UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

The U.N. Says 257 civilians Have Been Killed in East Ukraine but Refuses to Condemn the Ongoing Bombardment

The ongoing airstrikes in east Ukraine are killing mostly civilians, but the U.N. still refuses to even assign the blame where it belongs, much less condemn the perpetrators

[link to scgnews.com]

I don't remember any western attempts at humanitarian aid to Chechnya or Georgia. Refresh my memory with a link. Ukraine is scared to death that its civilians will be safe and it will be forced to use legal means to reclaim control of the regions in rebellion. If you want to use moral equivalency arguments Russia would be justified in invading regardless of international law. Is that really where you want to go?

This could be worked out if Kiev wanted to work it out. This is not the first conflict where issues like this have arisen.

Rockets from Ukraine were again on the territory of Russia, this time two ammunition exploded in the settlements and Gukovo Vaseckiy (Rostov region), media reported, citing sources in law enforcement bodies of the Russian Federation on Saturday afternoon . The incident resulted in no injuries.

Previously, the first shell hit the fence of one of the houses on the street in Gukovo Smirnov, the second - on the territory of the farm Vaseckiy.

According to law enforcement, fire lasted about two hours, from 08-00 to 10-00 in Moscow.

[link to www.vladtime.ru]

Excellent article. Worth the read...

Italian fighting for Ukraine:

'one of the 250 men enrolled in the battalion Azov. A training military deployed on the front line in eastern Ukraine, which is becoming an "international Legion" with the arrival of Swedish, French, English and Croatian. "We're not mercenaries, but volunteers with no money to pay," says the man in Panorama "fighting for a good fight."

A past in the far right Italian, Francesco F. did the manager and two years ago had landed in Kiev to sell commodities. Then he decided to take action last January, when the Ukrainian capital were in action the centuries of Pravy Sektor, the Ukrainian comrades lined up on the barricades of Maidan. "With us - tells Panorama - are also coming and volunteers Baltic Finns, who fear they will be the next prey of the Russians." And he concludes: "Shoot and kill you before you kill me, but without hatred even to the separatists. A man can not be said that if he has not experienced the war. "The battalion is composed of Azov "Patriots of Ukraine", the paramilitary wing of the Assembly nationalist social, extreme right, led by Andriy Belitsky, a former political prisoner. '

[link to www.ilgiornale.it]

"Smile more, gentlemen! Serious face doesn't imply
intellect: the most stupid things in the world are
done with this very face..." - Baron M.

Members of the former Kiev unit 3023 invited to join the forces of DPR

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Fresh footage of Ukr. forces combat preparations / operations in #Donbas. … #Ukraine

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On the occasion of his first meeting with five major Western media, including Le Figaro, the president of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko , said in Brussels on Friday its strategy to keep the breakaway provinces of the country: "We will never win back these regions by military means. We must reclaim there minds and hearts, "he said, asserting" ready to decentralization ", to" renovate infrastructure "and" proclaim a general amnesty "for insurgents that would weapons. He also admits that the repeal of a second official language of the Russian was "a mistake: I could never enact such a law."

Moscow strategy is to force the truce via Germany, take down poroshenko's gov through dissatisfaction, and continue girkin attacks until the point of open invasion.

Disagree. If a truce can hold then Poroshenko becomes an asset to Moscow and Russia will want him to survive. He will have to face down opposition in Kiev but his chocolate business sells to Russia and Moscow has leverage from that. Poroshenko is the best Moscow can do in Kiev right now.

I do not believe that they are not getting paid. That is BS. Any mercenary is fighting for pay, that's very definition of mercenary. And they await the fate of this guy Swedish/Danish NATO mercenary John G.O. Christensen
and other captures or killed mercenaries

Tank checkpoint rout, Poroshenko won't last like this....

'Four killed, five wounded. Painful and bitter defeat ... The reasons are obvious and usual for this war. First - utterly worthless command. It is the middle tier, which has not yet been replaced, and is not a damn thing he can, and can not. The second reason - poor coordination between the security forces of various ministries. Again - at the level of middle management; at the checkpoint differences on this basis do not. The third reason - disgusting intelligence. It is actually not. Or is there, perhaps, but then the results of reconnaissance or not come to the people who make responsible decisions, or ignored them. The fourth reason, it is the first - the lack of modern means of communication - protected from listening to the radio with the communication range of a few tens of kilometers. About what is happening at the checkpoint, still recognized by a cell phone or already - by glow of the fire on the post and the rumble of fire ... By the way, half an hour before the attack, the enemy turned mobile communications Slovyansk ... The fifth reason - unsaturation troops with modern weapons, including - antitank complexes. Enough already called this war "anti-terrorist operation." Enemy - not a bunch of terrorists and military groupings Russian occupiers, equipped and prepared much better than force ATU. This war must be treated as war - seriously, and keep it on all the rules of military science.

