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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30490257 Canada 02/25/2014 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | However , I think you have to accept the fact that T5 will suck, straight up.Just like every other remake/sequel in the last 25 years, with the exception of rambo of course.Rocky 26 or the last rocky film wasnt bad either. They just don't make em like they used too! |
Ben Marco User ID: 8911449 United Kingdom 02/25/2014 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude I'm not trying piss u off but live in the now. They don't make good movies in the vein of terminator or even close, T2 hasn't been topped in terms of action or effects in 23 years. Films are poo now I can count on one hand probably the really good, you know the proper decent ones that have come out in the past few years. 2013 was the worst year ever none of the big films that looked good were much cop at all. best thing they can do is leave stuff like that alone and fuck up some marvel bollocks or general wank like wwz or elysium or any of the other crap hollywood churns out. Remember with 500 film's a year it's all about quantity, not quality " I don't invite this shit, it just comes to me", Carlito Brigantte |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27996551 United States 02/25/2014 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay but I just prefer the classics and all these reboots and shit are pants like crystal skull. Also James Cameron pretty much wrapped it in two films, probably cos he knew third film is usually a re hash of the second or just poo like the dark knight rises or bourne ultimatum or Godfather three. The terminator is a dead franchise just sit back and put one of the first two on and think " gosh weren't films ace back then". Arnold is past his sell by date as sad as that is so is most of the decent stars. Quoting: Ben Marco I agree, but it's only dead because some clowns came and sucked the marrow out of its bones. These guys making T5 have a CHANCE to redeem themselves. I'm not writing them off just yet - even though they didn't bring the other original cast members back. They at least got Arnie back (which is a good start). But I am fed RIGHT UP TO HERE ^ with the franchise, and they better get it right,or I for one am going to go postal (textually) all over the Internet. Then I am going to abandon any chance of seeing another good Terminator movie and start writing my own script. Sophia Stewart claims that the Terminator story and the Matrix story are the same story. I can see that when you watch the Animatrix it's easy to see. The Terminator films could be merged with the Matrix story where the robots overtake the humans and then grow humans for energy in cocoons and then create the matrix for them to live in. See how it fits together? What do you think about all that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54849919 United States 02/25/2014 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The plot of Terminator 5. An aging Arnold Terminator and several newer, smaller terminators are sent back in time by a teenage John Connor to the 1800's to stop the industrial revolution, thus preventing technology from ever existing. However, something goes wrong and they end up in Roswell New Mexico 1947. Only Arnie survives, the others are found by the government and taken to a secret base where their technology is studied and ultimately reversed engineered, eventually leading to Skynet in the future. Arnie hides himself in a cave for 100 years until he can awaken in the future and tell John Connor what happened. Connor decides Arnie must time travel again, this time to destroy the previous time travel crew (including Arnie) so that they cannot be found and reverse engineered. They succeed, but are then hit by a crashing UFO. Their remains are found by the government and Skynet is created anyway. Along the way, the audience learns what it is to be human. Movie Gold, right there. |
AgencyLeonard (OP) User ID: 53970990 Australia 02/25/2014 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I understand what you mean, I also in the theatre, my favourite movie for a long time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30490257 However , I think you have to accept the fact that T5 will suck, straight up.Just like every other remake/sequel in the last 25 years, with the exception of rambo of course.Rocky 26 or the last rocky film wasnt bad either. They just don't make em like they used too! Unfortunately, I think you might be right. But I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt mate. "The Terminator" is a REALLY simple concept. It's almost impossible to stuff up unless you're a total moran. Unfortunately, some total morans got a hold of the rights. This might be third time lucky. Let's just wait and see. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27996551 United States 02/25/2014 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude I'm not trying piss u off but live in the now. They don't make good movies in the vein of terminator or even close, T2 hasn't been topped in terms of action or effects in 23 years. Films are poo now I can count on one hand probably the really good, you know the proper decent ones that have come out in the past few years. 2013 was the worst year ever none of the big films that looked good were much cop at all. best thing they can do is leave stuff like that alone and fuck up some marvel bollocks or general wank like wwz or elysium or any of the other crap hollywood churns out. Remember with 500 film's a year it's all about quantity, not quality Quoting: Ben Marco What's your expectations for Star Wars episode 7? |
