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Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?

 
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Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
"Why have the nations been in tumult
And the national groups themselves kept muttering an empty thing?
 2 The kings of earth take their stand
And high officials themselves have massed together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one,
 3 [Saying:] “Let us tear their bands apart
And cast their cords away from us!”
 4 The very One sitting in the heavens will laugh;
Jehovah himself will hold them in derision.
 5 At that time he will speak to them in his anger
And in his hot displeasure he will disturb them,
 6 [Saying:] “I, even I, have installed my king
Upon Zion, my holy mountain.”
 7 Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah;
He has said to me: “You are my son;
I, today, I have become your father.
 8 Ask of me, that I may give nations as your inheritance
And the ends of the earth as your own possession.
 9 You will break them with an iron scepter,
As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.”
10 And now, O kings, exercise insight;
Let yourselves be corrected, O judges of the earth.
11 Serve Jehovah with fear
And be joyful with trembling.
12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed
And YOU may not perish [from] the way,
For his anger flares up easily.
Happy are all those taking refuge in him." Ps2:1
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Wrong beliefs

lead to wrong doing leading to suffering.
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
My wife has been a Jehovah Witness for over 10 years now..... and yes she has been baptized. That woman is the most angry, hateful, rude, mean, bigmouth, hypocrite, unloving, unkind, loudest, non humble person i've ever meet in my life. What is it they teach you guys there ? because it sure aint love. She leaves to meetings screaming and yelling. and she comes home the same way. I would NEVER be apart of her stupid religion(although the brothers try).... DONT JUST WALK AWAY FROM THEM...... BUT RUN !!!!
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My wife has been a Jehovah Witness for over 10 years now..... and yes she has been baptized. That woman is the most angry, hateful, rude, mean, bigmouth, hypocrite, unloving, unkind, loudest, non humble person i've ever meet in my life. What is it they teach you guys there ? because it sure aint love. She leaves to meetings screaming and yelling. and she comes home the same way. I would NEVER be apart of her stupid religion(although the brothers try).... DONT JUST WALK AWAY FROM THEM...... BUT RUN !!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39639026


HATEFUL on steroids is the best way to describe her
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Man is incapable!
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Man is incapable!
 Quoting: anonymous 49447489


yet he can together enough to land on the moon, strange isn't it?
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Wrong beliefs

lead to wrong doing leading to suffering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315

Isn't this the track record of politics and religion;
"All this I have seen, and there was an applying of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury.' Ecc8:9
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Wrong beliefs

lead to wrong doing leading to suffering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315

Isn't this the track record of politics and religion;
"All this I have seen, and there was an applying of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury.' Ecc8:9
 Quoting: DGN




"3 Do not put YOUR trust in nobles,
Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
 4 His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground;
In that day his thoughts do perish."- Psalms 146:3,4
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Wrong beliefs

lead to wrong doing leading to suffering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315

Isn't this the track record of politics and religion;
"All this I have seen, and there was an applying of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury.' Ecc8:9
 Quoting: DGN




"3 Do not put YOUR trust in nobles,
Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
 4 His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground;
In that day his thoughts do perish."- Psalms 146:3,4
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


They can't even save them selves yet people hope they will save the world from self destruction. Politicians promise peace and security, clergy promise salvation but, only if we put our faith in their leadership, which is what got the world in the desperate situation it is now in.
"Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.” Lk21;25
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
RELIGION - RE LEGION

THE MANY FALSE SECTS OF THE SUN GOD OF WHICH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS EPITOMIZED IN MODERN TIMES



Re, also spelled Ra, or Pra, in ancient Egyptian religion, god of the sun and creator god.


"1 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.

2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,

3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:

4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.

6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.

