UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

Great metaphor indeed!












Ukraine, you're done... bend over and take it.

The price of freedum.

ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 49 seg

Pro Ukr. 'National Defense' partisan militia in the forests of #Kharkiv
Dunno if they will follow a weak president...

Lyashko can't wait

yeah 60 tons of food...for weapons

RT @RT_com · 7 seg

CrossTalk: Ukrainian Crucible @PLCROSSTALK

Lol. If Mr. Putin was a true humanitarian he would just carpet. Bomb the entire east coast.

The Russian lies continue. A helicopter was shot down .

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ATTENTION : DO NOT trust #Poroshenko extend ceasefire for 72 hours as EU wants. Expect a BAD surprise, NAF should prepare for opposite !

seems the red karma tards are real mad with me :(

A number of helicopters have been shot down.
Is this a new one that we were not previously aware of??

What date/time/general location.

RT ‏@RT_com 2 min
RAW: Russian paratroopers hold massive military drill in Chelyabinsk.

You know, the one involving green men..

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The Putin sluts never have an answer to that one...

RT @RT_com · 1 min

RAW: Russian paratroopers hold massive military drill in Chelyabinsk

collaborated to the detriment of Kiev

I'm not sure whom you mean by Putin sluts, certainly not me, but I can answer about the referendums.

The referendums (Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk) were sanctioned and authorised by the various bodies that held them.

Much the same has been true of all referendums since time immemorial.

BTW does anybody know when is operation Rapid Trident scheduled for? Something could happen then.

A referendum certainly would need to be somehow authorized by the federal government, or else it is unconstitutional and therefor illegal. Also referendums and elections in general usually have neutral observers to limit the risk of fraud.

OSCE declared the Crimea referendum as unconstitutional and did not send observers.

What was the helicopter doing over the battle area?

was actually referring to the California analogy. So if mexicans sanction a referendum in California, that is all good? bring it on... i should let them know they have so many supporters from the US on the Ukraine thread @ GLP

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MEXICAN MILITARY CHOPPER CROSSES INTO USA, FIRES AT BORDER AGENTS [link to drudge.tw]

Mexico invades USA!!!

bold added. long but informative regards today:

The conversion of Ukraine and tensions between East and West

In 988 Prince Volodymyr the Great established Christianity in its Byzantine-Slavic rite as the national religion of his country, Kievan-Rus. This happened before the Great Church Schism of 1054 divided Christian East from West. The Kievan Church inherited the traditions of the Byzantine East and was part of the Patriarchate of Constantinople. Yet this Church also remained in full communion with the Latin West and its patriarch, the Pope of Rome.

Though Constantinople and Rome had their disputes, the Kievan hierarchy tried to work for Christian unity. Representatives from Rus participated in the Western Councils of Lyon (1245) and Constance (1418). Isidore, the Metropolitan of Kiev, was himself one of the creators of the Union of Florence (1439).

While the Kievan metropolia was working towards reunion, a new metropolia arose north of Kiev, in Moscow. The Church of Moscow refused to accept the Union of Florence and separated from the ancient metropolia in Kiev, announcing its autocephaly (self-governing status) in 1448. In 1589, with Greek Orthodoxy and Constantinople subject to Turkish domination, the Church of Moscow became a patriarchate.

Union with Rome and East/West divisions in Ukraine

The Kievan Church was challenged by the Protestant Reformation and the renewed Catholicism of that period and was also suffering a serious internal crisis. The Synod decided to pass under the jurisdiction of the see of Rome, re-establishing full communion of the Church in Ukraine with the Successor of Peter in 1595. The traditional Eastern rite of the Kievan Church was preserved and its ethnic, cultural and ecclesial existence was guaranteed, This was confirmed at the Council of Brest in 1596, which is the beginning of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church as an institution.

Some hierarchs and faithful of the Kievan Church, however, insisted on remaining under the jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Constantinople. Torn by internal division, the Central and Eastern sections of Ukraine passed under the control of the ruler of Moscow in 1654. Soon the Orthodox Kievan Metropolia was under the authority of the Moscow Patriarchate (1696). As the Tsarist Empire grew, it repressed the Greek Catholics and forced "conversions" to Russian Orthodoxy (1772, 1795, 1839, 1876). The Pratulin Martyrs died as a result of these repressions.

Orthodox clergy and laity in Ukraine were dissatisfied with the close connections of the Russian Orthodox Church with Russian national interests. "Ukrainophile" movements began and after the Russian Revolution in 1917 a movement began to gain autocephalous status for Ukrainian Orthodoxy. Attempts to proclaim autocephaly in the 1920s and 1940s were, however, repressed by the Soviet powers.

All of Ukraine had been part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth at the time of the Council of Brest, and western Ukraine remained so. The Church played a leading role in preserving the cultural and religious independence of the Ukrainian population there. As the Western Ukrainian lands later passed into Austrian control, the imperial government of the Hapsburgs supported and protected the Greek Catholic hierarchy.

[link to www.ewtn.com]

The OSCE were invited to send observers but having already made up their minds and being prescient they felt it wasn't necessary to actually go there so they could write about what happened from a position of ignorance of the facts.

Certainly in the USA a referendum along the lines of that used in Crimea would be either illegal nor unconstitutional, though it likely would be non-binding.

As a matter of fact exactly such a referendum is likely to take place in California and could result in the creation of the State of Jefferson. See
[link to www.sos.ca.gov]

Texas is the only State in the USA that has a right to divide itself into (up to four) States without approval of the Federal government. This an artifact of how Texas became a State in the first place.

I take it they were protecting the legitimate rights of ethnic Mexicans. Hint to FSB/RT.com: next target for your psyops

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I have no idea what it was doing flying over Ukrainian territory but a ceasefire should mean no shooting by both sides.

EU this winter------>