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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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visionaryS

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[link to nextbigfuture.com]
 Quoting: Strike


Yes, this is what I wrote above. Mainly the article about Armata shows fake picture and also claim from Euromaidan is absolutely ridiculous because firsta Armata will be deployed during this year. Those tanks was not shown even on the last Russian Army Expo...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Some more concept images. [link to www.military.com]
 Quoting: Strike

TBH, the Armata MBT looks like it'll set the bar for the modern MBT. The U.S. will have to catch up to it instead of the other way around.
 Quoting: Strike

Still there is weapon and tactic to beat and destroy any tank and vehicle.
I have a dream.
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02/01/2015 03:38 PM
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According EuromaidanPR there are Russain tanks "Armata" in Donbass:

[link to www.militaryphotos.net]

Delusion over the top...

epiclol
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


oh btw translation is: We had complicated situation today, but still we practically cleaned up Debaltsevo till the end of the day. For a first time I saw Russian tank "Armata" at combat and I was not impressed. We destroyed it using RPG and captured a crew, all serviceman from Rostov. We also destroyed Russian column today, about 17 units. Couldn't make a photo because phone has been discharged. Glory to Ukraine!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67581681


That same sentense I've read here before. Was it yesterday or when???

BTW when this here is an Armata tank

[link to www.wantchinatimes.com]

then I'd say those in the vid are surely not.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


Well mainly that one on the photo is not Armata but "Object 640 - Chornyy Orol" (Black Eagle), modification of T-80 what never was deployed to service.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.moddb.com]

Armata is still secret military project and there are known only concepts, it was presented last year only to politics. First deployment of this tanks is planned on this year.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to obengplus.com]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Ok, I never was much interested in weapons (except ancient ones), so info like yours is helpful.

What you tell here leads to the conclusion: that one was out of his mind.

Wunderwaffen, everywhere Wunderwaffen. Next Flugscheiben coming and then Hitler rides in from Antarctica.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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S 500 means bye bye MAD, the west can print as much money as it wants its game over time soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50406870


Well, not really. Too many S-500 are needed to defend all Russian territory. But it'll surely guarantee the defence of several key points.
I.e. "potential adversaries" could still very well cause a demage that would be deemed unacceptable, but capital and other major institutions would be far more protected.
 Quoting: Tamonten

All rocket systems are outdated.
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Yes, this is what I wrote above. Mainly the article about Armata shows fake picture and also claim from Euromaidan is absolutely ridiculous because firsta Armata will be deployed during this year. Those tanks was not shown even on the last Russian Army Expo...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Some more concept images. [link to www.military.com]
 Quoting: Strike

TBH, the Armata MBT looks like it'll set the bar for the modern MBT. The U.S. will have to catch up to it instead of the other way around.
 Quoting: Strike


the fact remains that us armor remains untested in an environment where saudi oil fields aren't literally plugged directly into their ass.

against a foe that can easily destroy it's fuel line from a distance, it has not been tested.

korea wasn't an armor war and neither was vietnam ditto afghanistan... just iraq
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67461690


It is completely ludicrous idea that Russia can be successfully attacked. They are The Strongest defensive Army in the world.
NATO is Biggest offensive and all around Army in the world but still without chance to do anything against Russia as long as Russia is on defensive.
And as it did not work to bring them directly into an conflict in Ukraine and they have now also this NewRussian army that is becoming experienced and battle-hardened.
One can easily get conclusion that they are strategically and militarily winning, winning big time and are only getting stronger.
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oh btw translation is: We had complicated situation today, but still we practically cleaned up Debaltsevo till the end of the day. For a first time I saw Russian tank "Armata" at combat and I was not impressed. We destroyed it using RPG and captured a crew, all serviceman from Rostov. We also destroyed Russian column today, about 17 units. Couldn't make a photo because phone has been discharged. Glory to Ukraine!
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That same sentense I've read here before. Was it yesterday or when???

BTW when this here is an Armata tank

[link to www.wantchinatimes.com]

then I'd say those in the vid are surely not.
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Well mainly that one on the photo is not Armata but "Object 640 - Chornyy Orol" (Black Eagle), modification of T-80 what never was deployed to service.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.moddb.com]

Armata is still secret military project and there are known only concepts, it was presented last year only to politics. First deployment of this tanks is planned on this year.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to obengplus.com]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Ok, I never was much interested in weapons (except ancient ones), so info like yours is helpful.

What you tell here leads to the conclusion: that one was out of his mind.

