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Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants

 
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Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants
[link to www.kvoa.com]

Article calls them vandals, I'd call them Vigilantes or maybe even Patriots. Quit providing crutches for illegals to get in to this country. The people providing these water tanks should be treated like employers hiring illegals, criminals.

I'm all for providing more hazards, like a 2,000 mile fence w/ razor-wire. These people would probably rather see a daily bus shuttle service in to the US instead. Fuck 'em. Citizens have had enough of this bullshit!

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Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants

We try to save people from dying from dehydration," said Paula Mich, a volunteer with Humane Borders.

Mich, along with hundreds of other Humane Borders volunteers, travels into the wilderness each day to refill tanks with water meant for the lips of illegal immigrants crossing the border.

Marked with a blue flag, the jugs are placed deep in the desert just outside Tucson in areas where volunteers say the most illegal immigrants have died from dehydration.

"We save lives by doing this," said Humane Borders Volunteer Frank Saavedra. "I don't know how many, but if it's only one it's worth it."

Not everyone agrees with Humane Borders placing water tanks in areas heavily trafficked by illegal immigrants.

Mich says vandals have been coming out to the water stations, pulling the caps off the tanks and dumping the water out into the desert.

The volunteers also say vandals are destroying the blue flags that fly atop 30-foot poles in the middle of the desert -- flags the immigrants look for when seeking out a water station on their journeys.

"Flags have been destroyed, and not in this station but in others. They've put bullet holes [the water tanks]," Mich said.

Mich also says each week Humane Borders finds at least one or more of their 70 water tanks vandalized, an act these volunteers say can kill.

"If they're planning on getting their water at that location and they get there and there's no water, then the next time they could get water could be not before they die," Saavedra said.

Russ Dove, a local immigration activist, says he understands why people trash the tanks.

"The vandal issue is a sign that Americans have had enough," Dove said, "and from observation, I think it's only going to get worse."

Dove says Humane Borders is helping illegal immigrants, some he calls criminals, cross the border safely.

"These are robbers, rapists, murders. This is simply aiding and abetting criminal activity," Dove said.

The volunteers, however, say the border crossers are innocent, crossing in search of a better life.

"We're going to continue to do this regardless of how many empty tanks we find," Mich said. "We're going to continue to do this."
Don't Judge Me, Monkey.
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Re: Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants
applause
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I agree, quit providing crutches for illegal activity. applause
Your VILLAGE called, their IDIOT is missing.

Your IDIOT called, their VILLAGE is missing.
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rocket
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You would think that they would get the message that we don't want them here.
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good
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06/15/2006 03:41 PM
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Nope, they haven't gotten the message yet. I think we need to speak a bit louder.

I love how the Senate says it's a small, but vocal, minority of the House that wants to stand in the way of their new immigration reform bill (a.k.a amnesty).

The reality is that the majority of US citizens are against this bill.

It should be, citizens will the do the jobs that our government won't do (stop illegal immigration) instead of Mexicans are doing the jobs Americans won't do.
Don't Judge Me, Monkey.
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One of the biggest problems, is that people like Sen. John McCain and Mr. Potato-Head Teddy Kennedy REFUSE to acknowledge that many border-crossers are ALREADY convicted criminals in Mexico ( who have escaped, or been released to invade the USA ), even before they commit the crime of entering the U.S. illegally.

While I don't necessarily agree with destroying those water stations, I do agree that people erecting them ARE aiding and abetting criminal activity.

Go, Minutemen !!!!
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No more rubber boots and swim wings kiosk by the rio grande?
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Corporate USA is destroying Mexico, maybe you should address the problem instead of the result.
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"Corporate USA is destroying Mexico, "

lol
corporate USA is the only thing keeping Mexico afloat
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Why not put your money where your mouth is.
If you hate 'em so much, why aren't you out there right now doing the same thing instead of just talking shit about it.
You want someone else doing the dirty work?
Roll it ova....
Greeze it dowen.....
Here come that crazy screamin' sowen
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Re: Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants
I don't know why they usually just empty them, I'd make sure the container was no longer usable.

I'm all for immigration and taking in refugees but uncontrolled immigration has never improved a modern nations lifestyle. Apart from the monetary problems you also have no way to check criminal or medical history. I remember when every new Australian was x-rayed for TB, it worked, the UK currently has rampant TB running through it's new citizens because they are not checked even though they come from countries with high incidence of the disease. If you don't check them you can't treat them.
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Some people, like me, tend to look at it from a religious point of view.

I am against illegal immigration; I believe we should wall off the country if necessary, return every illegal immigrant we can catch, and bust people who smuggle them and knowingly hire them.

But unless we implement that kind of enforcement, people are going to come across and many of them -- women and children in disproportionate amounts -- will die of heat stress and dehydration.

I have seen 29 Sonoran Desert summers; if you do not live here you simply cannot understand what the desert is like then.

If I saw someone in the desert dying of dehydration and knew that person was an illegal alien, I would tell La migración about her, but I would also try to save her life while waiting.

Because even though they may be illegal aliens, my religion teaches that they are brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ and, as a Christian, it is my COMMANDMENT to give them aid.

