what if religion were wrong?

What matters is what the believers think their Holy Book really speaks about. See this thread as an example of out-of-the box thinking. It's another way, but still true, to
see the story the Scriptures are telling us.

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Read it entirely to understand my stance.

So, your question should be:

what if believers didn't understand their religion?

That's why HELL is justified.

That of course is my own opinion based on what I have observed...

I have spent years meditating this very thought. That is basically my final conclusion. I'll stay with it.

You misunderstood me. Paul said that if we don't have this hope in the afterlife let's just eat, drink, let loose and do whatever we want.

what if that were wrong? what if they were not meant to be sent to jail?

what if this entire system was unproductive in their efforts to prevent war, murder, thievery, and all sorts of unproductive actions?

do i agree with our modern day system? would Jesus agree with it?...lol thats a joke by the way

i dont agree...its very unproductive and lacks any compassion for human life.

Yes we all have different definitions for truth.
Yours is with a capital T like a title. Rather than use the normal word you capitalize it like as if its the name of a possession that only the church can hold.

to me it is the actual way things are, were, or will be.
if someone says something and it wasnt the way things actually were,are, or will be, its not truth.

So you can have your Truth. I would take truth over Truth anyday.

Those of you who think Truth is relative....

What about 'Absolute Truth' ? No such thing in your mind?
If there is no Absolute Truth there is chaos. Plain and simple.

There needs to be standard if mankind is to get along and survive. If you disagree, you're nothing but a REBEL.

can we not do anything we want anyway? we can do anything. should we fear death and fear what happens after death?

lets eat and be merry...lets party and have fun. and when we die lets see what happens next? is that a unproductive way of thinking?

im not saying hey lets kill, steal, rape, and war monger.
im not saying lets harm others.
im saying is there fault in being able to enjoy life?
does the fear of punishment "after death"
actually scare humans into correcting behaviors that are harmful?

The Bible is not religion.
Men make religions out of it just as there are religions made from the Wizard of Oz books or Alister Crowley fiction.

This comment was made in a previous post "Look at any organized religion in existence in the world today. (Not spirituality, but religion)". Again, how many times have mass media pushed this phrase..."spiritual, not religious"? It has become a mantra now, which is empty of all meaning. Voodoo priestesses cut the heads off chickens and stick needles in dolls - and call themselves "spiritual". New Agers believe themselves "spiritual" yet follow the writings and beliefs and rituals of men. Men are trying to distance themselves from "religion", yet religion as defined by the preaching pulpit of mass media - Judaism, Islam and Christianity. What's wrong? They have know understanding that they are merely swapping one religion for another religion - new ageism, atheism, Hinduism, Buddhism, freemasonry, Kaballah, spiritism....the ones that the pulpits of mass media coincidentally always define as "non religious, spiritual". Men are swayed in their minds, blinded by these words.

As such, it is men and their beliefs and rituals which are religion. From his theory of evolution to the saying of rosaries and everything in between that is religion. And it is lies. Everything not set on a foundation of truth is a lie. That is religion.

Indeed!
I stay away from "religiosity" so to speak, but I am a very firm believer in GOD, HIS ways, and HIS message!

Your right and religion is not of God, it is of man. Look at all the religions in the world, this god, that god, but there is only one God and His name is Jesus Christ.

There are many religions among those who follow Christ. Many of them having their own books written by man.

There is a huge difference between religion and Christianity. Christianity is not a religion, but reality. It just takes you the individual to open up the scriptures in prayer and read them verse by verse to understand them.

NO. Look at the Italian mafia. They kiss Jesus and do all the religious pandering. Then they kill and break every commandment.

A message from the "few" that someone referred to.

A modern day prophet!

Important in this day and age!

Prophecy is being fulfilled as we speak, and this is an example.

Well said!

your right chaos (as you call it) is the norm.
truth changes from generation to generation.
standards are subjective. they also change from year to year.
disagreeing is normal also.

CALLING SOMEONE A REBEL BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE DIFFERENT IS NOT THE NORM.

respecting others beliefs is the norm.

that's how it starts. if you can label someone a rebel...then you can treat them like such...then next thing you know...your murdering, and punishing the so called rebels. rebels belong in jails, and need to be punished. sinners belong in hell and deserve no mercy. does the pattern sound familiar?

what if you were in a world where you were labeled the rebel for your beliefs?

So you would keep a serial killer out of jail, let him do as he pleases?

the bible is not religion, but what are the people who follow the bible, and convince others to do the same? and also build tall luxurious buildings, and business from the teaching in the bible?

the bible and religion seems to be brother and sister...do they not go hand in hand?

If your role is to be good, you will be good. If your role is to be bad, you will be bad. If everybody would be good, there won't be any drama, right? :)

And what is more productive? To be good? Well from your point of perspective it is true. For others not. This drama we call life is not about being productive and whatnot. It is about drama :) Actors just perform their roles. No role is better or worse than other roles. That's it.

would Jesus let a whoremonger go free? again a joke...lol

i would ask the question why would a human want to kill another human?

the answer to that is the deepest question i could ask.
are people just crazy? just natural born murderers?

again...why do they murder? does the fear of punishment stop them?

correct...if its drama we want then it drama we shall get

but what if one day after countless lives were loss, and countless civilizations were destroyed...we began to become productive? is that not a possibility?

or will we just keep the drams going forever?

People do all sorts of evil because of depravity. They are not truly fulfilled inside their heart.

This is where God comes in. They need to give their hearts to God and God will fulfill them. That's how evil stops.

again...what if Christianity has it wrong?
is Christianity not a religion?
do they not build churches, publish bibles, and buy and sell religious paraphernalia?

Who's 'they' ? Are 'they' doing God's will?
Jesus didn't tell us to build churches. Our bodies are temples of the living God.

why is there men who are unfulfilled?
and why is God so evasive to those unfulfilled men?

why are we here living in poverty and starving...while others live in the lap of luxury?

does God favor some and curse others?

then why have Christians built churches? published bibles? and promoted religious ideas? the they i am referring to are Christians?

Because men refuse to seek God and turn to Him with ALL their hearts.
If you seek God you will find Him.

'They' are mere men. Your focus should be on God and Jesus Christ.

I am writing and thinking. God through me as the body is talking to himself through You as the body. Isn't it amazing :D We God(s) created us to have some sort of drama. What about God's creativity, huh :))

Talking about productivity. What you think is productive? When after the wars people realize that better be good? Well if it happens, so be it. The drama still goes on. Forever and ever :) Not necessarily in form(s) as we believe or think as WE these bodies. Anyways because you are God, you are doing this drama. So no worries :) you are God, but there is no You as you imagine. You is just dreamt. The more I talk the more contradictory I sound :D