Wunderwaffen, everywhere Wunderwaffen. Next Flugscheiben coming and then Hitler rides in from Antarctica.
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...on T-Rex.

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Quoting Dostoyevsky:
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Obama openly admits 'brokering power transition' in Ukraine

This is no conspiracy theory. On December 13, 2013, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria "F*ck the EU" Nuland, following her third trip to Ukraine in five weeks, told the National Press Club: "Since Ukraine's independence in 1991 the United States has…invested over $5 billion to assist Ukraine in needs and other goals."
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NOOO WAAAAY sheeplebah
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Well, look.
[link to rt.com]

[link to www.fbo.gov (secure)]
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Rats abandoned the ship! Hopefully they will also abandon Ukrainian Titanic before many more innocent people die.

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I posted this about a page back..

In a December public opinion survey conducted by Kiev’s ‘Social Monitoring’ group, an overwhelming majority of respondents (73 percent) wanted an end to the ATO. Only 19 percent supported its continuation, and 8 percent were undecided. This reflects a major shift from the beginning of the ATO when 50.4 percent fully or mostly supported it ( [link to vesti-ukr.com] [link to www.russiaotherpointsofview.com]

and like I said...

there wouldn't even be a war if it wasn't for U.S. and NATO meddling.

you=FAIL
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


There will be an end to the ATO once the terrorists stop their warfare, and not a moment before that, Ukraine will reclaim 100% of its territorial integrity.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


Hate to be the one to break it to ya, and I know it will be a shock, but the question isn't whether Ukraine will regain Crimea or Donbass anymore, but how much of what's left will stay under the Kiev Junta's control.
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ukrains will get it's old name back - RUSSIA!

ther might have a tiny ukraine oblast around lvov
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:Putin Right:
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Some more concept images. [link to www.military.com]
 Quoting: Strike

TBH, the Armata MBT looks like it'll set the bar for the modern MBT. The U.S. will have to catch up to it instead of the other way around.
 Quoting: Strike


the fact remains that us armor remains untested in an environment where saudi oil fields aren't literally plugged directly into their ass.

against a foe that can easily destroy it's fuel line from a distance, it has not been tested.

korea wasn't an armor war and neither was vietnam ditto afghanistan... just iraq
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67461690


It is completely ludicrous idea that Russia can be successfully attacked. They are The Strongest defensive Army in the world.
NATO is Biggest offensive and all around Army in the world but still without chance to do anything against Russia as long as Russia is on defensive.
And as it did not work to bring them directly into an conflict in Ukraine and they have now also this NewRussian army that is becoming experienced and battle-hardened.
One can easily get conclusion that they are strategically and militarily winning, winning big time and are only getting stronger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46705080


Did I ever tell you about when I was a little girl and had a chance encounter with two American GIs?
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"This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961
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"I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..."
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"Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Yes, this is what I wrote above. Mainly the article about Armata shows fake picture and also claim from Euromaidan is absolutely ridiculous because firsta Armata will be deployed during this year. Those tanks was not shown even on the last Russian Army Expo...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Some more concept images. [link to www.military.com]
 Quoting: Strike

TBH, the Armata MBT looks like it'll set the bar for the modern MBT. The U.S. will have to catch up to it instead of the other way around.
 Quoting: Strike

Still there is weapon and tactic to beat and destroy any tank and vehicle.
 Quoting: visionaryS


Indeed, with precision guided missiles.
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How did Russian air power do in the Georgian and Chechen wars?
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new Russian tank.
[link to nationalinterest.org]
 Quoting: visionaryS


Here it is
[link to diepresse.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67581376


Thank you.

hf
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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Some more concept images. [link to www.military.com]
 Quoting: Strike

TBH, the Armata MBT looks like it'll set the bar for the modern MBT. The U.S. will have to catch up to it instead of the other way around.
 Quoting: Strike

Still there is weapon and tactic to beat and destroy any tank and vehicle.
 Quoting: visionaryS


Indeed, with precision guided missiles.
 Quoting: Strike


Nope, land mines, korney, javelin and many many others that are not missiles.
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S 500 means bye bye MAD, the west can print as much money as it wants its game over time soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50406870


Well, not really. Too many S-500 are needed to defend all Russian territory. But it'll surely guarantee the defence of several key points.
I.e. "potential adversaries" could still very well cause a demage that would be deemed unacceptable, but capital and other major institutions would be far more protected.
 Quoting: Tamonten


Read Nyquist and Perimeter Dead Hand. Russia is terribly ready for the big doom, while USA is not - at least what is published officially. I'd like to see the US bunkers readied too, FEMA camps prepared, and the rest in expectation of the inevitable. US population is not ready psychologically to evacuate soon enough.