AgencyLeonard (OP) User ID: 53970990 Australia 02/25/2014 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The plot of Terminator 5. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54849919 An aging Arnold Terminator and several newer, smaller terminators are sent back in time by a teenage John Connor to the 1800's to stop the industrial revolution, thus preventing technology from ever existing. However, something goes wrong and they end up in Roswell New Mexico 1947. Only Arnie survives, the others are found by the government and taken to a secret base where their technology is studied and ultimately reversed engineered, eventually leading to Skynet in the future. Arnie hides himself in a cave for 100 years until he can awaken in the future and tell John Connor what happened. Connor decides Arnie must time travel again, this time to destroy the previous time travel crew (including Arnie) so that they cannot be found and reverse engineered. They succeed, but are then hit by a crashing UFO. Their remains are found by the government and Skynet is created anyway. Along the way, the audience learns what it is to be human. Movie Gold, right there. I think you're getting John Connor mixed up with John Cleese. Your script looks like a Monty Python skit. |
First Born User ID: 28375544 United States 02/25/2014 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Terminator 2 had sick special effects, even movies years later could not replicate it. My friends dad had that shit on laser disc, we were like damn, that looks so good on laser disc , lol. Quoting: centrist77 Terminator 2 was an Epic movie. I saw it in the theater when it first came out and NOTHING like it had ever been put on the screen before. |
AgencyLeonard (OP) User ID: 53970990 Australia 02/25/2014 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude I'm not trying piss u off but live in the now. They don't make good movies in the vein of terminator or even close, T2 hasn't been topped in terms of action or effects in 23 years. Films are poo now I can count on one hand probably the really good, you know the proper decent ones that have come out in the past few years. 2013 was the worst year ever none of the big films that looked good were much cop at all. best thing they can do is leave stuff like that alone and fuck up some marvel bollocks or general wank like wwz or elysium or any of the other crap hollywood churns out. Remember with 500 film's a year it's all about quantity, not quality Quoting: Ben Marco The problem is that movies used to be made with imagination, heart and wit. Now they are made on a production line with cliches, rehashed BS and crassness. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27996551 United States 02/25/2014 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The plot of Terminator 5. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54849919 An aging Arnold Terminator and several newer, smaller terminators are sent back in time by a teenage John Connor to the 1800's to stop the industrial revolution, thus preventing technology from ever existing. However, something goes wrong and they end up in Roswell New Mexico 1947. Only Arnie survives, the others are found by the government and taken to a secret base where their technology is studied and ultimately reversed engineered, eventually leading to Skynet in the future. Arnie hides himself in a cave for 100 years until he can awaken in the future and tell John Connor what happened. Connor decides Arnie must time travel again, this time to destroy the previous time travel crew (including Arnie) so that they cannot be found and reverse engineered. They succeed, but are then hit by a crashing UFO. Their remains are found by the government and Skynet is created anyway. Along the way, the audience learns what it is to be human. Movie Gold, right there. That could be interesting but I don't think people could root for mass slaughter of people by robots. That would be asking a lot. |
AgencyLeonard (OP) User ID: 53970990 Australia 02/25/2014 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Terminator 2 had sick special effects, even movies years later could not replicate it. My friends dad had that shit on laser disc, we were like damn, that looks so good on laser disc , lol. Quoting: centrist77 Terminator 2 was an Epic movie. I saw it in the theater when it first came out and NOTHING like it had ever been put on the screen before. Right on mate. It was a great movie. No doubt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54849919 United States 02/25/2014 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The plot of Terminator 5. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54849919 An aging Arnold Terminator and several newer, smaller terminators are sent back in time by a teenage John Connor to the 1800's to stop the industrial revolution, thus preventing technology from ever existing. However, something goes wrong and they end up in Roswell New Mexico 1947. Only Arnie survives, the others are found by the government and taken to a secret base where their technology is studied and ultimately reversed engineered, eventually leading to Skynet in the future. Arnie hides himself in a cave for 100 years until he can awaken in the future and tell John Connor what happened. Connor decides Arnie must time travel again, this time to destroy the previous time travel crew (including Arnie) so that they cannot be found and reverse engineered. They succeed, but are then hit by a crashing UFO. Their remains are found by the government and Skynet is created anyway. Along the way, the audience learns what it is to be human. Movie Gold, right there. I think you're getting John Connor mixed up with John Cleese. Your script looks like a Monty Python skit. John Cleese could have a role as the cheeky General he runs the secret base. Modern movie goers are too dumbed-down to question by a British man is running an army base in 1940's New Mexico. Nor will they notice the myriad of other plot holes, or inconsistencies with previous films in the franchise. Also, I have Shia Laebouf as John Connor. The audience will eat that up. |
