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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54622593 Ukraine 05/06/2014 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Crimea was the first step for Russia to reclaim ALL former USSR territory. Ukraine was or is to be the second step. If Ukraine is taken I would guess Bulgaria could be next as it has a very small population and already many Russians buying up cheap properties there. Ukraine did not join NATO because it felt no need. Big mistake. Some people on here need to do a bit of history reading or catch up on facts. The ex Prime minister, Yulia, may have been corrupt but not half as corrupt as the Yanukovych gang.They brought the country to bankruptcy and depleted the army. Not surprising when the main general was a Russian. The government has tried to control the terrorists with the least amount of aggression but it has not worked. Even the police are not doing what they should to control the bandits. All this could be solved peacfully but not while a few men want to seize Ukraine territory and hand it over to Russia. It should be remembered that many Ukrainians were trapped in Russia when the borders were drawn up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57574017 Canada 05/06/2014 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 [link to www.bank.gov.ua] Quoting: steelseries less than 50 percent Stepan Kubiv: The receipt of a loan from the IMF will enable the National Bank to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves and help strengthen the stability of the national currency 05.05.2014 He noted that over USD 1 billion that would come from the first tranche would be used to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the National Bank of Ukraine, which would enable Ukraine to strengthen its financial system. So, are they borrowing money to replace the gold they let go on a plane to somewhere. You couldn,t make this shit up..^^^ This whole thing is about bringing the Ukraine under dollar/Imf control...in order to stop Ukraine going along with the new BRICS bank being set up. Debt is control. in order to stop Ukraine going along with the new BRICS bank being set up. I never even thought of that. I knew about the BRICS plans but never thought about that aspect of it. |
firinne User ID: 52431909 Ireland 05/06/2014 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Unit 88 Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement. So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent. Needless to say probably worst crisis since Cuba missile crisis. Anyone see a happy ending? Obama doesn't like Putin and Putin doesn'trust the US. I think Ukraine will descend into a full scale proxy civil war, with the country eventually being split in two. Proxy war is right..this scenario couldn't have been predicted 20 years ago. This is all about destabalizing Russia, both economically and militarily. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57708099 United States 05/06/2014 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly. NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance. Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev. It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO. |
Falter User ID: 57111163 Sweden 05/06/2014 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Crimea was the first step for Russia to reclaim ALL former USSR territory. Ukraine was or is to be the second step. If Ukraine is taken I would guess Bulgaria could be next as it has a very small population and already many Russians buying up cheap properties there. Ukraine did not join NATO because it felt no need. Big mistake. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54622593 Some people on here need to do a bit of history reading or catch up on facts. The ex Prime minister, Yulia, may have been corrupt but not half as corrupt as the Yanukovych gang.They brought the country to bankruptcy and depleted the army. Not surprising when the main general was a Russian. The government has tried to control the terrorists with the least amount of aggression but it has not worked. Even the police are not doing what they should to control the bandits. All this could be solved peacfully but not while a few men want to seize Ukraine territory and hand it over to Russia. It should be remembered that many Ukrainians were trapped in Russia when the borders were drawn up. If you think Putin and the Russian government is so damn stupid, you got a problem... sir. "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57758874 Bulgaria 05/06/2014 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Because st. George is a guardian of the army and today is st. George day. [link to dividingmytime.typepad.com] Happy St George's Day Thanks! Happy St George's Day to you too! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56376077 Sweden 05/06/2014 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Because st. George is a guardian of the army and today is st. George day. [link to dividingmytime.typepad.com] Happy St George's Day That or they're showing support for the Donbass fighters, I believe they wear the same type of ribbon on their sleeves. I've never seen these isignia on Russian vehicles before. |
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Falter User ID: 57111163 Sweden 05/06/2014 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Russian Spring ‏@diablo3xnews 3 min URGENT: HUMANITARIAN CATASTROPHE REALITY IN #Sloviansk NO FOOD, MEDICINE, INT. RED CROSS MUST ACT HUMANITARIAN SUPPORT NOT ALLOWED BY JUNTA. "When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Jean Paul Sartre "In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason." -Ernest Hemingway "China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." -Napoleon Bonaparte "Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch." -Vladimir Putin World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020. |
