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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20861362  Philippines02/25/2014 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The three women who survived their decade-long captivity in Ariel Castro's Cleveland House of Horrors shared a stage together in public for the first time on Monday night. Quoting: Ms. Superduper Amanda Berry, 27, Gina DeJesus, 24, and Michelle Knight, 33, were honored by Ohio Governor John Kasich at his annual courage awards - where they received a two-minute standing ovation. Kasich called the women's story one of hurt beyond imagination, but also a story that didn't end there. 'It is also a story of three women who found an inner strength and a courage that brought them through and sustained them,' Kasich said near the end of his annual State of the State speech. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook there is a weird 3 6 9 thing with their ages more here than meets the eye |
| Dhale76 User ID: 37876894  Mexico02/25/2014 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the 911 call they played didn't sound convincing to me. the more I get into conspiracy theories the more i pay attention to the news. You can see a big difference in the way they cover stories and tell the news when its a cover up or lie or just "brainwashing" us. got truth? |
| Ms. Superduper (OP) User ID: 46155084 United States02/25/2014 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly for those who have suffered such as these people and they get some positive recognition and mostly what I view on here is a bunch of sad cynics. Quoting: Mickeyblue 9806228 This is a discussion thread for all and you can certainly voice your opinion here, considering. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
| Dhale76 User ID: 37876894 Mexico02/25/2014 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | got truth? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36597376 United States02/25/2014 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess I meant, what are your suppositions thus far? my gut tells me that you don't buy the story. Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up. When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years. I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long. Now take a look with crisis actor in mind. I am one for a good conspiracy but I think you are looking too deep on this one. For instance in terms of photos alone, you can tell the one on the far right is extremely traumatized, possibly both mentally and physically underdeveloped. Even with all the makeup etc. Same with who I believe Amanda Berry is. The one in the middle looks to be in the best shape and makes 100% sense since she is the same race as he captor, hispanic. (It is well noted that captors take the "best" care of victims of the same race). Lastly, Stockholm Syndrome is obvious in this case since in a stable state of mind the 3 women could have easily overpowered him and escaped. The sheer fact she only called 911 and thought to get help when he left the area also indicates a deep seated psychological trauma. That would have indeed been inundated within someone after years of abuse. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20861362 Philippines02/25/2014 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess I meant, what are your suppositions thus far? my gut tells me that you don't buy the story. Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up. When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years. I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long. Now take a look with crisis actor in mind. I am one for a good conspiracy but I think you are looking too deep on this one. For instance in terms of photos alone, you can tell the one on the far right is extremely traumatized, possibly both mentally and physically underdeveloped. Even with all the makeup etc. Same with who I believe Amanda Berry is. The one in the middle looks to be in the best shape and makes 100% sense since she is the same race as he captor, hispanic. (It is well noted that captors take the "best" care of victims of the same race). Lastly, Stockholm Syndrome is obvious in this case since in a stable state of mind the 3 women could have easily overpowered him and escaped. The sheer fact she only called 911 and thought to get help when he left the area also indicates a deep seated psychological trauma. That would have indeed been inundated within someone after years of abuse. by the stats Stockholm Syndrome only happens in 1 of 3 cases |
| davvi User ID: 3677166 United States02/25/2014 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly for those who have suffered such as these people and they get some positive recognition and mostly what I view on here is a bunch of sad cynics. Quoting: Mickeyblue 9806228 I don't think anyone is wishing anything bad for these women, it's just that from the time the story broke there were just things that made me raise an eyebrow... Some things didn't make sense. For instance was mail delivered every day? They were in the back yard taking exercise and never saw anyone to scream for help? Even three women could take a on a man and create enough of a scene to attract attention...just things... |