AgencyLeonard (OP) User ID: 53970990 Australia 02/25/2014 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay but I just prefer the classics and all these reboots and shit are pants like crystal skull. Also James Cameron pretty much wrapped it in two films, probably cos he knew third film is usually a re hash of the second or just poo like the dark knight rises or bourne ultimatum or Godfather three. The terminator is a dead franchise just sit back and put one of the first two on and think " gosh weren't films ace back then". Arnold is past his sell by date as sad as that is so is most of the decent stars. Quoting: Ben Marco I agree, but it's only dead because some clowns came and sucked the marrow out of its bones. These guys making T5 have a CHANCE to redeem themselves. I'm not writing them off just yet - even though they didn't bring the other original cast members back. They at least got Arnie back (which is a good start). But I am fed RIGHT UP TO HERE ^ with the franchise, and they better get it right,or I for one am going to go postal (textually) all over the Internet. Then I am going to abandon any chance of seeing another good Terminator movie and start writing my own script. Sophia Stewart claims that the Terminator story and the Matrix story are the same story. I can see that when you watch the Animatrix it's easy to see. The Terminator films could be merged with the Matrix story where the robots overtake the humans and then grow humans for energy in cocoons and then create the matrix for them to live in. See how it fits together? What do you think about all that? Nah, no good. Terminator is about machines coming back in time to chase people. The point of it is to make people afraid of machines/AI. The Matrix is a movie that highlights the fact that we're living behind a veil. The point of it is to make people understand that what their world view is a false (manufactured) paradigm. I don't see the point in merging the two. However, both are great movies/ideas/stories/concepts. Last Edited by DoctorHonda on 02/25/2014 11:44 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27996551 United States 02/25/2014 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay but I just prefer the classics and all these reboots and shit are pants like crystal skull. Also James Cameron pretty much wrapped it in two films, probably cos he knew third film is usually a re hash of the second or just poo like the dark knight rises or bourne ultimatum or Godfather three. The terminator is a dead franchise just sit back and put one of the first two on and think " gosh weren't films ace back then". Arnold is past his sell by date as sad as that is so is most of the decent stars. Quoting: Ben Marco I agree, but it's only dead because some clowns came and sucked the marrow out of its bones. These guys making T5 have a CHANCE to redeem themselves. I'm not writing them off just yet - even though they didn't bring the other original cast members back. They at least got Arnie back (which is a good start). But I am fed RIGHT UP TO HERE ^ with the franchise, and they better get it right,or I for one am going to go postal (textually) all over the Internet. Then I am going to abandon any chance of seeing another good Terminator movie and start writing my own script. Sophia Stewart claims that the Terminator story and the Matrix story are the same story. I can see that when you watch the Animatrix it's easy to see. The Terminator films could be merged with the Matrix story where the robots overtake the humans and then grow humans for energy in cocoons and then create the matrix for them to live in. See how it fits together? What do you think about all that? Nah, no good. Terminator is about machines coming back in time to chase people. The point of it is to make people afraid of machines. The Matrix is a movie that highlights the fact that we're living behind a veil. The point of it is to make people understand that what their world view is a false (manufactured) paradigm. I don't see the point in merging the two. However, both are great movies/ideas/stories/concepts. Stewart claims that they had the same origin, same story and that's her book. That's an interesting thing to research if you're really interested in all this stuff. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21086071 United States 02/25/2014 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I loved the original Terminator movies, but as with most sequels (after the first 3 T- movies), it goes downhill, fast. Don't get you hopes up for the new one. It was a different time, back then. The new movie has to compete with everything else out there, now a days, which means that the whole Terminator brand will certainly be corrupted. It's the whole "you can't go home, again", thing. The 80's was a different time, different music. Enjoy your old Terminator memories, cause you won't be creating any new ones with the new movie. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27996551 United States 02/25/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I loved the original Terminator movies, but as with most sequels (after the first 3 T- movies), it goes downhill, fast. Don't get you hopes up for the new one. It was a different time, back then. The new movie has to compete with everything else out there, now a days, which means that the whole Terminator brand will certainly be corrupted. It's the whole "you can't go home, again", thing. The 80's was a different time, different music. Enjoy your old Terminator memories, cause you won't be creating any new ones with the new movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21086071 I thought T4 was fine and actually the most cerebral of all the Terminator movies. It explored a lot of interesting issues that the other films didn't touch. I don't know why everyone in this thread is missing that crucial point. Of course, I watch movies to learn things as much as to be entertained so that's my natural inclination, to like cerebral movies. |