missanthropic55 User ID: 20648333 United Kingdom 05/06/2014 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly. NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance. Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev. It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO. I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states. Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54622593 Ukraine 05/06/2014 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Crimea was the first step for Russia to reclaim ALL former USSR territory. Ukraine was or is to be the second step. If Ukraine is taken I would guess Bulgaria could be next as it has a very small population and already many Russians buying up cheap properties there. Ukraine did not join NATO because it felt no need. Big mistake. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54622593 Some people on here need to do a bit of history reading or catch up on facts. The ex Prime minister, Yulia, may have been corrupt but not half as corrupt as the Yanukovych gang.They brought the country to bankruptcy and depleted the army. Not surprising when the main general was a Russian. The government has tried to control the terrorists with the least amount of aggression but it has not worked. Even the police are not doing what they should to control the bandits. All this could be solved peacfully but not while a few men want to seize Ukraine territory and hand it over to Russia. It should be remembered that many Ukrainians were trapped in Russia when the borders were drawn up. If you think Putin and the Russian government is so damn stupid, you got a problem... sir. Putin himself said it is not too late to change past mistakes and he was talking about the breakup of the Soviet Union, perhaps more in regard to Crimea. Putin is in a very dangerous mood. Putin has absolutly no regard for the people of Ukraine. |
Unit 88 User ID: 57544050 United Kingdom 05/06/2014 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792 Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly. NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance. Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev. It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO. I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states. Despite the promise that NATO would not go further east than Germany. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41196294 United Kingdom 05/06/2014 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Notzuckerberg is continuing to troll under multiple IP's proxies Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35370080 same words, same trolling, trolling the same issue over and over, over many pages, refusing to admit its on the Russian government's own website all trolling that same exact thing but under multiple different IPs. The only conclusion is that Notzuckerberg is using multiple proxies here to troll up the thread. Just catching up after being out for a bit. Six more pages to go. I hope ac 080 is banned by the time I catch up |
missanthropic55 User ID: 20648333 United Kingdom 05/06/2014 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: missanthropic55 Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev. It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO. I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states. Despite the promise that NATO would not go further east than Germany. This is why Putin doesn't trust the US. I think now we have Russia pushing back against a western led offensive. This is much bigger than a Ukrainian civil war. Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
Saddletramp User ID: 726900 Puerto Rico 05/06/2014 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I don't know if anyone posted this or not but some Ukrainian Media is reporting that Russia is currently invading as of 5/6/2014... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Unit 88 User ID: 57544050 United Kingdom 05/06/2014 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099 It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO. I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states. Despite the promise that NATO would not go further east than Germany. This is why Putin doesn't trust the US. I think now we have Russia pushing back against a western led offensive. This is much bigger than a Ukrainian civil war. Exactly :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57463367 Germany 05/06/2014 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Thee russian separatists therefore stay illegal for now. [link to dumskaya.net] Nice BALLS there Kiev! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20882119 United Kingdom 05/06/2014 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099 It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO. I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states. Despite the promise that NATO would not go further east than Germany. This is why Putin doesn't trust the US. I think now we have Russia pushing back against a western led offensive. This is much bigger than a Ukrainian civil war. Nato is either a paper tiger, ravishef by cuts and withdrawal of troops and tanks or is encircling Russia and about to invade Moscow. Can't be both. |
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missanthropic55 User ID: 20648333 United Kingdom 05/06/2014 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 This is why Putin doesn't trust the US. I think now we have Russia pushing back against a western led offensive. This is much bigger than a Ukrainian civil war. Nato is either a paper tiger, ravishef by cuts and withdrawal of troops and tanks or is encircling Russia and about to invade Moscow. Can't be both. Or neither? I can't understand that logic. Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57756157 Croatia 05/06/2014 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55082802 [link to www.tvn24.pl] Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video. Video wont play for me. How do they look like? they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles Why would this be out of ordinary? The parade is celebrating victory in WW2. Interesting how Ukraine has no such events in their history or schedules - victory over nazistic Germany. Soon they might only celebrate victory over their own citizens who speak a little different language. |
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