| Purgatory User ID: 37507857  Canada02/25/2014 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check out the photographs of the ladies and others. Even shortly after they were released after 'years', they were 'study material' to me. Quoting: Ms. Superduper speaking of study...notice both Amanda and Gina have brow piercings...did they get those after they came out? Did they have them since they were kids? (i think not on that one)...something does seem odd about that. Plus how they were 14, 16 and 21 at the time of kidnapping...How the hell would that old man be capable of overpowering the 21 year old? There seem to be some holes. They got the brow piercings to celebrate? To bring them up to style? Too bad, since that stuff is already 'old' isn't it? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14965262 United States02/25/2014 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The other thing I can think of is that something else was going on at that time. Anyone remember what it was? It was big and I remember wondering - hmmm, this is an excellent distraction. Anyone remember the big event at the time? Was it Benghazi? I found this Benghazi hearing on May 9, 2013: [link to oversight.house.gov] The 'release' of these imprisoned women was on May 6, 2013, and all of the hoopla that followed, such as the very attention-getting black man who was seen all around MSM with his interviews, etc. So it looks like both of those events did overlap. They were desperate to cover Benghazi, even with that stupid video they tried to use in the beginning to try to cover Benghazi with. [link to en.wikipedia.org] What was going on in the news you asked - Look at the wiki link - May 2013 May 2013 - the dates May 3, 4, 5 and 6 - specifically the 4the and 5th of May 2013 Under "armed conflict" and "Syria" - Israel May 3 Syrian civil war: Israeli warplanes bomb a Syrian weapons facility in an overnight attack. (The New York Times) May 4 Israeli forces, in a second attack in as many days, bomb a weapons shipment of sophisticated missiles suspected as being transported from Syria to Hezbollah in Lebanon. (The Washington Post) Activists claim that 77 people are massacred in the Syrian city of Baniyas by government forces; the government claims it was fighting against "terrorist groups." (BBC) May 5 Israeli aircraft hit at least six targets near Damascus, targeting Iranian-made Fateh-110 missile shipments en route to Hezbollah. (BBC) (The Times of Israel) Syria's foreign ministry accuses Israel of helping and working with the Syrian rebels to coordinate airstrikes (Xinhua) (ABC) (The New York Times) May 6 Rebels shoot down a Syrian Military helicopter in Deir ez-Zor Governorate killing all eight soldiers on board. (AP via Anchorage Daily News) A UN official on a Swiss television station says the UN has "concrete" suspicions that the rebels have used Sarin gas. The UN later released a statement in response stressing that it has not reached any official conclusions, and has yet to have acquired proof that either side used chemical weapons. (The New York Times),(BBC) |
| Ms. Superduper (OP) User ID: 46155084 United States02/25/2014 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh snap! No souvenirs or memorabilia left at the house: [link to www.nbcnews.com] Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 54845199 United States02/25/2014 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know about any conspiracy. But I did notice that the house had two small flags next to each other on the front porch. One flag was American and the other was Puerto Rican. The next photos I saw only had the American. Somebody took the Puerto Rican flag down. So Puerto Rican pride is OK, because supposedly, somebody was ashamed. Tells you about the true allegiance of people. |
| Ms. Superduper (OP) User ID: 46155084 United States02/25/2014 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Ms. Superduper The other thing I can think of is that something else was going on at that time. Anyone remember what it was? It was big and I remember wondering - hmmm, this is an excellent distraction. Anyone remember the big event at the time? Was it Benghazi? I found this Benghazi hearing on May 9, 2013: [link to oversight.house.gov] The 'release' of these imprisoned women was on May 6, 2013, and all of the hoopla that followed, such as the very attention-getting black man who was seen all around MSM with his interviews, etc. So it looks like both of those events did overlap. They were desperate to cover Benghazi, even with that stupid video they tried to use in the beginning to try to cover Benghazi with. [link to en.wikipedia.org] What was going on in the news you asked - Look at the wiki link - May 2013 May 2013 - the dates May 3, 4, 5 and 6 - specifically the 4the and 5th of May 2013 Under "armed conflict" and "Syria" - Israel May 3 Syrian civil war: Israeli warplanes bomb a Syrian weapons facility in an overnight attack. (The New York Times) May 4 Israeli forces, in a second attack in as many days, bomb a weapons shipment of sophisticated missiles suspected as being transported from Syria to Hezbollah in Lebanon. (The Washington Post) Activists claim that 77 people are massacred in the Syrian city of Baniyas by government forces; the government claims it was fighting against "terrorist groups." (BBC) May 5 Israeli aircraft hit at least six targets near Damascus, targeting Iranian-made Fateh-110 missile shipments en route to Hezbollah. (BBC) (The Times of Israel) Syria's foreign ministry accuses Israel of helping and working with the Syrian rebels to coordinate airstrikes (Xinhua) (ABC) (The New York Times) May 6 Rebels shoot down a Syrian Military helicopter in Deir ez-Zor Governorate killing all eight soldiers on board. (AP via Anchorage Daily News) A UN official on a Swiss television station says the UN has "concrete" suspicions that the rebels have used Sarin gas. The UN later released a statement in response stressing that it has not reached any official conclusions, and has yet to have acquired proof that either side used chemical weapons. (The New York Times),(BBC) All interesting coverage. Benghazi was the thing they were desperate to cover up and distract from I think. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36597376 United States02/25/2014 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Otsana I guess I meant, what are your suppositions thus far? my gut tells me that you don't buy the story. Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up. When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years. I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long. Now take a look with crisis actor in mind. I am one for a good conspiracy but I think you are looking too deep on this one. For instance in terms of photos alone, you can tell the one on the far right is extremely traumatized, possibly both mentally and physically underdeveloped. Even with all the makeup etc. Same with who I believe Amanda Berry is. The one in the middle looks to be in the best shape and makes 100% sense since she is the same race as he captor, hispanic. (It is well noted that captors take the "best" care of victims of the same race). Lastly, Stockholm Syndrome is obvious in this case since in a stable state of mind the 3 women could have easily overpowered him and escaped. The sheer fact she only called 911 and thought to get help when he left the area also indicates a deep seated psychological trauma. That would have indeed been inundated within someone after years of abuse. by the stats Stockholm Syndrome only happens in 1 of 3 cases Yes with individual victims, when multiple victims are found the stats skyrocket. They feed off each other and the 1 of 3 can infect the minds of the other 2. |
| Ms. Superduper (OP) User ID: 46155084 United States02/25/2014 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Ms. Superduper I found this Benghazi hearing on May 9, 2013: [link to oversight.house.gov] The 'release' of these imprisoned women was on May 6, 2013, and all of the hoopla that followed, such as the very attention-getting black man who was seen all around MSM with his interviews, etc. So it looks like both of those events did overlap. They were desperate to cover Benghazi, even with that stupid video they tried to use in the beginning to try to cover Benghazi with. [link to en.wikipedia.org] What was going on in the news you asked - Look at the wiki link - May 2013 May 2013 - the dates May 3, 4, 5 and 6 - specifically the 4the and 5th of May 2013 Under "armed conflict" and "Syria" - Israel May 3 Syrian civil war: Israeli warplanes bomb a Syrian weapons facility in an overnight attack. (The New York Times) May 4 Israeli forces, in a second attack in as many days, bomb a weapons shipment of sophisticated missiles suspected as being transported from Syria to Hezbollah in Lebanon. (The Washington Post) Activists claim that 77 people are massacred in the Syrian city of Baniyas by government forces; the government claims it was fighting against "terrorist groups." (BBC) May 5 Israeli aircraft hit at least six targets near Damascus, targeting Iranian-made Fateh-110 missile shipments en route to Hezbollah. (BBC) (The Times of Israel) Syria's foreign ministry accuses Israel of helping and working with the Syrian rebels to coordinate airstrikes (Xinhua) (ABC) (The New York Times) May 6 Rebels shoot down a Syrian Military helicopter in Deir ez-Zor Governorate killing all eight soldiers on board. (AP via Anchorage Daily News) A UN official on a Swiss television station says the UN has "concrete" suspicions that the rebels have used Sarin gas. The UN later released a statement in response stressing that it has not reached any official conclusions, and has yet to have acquired proof that either side used chemical weapons. (The New York Times),(BBC) All interesting coverage. Benghazi was the thing they were desperate to cover up and distract from I think. I mean, really, look at what they first tried to use. Some fairy tale story in a video on you tube. Pitiful and almost offensive to the population's intelligence. