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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1680182 Netherlands 03/05/2014 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: HL Shancken And the Romanian revolution was proven to have been staged by Moscow from the beginning. But Russian propaganda and disinformation is so successful that the truth is a casualty even before the war. As I said, high chances that this is just disinformatija at work, the RT people are just doing their job, and useful idiots dutifully follow. Estonian Minister Paeti confirmes the tape is AUTHENTIC [link to www.delfi.ee] Who is the useless idiot no? It seems that he reported "the rumors he heard on a visit to Kiev", which is not exactly reporting facts. The, "he accused those behind the leaking of the phone conversation of trying to discredit the new government of Ukraine". I would say that there is enough to wait for same real confirmation. But again, in the meantime, cui prodest? - if it is not clear, who gains from the rumors? Is Putin above such methods? He said the new government REJECTS any investigation. in this case it's clear "cui non prodest" to know the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55194858 Romania 03/05/2014 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 8 min Quoting: Luisport BREAKING: Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders - leaked EU's Ashton phone tape [link to on.rt.com] #Ukraine [link to twitter.com (secure)] The same thing happened in Romania in 1989, both military and civilians were shot with the same ammunition (bullets unusual caliber made of widia) which was of foreign origin. Many soldiers were shot in the head through the helmet. And the Romanian revolution was proven to have been staged by Moscow from the beginning. But Russian propaganda and disinformation is so successful that the truth is a casualty even before the war. Moscow was indeed the BIG player, but they HAD THE AGREEMENT OF US! THE DEAL WAS NONE AT THE SECRET MEETING FROM MALTA! The Malta Summit comprised a meeting between U.S. President George H. W. Bush and U.S.S.R. leader Mikhail Gorbachev, taking place between December 2-3 1989, just a few weeks after the fall of the Berlin Wall. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] This was 2 weeks before the "revolution" started in Romania! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51694535 United States 03/05/2014 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 On BBC.. Quoting: Nordic Wolf 15:03: US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel says Washington plans to expand military cooperation with its "allies" Poland and the Baltic States Good way of defusing the situation.. NOT! I don't get there strategy!!! Something is wrong with things concerning the economy!!!!! Create crises that overshadow these facts!!! Remember all these dead bankers??? Something is up Timing is everything Withour securing additional resources the western economy is done. illusion cannot be sustained |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53887407 Belgium 03/05/2014 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The simple fact that MSM are not reporting it makes the whole thing fishy. Otherwise they would have discredited the tape already. They jump on others unfounded info faster than that when it comes to diabolize Bashar, Iran, Putin etc |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1454349 Canada 03/05/2014 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Take that you "west boo boo, censorship, sicking, w russia!!!": Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55168473 BBC: 15.28 Estonia's Foreign Minister Urmas Paet speaks out over a leaked telephone conversation he had with EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton in which he discussed the events in Ukraine. 15:29: Mr Paet said he had been making known to Ms Ashton the rumours he heard on a visit to Kiev, that snipers from both sides were involved in the killing of protesters in Independence Square last month. 15:30: He accused those behind the leaking of the phone conversation of trying "to discredit the new government of Ukraine". The sad thing is that no one wants to listen to this. |
Nordic Wolf User ID: 55188312 Sweden 03/05/2014 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 On BBC.. Quoting: Nordic Wolf 15:03: US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel says Washington plans to expand military cooperation with its "allies" Poland and the Baltic States Good way of defusing the situation.. NOT! I don't get there strategy!!! Something is wrong with things concerning the economy!!!!! Create crises that overshadow these facts!!! Remember all these dead bankers??? Something is up Timing is everything Withour securing additional resources the western economy is done. illusion cannot be sustained Illusion can not be sustained.. Look at my signature. Maybe its not such a bad thing? ;) Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1454349 Canada 03/05/2014 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The simple fact that MSM are not reporting it makes the whole thing fishy. Otherwise they would have discredited the tape already. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53887407 They jump on others unfounded info faster than that when it comes to diabolize Bashar, Iran, Putin etc They have... BBC: 15.28 Estonia's Foreign Minister Urmas Paet speaks out over a leaked telephone conversation he had with EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton in which he discussed the events in Ukraine. 15:29: Mr Paet said he had been making known to Ms Ashton the rumours he heard on a visit to Kiev, that snipers from both sides were involved in the killing of protesters in Independence Square last month. 15:30: He accused those behind the leaking of the phone conversation of trying "to discredit the new government of Ukraine". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55196532 Italy 03/05/2014 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR · 32 sec Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7801970 #Donetsk RSA attacked by 2000 pro-#russian protesters.#Ukrainians will come to the central square at 6pm for the rally -5channel |PR News Haha, "attacked", they seemed a lot more peaceful than the Maidan crowd. Hey, has EuroMaiden BS already tweeted about the tapes? Can you please stop these fucking provocations so people can use this thread to feed the situation as we do since page 1? Thanks Then maybe you could use a better source than Euromaidan;) |
