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Obama Adminstration Declares Countless Veterans Incompetent So That He Can Take Away Their Guns

 
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Yup anyone who's seen a psychiatrist, been on anti -depressants, anyone diagnosed with bi-polar, ADHD, autism, any psychiatric anomoly. Blamo....your guns will be confiscated. That's why they've broadened the definition of these afflictions. So everyone can have some sort of mental illness.

Watch out too, those "innocent" questions your Doctor asks about your mood. Plus those questionnaires sent to you after a Dr. or hospital visit. They all have odd questions thrown in about how you rate your happiness, mood, life, etc.
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criminals don't go through all the paper work to get armed.. maybe you should all do the same....
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mmmn,arn't there many burglaries going on daily.here they pretend tohelp mentally ill,care in community now!.a few are lucky.2good patients with back up family.its all a lie,mt records are disgusting as I kept quizzing different diagnosis,answers I got.most beds keep closing.they are leaving us to die.

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Yup anyone who's seen a psychiatrist, been on anti -depressants, anyone diagnosed with bi-polar, ADHD, autism, any psychiatric anomoly. Blamo....your guns will be confiscated. That's why they've broadened the definition of these afflictions. So everyone can have some sort of mental illness.

Watch out too, those "innocent" questions your Doctor asks about your mood. Plus those questionnaires sent to you after a Dr. or hospital visit. They all have odd questions thrown in about how you rate your happiness, mood, life, etc.
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Yep, I'm sure psychopaths can diagnose psychopaths
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Yup anyone who's seen a psychiatrist, been on anti -depressants, anyone diagnosed with bi-polar, ADHD, autism, any psychiatric anomoly. Blamo....your guns will be confiscated. That's why they've broadened the definition of these afflictions. So everyone can have some sort of mental illness.

Watch out too, those "innocent" questions your Doctor asks about your mood. Plus those questionnaires sent to you after a Dr. or hospital visit. They all have odd questions thrown in about how you rate your happiness, mood, life, etc.
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Yep, I'm sure psychopaths can diagnose psychopaths
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God you don't know how right you are.my friend forced lsd,and 4x4 sets of ect for postpartum,she was 25 didn't know what her and her CPN husband signed.after first go,she begged drs to stop.nope.
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Well, if the people are unstable and mentally ill, we don't want them to have guns. Stupid bullshit wanting would be mass murderers with guns, and you would claim if they did anything, that it was all staged anyway. Stop this bullshit and think. Yes, many veterans are screwed up and shouldn't have guns.
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You can't be that brainwashed. The agenda is to declare everyone mentally ill. All they have to do is innocuously ask you "Have you ever been depressed?" at your next doctor visit - if you say you were sad when your dog died, bam, no more right to self defense for you! Seriously, that scenario is not that far fetched, they're just practicing on veterans first.
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Exactly!!!! They are never satisfied with "just those people". They see everyone, not in their group, a threat. They never stop at "just those people".

They are law makers, it's their job to make laws, and they are convinced that if they stop, they will not only lose their job and but then,horror of horrors, they will become "you". and have to live by those laws. That's why they keep stripping more and more rights from you. Its not to protect you, it's to protect them.

Name one law they've rescinded, or better yet, name one they haven't made more restrictive.
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Of course they're incompetent. That's how they became vets in the first place
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Of course they're incompetent. That's how they became vets in the first place
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Your moniker is wrong, it should just say coward.
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The VA and other private and public institutions for psychiatric care have come under fire for not reporting people who may present a danger.

The letter shown on here says the VA reports people with PTSD claims getting 100% disability that are unable to manage their own finances. Vets with PTSD and other psychiatric conditions where they show signs of or have been violent are also reported. This is being done in the private sector also. This does not mean ALL people with PTSD are reported.
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Bastards!
Freedom requires breathing room, the Constitution presupposes that there will be some crazies among us so that the rest of us can enjoy freedom. - Judge Andrew Napolitano

A huge shit cloud is coming!
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Of course they're incompetent. That's how they became vets in the first place
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Your moniker is wrong, it should just say coward.
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Yours, dumbass puppet
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Think this will serve as a warning to young people to avoid military service?
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Obama is basically saying that only the incompetent serve in the military
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Or get rid of them to prepare for civil war?
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Seems to me same rationale readily applies for removing the President's guns and stripping him, and his administration of Office. neener2
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All I want is two of these.
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Actually all of these laws are really being enacted by the New World Order Illuminutty bankers, who want to enslave the whole world; especially America. But our guns is what is their #1 concern. So they have to find ways to rid us of them. Like I read this week from very credible sources that Sandy Hook never happened. And the man investigating it is a educational training school safety advisor. So the whole 20 children and 3 adults dying in the supposed Sandy Hook incident was a gigantic hoax to take our guns. And this is their #1 aim!! And breaking our economy is their #2 goal.

