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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54665122 United States 02/21/2014 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do they want us to arm up? The bear is not dead, it’s hibernating, along with the dragon. Russia and china knew they weren’t going to win the way they were going. So they dropped their military stance to rebuild their countries to the point they would again be strong enough to attack the US and bring it down. It isn’t an option, it’s a pact set in stone. They have already agreed on the attack, they are just waiting until they think they are in the right position to launch the attack. The US intelligence agency knows it. They knew it from the start but they had to play along to make the opponents think their plan was going to plan. They can’t come out and tell people it. But they are working behind the scenes to make sure populations are provisioned for the attack any way possible. And they are also using any means necessary (Taliban and the like) to take out Russia’s and china’s allies before the attack in launched. They know the list of countries that are part of the pact and are working to undercut them before the fateful day. For a country that has broken down into lawlessness is a far less threat than one that supports an organized front against you. That is why Russia is willing to start the fight if certain countries are threatened by the US because they (Russia and china) know that their attack plans will be crippled if key countries in their pact are taken out before the attack in launched. While at the same time, the US is presenting the appearance of a weak and dieing country. That has two beneficial effects. It makes your allies build up strength to offset your apparent lack of it, and it makes your enemies think the opportunity has arrived to launch the attack. They will launch it now, instead of waiting longer and launching it later when they have built up their military strength even more where we will be even less capable of fighting back. |
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R.P. McMurphy User ID: 17078589 United States 02/21/2014 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More people bought guns than signed up for Obamacare. Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater 34 Times More Gun Background Checks than Obamacare Signups in October [link to www.breitbart.com] ...and with good reason. :ofacism: :jackclapping2: "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31350993 United States 02/21/2014 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LMAO Vizzini: I can't compete with you physically, and you're no match for my brains. Man in Black: All right. Where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right... and who is dead. Vizzini: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool. You would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me. Man in Black: You've made your decision then? Vizzini: Not remotely! Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows! And Australia is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. Man in Black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect. Vizzini: Wait till I get going! Now, where was I? Man in Black: Australia. Vizzini: Yes, Australia. And you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me. Man in Black: You're just stalling now. Vizzini: You'd like to think that, wouldn't you?! You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you! But, you've also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me! Man in Black: You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work. Vizzini: It has worked! You've given everything away! I know where the poison is! Man in Black Then make your choice. Vizzini: I will, and I choose- What in the world can that be? [Vizzini points at a rock behind the Man in Black. When he turns to look, Vizzini swaps the goblets] Man in Black: What? Where? I don't see anything. Vizzini: Well, I- I could have sworn I saw something. No matter. [He is having a hard time containing his laughter]Man in Black: What's so funny?Vizzini: I--I'll tell you in a minute. First, let's drink. Me from my glass, and you from yours. [They drink from their goblets] Man in Black: You guessed wrong. Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha, you fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia," but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line!" [He laughs hysterically, but suddenly freezes mid-laugh and dies; LMFAO I so love that part. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53870343 United States 02/21/2014 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get the feeling to get around 2nd amendment, they are going to focus on ammunition.... making them expensive and scarce... Quoting: AlcoholicAlien Let me just check my cost for ammo as someone who makes their own: .45acp $3.75 per 50 .44 magnum $6.80 per 50 .30 '06 $4.00 per 20 9mm $2.25 per 50 people who bitch about the cost of ammo must not reload or shoot much.... Ummmm..... When is the last time you bought powder??? There are huge waiting lists, you cannot get it anywhere... |