I can see that happens in Russia alone announced on the media. 5000 new bunkers in Moscow in addition to the cold war facilities. Russia readies the bunkers, updates the missiles, and has even s500 that could be nuclear loaded too.

May be it is a time to bring in the flying saucers/triangles on the scene too. No matter if the people will applaud or scream. It is a matter of survival.
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There will be an end to the ATO once the terrorists stop their warfare, and not a moment before that, Ukraine will reclaim 100% of its territorial integrity.
 Quoting: Blueyez:


Hate to be the one to break it to ya, and I know it will be a shock, but the question isn't whether Ukraine will regain Crimea or Donbass anymore, but how much of what's left will stay under the Kiev Junta's control.
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ukrains will get it's old name back - RUSSIA!

ther might have a tiny ukraine oblast around lvov
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:Putin Right:
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How did Russian air power do in the Georgian and Chechen wars?
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chechen wars: The general Russian aircraft losses consisted of about 45 helicopters (23 Mi-8, 16 Mi-24, three Mi-26 and three others) and 11 fixed-wing aircraft (four Su-24 fighter-bombers and seven Su-25 ground-attack aircraft).
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How did Russian air power do in the Georgian and Chechen wars?
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georgian war:

-Russia confirmed the loss of three Su-25 strike aircraft, one Tu-22M3 long-range bomber

or another source says:

-Moscow Defence Brief provided a higher estimate, saying that Russian Air Force overall losses during the war amounted to one Tu-22M3 long-range bomber, one Su-24M Fencer fighter-bomber, one Su-24MR Fencer E reconnaissance plane and four Su-25 attack planes.

or 1 more source:

Anton Lavrov listed one Su-25SM, two Su-25BM, two Su-24M and one Tu-22M3 lost
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Nobel peace prize 'winner' has blood on his hands?!

Obama openly admits 'brokering power transition' in Ukraine

This is no conspiracy theory. On December 13, 2013, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria "F*ck the EU" Nuland, following her third trip to Ukraine in five weeks, told the National Press Club: "Since Ukraine's independence in 1991 the United States has…invested over $5 billion to assist Ukraine in needs and other goals."
[link to rt.com]

NOOO WAAAAY sheeplebah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67579308


Well, look.
[link to rt.com]

[link to www.fbo.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67581376


They are so "charity" as long as it fits their agenda.
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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also:

At least 100 ex-Georgian military servicemen fight alongside Ukrainian troops

[link to www.focus-fen.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67581681


So what if Gerogia is armed to the teeth. They were equipped with NATO toys back in 2008 and they are equipped by NATO today. They certainly dont have the money to buy it. So NATO can spend money, pump weapons in Georgia and RF is just gonna trash it again. Georgia is just too small to open a front against Russia. Couple of dozens of Iskanders and country turns into ash, its that small and not enough soldiers to make a stand.
 Quoting: Matjaz


georgia was not equiped by NATO back in 2008 trained yes.

for example for its airdefences Georgia has bought Buk and Tor missles from Ukraine. and many other "outdated" russian stuff from Ukraine.
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TBH, the Armata MBT looks like it'll set the bar for the modern MBT. The U.S. will have to catch up to it instead of the other way around.
 Quoting: Strike

Still there is weapon and tactic to beat and destroy any tank and vehicle.
 Quoting: visionaryS


Indeed, with precision guided missiles.
 Quoting: Strike


Nope, land mines, korney, javelin and many many others that are not missiles.
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You both are right but you don't know that there is still one weapon and one tactic that I invented and it is cheap and can easily be manufactured in great number.I only don't have knowledge and skills how to make that weapon but I have idea how to make it.Tactic is easy every tank has one mistake which I see.
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S 500 means bye bye MAD, the west can print as much money as it wants its game over time soon.
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Yet russia keeps crying about a nato missile-shield that only exists on paper....
:kkwapper:
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also:

At least 100 ex-Georgian military servicemen fight alongside Ukrainian troops

[link to www.focus-fen.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67581681


So what if Gerogia is armed to the teeth. They were equipped with NATO toys back in 2008 and they are equipped by NATO today. They certainly dont have the money to buy it. So NATO can spend money, pump weapons in Georgia and RF is just gonna trash it again. Georgia is just too small to open a front against Russia. Couple of dozens of Iskanders and country turns into ash, its that small and not enough soldiers to make a stand.
 Quoting: Matjaz


georgia was not equiped by NATO back in 2008 trained yes.

