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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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TANKS ARE MANNED BY RUSSIAN REGULARS - NATO

not sure why they are saying that as Kiev are talking about mercenaries. All the fog of war I guess, but NATO do have significant ground sources now, having had months to build up an intel network on the ground.
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Any info on western troops in Ukraine as in did they return after the recent exercise ?
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TANKS ARE MANNED BY RUSSIAN REGULARS - NATO

not sure why they are saying that as Kiev are talking about mercenaries. All the fog of war I guess, but NATO do have significant ground sources now, having had months to build up an intel network on the ground.
 Quoting: Janey

I presume these are the 400 tanks still within the RF that are moving near the RF/UKR border. It's logical that RF tanks within the RF are manned by RF soldiers, isn't it?!
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We'd soon find out if any of those USSR nukes that went missing are in the neighbourhood, imagine a Russian produced Uranium trace Nuke going off in the west
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don't even want to think about a nuke going off anywhere.
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Yeah I watched the Day after and Threads last night...

Not good
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Threads is fucking awesome :)
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and creepy.....
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We'd soon find out if any of those USSR nukes that went missing are in the neighbourhood, imagine a Russian produced Uranium trace Nuke going off in the west
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don't even want to think about a nuke going off anywhere.
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Yeah I watched the Day after and Threads last night...

Not good
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Threads is fucking awesome :)
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Poor Sheffield...

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It is on!! told you last night.
It is al about the money.
Sad but true.
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There are many assets deployed in the South East Med and adjacent countries from every possible side that has a respectable military.
They are not there without a serious reason.
Whatever escalates will be through there.
Ukraine became just a waiting game.
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What is Greek army strategy? Do you expect to go on Istanbul or your digging in? You think Russians will strike across Black sea?
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I think he's referencing the rumor that several years ago Yanks dropped 500 M1A2's in Greece in storage.
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TANKS ARE MANNED BY RUSSIAN REGULARS - NATO

not sure why they are saying that as Kiev are talking about mercenaries. All the fog of war I guess, but NATO do have significant ground sources now, having had months to build up an intel network on the ground.
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LOL, Janey is back. Expecting to see time machine going 6 months back! Brace yourself for another INVASION!
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We'd soon find out if any of those USSR nukes that went missing are in the neighbourhood, imagine a Russian produced Uranium trace Nuke going off in the west
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don't even want to think about a nuke going off anywhere.
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Yeah I watched the Day after and Threads last night...

Not good
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Threads is fucking awesome :)
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just asking.....what kind of "reliabilty" Janey has?
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She has a massive kind. She says it, it's true. Or at least it's what she's been told to be true.

She's one of the good guys here. But a woman type guy.
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It is on!! told you last night.
It is al about the money.
Sad but true.
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There are many assets deployed in the South East Med and adjacent countries from every possible side that has a respectable military.
They are not there without a serious reason.
Whatever escalates will be through there.
Ukraine became just a waiting game.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64670317


What is Greek army strategy? Do you expect to go on Istanbul or your digging in? You think Russians will strike across Black sea?
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I think he's referencing the rumor that several years ago Yanks dropped 500 M1A2's in Greece in storage.
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Greece and Turkey are both NATO but they're dead enemies. In case of all out war they are gonna go on each other. And Turkey will have it bad cause Kurds are gonna obstruct them from inside if Russia also joins, Turkey will bleed.
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TANKS ARE MANNED BY RUSSIAN REGULARS - NATO

not sure why they are saying that as Kiev are talking about mercenaries. All the fog of war I guess, but NATO do have significant ground sources now, having had months to build up an intel network on the ground.
 Quoting: Janey

I presume these are the 400 tanks still within the RF that are moving near the RF/UKR border. It's logical that RF tanks within the RF are manned by RF soldiers, isn't it?!
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no, no this is in reference to the units that have crossed. Kiev are talking mercenaries with Russian kit, NATO are saying regular troops.
delivering the news
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just asking.....what kind of "reliabilty" Janey has?
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She has a massive kind. She says it, it's true. Or at least it's what she's been told to be true.

She's one of the good guys here. But a woman type guy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64226290


Well, considering shes mainly NATO source, another fake MSM Invasion hysteria is sure to be painful for the ears.
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She works for Sky news you can see by the headlines they make and her posts.
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It is on!! told you last night.
It is al about the money.
Sad but true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64915210


There are many assets deployed in the South East Med and adjacent countries from every possible side that has a respectable military.
They are not there without a serious reason.
Whatever escalates will be through there.
Ukraine became just a waiting game.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64670317


What is Greek army strategy? Do you expect to go on Istanbul or your digging in? You think Russians will strike across Black sea?
 Quoting: Matjaz

