to use antigovernmental slogans.
"Center" was organized by "All-Russian National Front" founded by Putin several years ago.
"South" was pure nationalistic with some pro-Ukrainians in it even.
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Cross the Dneiper and the Poles will intervene. Capture Odessa and the Rumanians will probably intervene, The russians want everything up to the Dneiper plus all Ukrainian ports like Odessa. They want to link up to their enclave in Moldova.
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Poles start war against Russia? Not problem (for Russia) - so in Russia would be more territorie from ex-Poland. Rumains start war against us? No problem - see before ...
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Not going to happen.

If Poland (and/or Hungary) want adjoining pieces of Ukraine they would be welcome to it from a Russian perspective.

Similarly Romania could have Moldova (excluding Pridnestrove and Gagauzia).

I can guarantee you that nobody but nobody wants Chernobyl/Pripyat.
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#NATO asks US for more troops in Baltic states, Poland to counter ‘Russia threat’
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Nope. America is broke, can't afford more troops anywhere. Half of US Navy is rotting in docks-can't afford to maintain them. All F22s are grounded, too expensive.
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Nothing is too expensive with a state of war (For any country). All it takes is a willing populace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64825635


And that's why Russia will not lose it's integrity in case of economical collapse.
Such collapse now can be clearly only the result of hostile actions by external forces. Which means war - of not the one declared or similiar to what we usually call so.
So far only USSR actually disbanded itself because of economical problems. And Putin is by no means similiar to Gorbachov to do the same.
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Austria's Dr. Alfons Proebstl: Russians love their children too!


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That man is a filthy, hell-bound fool. as to the children:
Many animals love their children too. You would be surprised that even the warriors of Golden Horde did love their progeny. Well, nevertheless, you have to check out on permanent the state of affairs regarding russian homeless children and the orphans. Good luck.
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Nope. America is broke, can't afford more troops anywhere. Half of US Navy is rotting in docks-can't afford to maintain them. All F22s are grounded, too expensive.
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Nothing is too expensive with a state of war (For any country). All it takes is a willing populace.
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And that's why Russia will not lose it's integrity in case of economical collapse.
Such collapse now can be clearly only the result of hostile actions by external forces. Which means war - of not the one declared or similiar to what we usually call so.
So far only USSR actually disbanded itself because of economical problems. And Putin is by no means similiar to Gorbachov to do the same.
 Quoting: Tamonten

You need to view the valuation curve of the Ruble. Then, look at Brent and WTI growth models. Russian economy is being hammered. At some point soon, Russian military costs will have to be restructured.
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Russia is heading towards North Korea status




- the ruble is collapsing hard and in freefall nosedive and this will continue indefinitely,

- the Kremlin is growing more authoritarian rapidly by the day,

- rights and freedoms are being taken away at a record pace,

- the police state that already had the highest # of police per people of any nation is growing,

- a state of severe xenophobia is being cultivated by the Kremlin and it's controlled media,

- the Kremlin is growing militant rapidly by the day and cultivating a strong militancy among the people,

- and the Kremlin is isolating the country from external forces that threaten the rule of the oligarchs.




All of this will become extremely severe as the oligarchs try to save themselves and their corrupt bribery pyramid system that they thrive from.

Russia and Russians are heading towards North Korean status, governmentally, economically, and socially. This is all because of the desire of a little more than 100 elite Russian oligarchs who would rather try to maintain as much oligarch status, money, power as possible while the country falls into isolation, despair, and ruin... Instead of giving in, doing the right thing and ending the corrupt, greedy mafia kleptocracy that rules Russia(and was* also ruling Ukraine) and steals from the Russian people to maintain its power.

It is irrational for the people of Russia to sit back and allow this to happen, but that is exactly what they are doing.

Russians, please study North Korea very well because your future is identical to that unless you take concerted action against the oligarchs and reform your country. Even Rogozin tried to prove how lovely and ideal a country North Korea is.


[In before a Russian tells me that 'no but Putin is fighting the oligarchs' when in reality he is the richest oligarch on the planet and surrounds himself with oligarchs. and this is exactly why Russia is heading towards North Korean status, because the people are falling for a massive web of lies that is being used against them.]


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This is wrong on so many levels!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64709901


+1 it's bizarre to watch this happen in real time. Russia is headed down the drain of an oligarch nightmare.
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Russia is heading towards North Korea status




- the ruble is collapsing hard and in freefall nosedive and this will continue indefinitely,

- the Kremlin is growing more authoritarian rapidly by the day,

- rights and freedoms are being taken away at a record pace,

- the police state that already had the highest # of police per people of any nation is growing,

- a state of severe xenophobia is being cultivated by the Kremlin and it's controlled media,

- the Kremlin is growing militant rapidly by the day and cultivating a strong militancy among the people,

- and the Kremlin is isolating the country from external forces that threaten the rule of the oligarchs.




All of this will become extremely severe as the oligarchs try to save themselves and their corrupt bribery pyramid system that they thrive from.

Russia and Russians are heading towards North Korean status, governmentally, economically, and socially. This is all because of the desire of a little more than 100 elite Russian oligarchs who would rather try to maintain as much oligarch status, money, power as possible while the country falls into isolation, despair, and ruin... Instead of giving in, doing the right thing and ending the corrupt, greedy mafia kleptocracy that rules Russia(and was* also ruling Ukraine) and steals from the Russian people to maintain its power.

It is irrational for the people of Russia to sit back and allow this to happen, but that is exactly what they are doing.

