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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67390454 Portugal 01/26/2015 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Taskforce88 i'm very very disapointed with you! You are giving me red karma on and on for be against troika. I allwais giving you green karma. I thought you were my friend. This is very sad. You are banned forever! Quoting: Luisport you ban people because of butthurt? cmon, man! It's not butthurt, it's hearthurt... i always support him, always give him green karma, always apreciate his posts... why people are this way? Anyone who is for trika should get banned from the whole web. To be for them is not an opinion but a crime. ;-) All this thing is resolved. We talked, he say he was sorry and i forgive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67391679 Croatia 01/26/2015 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FBI claims Russian state-owned media being used as cover for spying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14724030 BYE RT. No more US no more EU license. like npr & cnn cover for cia spying? For certain... CONFESSION OF A GERMAN STATE TV JOURNALIST: "WE ARE ALL WORKING FOR THE CIA" - that was an EPIC moment in German TV history in english: |
RTS REDUX User ID: 63880041 United States 01/26/2015 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 funny how Azov is never at the front, always hiding somewhere behind civis in big cities like Mariupol...haven't seen any of them captured yet, although I doubt NAF will keep them as POW anyway they get paid to intimidate ethnic Russsians in other parts of the country [..] Ukraine Where Murder is the base of your financial planning Why would people volunteer to do this? One Ukrainian volunteer that was captured twice answered this question to a large degree. They asked him why he came back? The volunteer (not a conscript) said the first time he was in Donbas he made enough money to purchase a car. He came back because he wanted to make money and buy a house. This murder for hire mentality is prevalent inside the cleansing battalions. These battalions are committing most of the atrocities and do so with definite rewards in mind. Look at the Rada in Kiev today. The more land they clear of people, the more property they are given. To do so the people that live in those cities, towns, and homes need to go one way or the other. If you can’t scare them, kill them. According to an article in livejournal Since June 2014 members of ATU and family members of deceased servicemen in the territorial bodies Goszemagentstva ( Dept of Land Resources)was filed 15,582 applications for land . These represent land grants given by the Ukrainian government for how effective they have been getting rid of separatists. The cleansing battalions don’t fight in the war. They murder and rob. They torture and rape. They fill tractor trailer loads with the possessions robbed from the murdered and displaced they want to keep or sell. They like their work. [link to www.4thmedia.org] |
Blueyez: User ID: 62917470 Estonia 01/26/2015 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FBI claims Russian state-owned media being used as cover for spying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14724030 BYE RT. No more US no more EU license. like npr & cnn cover for cia spying? For certain... CONFESSION OF A GERMAN STATE TV JOURNALIST: "WE ARE ALL WORKING FOR THE CIA" - that was an EPIC moment in German TV history in english: And the Kremlin controls the Russian media, lets not forget. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67393713 Bulgaria 01/26/2015 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FBI claims Russian state-owned media being used as cover for spying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14724030 BYE RT. No more US no more EU license. like npr & cnn cover for cia spying? For certain... CONFESSION OF A GERMAN STATE TV JOURNALIST: "WE ARE ALL WORKING FOR THE CIA" - that was an EPIC moment in German TV history in english: And the Kremlin controls the Russian media, lets not forget. Oh, you don't say. Government controls government media? Wow! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67390454 Portugal 01/26/2015 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 MineForNothing @minefornothing · 3 min Há 3 minutos UKIP on course for 16 seats in May's General Election [link to www.mirror.co.uk] … |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67198463 United States 01/26/2015 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 using washington standards for determining victim status, it's plain as day that the separatists in eastern ukraine are the most entitled to play the victim card... not the kiev junta. kiev junta sitting in their posh settings gnawing on the bones of their dying country. drunk on the powers given to them by obama. living in luxury until they can stike