for example for its airdefences Georgia has bought Buk and Tor missles from Ukraine. and many other "outdated" russian stuff from Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67581681

but they had help tho from NATO for example: The Georgian air-defence early-warning and command-control tactical system was connected to a NATO Air Situation Data Exchange (ASDE) via Turkey, allowing the country to receive data directly from the unified NATO air-defence system

also from israel: Georgia had a battery of the Israeli-made SPYDER-SR short-range self-propelled anti-aircraft system.

it was mostly thx to this that the Russian Air Force was unable to establish air superiority almost to the end of the five-day war.
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How did Russian air power do in the Georgian and Chechen wars?
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Better than you when you had encounter with two GIs. How was it for you?
The main reason for my wish to change this society is that so many human skills have no chance to come to fruition. Instead they are used in a really sick way that people are maintaining their own suffering from wars, hunger and illness. But it cannot be changed “top-down”, only in some kind of “grassroots revolution” or better “evolution” where more and more people work together to get rid of TPTB (whoever that is).
No need for a “big event” but a development. One of my ideas to reach it:
Don’t play “their” games - don’t use “their” rules - don’t think in the box of “their” paradigms.
It’s more “refuse” than “resist” - without too much ideology. You don't need to know much about "what's going on behind the curtains", it's mainly to create your own rules together with likeminded people.
That is what I mean with “I’m on the side of the people”.
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TBH, the Armata MBT looks like it'll set the bar for the modern MBT. The U.S. will have to catch up to it instead of the other way around.
 Quoting: Strike

Still there is weapon and tactic to beat and destroy any tank and vehicle.
 Quoting: visionaryS


Indeed, with precision guided missiles.
 Quoting: Strike


Nope, land mines, korney, javelin and many many others that are not missiles.
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What is korney.Don't know what it is cannot find it on net and My English is rusty.
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That same sentense I've read here before. Was it yesterday or when???

BTW when this here is an Armata tank

[link to www.wantchinatimes.com]

then I'd say those in the vid are surely not.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


Well mainly that one on the photo is not Armata but "Object 640 - Chornyy Orol" (Black Eagle), modification of T-80 what never was deployed to service.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.moddb.com]

Armata is still secret military project and there are known only concepts, it was presented last year only to politics. First deployment of this tanks is planned on this year.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to obengplus.com]
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Ok, I never was much interested in weapons (except ancient ones), so info like yours is helpful.

What you tell here leads to the conclusion: that one was out of his mind.

Wunderwaffen, everywhere Wunderwaffen. Next Flugscheiben coming and then Hitler rides in from Antarctica.
 Quoting: Böze_Tante


...on T-Rex.

hitrex
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nice dogs on picture.
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Military Studies 5 minutes ago
Sources inside #Debaltseve confirm the #Ukraine National Guard has abandoned their positions there.

The Nazi's are running now.
The REAL slaughter is about to begin.
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S 500 means bye bye MAD, the west can print as much money as it wants its game over time soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50406870


Yet russia keeps crying about a nato missile-shield that only exists on paper....
 Quoting: KipKat

They Elites don't tell you everything don't you know that. They tell you only pieces of info. Secret and military tech is 10,20,30,40,50, etc. years ahead of civil technology.
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At least 100 ex-Georgian military servicemen fight alongside Ukrainian troops

[link to www.focus-fen.net]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67581681


So what if Gerogia is armed to the teeth. They were equipped with NATO toys back in 2008 and they are equipped by NATO today. They certainly dont have the money to buy it. So NATO can spend money, pump weapons in Georgia and RF is just gonna trash it again. Georgia is just too small to open a front against Russia. Couple of dozens of Iskanders and country turns into ash, its that small and not enough soldiers to make a stand.
 Quoting: Matjaz


georgia was not equiped by NATO back in 2008 trained yes.

for example for its airdefences Georgia has bought Buk and Tor missles from Ukraine. and many other "outdated" russian stuff from Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67581681

but they had help tho from NATO for example: The Georgian air-defence early-warning and command-control tactical system was connected to a NATO Air Situation Data Exchange (ASDE) via Turkey, allowing the country to receive data directly from the unified NATO air-defence system

also from israel: Georgia had a battery of the Israeli-made SPYDER-SR short-range self-propelled anti-aircraft system.

it was mostly thx to this that the Russian Air Force was unable to establish air superiority almost to the end of the five-day war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67581681


Lol at this guy talking with himself.
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