Sun_dancer User ID: 48671548 United States 03/05/2014 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: HL Shancken And the Romanian revolution was proven to have been staged by Moscow from the beginning. But Russian propaganda and disinformation is so successful that the truth is a casualty even before the war. As I said, high chances that this is just disinformatija at work, the RT people are just doing their job, and useful idiots dutifully follow. Estonian Minister Paeti confirmes the tape is AUTHENTIC [link to www.delfi.ee] Who is the useless idiot no? It seems that he reported "the rumors he heard on a visit to Kiev", which is not exactly reporting facts. The, "he accused those behind the leaking of the phone conversation of trying to discredit the new government of Ukraine". I would say that there is enough to wait for same real confirmation. But again, in the meantime, cui prodest? - if it is not clear, who gains from the rumors? Is Putin above such methods? Haha, in the candid conversation he was much more positive. Why would he make it sound awful to Ashton if it was all bullshit? This is big mission for them, they don't play these stupid games in private. But they do play them in public. Who is useul idiot for whom? LMAO. Sun_dancer |
Puckerfactor User ID: 45874141 United States 03/05/2014 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I can't believe this phone call isn't leading anywhere in the MSM. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53887407 Not a mention, not even a biased article. Tho 99% YT comment condemns the west and supports russia on this What will it take for the masks to fall off?!! it's just sickening I think they are trying to confirm the authenticity at this time. OR they are worried that reporting on this could further escalate things. The problem for the MSM now, as i see it, is that they no longer run the table when it comes to breaking news. The internet has eclipsed them in most ways. They are playing from behind. I agree with you on that last part, but come on "they are worried that reporting this could further escalate things"? they have been trying to escalate things the whole time! that is their purpose! Some yes, I agree with you but i should have been clearer,the Financial MSM want it deescalated, they're deathly afraid of this crisis hitting them in the "brokerage account". Ever closer to darkness we ride relentless hell hounds by our side.... ....I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hellfire was following close behind him...... Just keeping the score..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55190273 Italy 03/05/2014 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Now is the time to come out of the shares of NATO and the EU. Sanctions are inevitable. You want to completely withdraw from German companies, especially the automobile industry, which is almost 100% tied to the markets of Russia and China. In response to the sanctions, Germany, these markets will lose. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55192520 Germany is telling the US, very diplomatically, to go fk themselves. Germany is in on this whole thing with Tsar Putin, and the both of them are going to parcel out all of Europe to eachother once all the dust settles. You got it! That would be strange - being right, I mean - because the old maniac Tsar worshipper never got one right in 20 years or so. But let's see the positive side, it was published on GLP, and the GLP effect is a strong guarantee that it will not happen. |
HL Shancken User ID: 43079490 United States 03/05/2014 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 RT ‏@RT_com · 8 min Quoting: Luisport BREAKING: Kiev snipers hired by Maidan leaders - leaked EU's Ashton phone tape [link to on.rt.com] #Ukraine [link to twitter.com (secure)] The same thing happened in Romania in 1989, both military and civilians were shot with the same ammunition (bullets unusual caliber made of widia) which was of foreign origin. Many soldiers were shot in the head through the helmet. And the Romanian revolution was proven to have been staged by Moscow from the beginning. But Russian propaganda and disinformation is so successful that the truth is a casualty even before the war. As I said, high chances that this is just disinformatija at work, the RT people are just doing their job, and useful idiots dutifully follow. Strange that nobody asks "cui prodest?" in this ambiguous story, they are so fast to do so when it comes to true or alleged western plots. Think, think ... I watched the Putin press conference today, which received high praise from far too many. Putin has the illiterate world under his spell. Here is a juxtaposition they will never see. Here is the article I wish would have been written and in front of everyone who watched the masterful performance that Putin gave. The spell would not have worked so well. [link to www.thestar.com] A revolution worth joining. Holistic medicine's finest hour. |
Newshunter User ID: 22884594 United States 03/05/2014 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 BBC 15:03 US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel says Washington plans to expand military cooperation with its "allies" Poland and the Baltic States Jim Sciutto ‏@jimsciutto now Breaking: US to send more aircraft to Baltic, extend air mission in Poland & convene NATO ministers in response to #Urkaine Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 3m Reuters: U.S. Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel says he aims to speak with his #Ukraine counterpart on Wednesday #Crimea |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 55168473 Italy 03/05/2014 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 European and US foreign ministers met with their Russian counterpart after lunch at the French presidential palace, reports the BBC's diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall. It has not yet emerged if there was any progress in the talks, or what the atmosphere was, she adds. More talks are expected later on Wednesday. |