AgencyLeonard (OP) User ID: 53970990 Australia 02/25/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AgencyLeonard I agree, but it's only dead because some clowns came and sucked the marrow out of its bones. These guys making T5 have a CHANCE to redeem themselves. I'm not writing them off just yet - even though they didn't bring the other original cast members back. They at least got Arnie back (which is a good start). But I am fed RIGHT UP TO HERE ^ with the franchise, and they better get it right,or I for one am going to go postal (textually) all over the Internet. Then I am going to abandon any chance of seeing another good Terminator movie and start writing my own script. Sophia Stewart claims that the Terminator story and the Matrix story are the same story. I can see that when you watch the Animatrix it's easy to see. The Terminator films could be merged with the Matrix story where the robots overtake the humans and then grow humans for energy in cocoons and then create the matrix for them to live in. See how it fits together? What do you think about all that? Nah, no good. Terminator is about machines coming back in time to chase people. The point of it is to make people afraid of machines. The Matrix is a movie that highlights the fact that we're living behind a veil. The point of it is to make people understand that what their world view is a false (manufactured) paradigm. I don't see the point in merging the two. However, both are great movies/ideas/stories/concepts. Stewart claims that they had the same origin, same story and that's her book. That's an interesting thing to research if you're really interested in all this stuff. She's a money hungry, nasty nutter. |
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AgencyLeonard (OP) User ID: 53970990 Australia 02/25/2014 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I loved the original Terminator movies, but as with most sequels (after the first 3 T- movies), it goes downhill, fast. Don't get you hopes up for the new one. It was a different time, back then. The new movie has to compete with everything else out there, now a days, which means that the whole Terminator brand will certainly be corrupted. It's the whole "you can't go home, again", thing. The 80's was a different time, different music. Enjoy your old Terminator memories, cause you won't be creating any new ones with the new movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21086071 I thought T4 was fine and actually the most cerebral of all the Terminator movies. It explored a lot of interesting issues that the other films didn't touch. I don't know why everyone in this thread is missing that crucial point. Of course, I watch movies to learn things as much as to be entertained so that's my natural inclination, to like cerebral movies. I mean no offence (honestly), but your point of view is one of a person who doesn't have a Terminator history. You are likely not old enough to have watch 1 and 2 as a kid (although, you likely got to see them, eventually), and just happened to go see 4 and think: "Don't know what everyone is complaining about. Looks like a good movie to me". It might be a good movie (by some other name), but it's NOT the Terminator - so I utterly reject it. I like salt (on the right food), but I don't like it on my ice cream. If anyone tries to put salt on my ice cream, I'd drop kick the bowl straight into the nearest wall. You're saying like: "Oh, you don't like salt"? NO - NOT ON MY ICE CREAM! ..just like I don't like transhumanism new age BS in my "Terminator" movies. |
Ben Marco User ID: 8911449 United Kingdom 02/25/2014 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude I'm not trying piss u off but live in the now. They don't make good movies in the vein of terminator or even close, T2 hasn't been topped in terms of action or effects in 23 years. Films are poo now I can count on one hand probably the really good, you know the proper decent ones that have come out in the past few years. 