However, the Almighty God of Heaven and Earth will bring down His mighty plagues upon them once they have killed and martyred most of His people that would not take their coming mind controlling and zombie making, mark of the beast chip in their forehead or right hand; that is spoken about in Revelation 13 and 14 chapters, of the Holy Bible. And after these plagues, then Armageddon, and after Armageddon, Judgment Day, where their agonies and fire and brimstone will have them all yelling and screaming, with fires coming out of their mouths and tongues and lungs, for eons and eons and eons!!

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actually i don't blame Barry for this one. those vets have an entirely different view for weapons and killing than average gun range joe. if they have shown any instability I'd feel a lot safer if their guns are taken away
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Then get on your knees and kiss barrys arse,you liberal nutjob!
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Actually all of these laws are really being enacted by the New World Order Illuminutty bankers, who want to enslave the whole world; especially America. But our guns is what is their #1 concern. So they have to find ways to rid us of them. Like I read this week from very credible sources that Sandy Hook never happened. And the man investigating it is a educational training school safety advisor. So the whole 20 children and 3 adults dying in the supposed Sandy Hook incident was a gigantic hoax to take our guns. And this is their #1 aim!! And breaking our economy is their #2 goal.

However, the Almighty God of Heaven and Earth will bring down His mighty plagues upon them once they have killed and martyred most of His people that would not take their coming mind controlling and zombie making, mark of the beast chip in their forehead or right hand; that is spoken about in Revelation 13 and 14 chapters, of the Holy Bible. And after these plagues, then Armageddon, and after Armageddon, Judgment Day, where their agonies and fire and brimstone will have them all yelling and screaming, with fires coming out of their mouths and tongues and lungs, for eons and eons and eons!!
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You just have to let go of Sandy Hook blather, I know a family who lost their grandchild .
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You just have to let go of Sandy Hook blather, I know a family who lost their grandchild .
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And the kid might be alive today if guns were allowed in school - you know, like where 0bama's kids go to school.

0bama's kids get guns, our kids get gun-free zones.
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You just have to let go of Sandy Hook blather, I know a family who lost their grandchild .
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And the kid might be alive today if guns were allowed in school - you know, like where 0bama's kids go to school.

0bama's kids get guns, our kids get gun-free zones.
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He said it never happened.
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just think about it, where do they find all these 'police' to enforce these laws? and 'judges'

They are coming from police academies...or gay bars?

law schools are gay bars.

Black police don't give a damn, either, they would fire on white people for any reason.
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Starting last year, Veterans started receiving letters declaring their incompetence and demanding they hand over their guns. As the trend increasingly subjects additional veterans to the same treatment, Veterans are fighting back.
So far, Obama’s gun grabbing agenda has created victims out of over 129,000 veterans

the form is at link...


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Do you think it has to do with the hundreds of thousands of active military and vets claiming PTSD? I read that 30% of vets claim PTSD.

Those who are active duty are voluntarily discharged and put on disability for life, given guide dogs, etc. Your taxes pay for their "disability" for a lifetime starting when they're in their 20's and 30's.

How do you prove that these men and women do not have PTSD? They claim nightmares, tension, depression, rages, violence, etc. And I read that many of them never saw combat. I am wondering if this is a way to discourage the claims of PTSD. Then again, it's a very good reason to take the guns away from them if they are indeed violent!

Just my 2 cents.

P.S. I DO believe that people have the right to own guns...I wish I had one, but never got around to it.


"The threshold has been lowered; the question is how many people will take advantage of that," said Dr. Dan Blazer, a Duke University psychiatrist who has worked with the military on PTSD issues. PTSD, he says, is "among the easiest (psychiatric) conditions to feign."
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Starting last year, Veterans started receiving letters declaring their incompetence and demanding they hand over their guns. As the trend increasingly subjects additional veterans to the same treatment, Veterans are fighting back.
So far, Obama’s gun grabbing agenda has created victims out of over 129,000 veterans

the form is at link...


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criminals don't go through all the paper work to get armed.. maybe you should all do the same....
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What this administration is going to do is create a situation where people that need mental help, will not go because of fear of these types of things. They have created the worst situation possible and they are criminal by every measure of a yard stick.

And who is going to take them from the Vet??? I'd say they have a plan and they are turning this country into Nazi Germany or Stalin Russia...