9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many
Mark
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Wrong beliefs

lead to wrong doing leading to suffering.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48448315

Isn't this the track record of politics and religion;
"All this I have seen, and there was an applying of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury.' Ecc8:9
 Quoting: DGN




"3 Do not put YOUR trust in nobles,
Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.
 4 His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground;
In that day his thoughts do perish."- Psalms 146:3,4
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


They can't even save them selves yet people hope they will save the world from self destruction. Politicians promise peace and security, clergy promise salvation but, only if we put our faith in their leadership, which is what got the world in the desperate situation it is now in.
"Also, there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth anguish of nations, not knowing the way out because of the roaring of the sea and [its] agitation, 26 while men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 But as these things start to occur, raise yourselves erect and lift YOUR heads up, because YOUR deliverance is getting near.” Lk21;25
 Quoting: DGN



Well, here is how God views these "mighty" nations
:
"Look! The nations are as a drop from a bucket; and as the film of dust on the scales they have been accounted. Look! He lifts the islands themselves as mere fine [dust]."- Isaiah 40:15
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
The bible is a big book, you could find a verse in the bible to support any of your beliefs or views.
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
The bible is a big book, you could find a verse in the bible to support any of your beliefs or views.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6933561


This is one of my favorites;
"And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.” 27 And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. 28 Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.” Ge1:26
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Absolutely not.

The only way we will survive as a species is to completely do away with archaic and baseless religious beliefs and political systems created and intended to divide.

Religion is a cancer on this earth, and politics are like AIDS, infiltrating even the seemingly healthy sectors of humanity.

This system has to stop or we're going the way of the dinos.
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
The statist religion, is responcible for all wars and genocides.
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Absolutely not.

The only way we will survive as a species is to completely do away with archaic and baseless religious beliefs and political systems created and intended to divide.

Religion is a cancer on this earth, and politics are like AIDS, infiltrating even the seemingly healthy sectors of humanity.

This system has to stop or we're going the way of the dinos.
 Quoting: Em18966


Yes only difference is this time around it would be self inflicted causing total extinction;

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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Never!

There will never be peace on Earth until there is peace in man's soul!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
Never!

There will never be peace on Earth until there is peace in man's soul!
 Quoting: Ozicell


Especially in a 'follow the wrong leader' world lead by these;

"Finally, go on acquiring power in [the] Lord and in the mightiness of his strength. 11 Put on the complete suit of armor from God that YOU may be able to stand firm against the machinations of the Devil; 12 because we have a wrestling, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places. 13 On this account take up the complete suit of armor from God, that YOU may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after YOU have done all things thoroughly, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm, therefore, with YOUR loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and with YOUR feet shod with the equipment of the good news of peace. 16 Above all things, take up the large shield of faith, with which YOU will be able to quench all the wicked one’s burning missiles. 17 Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word, 18 while with every form of prayer and supplication YOU carry on prayer on every occasion in spirit. And to that end keep awake with all constancy and with supplication in behalf of all the holy ones...' Eph6:10
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
The problem with man is not politics or religion. The simple answer is that man, in all of his self-conceit has not advanced any farther than that man that hid scared and tired in caves. We just have better tools now.

Man will never accept an outsider to run their lives, and as long as they will not, man will never advance. But it isn't just allowing an outsider to rule them, but to allow outside thought to enter into their personal space and realm, while keeping their traditions holy. Nothing will force conflict more then to tell someone that they are unworthy of respect because they do not hold the same values.
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
The problem with man is not politics or religion. The simple answer is that man, in all of his self-conceit has not advanced any farther than that man that hid scared and tired in caves. We just have better tools now.

Man will never accept an outsider to run their lives, and as long as they will not, man will never advance. But it isn't just allowing an outsider to rule them, but to allow outside thought to enter into their personal space and realm, while keeping their traditions holy. Nothing will force conflict more then to tell someone that they are unworthy of respect because they do not hold the same values.
 Quoting: 071676


Yes, that explains man's failure to achieve global Eden, and ruining the earth instead, even though being a button push away from inflicting total extinction. He will not accept the 1,000 year reign of Christ, no matter what the consequences, even while more 'nuclear deterants' are being built in the name of fair play and balance of power.
"I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, 18 that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”
19 And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army. 20 And the wild beast was caught, and along with it the false prophet that performed in front of it the signs with which he misled those who received the mark of the wild beast and those who render worship to its image. While still alive, they both were hurled into the fiery lake that burns with sulphur. 21 But the rest were killed off with the long sword of the one seated on the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth. And all the birds were filled from the fleshy parts of them." Rv17;19
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Re: Can there ever be peace in a world run by politics and religion?
The bible is a big book, you could find a verse in the bible to support any of your beliefs or views.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6933561


People do that with or without the Bible,.......





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