Russians, please study North Korea very well because your future is identical to that unless you take concerted action against the oligarchs and reform your country. Even Rogozin tried to prove how lovely and ideal a country North Korea is.


[In before a Russian tells me that 'no but Putin is fighting the oligarchs' when in reality he is the richest oligarch on the planet and surrounds himself with oligarchs. and this is exactly why Russia is heading towards North Korean status, because the people are falling for a massive web of lies that is being used against them.]


Thread: Russia is headed towards North Korean status rapidly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5649880


This is wrong on so many levels!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64709901


+1 it's bizarre to watch this happen in real time. Russia is headed down the drain of an oligarch nightmare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5815757

If this is a case of US projection...wow.
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Nope. America is broke, can't afford more troops anywhere. Half of US Navy is rotting in docks-can't afford to maintain them. All F22s are grounded, too expensive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64840386


Nothing is too expensive with a state of war (For any country). All it takes is a willing populace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64825635


And that's why Russia will not lose it's integrity in case of economical collapse.
Such collapse now can be clearly only the result of hostile actions by external forces. Which means war - of not the one declared or similiar to what we usually call so.
So far only USSR actually disbanded itself because of economical problems. And Putin is by no means similiar to Gorbachov to do the same.
 Quoting: Tamonten

You need to view the valuation curve of the Ruble. Then, look at Brent and WTI growth models. Russian economy is being hammered. At some point soon, Russian military costs will have to be restructured.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64840386


Actually Ruble should be two times cheaper than it is now - of you compare Ruble and USD inflation rates for the last decade.
Almost all the military costs are in Rulbes. Even if it is cheaper against USD, then what?
Some companies in Russia are already reporting major rise due to cheap Ruble - after only several months of it.
Cheap currency means better conditions for internal businesses. Which is exactly the thing Russia needs now.

Last Edited by Tamonten on 11/04/2014 04:15 PM
"When every one is dead the Great Game is finished. Not before." - Rudyard Kipling, "Kim" (1901)
"But we are still alive." - Thread: "The Great Game" by Mikhail Leontyev (2007-2008)

"Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." - Brandon Sanderson, "The Way of Kings"
"Russia is the great Christian country with rich Islamic history" - Vladimir Solovyov (Russian Jew)
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"Europe can wait while the Russian tsar fishes." - Alexander III The Peacemaker

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Nothing is too expensive with a state of war (For any country). All it takes is a willing populace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64825635


And that's why Russia will not lose it's integrity in case of economical collapse.
Such collapse now can be clearly only the result of hostile actions by external forces. Which means war - of not the one declared or similiar to what we usually call so.
So far only USSR actually disbanded itself because of economical problems. And Putin is by no means similiar to Gorbachov to do the same.
 Quoting: Tamonten

You need to view the valuation curve of the Ruble. Then, look at Brent and WTI growth models. Russian economy is being hammered. At some point soon, Russian military costs will have to be restructured.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64840386


Actually Ruble should be two times cheaper than it is now - of you compare Ruble and USD inflation rates for the last decade.
Almost all the military costs are in Rulbes. Even if it is cheaper against USD, then what?
Some companies in Russia are already reporting major rise due to cheap Ruble - after only several months of it.
Cheap currency means better conditions for internal businesses. Which is exactly the thing Russia needs now.
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Had I realised to whom I was replying, I never would have. Forget everything I wrote. Apologies.
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Russia is heading towards North Korea status




- the ruble is collapsing hard and in freefall nosedive and this will continue indefinitely,

- the Kremlin is growing more authoritarian rapidly by the day,

- rights and freedoms are being taken away at a record pace,

- the police state that already had the highest # of police per people of any nation is growing,

- a state of severe xenophobia is being cultivated by the Kremlin and it's controlled media,

- the Kremlin is growing militant rapidly by the day and cultivating a strong militancy among the people,

- and the Kremlin is isolating the country from external forces that threaten the rule of the oligarchs.




All of this will become extremely severe as the oligarchs try to save themselves and their corrupt bribery pyramid system that they thrive from.

Russia and Russians are heading towards North Korean status, governmentally, economically, and socially. This is all because of the desire of a little more than 100 elite Russian oligarchs who would rather try to maintain as much oligarch status, money, power as possible while the country falls into isolation, despair, and ruin... Instead of giving in, doing the right thing and ending the corrupt, greedy mafia kleptocracy that rules Russia(and was* also ruling Ukraine) and steals from the Russian people to maintain its power.

It is irrational for the people of Russia to sit back and allow this to happen, but that is exactly what they are doing.

Russians, please study North Korea very well because your future is identical to that unless you take concerted action against the oligarchs and reform your country. Even Rogozin tried to prove how lovely and ideal a country North Korea is.


[In before a Russian tells me that 'no but Putin is fighting the oligarchs' when in reality he is the richest oligarch on the planet and surrounds himself with oligarchs. and this is exactly why Russia is heading towards North Korean status, because the people are falling for a massive web of lies that is being used against them.]


Thread: Russia is headed towards North Korean status rapidly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5649880


This is wrong on so many levels!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64709901


+1 it's bizarre to watch this happen in real time. Russia is headed down the drain of an oligarch nightmare.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5815757

If this is a case of US projection...wow.
 Quoting: Dalek Uno 64830294


The fact that the ruble has lost 32% of its value since July is not anyone's 'projection.'

Everything else stated is fact as well.





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