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Gthree777 User ID: 46800932 United States 02/21/2014 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In 2009 Americans bought enough guns in the first 3 months of the year to outfit the entire Chinese and Indian armies combined. Due to unprecedented demand in firearms since the November election, Barack Obama was awarded the “Gun Salesman of the Year” by Outdoor Wire earlier that year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52172085 In 2011 a record number of guns were sold in the United States for Christmas. And, over 1.5 million background checks on customers were requested by gun dealers to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in December. It was the highest number ever in a single month. The record continues… [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com] Is it possible that our government wants Americans to be stocked up with the coming changes? They had to have known what would happen if they try to come after our guns... Or was it a huge blunder? I keep saying it is all a double fake to get people to buy more guns, but is it just for money or something larger? Quoting: centrist77 I keep saying it is all a double fake to get people to buy more guns, but is it just for money or something larger? Quoting: centrist77 I think it is to keep us pitted against each other. Fear your fellow man is the goal. Yeah, so many ways to go with it, what if they knew something bad was coming and they want us armed but cant tell us bc they know it would cause panic. I agree and have been saying this since 08. Consider this too. How many new major gun laws have been passed under the Obama administration? I'll tell you, NONE! Zero, zip nada. Not one new law has been passed. And don't give me the bullshit about how they tried and the republicans stopped it in congress. Or how all the activists posting about it in forums like this or on Facebook put the pressure on them to vote against the proposed bills. Same tards thinking that are the same tards thinking their FB posts about not going to war with Syria actually caused us to not go to war with Syria. And please don't give me the bullshit about how Obama just signed a bunch of Execitive Orders restricting guns. Or how he went around congress with his pen and did it by EO. There were no executive orders. Correction. There have been a few. But not ones that restrict or ban guns. During his first term, he didn't call for nor pass Any new Major gun restriction laws. In fact, he only signed 2 new gun laws, and both actually expand the rights of gun owners. One overturned a law passed by Reagan that required you to lock your guns in the trunk or give box while traveling inside of National Parks. Obamas law allows you to carry in parks. The other law allows passengers to carry guns in luggage when traveling on an Amtrak train. Prior to this, you couldn't, because of a law Bush Jr signed prohibiting it after 9/11. Now, in his second term, he has called for new major laws. Most notably after the Sandy Hook incident. All of which were voted down by Congress. And honestly, IMHO, I don't believe he really believed would pass anyway. Just more fear mongering to get people to buy more guns. Which it did. Last Aug he did sign 2 executive orders. One that limits trusts from being used to obtain firearms by prohibited people. And the second one banning re-importation of old military rifles. Neither of these EO's effect your average law abiding gun owner. Unless you're bummed about getting an old surplus M1 from South Korea. Then in Jan of 2014, he proposed 2 more EO's. One that further expands the background check qualifications for those deemed mentally unfit and the other would provide medical organizations some additional wiggle room to report "limited information necessary to help keep guns out of potentially dangerous hands" to the federal background check system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14648138 United States 02/21/2014 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the stupid "merican's keep buying thinking it will keep them safe from a gov;t with air craft carriers. The elites own the arms companys so the enslavement continues buying a gun from propaganda to protect yourself, that you will never use Sorry the gun thing is so stupid and it keep them in power. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51420349 The High tech big guns and bombs work great when you face another organized army, not so much when you face unorganized guerrillas. US has had all the high tech in Iraq and Afghanistan, abandoned Iraq, still fighting all these years later in A-stan. It's kind of a loosing proposition to fight snipers and IEDs with expensive smart bombs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 50865067 United States 02/21/2014 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the reason for all of this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54665122 Why do they want us to arm up? The bear is not dead, it’s hibernating, along with the dragon. Russia and china knew they weren’t going to win the way they were going. So they dropped their military stance to rebuild their countries to the point they would again be strong enough to attack the US and bring it down. It isn’t an option, it’s a pact set in stone. They have already agreed on the attack, they are just waiting until they think they are in the right position to launch the attack. The US intelligence agency knows it. They knew it from the start but they had to play along to make the opponents think their plan was going to plan. They can’t come out and tell people it. But they are working behind the scenes to make sure populations are provisioned for the attack any way possible. And they are also using any means necessary (Taliban and the like) to take out Russia’s and china’s allies before the attack in launched. They know the list of countries that are part of the pact and are working to undercut them before the fateful day. For a country that has broken down into lawlessness is a far less threat than one that supports an organized front against you. That is why Russia is willing to start the fight if certain countries are threatened by the US because they (Russia and china) know that their attack plans will be crippled if key countries in their pact are taken out before the attack in launched. While at the same time, the US is presenting the appearance of a weak and dieing country. That has two beneficial effects. It makes your allies build up strength to offset your apparent lack of it, and it makes your enemies think the opportunity has arrived to launch the attack. They will launch it now, instead of waiting longer and launching it later when they have built up their military strength even more where we will be even less capable of fighting back. Ummm, no. DHS, Police, US military, etc. will disarm American citizens. You'd have to be pretty goddamed dumb to have come to any other conclusion. It's what you call a "no-brainer." |