And finally ... What the hell, peace talks? .. Why - extension of unilateral ceasefire regime? .. Not dead? .. Should either fight or surrender. Let everyone choose for themselves ... "

[link to censor.net.ua]

maybe they are 'retired' like Girkin

Why not just leave south-east. Take army and leave cities. Pro-Russians proved that they are better at rebuilding and recreating their partially destroyed by junta infrastructure.

unlikeley he can 'face down', more likely a bullet will be coming for him.

Actually the USS McFaul paid a visit to Batumi port with humanitarian aid not long after the 4 day conflict ended. Humanitarian aid and a bank of Tomahawk's, as I recall.

[link to civil.ge]

It says the US had also made a number of previous aid shipments by air. I remember that at the time.

I agree, but should the truce hold, and Petro Piggy become a valuabe asset to Russia, IMO his short term life expectancy decreases by a significant margin, and the ones that will want him dead are first and foremost his own compatriots of neo-nazi affiliations.

Ahh... but I think you mean during the break from the Soviet Union? Sorry - I should have read the thread properly!

About Georgia war. Let us recall some interesting facts
Israel Planned To Use Georgia Airbases In Iran Attack
8-20-8
[link to rense.com]

Now in Autumn Caucasus is next target. They failed in 2008. After 6 years they will try to ignite war between Azerbaijan (heavily militarized like Georgia was) and Armenia to open corridor for Iran bombing.

US Foreign Policy in freefall either way. WTF are they up to?

The real question, as always, is who provides security for the "leaders". Poroshenko is the best judge of that since it is his life on the line. Who from the west oversees his protection?

Even the US might prefer Poroshenko to another coup because Russia failing to invade is still a real win in the long term. Brzezinski seemed to voice this in a recent speech. Far from being a trap, a Russian invasion would have been a nightmare and a real setback for long term US policy by strengthening Russian nationalism. Poroshenko stabilizing the situation without that happening is a western win. Russia can then be destabilized internally more easily.

It is still Putin who has lost his nerve IMO.

Is that where I want to go? Yes. Tell me, before you attempt to 'justify' the invasion, what international laws does Putin have the right to violate? Define the ways and means said laws must be broken as a result of moral equivalency?

Strelkov Update

Summary:

All night drones circling above us - more than 10 units at a time. Exploration for artillery, apparently according to ukrs, fits into the "ceasefire".

At night the enemy opened fire several times (including mortar) on the outskirts of the city. There is destruction in the private sector pos.Vostochny.

Su-25 in the morning twice dropped by parachute loads for their parts in Kramatorsk airport and other points. Because of the strong wind most of the cargo was blowed far away and has not reached the destination. Unfortunately, parachutes did not reach us.

Around 13:00 intense mortar fire broke between our positions on Semenovka and stronghold of the enemy at pos.Vostochny. Who started it - it is not clear (I have been told that the enemy. But do not rule out that our soldiers could not resist another shot at advancing along the road of ammunition column). During the firefight from the enemy side mortar fire was led by mine company and (in depth) howitzer battery. On our side, too, had to reconnect "overkilled" "Nona". In addition, a group of soldiers advanced to the post and processed it from the AGS. Part of mortar nests have been destroyed and ukrs exactly have losses. However, to date Semyonovka shelling by the enemy does not stop.

Opponent throws all new units of National guard on our site. Perhaps they hope that there will make 'Svidomi' go to the assault on the city actually. Honestly, I would not try on their place. Though, perhaps, the greatest possible "maydan recycle" is one of the tasks of continuing the war? Then - yes. Makes sense ... '

PS. Meanwhile, the shooting of the Donetsk city by internationally banned weapons continues. Today, the geography of war crimes of the Nazis extended due to Selidovo town 40 km north-west of Donetsk. Night shot incendiary shells:

As a matter of fact yes it is. They are a super power in decline, and one of their goals is to turn all Europe against Russia, encircle it, and neutralize it as a threat to their interests, by all means... Even MAD by nuclear war...

You misunderstood my meaning. Morality is not an argument in international law. The fact that Russia may have blocked humanitarian aid does not justify Kiev doing likewise. The fact that NATO attacks or invades in violation of international law does not justify Russia doing it. That is the moral equivalency I was referring to.

For a one world order to be installed, the American super-power state must be destroyed or severely crippled. This is explains America today, not only it's foreign policy, but it's domestic policy as well. 17 trillion will never be paid back-period. Dollar will be taken dollar in several stages though.

So massive American military cuts, yes. Unsecured American borders, yes. Corrupted American state to a degree not seen since Caligula, yes.

When you look at events taking place involving America, be they foreign or domestic, and you are trying to make sense of it, step back and ask, "How does this event or action contribute to the destruction of America? How does this weaken America? Why is this happening, does it weaken America?"

Now everything becomes very clear, crystal clear.