their tents and retreat to their posh salons in london, berlin and switzerland. their bellies bloated from their bloody feasts |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67378627 Norway 01/26/2015 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 funny how Azov is never at the front, always hiding somewhere behind civis in big cities like Mariupol...haven't seen any of them captured yet, although I doubt NAF will keep them as POW anyway they get paid to intimidate ethnic Russsians in other parts of the country [..] Ukraine Where Murder is the base of your financial planning Why would people volunteer to do this? One Ukrainian volunteer that was captured twice answered this question to a large degree. They asked him why he came back? The volunteer (not a conscript) said the first time he was in Donbas he made enough money to purchase a car. He came back because he wanted to make money and buy a house. This murder for hire mentality is prevalent inside the cleansing battalions. These battalions are committing most of the atrocities and do so with definite rewards in mind. Look at the Rada in Kiev today. The more land they clear of people, the more property they are given. To do so the people that live in those cities, towns, and homes need to go one way or the other. If you can’t scare them, kill them. According to an article in livejournal Since June 2014 members of ATU and family members of deceased servicemen in the territorial bodies Goszemagentstva ( Dept of Land Resources)was filed 15,582 applications for land . These represent land grants given by the Ukrainian government for how effective they have been getting rid of separatists. The cleansing battalions don’t fight in the war. They murder and rob. They torture and rape. They fill tractor trailer loads with the possessions robbed from the murdered and displaced they want to keep or sell. They like their work. [link to www.4thmedia.org] Informative article, and you nailed an important part of it as intro. Take Care Kent |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67390454 Portugal 01/26/2015 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RUSSIA'S PUTIN SPEAKS TO HOLLANDE, MERKEL BY PHONE, SAYS NEW VIOLENCE IN EAST UKRAINE CAUSED BY KIEV'S "VIOLENT SUPPRESSION" OF REGION |
Blueyez: User ID: 62917470 Estonia 01/26/2015 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 For certain... CONFESSION OF A GERMAN STATE TV JOURNALIST: "WE ARE ALL WORKING FOR THE CIA" - that was an EPIC moment in German TV history in english: And the Kremlin controls the Russian media, lets not forget. Oh, you don't say. Government controls government media? Wow! Well it seems as tho most people here believe that RT is the ultimate truth. |
PorkyWaltzman User ID: 57393438 Luxembourg 01/26/2015 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 funny how Azov is never at the front, always hiding somewhere behind civis in big cities like Mariupol...haven't seen any of them captured yet, although I doubt NAF will keep them as POW anyway they get paid to intimidate ethnic Russsians in other parts of the country [..] Ukraine Where Murder is the base of your financial planning Why would people volunteer to do this? One Ukrainian volunteer that was captured twice answered this question to a large degree. They asked him why he came back? The volunteer (not a conscript) said the first time he was in Donbas he made enough money to purchase a car. He came back because he wanted to make money and buy a house. This murder for hire mentality is prevalent inside the cleansing battalions. These battalions are committing most of the atrocities and do so with definite rewards in mind. Look at the Rada in Kiev today. The more land they clear of people, the more property they are given. To do so the people that live in those cities, towns, and homes need to go one way or the other. If you can’t scare them, kill them. According to an article in livejournal Since June 2014 members of ATU and family members of deceased servicemen in the territorial bodies Goszemagentstva ( Dept of Land Resources)was filed 15,582 applications for land . These represent land grants given by the Ukrainian government for how effective they have been getting rid of separatists. The cleansing battalions don’t fight in the war. They murder and rob. They torture and rape. They fill tractor trailer loads with the possessions robbed from the murdered and displaced they want to keep or sell. They like their work. [link to www.4thmedia.org] yep exactly that also explains why Azov didn't have any heavy weapons yet like tanks etc. It wasn't their job and mission obviously to be at the front. Rather being kept in the back to do the dirty work against whomever the clowns in Kiev choose. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67331581 United Kingdom 01/26/2015 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Capt Ozirny, whose call sign is Yatagan (a Turkish sabre), is convinced his opponent is Russia. “That country is fighting with mine,” he said. “We can tell by the artillery fire; it’s trained Russian specialists firing at us, people who understand the science of it, not some amateur bandits.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67364669 Moscow has also sent tanks into the conflict, he alleged. “We’ve seen one T-90, which only Russia has, and heard the engines of many T-72s, which couldn’t be trophies taken from us because we have very few in service.” In the region where there is a large portion of ukrainian citizens it wouldn't be unheard of of at least a fair few experienced soldiers from both modern and coldwar days As for the T90 the FSA proclaimed to have taken one out in Syria, also there is an export version of the T90 called T90S, India has these, plus they are expected to be in possesion of another 1000 by 2020 Algeria has a contract in the works and so does Saudi Arabia, which would be fun to see as both Abrams and T90S's would be in service alongside each other... If it were newer models of T90's showing up then you could say yeah thats RF, without a doubt both west and RF are supplying and training but Overt actions nah not yet At least a fair few experienced soldiers in Ukraine would be able to discern T90s. I agree with this. By what means and from where, did the NAF acquire these T90s? Is it probable they acquired them from the Saudis, Algerians, Indinas? Probable? No. Possible? A very weak maybe. NAF do not have air and sealift capabilities. The NAF share a border with the originator and prolific producer of the T90, Russia. Isn't is probable the NAF T90 tanks came from Russia? I agree with ya buddy, I just don't think there is a T90 a single one for that matter in Ukraine, not without any actual evidence... It is possible that there is one, but I fail to see how, if Bandits in the ME can video stuff as it happens, whats stopping Reccy units from acquiring photo's or Videos or this and RF troops crossing the Border. |
Böze_Tante User ID: 67391125 Germany 01/26/2015 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 President Ilves: The European Union must confirm we are united and unwavering in our efforts to restrain the aggressor - See more at: [link to www.president.ee] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67388304 I can't believe that someone is buying this bs. Ukr army killed thousands of civilians and nobody said shit. First time separatists are (unproven) involved in something like this and the world starts yelling. What a fucking stupid world do I live in ffs!!! I hope that all European governments will soon get one in the face, as in Greece. Not that I think it would help much, but to think looking at their stupid faces, ok - for the lulz. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67394673 Germany 01/26/2015 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The way these soldiers are treated and lied to by their superiors, i'm really not surprised. As for being traitors, that's entirely a point of view. Nobody can look in the heads of these guys and say what really made them go for this decision, leaving their former lives behind. Soldiers usually don't turn their backs to their own army just for the hell of it. Punitive Forces of Kiev Surrenders Without a Fight There is an interesting situation is created in "Debaltsev trap". Punitive Army surrenders without a fight, and then assists in the elimination of the former allies. The explanation of this is in the violent ways of recruiting in Ukrainian army. One of the best examples has happened in the Krasnyi Pahar. Soldiers of Ukrainian forces made a decision to go into captivity, and then they turned against the punitive battalions. To help former Ukrainian forces, People's Self-Defense fighters arrived from neighboring Troitskiy, and then together they were able to clear the occupied territory from punishers.<50% [link to www.liveleak.com] Rusnya amuse themselves by fairy-tales |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 59311352 Netherlands 01/26/2015 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This shelling is confirmed by OSCE and Mariupol habitants. How about the shelling of Gorlovka & Donetsk for months? Lot of people seem to deny it happened in the first place because it doesn't fit their perspective either for personal or geopolitical reasons. Turning a blind eye. The NAF cause casualties here, the Ukies cause them in a lot of other places besides Mariupol. The wide spread silence about these massacres is deafening. Want to be fair and unbiased? Condemn and punish both of them where it's due. |