Hard Eight User ID: 35278639 United States 02/21/2014 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get the feeling to get around 2nd amendment, they are going to focus on ammunition.... making them expensive and scarce... Quoting: AlcoholicAlien Let me just check my cost for ammo as someone who makes their own: .45acp $3.75 per 50 .44 magnum $6.80 per 50 .30 '06 $4.00 per 20 9mm $2.25 per 50 people who bitch about the cost of ammo must not reload or shoot much.... Ummmm..... When is the last time you bought powder??? There are huge waiting lists, you cannot get it anywhere... I see 8 lbs. tubs of power for $160 in N TX, tons of bullets, primer bricks @ $30 and lots of range brass from all the shootin' going on. Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
Resister User ID: 36421936 United States 02/21/2014 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get the feeling to get around 2nd amendment, they are going to focus on ammunition.... making them expensive and scarce... Quoting: AlcoholicAlien Let me just check my cost for ammo as someone who makes their own: .45acp $3.75 per 50 .44 magnum $6.80 per 50 .30 '06 $4.00 per 20 9mm $2.25 per 50 people who bitch about the cost of ammo must not reload or shoot much.... Ummmm..... When is the last time you bought powder??? There are huge waiting lists, you cannot get it anywhere... I bought a pound of H110 just a couple of weeks ago at the local gun show. There was plenty of other types there. I think I paid about $28. They even had five pound jugs of the stuff. Yes it is less available than it was a couple of years ago, but it is out there. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50865067 United States 02/21/2014 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get the feeling to get around 2nd amendment, they are going to focus on ammunition.... making them expensive and scarce... Quoting: AlcoholicAlien That makes a lot of sense, and in fact appears to indeed be one of their strategies. Where these other dumbass posters get the idea that the government is somehow secretly on our side is just fucking idiotic though. No wonder we're in such dismal shape. |
Hard Eight User ID: 35278639 United States 02/21/2014 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I get the feeling to get around 2nd amendment, they are going to focus on ammunition.... making them expensive and scarce... Quoting: AlcoholicAlien Let me just check my cost for ammo as someone who makes their own: .45acp $3.75 per 50 .44 magnum $6.80 per 50 .30 '06 $4.00 per 20 9mm $2.25 per 50 people who bitch about the cost of ammo must not reload or shoot much.... Ummmm..... When is the last time you bought powder??? There are huge waiting lists, you cannot get it anywhere... I bought a pound of H110 just a couple of weeks ago at the local gun show. There was plenty of other types there. I think I paid about $28. They even had five pound jugs of the stuff. Yes it is less available than it was a couple of years ago, but it is out there. My cost: once-fired brass .05 powder .03 primer .03 lead cast bullet .06 Total .17 / round .12 reusing brass 50rds= $8.50 $170/1000 or $120 with personal brass stash. Most supplies can be sourced locally to avoid sales tax, hazmat shipping and lead is HEAVY. Time spent reloading---priceless! Last Edited by Hard Eight on 02/21/2014 05:48 PM Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
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Hard Eight User ID: 35278639 United States 02/21/2014 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Top 10 handguns in the U.S. The most prolific makes of handguns manufactured in the U.S., based on production statistics provided to ATF. [link to www.washingtontimes.com] Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
Hard Eight User ID: 35278639 United States 02/21/2014 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love gun threads Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
Resister User ID: 36421936 United States 02/21/2014 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Whiskey Brother 48797794 Let me just check my cost for ammo as someone who makes their own: .45acp $3.75 per 50 .44 magnum $6.80 per 50 .30 '06 $4.00 per 20 9mm $2.25 per 50 people who bitch about the cost of ammo must not reload or shoot much.... Ummmm..... When is the last time you bought powder??? There are huge waiting lists, you cannot get it anywhere... I bought a pound of H110 just a couple of weeks ago at the local gun show. There was plenty of other types there. I think I paid about $28. They even had five pound jugs of the stuff. Yes it is less available than it was a couple of years ago, but it is out there. My cost: once-fired brass .05 powder .03 primer .03 lead cast bullet .06 Total .17 / round 50rds= $8.50 $170/1000 or $120 with personal brass stash. Most supplies can be sourced locally to avoid sales tax, hazmat shipping and lead is HEAVY. Time spent reloading---priceless! "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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