I think he's referencing the rumor that several years ago Yanks dropped 500 M1A2's in Greece in storage.
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No, I am referencing that every respectable NAVY there is has send ships to northeastern Med either under the pretext of drills or as observers.
Greek army strategy is to follow the top dog entering Instambul in case Turkey breaks appart.
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The ground will be nice and firm.
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@Conflict_Report: The convoy seems to be from #Yaroslavl Oblast.
Insignia, flags, markings already removed. Registration plates still on.
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@Conflict_Report: The convoy seems to be from #Yaroslavl Oblast.
Insignia, flags, markings already removed. Registration plates still on.
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Bullshit. They say that because they see 76 on the plates - it's the code of the Yaroslavl Oblast, but this only applies to civil (white) plates. On the black (military) plates those numbers stand for different things. 76 stands for Urals Military district.
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Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 · 13 min.
SIT REP NAF have repulsed a Ukie offensive towards #Mykolaivka and #StanitsaLuganskaya! North of #Lugansk

Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 · 8 min.
SIT REP During the fightings near #Schastye Ukies tried to cross the Seversky Donets river. NAF have pushed 'em to retreat!

Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 · 2 min.
SIT REP Ongoing fightings around the Block Post 29 near #Donetskyi! North-West of #Lugansk!
#Volnovakha under N.G. GRAD Shellings!
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Ukrainian Army is being shelled by the National Guard?!
Did I read that correctly, or is the report unreliable?
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TANKS ARE MANNED BY RUSSIAN REGULARS - NATO

not sure why they are saying that as Kiev are talking about mercenaries. All the fog of war I guess, but NATO do have significant ground sources now, having had months to build up an intel network on the ground.
 Quoting: Janey

I presume these are the 400 tanks still within the RF that are moving near the RF/UKR border. It's logical that RF tanks within the RF are manned by RF soldiers, isn't it?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43815472


no, no this is in reference to the units that have crossed. Kiev are talking mercenaries with Russian kit, NATO are saying regular troops.
 Quoting: Janey

A question Janey.
How did they see the Russian tank column?
There should atleast be pictures by NATO/Ukrainian Government, right? :S

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"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die."
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"In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
-Ernest Hemingway

"China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."
-Napoleon Bonaparte

"Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch."
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World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020.
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Not really.

You need to distinguish between what Janey reports as opposed to what Janey believes.

Janey reports what she is being told (I think). If what she is being told is bs or lies that's not her lying. It's the people telling her lying, in this case NATO.

Do you see the distinction?
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I know, saw this same situ 6 months ago. Not a dejavu. Real MSM attack on all senses expecting major invasion... After it did not came to fruit it is more than obvious they've lost much of the credibility. Janey also...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64226290


Not really.

You need to distinguish between what Janey reports as opposed to what Janey believes.

Janey reports what she is being told (I think). If what she is being told is bs or lies that's not her lying. It's the people telling her lying, in this case NATO.

Do you see the distinction?
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The Putinbots have been desperately trying to convince the thread that Russia would win a war with the United States. However, Putin's own Deputy Prime Minister speaks at a conference just last year, ADMITTING that Russia is no match for the USA. Now, if this is not true, why does Putin allow his DPM to remain in his position? Unless Rogozin is telling the truth. Putinbots telling you that Putin's staff are idiots and completely removed from reality. How about that irony! Bwhahahahaha

Try and shill your way out of this PutlerBots


United States win the war with Russia in 6 hours

Date: 29-06-2013 | 09:29
Dmitry Rogozin: "The United States can destroy a few hours up to 90% of our nuclear capability"

Extremely sad prospects in the event of war with the United States described the Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, speaking on Friday at the scientific-practical conference "Be strong: a guarantee of Russia's national security." In addition, he identified five types of threats to Russia and stated "gap on a number of critical core technologies from leading countries of the West in some areas up to tens of years."

"For more than ten years in the United States worked out the concept of Prompt Global Strike. It provides a striking non-nuclear weapons at any point of the planet in one hour, "- said Rogozin. "According to the results of the war game, held at the Pentagon late last year by 3.5-4 thousand units of U.S. precision weapons can destroy 6 hours basic infrastructural facilities of the enemy and prevent him to resist," - he added.

According to him, if such a blow will be dealt to Russia, the main objectives will be of strategic nuclear deterrence forces. "In essence, the U.S. expert estimates, as a result of such an attack can be destroyed from 80 to 90 percent of our nuclear potential," - said Deputy Prime Minister.

And despite the fact that Russia, according to its military doctrine, ready to use nuclear weapons in repelling aggression with conventional weapons, this is not enough. Resist such a threat, according to Rogozin, can only be created "autonomous weapons" that are independent of modern telecommunication technologies.

However, their creation can obviously cause serious problems. "Today, the backlog for a number of critical core technologies from leading Western countries is in some areas up to tens of years", - said Deputy Prime Minister.