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Böze_Tante User ID: 67391125 Germany 01/26/2015 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 23 sek. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! UKRAINE, DONETSK, LUHANSK REPRESENTATIVES TO MEET IN COMING DAYS - RIA Yeah, when DNR and LNR reach Kiev. Not before. [link to ria.ru] I would leave Kiev out and went straight to Lvov. Country is to stretched to lose lives on and main score is on Lvov. They shouldn't stop before they reach the Atlantic. The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is). No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it: Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms. It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people. That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”. |
hIndsIght2020 User ID: 61828182 United States 01/26/2015 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 zerohedge @zerohedge Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67393713 RUSSIA'S PUTIN SPEAKS TO HOLLANDE, MERKEL BY PHONE, SAYS NEW VIOLENCE IN EAST UKRAINE CAUSED BY KIEV'S "VIOLENT SUPPRESSION" OF REGION I like Putin. Nothing was going on there before the separatists started rebelling. Because they weren't separatists. They were Russians. |
Blueyez: User ID: 62917470 Estonia 01/26/2015 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 23 sek. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! UKRAINE, DONETSK, LUHANSK REPRESENTATIVES TO MEET IN COMING DAYS - RIA Yeah, when DNR and LNR reach Kiev. Not before. [link to ria.ru] I would leave Kiev out and went straight to Lvov. Country is too stretched to lose lives on and main score is on Lvov. What excuse does the DNR have to go for Kiev? Isn't their objective "the liberation of Novorossiya"? Kiev isn't in that territory. |
firinne User ID: 34261070 Ireland 01/26/2015 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 In the morning of January 24 the Eastern outskirts of Mariupol were attacked near the UAF checkpoint, writes Internet news resource Donetsk Republic News. But junta fighters were not injured, because according to local residents, they left the fortification a few hours before the strike. Google this headline for link....Ukrainian troops left Mariupol checkpoint before strike on civilian area |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55743029 United States 01/26/2015 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 FBI claims Russian state-owned media being used as cover for spying Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14724030 BYE RT. No more US no more EU license. like npr & cnn cover for cia spying? For certain... CONFESSION OF A GERMAN STATE TV JOURNALIST: "WE ARE ALL WORKING FOR THE CIA" - that was an EPIC moment in German TV history in english: semites totally control all western nations especially america and of course still germany germany should align itself with russia if it wants to liberate itself from the semites germany aligned with russia and china would be formiddable .. might even be "game over" |
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OTTO VON BISMARCK User ID: 67380883 Germany 01/26/2015 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This shelling is confirmed by OSCE and Mariupol habitants. 1. those particular observers from the the "european" OSCE were actually US americans, and they did not do the investigations in accordance to the agreed OSCE methods, But WHY Washington why??? The answer is pretty simple, isn't it. 2. Many eye witnesses in Mariupol have reported that just an 1 prior to the GRAD rocket attack the Ukrainan Army took of and left their positions in the direct vicinity. Obviously these people of Mariupol aren't fooled by this despicable cowardly terrorist attack committed by those murderous thugs in Kiev. The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia. -Otto von Bismarck |
OTTO VON BISMARCK User ID: 67380883 Germany 01/26/2015 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This shelling is confirmed by OSCE and Mariupol habitants. 1. those particular observers from the the "european" OSCE were actually US americans, and they did not do the investigations in accordance to the agreed OSCE methods, But WHY Washington why??? The answer is pretty simple, isn't it. 2. Many eye witnesses in Mariupol have reported that just an 1 prior to the GRAD rocket attack the Ukrainan Army took of and left their positions in the direct vicinity. Obviously these people of Mariupol aren't fooled by this despicable cowardly terrorist attack committed by those murderous thugs in Kiev. 2. Many eye witnesses in Mariupol have reported that just an 1 [hour] prior to the GRAD rocket attack the Ukrainan Army took of and left their positions in the direct vicinity. The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia. -Otto von Bismarck |
Falter User ID: 58276109 Sweden 01/26/2015 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Shaun Walker ‏@shaunwalker7 3 minför 3 minuter sedan Endless loud booms of mainly outgoing artillery from central Donetsk are both tedious and terrifying. Almost continuous since morning. "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |