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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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REEUUTERS: Ukrainian Foreign Minister is ready for new round of Geneva talks if Russia supports election #Ukraine
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REEUUTERS: Ukrainian Foreign Minister is ready for new round of Geneva talks if Russia supports election #Ukraine
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Which wont change a thing on the ground
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Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

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[link to www.bank.gov.ua]

less than 50 percent


Stepan Kubiv: The receipt of a loan from the IMF will enable the National Bank to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves and help strengthen the stability of the national currency

05.05.2014

He noted that over USD 1 billion that would come from the first tranche would be used to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the National Bank of Ukraine, which would enable Ukraine to strengthen its financial system.



So, are they borrowing money to replace the gold they let go on a plane to somewhere.
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Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

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Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
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Ukraine is only a "few steps" away from "military confrontation''

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: Unit 88


2 steps from all out war

Russian invasion
NATO involvement
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Why would NATO get involved? Ukraine is not in NATO.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.

NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
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REEUUTERS: Ukrainian Foreign Minister is ready for new round of Geneva talks if Russia supports election #Ukraine
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Which wont change a thing on the ground
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Mostly because Russia wont support the election...
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2 steps from all out war

Russian invasion
NATO involvement
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Why would NATO get involved? Ukraine is not in NATO.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.

NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
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REEUUTERS: Ukrainian Foreign Minister is ready for new round of Geneva talks if Russia supports election #Ukraine
 Quoting: Newshunter


Which wont change a thing on the ground
 Quoting: Unit 88


Mostly because Russia wont support the election...
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Even if they did nothing can stop this now. Nothing.
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Why would NATO get involved? Ukraine is not in NATO.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.

NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
 Quoting: Unit 88



Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?

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Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082802


Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
 Quoting: Matjaz


they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
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SBU head says Russian soldiers participating in fighting in eastern Ukraine. They're coming in from Crimea
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The soldiers now coming into Eastern Ukraine from Crimea are Ukrianian soldiers. Members of the Ukranian military in revolt against Kiev.
They are not Russian for goodness sake, they are Ukranians who were stationed in Crimea, now moving back to Ukraine but via Russia because the crossing to Kherson is now closed to them.
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Standoff outside military college. #Donestk #Ukraine @vicenews pic.twitter.com/LbtyJWCYXh

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Military college on edge of #Donetsk surrounded by pro Russia rebels. @VICEUK pic.twitter.com/fwoXNw8tnE

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Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082802


Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
 Quoting: Matjaz


The tanks and vehicles have orange and black ribbons on their sides, presumably the same ones used in the Donbass.
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Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.

NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
 Quoting: Unit 88



Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.

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[link to www.bank.gov.ua]

less than 50 percent


Stepan Kubiv: The receipt of a loan from the IMF will enable the National Bank to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves and help strengthen the stability of the national currency

05.05.2014

He noted that over USD 1 billion that would come from the first tranche would be used to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the National Bank of Ukraine, which would enable Ukraine to strengthen its financial system.



So, are they borrowing money to replace the gold they let go on a plane to somewhere.
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You couldn,t make this shit up..^^^

This whole thing is about bringing the Ukraine under dollar/Imf control...in order to stop Ukraine going along with the new BRICS bank being set up.

Debt is control.
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[link to abcnews.go.com]

This not because NATO wants to get involved. They just want to assure us that help will come if Russia tries anything here.

It has been a constant bombardment in our media... Different people saying over and over again that the alliance is strong.
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Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082802


Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
 Quoting: Matjaz


The tanks and vehicles have orange and black ribbons on their sides, presumably the same ones used in the Donbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082802


There's a certain feel to the whole thing, like it's being turned into a new age swastika.
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Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

bump
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082802


Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
 Quoting: Matjaz


they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
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Why would this be out of ordinary? The parade is celebrating victory in WW2.
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[link to abcnews.go.com]

This not because NATO wants to get involved. They just want to assure us that help will come if Russia tries anything here.

It has been a constant bombardment in our media... Different people saying over and over again that the alliance is strong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53992852


If you have to keep assuring and saying 'we are strong' then the opposite is true.
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Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
 Quoting: Unit 88



Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Needless to say probably worst crisis since Cuba missile crisis. Anyone see a happy ending? Obama doesn't like Putin and Putin doesn'trust the US.
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bruce springnote@BSpringnote · 19m
SBU head says Russian soldiers participating in fighting in eastern Ukraine. They're coming in from Crimea
 Quoting: Newshunter

The soldiers now coming into Eastern Ukraine from Crimea are Ukrianian soldiers. Members of the Ukranian military in revolt against Kiev.
They are not Russian for goodness sake, they are Ukranians who were stationed in Crimea, now moving back to Ukraine but via Russia because the crossing to Kherson is now closed to them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55803746


As I remember only small percentage of soldiers stayed in Crimea. The rest left the peninsula. I'm sure those who stayed are Ukranians but give them 15 years and they'll be saying they are Russian. Insane in Ukraine..
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Germany advises all German nationals to leave Eastern and Southern Ukraine
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Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
[link to www.tvn24.pl]

Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

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Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
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they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
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All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
 Quoting: Unit 88



Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Needless to say probably worst crisis since Cuba missile crisis. Anyone see a happy ending? Obama doesn't like Putin and Putin doesn'trust the US.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


I think Ukraine will descend into a full scale proxy civil war, with the country eventually being split in two.
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Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.
NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792

Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55

All NATO members would have to agree for alliance involvement into a non member state.
 Quoting: Unit 88
Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55

They would never get NATO agreement.

But that would not stop, for example, Poland acting alone knowing that NATO has their back. And that means, for example, that if Russia encircled and seized Kiev, as many think likely, Poland might take the opportunity to seize Lviv, largely unopposed, and Russia would do nothing about it for fear of NATO.

And any post-war new Russian-friendly government in Kiev would have lost West Ukriane to annexation by Poland.
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Is that a possibility? Or are there members who'd be dead set against it?
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Needless to say probably worst crisis since Cuba missile crisis. Anyone see a happy ending? Obama doesn't like Putin and Putin doesn'trust the US.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


I think Ukraine will descend into a full scale proxy civil war, with the country eventually being split in two.
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Proxy war is right..this scenario couldn't have been predicted 20 years ago.
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PUTIN HAS CROSSED THE LINE, U.K.'S DAVEY SAYS. which line?





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