I have my instructions written out for me:

"A certain [man] went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded [him], and departed, leaving [him] half dead.

But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion [on him]

Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

And he said, He that shewed mercy on him.

Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise."

Now I understand that lot of you are not Christian, and that's okay. But think of it this way. Your 10-year-old kid wants to go swimming illegally in my pool. He climbs over the fence, ignores the "Keep Out" sign, and jumps in the pool, gets a cramp and starts to drown.

How would you feel if I were there watching your child drown saying, in effect:

"Screw him! He has no business in my pool; the little shit DESERVES to die." ?

I don't think we should sentence your 10-year-old kid to death for sneaking into my back yard even though he knows it's wrong, and I don't think we should sentence women and children to death for trying to sneak into what they consider a better future.

Yet that's exactly what you're calling for.
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
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What the hell is this bullshit post still doing up.

Delete this hateful shit already.

Does it have to be anti-semetic to get the attention of the mods?

Props for consuming hatred by the OP.

Way to turn this place into a cesspool!
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why is it when someone disagrees with youre opinion youre automatically racsist?last time i checked this was still a free country.if you dont like the post dont read it.
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Re: Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants
What the hell is this bullshit post still doing up.

Delete this hateful shit already.

Does it have to be anti-semetic to get the attention of the mods?

Props for consuming hatred by the OP.

Way to turn this place into a cesspool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61135



there's nothing racist about disagreeing with illegal immigration
i'm all for legal immigration from any country
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Re: Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants
Right on
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Re: Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants
Well 14076, how about his support of murder?

Is there something wrong with that?

Or is it ok to let them die of dehydration as long as they brown skinned and don't speak english?

That's what he's lauding after all, the destruction of water stations that are there to keep people from dying.

Is that OK?
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Re: Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants
What the hell is this bullshit post still doing up.

Delete this hateful shit already.

Does it have to be anti-semetic to get the attention of the mods?

Props for consuming hatred by the OP.

Way to turn this place into a cesspool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61135


You're a fool. There's nothing racist in my post. I'm simply making the point that these citizens are taking matters in to their own hands and trying to eliminate yet one more crutch available to illegal immigrants. I suppose building a fence with razor-wire is racist too. It's a hazard to cross the desert and it's hazard to climb over a razor-wire fence. Maybe we should only make the fence about 4 feet high so as to not hurt anyone if they fall while climbing over it.

I don't see the US government doing much to stem the flow.

Trust me, this post is by no means as offensive as half the threads here. So, just move along little doggy.
Don't Judge Me, Monkey.
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You're a good guy, Duncan Kuntz.
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i say fuck em if they dont want to die of thrist then dont cross the border illegally simple as that
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Re: Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants
well 61135,
the way I see it, they're just returning the desert to it's natural state, arid.
Now, if criminals decide to venture out into the desert without sufficient water,
then they aren't very bright and ma nature will take care of them
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Well, said Duncan!
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Don't let him fool you.

Ducan talks like a saint but he is only self righteous.

Ask him what he does for a living.

He used to come to this forum puffed up with pride about some new piece of military weaponry that he helped bring to fruition designed to kill more people as efficiently as possible.

He even admitted that it was designed to be as effective as possible on large crowds, and said he did not care one whit that he knew it would be used on civilian populations.

he even gleefully stated that he hoped to see one of his monstrosities deployed within the US someday.

In reality he speaks with the manner of a parson but he creates weapons of mass destruction for Boeing.

Ask him yourself.

He's no better than the Anvil.
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06/15/2006 10:51 PM
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Maybe they should be served some Jim Jones Kool-Aid instead! Or we should pay a bounty for their heads!
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If they provide shelter and support for illegal activities now... then why not go full service.

Give each illegal a fake id, gun, social security card and medical benefit.
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The pansies who lauder the actions of would be murderers on this thread are nothing compaired to Duncan.

They just talk, but not Duncan he's gotten his hands wet.
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Common everyone in this country deserves the constitutional natural man right to own a gun. Why not illegals?

Each illegal entering the country should be given a pistol and/or hunting rifle!

The time for Mecha to stand up for the rights of Mexicans and Gun rights is now.
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Re: Vandals drain desert water tanks intended for illegal immigrants
Don't let him fool you.

Ducan talks like a saint but he is only self righteous.

Ask him what he does for a living.

He used to come to this forum puffed up with pride about some new piece of military weaponry that he helped bring to fruition designed to kill more people as efficiently as possible.

He even admitted that it was designed to be as effective as possible on large crowds, and said he did not care one whit that he knew it would be used on civilian populations.

he even gleefully stated that he hoped to see one of his monstrosities deployed within the US someday.

In reality he speaks with the manner of a parson but he creates weapons of mass destruction for Boeing.

Ask him yourself.

He's no better than the Anvil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61135


Don't judge me, monkey.

These people are encouraging more illegals to take the risk of crossing the desert in to the US. They will begin to count on these little safety nets.
Don't Judge Me, Monkey.
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Know one thing Anvil. You would be much more polite in person.

You encourage others to kill innocents.

This makes you the worst kind of coward.
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F**k Aztlan!
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