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20861362 Philippines02/25/2014 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Ms. Superduper Yes. You are correct. I feel almost a little bad about bringing it up. When they were first shown or interviewed, it seemed odd to me that they were in such good shape physically, and seemingly mentally, for having been abused and locked up for years. I mean it wasn't a few days they were locked up. It was supposed to be years. There would have been for anyone a lot of trauma associated with that treatment for so long. Now take a look with crisis actor in mind. I am one for a good conspiracy but I think you are looking too deep on this one. For instance in terms of photos alone, you can tell the one on the far right is extremely traumatized, possibly both mentally and physically underdeveloped. Even with all the makeup etc. Same with who I believe Amanda Berry is. The one in the middle looks to be in the best shape and makes 100% sense since she is the same race as he captor, hispanic. (It is well noted that captors take the "best" care of victims of the same race). Lastly, Stockholm Syndrome is obvious in this case since in a stable state of mind the 3 women could have easily overpowered him and escaped. The sheer fact she only called 911 and thought to get help when he left the area also indicates a deep seated psychological trauma. That would have indeed been inundated within someone after years of abuse. by the stats Stockholm Syndrome only happens in 1 of 3 cases Yes with individual victims, when multiple victims are found the stats skyrocket. They feed off each other and the 1 of 3 can infect the minds of the other 2. link |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36597376 United States02/25/2014 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36597376 I am one for a good conspiracy but I think you are looking too deep on this one. For instance in terms of photos alone, you can tell the one on the far right is extremely traumatized, possibly both mentally and physically underdeveloped. Even with all the makeup etc. Same with who I believe Amanda Berry is. The one in the middle looks to be in the best shape and makes 100% sense since she is the same race as he captor, hispanic. (It is well noted that captors take the "best" care of victims of the same race). Lastly, Stockholm Syndrome is obvious in this case since in a stable state of mind the 3 women could have easily overpowered him and escaped. The sheer fact she only called 911 and thought to get help when he left the area also indicates a deep seated psychological trauma. That would have indeed been inundated within someone after years of abuse. by the stats Stockholm Syndrome only happens in 1 of 3 cases Yes with individual victims, when multiple victims are found the stats skyrocket. They feed off each other and the 1 of 3 can infect the minds of the other 2. link Years of on the field case studies, the link can only be found within your own brain of actual knowledge applied. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20861362 Philippines02/25/2014 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20861362 Philippines02/25/2014 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes with individual victims, when multiple victims are found the stats skyrocket. They feed off each other and the 1 of 3 can infect the minds of the other 2. link Years of on the field case studies, the link can only be found within your own brain of actual knowledge applied. so anecdotal evidence which is always falsifiable |
| Murph User ID: 54552912 United States02/25/2014 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Ms. Superduper (OP) User ID: 46155084 United States02/25/2014 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to images.search.yahoo.com (secure)] See anyone here that could be Castro? Hint: line 12 Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 54311206 United States02/25/2014 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did they release any images of the inside of the hous or where the girls were held? Is it possible these girls were "Cathy o'brien" govt mind control victims for the past ten years? They wouldn't need crisis actors if they mind controlled them. |
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| Mickeyblue User ID: 9806228 United States02/25/2014 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ariel is Hebrew and means Lion of Israel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20861362 during the same timeframe Jodi Arias was in the news. Jodi means of Judea and Arias means the same thing as Ariel Jody for a man is the nickname of Joseph (Hebrew) which means Jehovah increase, it doesn't mean Judea. Jodi the girl's name is derived from English. |
| marsnukesite User ID: 33299257 United States02/25/2014 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the guy was a paid hunter for the child sex slave trade. these three he kept for himself. when he got caught, his employer had him offed to keep him from telling. the girls should watch their backs, god help them. the king has no clothes...and really small pecker too. |
| Ms. Superduper (OP) User ID: 46155084 United States02/25/2014 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 20861362 Philippines02/25/2014 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ariel is Hebrew and means Lion of Israel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20861362 during the same timeframe Jodi Arias was in the news. Jodi means of Judea and Arias means the same thing as Ariel Jody for a man is the nickname of Joseph (Hebrew) which means Jehovah increase, it doesn't mean Judea. Jodi the girl's name is derived from English. incorrect Jodi is the English variant of the Hebrew Judith meaning "woman of Judea." |