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 Quoting: Question EVERYTHING


I realize I'm quoting myself but there have been these people on here that keep asking how they are going to disarm the vets that they have declared too dangerous to have weapons...

I say that there is a plan with the DHS who has been preparing and have been buying supplies to wage a war on anyone the see fit. Remember when this article came out how people freaked out over it...

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Scouts Train to Fight Terrorists, and More

IMPERIAL, Calif. — Ten minutes into arrant mayhem in this town near the Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran, has already taken out two people, one slumped in his desk, the other covered in blood on the floor.

The responding officers — eight teenage boys and girls, the youngest 14 — face tripwire, a thin cloud of poisonous gas and loud shots — BAM! BAM! — fired from behind a flimsy wall. They move quickly, pellet guns drawn and masks affixed.

“United States Border Patrol! Put your hands up!” screams one in a voice cracking with adolescent determination as the suspect is subdued.

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DHS training with practice targets featuring children, pregnant woman?

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DALLAS, February 28, 2013 — Minnesota-based Law Enforcement Targets, Inc (LET) has been awarded $5.5 million in contracts with the federal government, including $2 million with the Department of Homeland Security.
In light of this fact, it’s no wonder that the American people were outraged last week when it was uncovered that the firm had released a series of gun practice targets featuring a pregnant woman, a child, a young mother and grandparents.


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Of course they're incompetent. That's how they became vets in the first place
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Your moniker is wrong, it should just say coward.
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so what have you witnessed in life on front line? nothing would affect a perfect mind could it.
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Starting last year, Veterans started receiving letters declaring their incompetence and demanding they hand over their guns. As the trend increasingly subjects additional veterans to the same treatment, Veterans are fighting back.
So far, Obama’s gun grabbing agenda has created victims out of over 129,000 veterans

the form is at link...


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Yup anyone who's seen a psychiatrist, been on anti -depressants, anyone diagnosed with bi-polar, ADHD, autism, any psychiatric anomoly. Blamo....your guns will be confiscated. That's why they've broadened the definition of these afflictions. So everyone can have some sort of mental illness.

Watch out too, those "innocent" questions your Doctor asks about your mood. Plus those questionnaires sent to you after a Dr. or hospital visit. They all have odd questions thrown in about how you rate your happiness, mood, life, etc.
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What will happen next?
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Do you think it has to do with the hundreds of thousands of active military and vets claiming PTSD? I read that 30% of vets claim PTSD.

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How many individuals who have severe PTSD are choosing law enforcement-we don't really know:


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Although screening tools, such as the Clinician Administered PTSD Scale (CAPS), exist to evaluate levels of PTSD severity, no law enforcement agencies reported using one. Few employers provided information as to whether PTSD-specific evaluations were given, and in no instance were thresholds for disqualification disclosed. Additionally, two agencies of those who responded or provide freely accessible information online said they had written policies regarding mental health evaluations; only the California Department of Forestry makes its written policies publicly available. In most cases, the psychological assessment component of the hiring procedure is contracted out, and specific evaluation criteria were unknown by the agencies themselves.
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criminals don't go through all the paper work to get armed.. maybe you should all do the same....
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Slowly but surely we're all being turned into criminals. Police state USSA.
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Starting last year, Veterans started receiving letters declaring their incompetence and demanding they hand over their guns. As the trend increasingly subjects additional veterans to the same treatment, Veterans are fighting back.
So far, Obama’s gun grabbing agenda has created victims out of over 129,000 veterans

the form is at link...


[link to www.mrconservative.com]
 Quoting: Gonviral


Yup anyone who's seen a psychiatrist, been on anti -depressants, anyone diagnosed with bi-polar, ADHD, autism, any psychiatric anomoly. Blamo....your guns will be confiscated. That's why they've broadened the definition of these afflictions. So everyone can have some sort of mental illness.

Watch out too, those "innocent" questions your Doctor asks about your mood. Plus those questionnaires sent to you after a Dr. or hospital visit. They all have odd questions thrown in about how you rate your happiness, mood, life, etc.
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I'm a completely stable veteran and gun owner.

If the VA wants to decide my mental health I will surely give it to them!!

They have no constitutional authority to decide what is best for me. Just like any unconstitutional law that it is my duty to not obey.

Don't live in fear, be prepared.
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I use to goto VA years ago and the treatment was SHIT!!!

Most of their doctors and staff are not qualified enough to give a shot more or less determine mental incompetence.

To all veteran brother and sisters, do not let the Government tell you what is right or wrong for you.

We've done the time and put up with the shit already!
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