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Message Subject UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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Time for a Russian truth update. Strelkov? No, his real name is Igor Girkin of Moscow. He is a Colonel in the GRU.

Now I ask, if the liberation of Donetsk and Luhansk was truly about Ukrainian born people seceding from Kyiv, exercising their right to self-determination, being an 'organic' revolution then why is a GRU colonel in charge of the Luhansk and Donetsk self-defense forces?

The answer is simple. Putin doesn't give a damn about the Ukrainian people in those oblasts. Putin wants a land bridge to her only fresh water access port. He wants Ukraine's fertile lands in the East. He wants all the factories that are critical to the Russian military, b/c they produce advanced military equipment, arms, ordinance ... etc. Finally, he wants to be able to control ALL of the gas/oil pipeline network in Ukraine, or at least as much as he can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59676597


Congrat you can be diplomat
btw i support all of you statment can add one more end ex extracion of shale gas in donetsk region.
except those that Putin dont give a damm now it look that putin chose lesser painfull way to grab east ukr land my think is that real war will take much more casualty in military and civils.
remember iraq revolution in 1991 a contrary situation us can easly take out Saddam in that time and take Iraq without fight but they dont give a damm shit so they were slaughtered.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59713840

Yes, he could have included the Shale deposits. Also, Kyiv was robbed of it's legally held territorial claim to gas and oil deposits in the Black Sea. I doubt Putin will allow Poroshenko to develop and extract that massive wealth. Were Poroshenko smart, he'd sue Russia over the claim and use that money to pay off Gazprom debt. In fact those gas and oil deposits in the Black Sea that Putin illegally seized probably have a greater value than the entire Ukraine debt to Gazprom. It may the case Russia owes money to Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59713305


So lest raise another curtain
what is include in EU-UKR agrement that poro sing in ?
mayby this truce anounce and leting rusians geting what they want are price for ukr oligarhs to pay IF they want after this "war" still making money on EU - UKR trade
Ukr will be alowed to send good to EU without excise or other border fees do not know much about this.
Payment on UKR are realy low so if some industrial plants from EU will move to ukr it will be win win situation after all ofc not for regular labor from eu region.
 
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