Chippey User ID: 54622593 Ukraine 03/05/2014 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 On BBC.. Quoting: Nordic Wolf 15:03: US Defence Secretary Chuck Hagel says Washington plans to expand military cooperation with its "allies" Poland and the Baltic States Good way of defusing the situation.. NOT! I don't get there strategy!!! Something is wrong with things concerning the economy!!!!! Create crises that overshadow these facts!!! Remember all these dead bankers??? Something is up Timing is everything Withour securing additional resources the western economy is done. illusion cannot be sustained Did Putin not win enough medals at Sochi? He must be mad at something. Money is the source of all evil. Some have too much and some don't have enough. |
Sun_dancer User ID: 48671548 United States 03/05/2014 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Take that you "west boo boo, censorship, sicking, w russia!!!": Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55168473 BBC: 15.28 Estonia's Foreign Minister Urmas Paet speaks out over a leaked telephone conversation he had with EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton in which he discussed the events in Ukraine. 15:29: Mr Paet said he had been making known to Ms Ashton the rumours he heard on a visit to Kiev, that snipers from both sides were involved in the killing of protesters in Independence Square last month. 15:30: He accused those behind the leaking of the phone conversation of trying "to discredit the new government of Ukraine". The sad thing is that no one wants to listen to this. Now this is a complete flip-flop. On the private tape he says "all evidence" shows it was same snipers, now publicly he is saying there were two sets of snipers? And suddently the firm opinion of his doctor Olga has become "rumours"? If you cannot tell where he is lying then God help you ... Sun_dancer |
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Nordic Wolf User ID: 55188312 Sweden 03/05/2014 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 One more live feed.. Not even sure it is the same city to be honest but this is a pro-ukrainian rally.. (i think) [link to www.ustream.tv] Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
Limpan User ID: 1474973 Sweden 03/05/2014 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 LMAO No options should be ruled out in efforts to exert pressure on Russia over its incursion into Ukraine, Prime Minister David Cameron has told MPs. Russia's "dismembering" of the Crimean peninsula was unacceptable and "could not be allowed to stand", he said. |
HL Shancken User ID: 43079490 United States 03/05/2014 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55194858 The same thing happened in Romania in 1989, both military and civilians were shot with the same ammunition (bullets unusual caliber made of widia) which was of foreign origin. Many soldiers were shot in the head through the helmet. And the Romanian revolution was proven to have been staged by Moscow from the beginning. But Russian propaganda and disinformation is so successful that the truth is a casualty even before the war. Moscow was indeed the BIG player, but they HAD THE AGREEMENT OF US! THE DEAL WAS NONE AT THE SECRET MEETING FROM MALTA! The Malta Summit comprised a meeting between U.S. President George H. W. Bush and U.S.S.R. leader Mikhail Gorbachev, taking place between December 2-3 1989, just a few weeks after the fall of the Berlin Wall. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] This was 2 weeks before the "revolution" started in Romania! Something that also occurred two weeks prior to the revolution was the appearance of reporters from Moscow in the Romanian countryside, having been sent there in advance in order to cover a revolution that was not even on the radar screen. That and other evidence clearly indicate that the Romanian "revolution" that brought down Ceaucescu was entirely a Soviet operation. When the dust settles in Ukraine I think we will be able to prove the same. A revolution worth joining. Holistic medicine's finest hour. |
Limpan User ID: 1474973 Sweden 03/05/2014 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 #Ukraine: #Kyiv doctor denies telling #Estonia FM that civilians, police shot by same snipers: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] … pic.twitter.com/q49K37v8ff Quoting: Threelittlelambs Why would he lie in a conversation with Ashton!! Trying to cover up the truth |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53887407 Belgium 03/05/2014 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 The simple fact that MSM are not reporting it makes the whole thing fishy. Otherwise they would have discredited the tape already. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53887407 They jump on others unfounded info faster than that when it comes to diabolize Bashar, Iran, Putin etc They have... BBC: 15.28 Estonia's Foreign Minister Urmas Paet speaks out over a leaked telephone conversation he had with EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton in which he discussed the events in Ukraine. 15:29: Mr Paet said he had been making known to Ms Ashton the rumours he heard on a visit to Kiev, that snipers from both sides were involved in the killing of protesters in Independence Square last month. 15:30: He accused those behind the leaking of the phone conversation of trying "to discredit the new government of Ukraine". Hadn't seen that. Were they suppose to release the phone call in 2 years or so then? To avoid discrediting the new government. There should be a political european outrage right now and an investigation should be on its way already. The "rumor" must be verified if it's indeed a rumor. But you and I know that it will be dug up as they will jump on the next "intolerable move" from Russia and push for an escalation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1680182 Netherlands 03/05/2014 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 #Ukraine: #Kyiv doctor denies telling #Estonia FM that civilians, police shot by same snipers: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] … pic.twitter.com/q49K37v8ff Quoting: Threelittlelambs She fears for her life, logically. |
Threelittlelambs Curious.... User ID: 38399358 United States 03/05/2014 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 #Ukraine: #Kyiv doctor denies telling #Estonia FM that civilians, police shot by same snipers: [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] … pic.twitter.com/q49K37v8ff Quoting: Threelittlelambs Why would he lie in a conversation with Ashton!! Trying to cover up the truth I completely agree. He probably fears for his life. |
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