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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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Crimea was the first step for Russia to reclaim ALL former USSR territory. Ukraine was or is to be the second step. If Ukraine is taken I would guess Bulgaria could be next as it has a very small population and already many Russians buying up cheap properties there. Ukraine did not join NATO because it felt no need. Big mistake.
Some people on here need to do a bit of history reading or catch up on facts.
The ex Prime minister, Yulia, may have been corrupt but not half as corrupt as the Yanukovych gang.They brought the country to bankruptcy and depleted the army. Not surprising when the main general was a Russian. The government has tried to control the terrorists with the least amount of aggression but it has not worked. Even the police are not doing what they should to control the bandits. All this could be solved peacfully but not while a few men want to seize Ukraine territory and hand it over to Russia. It should be remembered that many Ukrainians were trapped in Russia when the borders were drawn up.
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[link to www.bank.gov.ua]

less than 50 percent


Stepan Kubiv: The receipt of a loan from the IMF will enable the National Bank to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves and help strengthen the stability of the national currency

05.05.2014

He noted that over USD 1 billion that would come from the first tranche would be used to replenish the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the National Bank of Ukraine, which would enable Ukraine to strengthen its financial system.



So, are they borrowing money to replace the gold they let go on a plane to somewhere.
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You couldn,t make this shit up..^^^

This whole thing is about bringing the Ukraine under dollar/Imf control...in order to stop Ukraine going along with the new BRICS bank being set up.

Debt is control.
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in order to stop Ukraine going along with the new BRICS bank being set up.

I never even thought of that. I knew about the BRICS plans but never thought about that aspect of it. hf
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Germany was against sending Air Forces to Libya but still agreed to NATO involvement.

So its possible that peacekeeping forces will be sent.
 Quoting: Unit 88


Needless to say probably worst crisis since Cuba missile crisis. Anyone see a happy ending? Obama doesn't like Putin and Putin doesn'trust the US.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


I think Ukraine will descend into a full scale proxy civil war, with the country eventually being split in two.
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Proxy war is right..this scenario couldn't have been predicted 20 years ago.
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This is all about destabalizing Russia, both economically and militarily.
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2 steps from all out war

Russian invasion
NATO involvement
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Why would NATO get involved? Ukraine is not in NATO.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.

NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO.
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Crimea was the first step for Russia to reclaim ALL former USSR territory. Ukraine was or is to be the second step. If Ukraine is taken I would guess Bulgaria could be next as it has a very small population and already many Russians buying up cheap properties there. Ukraine did not join NATO because it felt no need. Big mistake.
Some people on here need to do a bit of history reading or catch up on facts.
The ex Prime minister, Yulia, may have been corrupt but not half as corrupt as the Yanukovych gang.They brought the country to bankruptcy and depleted the army. Not surprising when the main general was a Russian. The government has tried to control the terrorists with the least amount of aggression but it has not worked. Even the police are not doing what they should to control the bandits. All this could be solved peacfully but not while a few men want to seize Ukraine territory and hand it over to Russia. It should be remembered that many Ukrainians were trapped in Russia when the borders were drawn up.
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If you think Putin and the Russian government is so damn stupid, you got a problem... sir.
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Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
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they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
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Because st. George is a guardian of the army and today is st. George day.
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Happy St George's Day

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Thanks! Happy St George's Day to you too!
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Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
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they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
 Quoting: Anti-Banderist

iamwith
Because st. George is a guardian of the army and today is st. George day.
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Happy St George's Day

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That or they're showing support for the Donbass fighters, I believe they wear the same type of ribbon on their sleeves. I've never seen these isignia on Russian vehicles before.
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Sorry about messed up reply...wasn't me! Lol
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Is thats why Sahtjar colors are black/orange? Cause of St.George ribbon or something? just asking.. 1dunno1
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URGENT: HUMANITARIAN CATASTROPHE REALITY IN #Sloviansk NO FOOD, MEDICINE, INT. RED CROSS MUST ACT HUMANITARIAN SUPPORT NOT ALLOWED BY JUNTA.
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Why would NATO get involved? Ukraine is not in NATO.
 Quoting: Skizzy


Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.

NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states.
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Crimea was the first step for Russia to reclaim ALL former USSR territory. Ukraine was or is to be the second step. If Ukraine is taken I would guess Bulgaria could be next as it has a very small population and already many Russians buying up cheap properties there. Ukraine did not join NATO because it felt no need. Big mistake.
Some people on here need to do a bit of history reading or catch up on facts.
The ex Prime minister, Yulia, may have been corrupt but not half as corrupt as the Yanukovych gang.They brought the country to bankruptcy and depleted the army. Not surprising when the main general was a Russian. The government has tried to control the terrorists with the least amount of aggression but it has not worked. Even the police are not doing what they should to control the bandits. All this could be solved peacfully but not while a few men want to seize Ukraine territory and hand it over to Russia. It should be remembered that many Ukrainians were trapped in Russia when the borders were drawn up.
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If you think Putin and the Russian government is so damn stupid, you got a problem... sir.
 Quoting: Falter


Putin himself said it is not too late to change past mistakes and he was talking about the breakup of the Soviet Union, perhaps more in regard to Crimea. Putin is in a very dangerous mood. Putin has absolutly no regard for the people of Ukraine.
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Poland may freak out and do something... Or Turkey may go into Syria openly.

NATO may not get involve directly, but it's members may do something that drags alliance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57733792


Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Despite the promise that NATO would not go further east than Germany.
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This is a test.
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Believe it or not those are actually our soldiers. this vid went viral in Slovenia. tomato
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Notzuckerberg is continuing to troll under multiple IP's proxies

same words, same trolling, trolling the same issue over and over, over many pages, refusing to admit its on the Russian government's own website

all trolling that same exact thing but under multiple different IPs.

The only conclusion is that Notzuckerberg is using multiple proxies here to troll up the thread.
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Just catching up after being out for a bit.
Six more pages to go.
I hope ac 080 is banned by the time I catch up
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Perhaps I'm not wise enough on the workings of NATO. But getting the distinction impression that if Russia invades Ukraine, there will be direct NATO involvement. Maybe by request of Kiev.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Despite the promise that NATO would not go further east than Germany.
 Quoting: Unit 88


This is why Putin doesn't trust the US. I think now we have Russia pushing back against a western led offensive. This is much bigger than a Ukrainian civil war.
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I don't know if anyone posted this or not but some Ukrainian Media is reporting that Russia is currently invading as of 5/6/2014...


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It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Despite the promise that NATO would not go further east than Germany.
 Quoting: Unit 88


This is why Putin doesn't trust the US. I think now we have Russia pushing back against a western led offensive. This is much bigger than a Ukrainian civil war.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Exactly :)
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Ukraine Parliament votes no for nationwide decentralisation referendum.
Thee russian separatists therefore stay illegal for now.

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It is NATO's involvement, at least potentially, that is driving Russian involvement. Take NATO completely out of the picture and insure Ukraine neutrality in the Constitution with specific and ironclad guarantees and people would be shocked at how quickly all of these other issues would disappear. NATO has even jumped into the diplomacy and has scheduled exercises on Ukraine soil. It doesn't matter if NATO directly intervenes if Russia invades. They will be in like gangbusters in any part of Ukraine that Russia doesn't occupy and they will foment insurrection in the rest, just as they say Russia is doing now. NATO is the whole key to this crisis and the primary cause IMO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57708099


I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Despite the promise that NATO would not go further east than Germany.
 Quoting: Unit 88


This is why Putin doesn't trust the US. I think now we have Russia pushing back against a western led offensive. This is much bigger than a Ukrainian civil war.
 Quoting: missanthropic55

Nato is either a paper tiger, ravishef by cuts and withdrawal of troops and tanks or is encircling Russia and about to invade Moscow. Can't be both.
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This is a test.
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Believe it or not those are actually our soldiers. this vid went viral in Slovenia. tomato
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Ooh.
I had no idea.
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I agree ..started under Clinton with NATO moving into Baltic states.
 Quoting: missanthropic55


Despite the promise that NATO would not go further east than Germany.
 Quoting: Unit 88


This is why Putin doesn't trust the US. I think now we have Russia pushing back against a western led offensive. This is much bigger than a Ukrainian civil war.
 Quoting: missanthropic55

Nato is either a paper tiger, ravishef by cuts and withdrawal of troops and tanks or is encircling Russia and about to invade Moscow. Can't be both.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20882119


Or neither? I can't understand that logic.
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Preparations for the May 9th victory parade are underway in Moscow. Take notice of the new "emblems" on the tanks and armored vehicles, Wow!
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Link is from polish msm, wait out the commercial at the beginning of the video.

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Video wont play for me. How do they look like?
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they painted st george ribbon on tanks and other vehicles
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Why would this be out of ordinary? The parade is celebrating victory in WW2.
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Interesting how Ukraine has no such events in their history or schedules - victory over nazistic Germany. Soon they might only celebrate victory over their own citizens who speak a little different language.
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Where is Luis?
Come back, to steer this epic thread.
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Where is Luis?
Come back, to steer this epic thread.
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and change the title as well
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