According to him soon catch up and overtake the others, especially high-tech Western powers Russia is unlikely to work in all directions. "The scientific potential of our country was virtually destroyed during the years of political stagnation," - he said.

According to Rogozin, the backlog in the field of defense technologies can be eliminated due to the concentration of scientific potential of the military, scientists and technologists. A function of coordinating the work should be entrusted to the Military Industrial Commission, which he himself had chaired.

"Underestimate the threat to Russia's security is not just silly, but criminally, competition will take on a more aggressive form. Russia does not intend to participate in the race of military technology as an outside observer, "- said Rogozin.://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=au​to&tl=en&u= [link to minval.az]
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My God, how many more times must we see this?
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Until you realize that USA will defeat Russia on paper!!!
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Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 · 13 min.
SIT REP NAF have repulsed a Ukie offensive towards #Mykolaivka and #StanitsaLuganskaya! North of #Lugansk

Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 · 8 min.
SIT REP During the fightings near #Schastye Ukies tried to cross the Seversky Donets river. NAF have pushed 'em to retreat!

Enrico Ivanov ‏@VonHenrick1 · 2 min.
SIT REP Ongoing fightings around the Block Post 29 near #Donetskyi! North-West of #Lugansk!
#Volnovakha under N.G. GRAD Shellings!
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!
Ukrainian Army is being shelled by the National Guard?!
Did I read that correctly, or is the report unreliable?
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


Saw that yesterday also it seemed strange to me when did I miss Volnovakha coming under NAF control.
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I presume these are the 400 tanks still within the RF that are moving near the RF/UKR border. It's logical that RF tanks within the RF are manned by RF soldiers, isn't it?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43815472


no, no this is in reference to the units that have crossed. Kiev are talking mercenaries with Russian kit, NATO are saying regular troops.
 Quoting: Janey

A question Janey.
How did they see the Russian tank column?
There should atleast be pictures by NATO/Ukrainian Government, right? :S
 Quoting: Falter


Pictures? What pictures? Their word is axiom and not to be questioned!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64915404

That's what I mean. We can't believe the words of Kiev.
If they have proof of a 'Russian invasion' there should be clear pictures of it.
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Its just Putin practicing his version of Russian Orthodox Christianity.
He plans on promoting this missionary work in the USA as well.
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just asking.....what kind of "reliabilty" Janey has?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64711868


She has a massive kind. She says it, it's true. Or at least it's what she's been told to be true.

She's one of the good guys here. But a woman type guy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64226290


Well, considering shes mainly NATO source, another fake MSM Invasion hysteria is sure to be painful for the ears.
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C'mon Luis, you gotta ban this interloper.
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don't even want to think about a nuke going off anywhere.
 Quoting: GodzillaReturns


Yeah I watched the Day after and Threads last night...

Not good
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Threads is fucking awesome :)
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crazyjak
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what thread is everyone talking about?
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 24 min.
Surprise, Surprise
Russian Stock Market turns green
Gazprom +0,7%
Lukoil +1,66%
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USDRUB falls below 47
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Fluctuations.

One really must read heavily into short term movements.
Neither up nor down.
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I know, saw this same situ 6 months ago. Not a dejavu. Real MSM attack on all senses expecting major invasion... After it did not came to fruit it is more than obvious they've lost much of the credibility. Janey also...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64226290


Not really.

You need to distinguish between what Janey reports as opposed to what Janey believes.

Janey reports what she is being told (I think). If what she is being told is bs or lies that's not her lying. It's the people telling her lying, in this case NATO.

Do you see the distinction?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64226290

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64915404


THE QUESTION: HOW RELIABLE ARE JANEY'S SOURCES?


Question is can we stop pretending that we know so much about so little and stay on topic
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25 years after the Berlin Wall is the remains of the GDR's old communist party about to take power in one of Germany's federal states.
[link to bloggar.aftonbladet.se]
"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die."
-Jean Paul Sartre

"In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
-Ernest Hemingway

"China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."
-Napoleon Bonaparte

"Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch."
-Vladimir Putin

World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020.
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Russia has lied for years and years with almost no honest word from them
Ukraine has lied to nobody.

So of course, believe Russia.
Ukraine broke no treaties, Russia (and America did)
Ukraine invaded nobody, Russia did.
Ukraine has received no help from anyone. America has abandoned them, only going as far as sending money to Russia which is no help at all after Russia has stolen most of Ukraines Navy and the Crimea and continues to invade.
How do you in the west make sense of preventing those that prefer your company from escaping exactly those who you would not want to be forced to deal with yourselves?
How do you accuse others like you as automatically being evil without impeaching your own lifestyle and morality?
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Its just Putin practicing his version of Russian Orthodox Christianity.
He plans on promoting this missionary work in the USA as well.
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I hope Putin sends the Ortho clergy to America strapped to ICBMs, b/c that is the only way they will understand.





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