2013 was the worst year ever none of the big films that looked good were much cop at all. best thing they can do is leave stuff like that alone and fuck up some marvel bollocks or general wank like wwz or elysium or any of the other crap hollywood churns out. Remember with 500 film's a year it's all about quantity, not quality Quoting: Ben Marco What's your expectations for Star Wars episode 7? All you need ask yourself is has J.J ever made a good film " I don't invite this shit, it just comes to me", Carlito Brigantte |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27996551 United States 02/25/2014 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I loved the original Terminator movies, but as with most sequels (after the first 3 T- movies), it goes downhill, fast. Don't get you hopes up for the new one. It was a different time, back then. The new movie has to compete with everything else out there, now a days, which means that the whole Terminator brand will certainly be corrupted. It's the whole "you can't go home, again", thing. The 80's was a different time, different music. Enjoy your old Terminator memories, cause you won't be creating any new ones with the new movie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21086071 I thought T4 was fine and actually the most cerebral of all the Terminator movies. It explored a lot of interesting issues that the other films didn't touch. I don't know why everyone in this thread is missing that crucial point. Of course, I watch movies to learn things as much as to be entertained so that's my natural inclination, to like cerebral movies. I mean no offence (honestly), but your point of view is one of a person who doesn't have a Terminator history. You are likely not old enough to have watch 1 and 2 as a kid (although, you likely got to see them, eventually), and just happened to go see 4 and think: "Don't know what everyone is complaining about. Looks like a good movie to me". It might be a good movie (by some other name), but it's NOT the Terminator - so I utterly reject it. I like salt (on the right food), but I don't like it on my ice cream. If anyone tries to put salt on my ice cream, I'd drop kick the bowl straight into the nearest wall. You're saying like: "Oh, you don't like salt"? NO - NOT ON MY ICE CREAM! ..just like I don't like transhumanism new age BS in my "Terminator" movies. I saw T2 opening weekend, don't give me that! I thought it was fantastic then and I still do. But, the Terminator storyline is moving forward. T4 is the natural progression after T3. I agree that it's not as fun or interesting but T4 still had terrific scenes and ideas, I was satisfied. I think they're making the right choice by moving forward in the storyline like they are although it may not be the most exciting or interesting movies possible. Since there are no videos in this thread, what the hell? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
AgencyLeonard (OP) User ID: 53970990 Australia 02/25/2014 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude I'm not trying piss u off but live in the now. They don't make good movies in the vein of terminator or even close, T2 hasn't been topped in terms of action or effects in 23 years. Films are poo now I can count on one hand probably the really good, you know the proper decent ones that have come out in the past few years. 2013 was the worst year ever none of the big films that looked good were much cop at all. best thing they can do is leave stuff like that alone and fuck up some marvel bollocks or general wank like wwz or elysium or any of the other crap hollywood churns out. Remember with 500 film's a year it's all about quantity, not quality Quoting: Ben Marco What's your expectations for Star Wars episode 7? All you need ask yourself is has J.J ever made a good film See: [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27996551 United States 02/25/2014 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude I'm not trying piss u off but live in the now. They don't make good movies in the vein of terminator or even close, T2 hasn't been topped in terms of action or effects in 23 years. Films are poo now I can count on one hand probably the really good, you know the proper decent ones that have come out in the past few years. 2013 was the worst year ever none of the big films that looked good were much cop at all. best thing they can do is leave stuff like that alone and fuck up some marvel bollocks or general wank like wwz or elysium or any of the other crap hollywood churns out. Remember with 500 film's a year it's all about quantity, not quality Quoting: Ben Marco What's your expectations for Star Wars episode 7? All you need ask yourself is has J.J ever made a good film There's billions riding on episode 7 imho, Disney will find a way. One thing I've learned about Hollywood is that they know how to make good films when they want to and there may have never been a situation when making a good film was more important when you realize the investment Disney made here. |
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AgencyLeonard (OP) User ID: 53970990 Australia 02/25/2014 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What we NEED is a "natural progression" from James Cameron's: THE TERMINATOR Last Edited by DoctorHonda on 02/25/2014 12:09 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27996551 United States 02/25/2014 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're not getting it. The story needs to be told even if it's not as interesting as it could possibly be. It's like how Star Wars Episode 1 had to be made to set the stage for the rest of the series. In that case the stories got more interesting from there. In this case, the first Terminator set the stage for the rest of the story but it happened to be the most interesting part first, the opposite of Star Wars where the least interesting part was first. That's how it goes with story telling. You're asking for a different story to be told, I don't see how you can do that honestly. |
Ben Marco User ID: 8911449 United Kingdom 02/25/2014 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the director of mission impossible 3 3 takes over the star wars legacy and the terminator producers start hiring guys with credentials like charlie's angels to their name, and their name is Mcg, really the fanboys of the originals shouldn't hold their breath, even if they've managed get the original actors on board. " I don't invite this shit, it just comes to me", Carlito Brigantte |