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Lets start off with God as he is the good guy in this story. In the bible God's body count is listed at 2,821,364. That is TWO MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR men. I say men as the bible generally doesn't count the women, children, and slaves. There are very few cases where it counts women, but the only one I can honestly name off the top of my head is Lot's wife whom he turned into a pillar of salt. This number also doesn't account for the victims of the flood, or the burning of Sodom and Gomorrah. Estimates place Gods total body count at around 25,000,000. Thats twenty five MILLION Men women and children.

Now that we have God's bodycount out of the way let's take a look at the villian of the story. Surely he can beat a mere 25 million. I mean he is the devil and dark lord of all that is evil, and we all know murder is one of the most evil acts that one can commit.

According to the bible Satan has killed a grand total of 10 people...

10 people? That can't be right... There must be more around here somewhere... Right?

Nope Satan killed Job's family, and this was only after he was given permission. Who would give the most evil being in all of creation permission to kill one of God's most devout followers you might ask. Well the answer to that would be God himself. Why would God do such a thing? Well to win a bet with the devil. After the bet was settled God did return these 10 people back to life, so I have to wonder if these kills even count.


So in conclusion we have God the supreme personification of love with a body count of 25,000,000, and Satan the supreme personification of evil with a body count of 10, or 0 depending on how you look at it.
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THE Satans score for the win. The Satan's first kill was in the garden and all of their offspring still die as a result. So the first and last murderer is and forever will be a punk-ass fallen angel.
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Why have ppl a hard time understanding Satan remains an angel of God, even if fallen. There is no hiding from God, for anybody.
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THE Satans score for the win. The Satan's first kill was in the garden and all of their offspring still die as a result. So the first and last murderer is and forever will be a punk-ass fallen angel.
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Who did Satan kill in the garden? I am genuinely curious about this as the only appearance I know of satan in the garden is as the serpent, and he just talked Eve into eating from the tree of knowledge.
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THE Satans score for the win. The Satan's first kill was in the garden and all of their offspring still die as a result. So the first and last murderer is and forever will be a punk-ass fallen angel.
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This.
God created man in a perfect enviroment and built him for immortality.
Satan caused the fall and all the death that followed.
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Satan's body count is every person who ever died - they died because of the sin he introduced.
So..

Satan.
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THE Satans score for the win. The Satan's first kill was in the garden and all of their offspring still die as a result. So the first and last murderer is and forever will be a punk-ass fallen angel.
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This.
God created man in a perfect enviroment and built him for immortality.
Satan caused the fall and all the death that followed.
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One could also conclude that God in it's omnipotence, allowed the serpent into the garden, to tempt Eve. God being the all knowing all powerful being it is, knew the outcome of this encounter.

I've used this argument before in other threads. As a parent of 2 young children I would not allow a danger such as a loaded gun or a venomous snake into an enclosed space with my children... Especially if I knew the outcome would be the death of my children.
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OP does't believe in God, but wants to talk about God like God exists. Classic.


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THE Satans score for the win. The Satan's first kill was in the garden and all of their offspring still die as a result. So the first and last murderer is and forever will be a punk-ass fallen angel.
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This.
God created man in a perfect enviroment and built him for immortality.
Satan caused the fall and all the death that followed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52662582


One could also conclude that God in it's omnipotence, allowed the serpent into the garden, to tempt Eve. God being the all knowing all powerful being it is, knew the outcome of this encounter.

I've used this argument before in other threads. As a parent of 2 young children I would not allow a danger such as a loaded gun or a venomous snake into an enclosed space with my children... Especially if I knew the outcome would be the death of my children.
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Adam was no child of God, you have there smtg. terribly wrong.
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THE Satans score for the win. The Satan's first kill was in the garden and all of their offspring still die as a result. So the first and last murderer is and forever will be a punk-ass fallen angel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48175751


This.
God created man in a perfect enviroment and built him for immortality.
Satan caused the fall and all the death that followed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52662582


One could also conclude that God in it's omnipotence, allowed the serpent into the garden, to tempt Eve. God being the all knowing all powerful being it is, knew the outcome of this encounter.

I've used this argument before in other threads. As a parent of 2 young children I would not allow a danger such as a loaded gun or a venomous snake into an enclosed space with my children... Especially if I knew the outcome would be the death of my children.
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Thread: GOD is totally omnipotent and ALL powerful..NOTHING thrwarts his plans EVER.

Yeah..THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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THE Satans score for the win. The Satan's first kill was in the garden and all of their offspring still die as a result. So the first and last murderer is and forever will be a punk-ass fallen angel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48175751


This.
God created man in a perfect enviroment and built him for immortality.
Satan caused the fall and all the death that followed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52662582


One could also conclude that God in it's omnipotence, allowed the serpent into the garden, to tempt Eve. God being the all knowing all powerful being it is, knew the outcome of this encounter.

I've used this argument before in other threads. As a parent of 2 young children I would not allow a danger such as a loaded gun or a venomous snake into an enclosed space with my children... Especially if I knew the outcome would be the death of my children.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Thread: GOD is totally omnipotent and ALL powerful..NOTHING thrwarts his plans EVER.

Yeah..THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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*knock knock*
Who's there?
It's Jesus, let me in! I'm here to save you!!
Save me? From what?
From what I'll do to you if you don't let me in!
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This.
God created man in a perfect enviroment and built him for immortality.
Satan caused the fall and all the death that followed.
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One could also conclude that God in it's omnipotence, allowed the serpent into the garden, to tempt Eve. God being the all knowing all powerful being it is, knew the outcome of this encounter.

I've used this argument before in other threads. As a parent of 2 young children I would not allow a danger such as a loaded gun or a venomous snake into an enclosed space with my children... Especially if I knew the outcome would be the death of my children.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Thread: GOD is totally omnipotent and ALL powerful..NOTHING thrwarts his plans EVER.

Yeah..THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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*knock knock*
Who's there?
It's Jesus, let me in! I'm here to save you!!
Save me? From what?
From what I'll do to you if you don't let me in!
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Thread: All HAIL the GOD OF DEATH..cuz he loves you..I think...

Ahhh...you mean..THIS^^^^^^^
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Good thread. No one ever likes to hear that God kills a lot of people.

That's a fact. God has personally killed people.

But the argument, if someone is willing to make one, is that he gave them life so no matter what his "life giving vs taking" stays well above zero.

Therefore, God is good.


Satan, well I think Satan just gets a bad rap.
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Good versus Evil might be better names for "them". Each exists to balance the other. Duality is a constant. It's a tie.
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OP, do you believe in God?
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Good versus Evil might be better names for "them". Each exists to balance the other. Duality is a constant. It's a tie.
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Good vs. Evil. (W)Holeness is neither.
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One could also conclude that God in it's omnipotence, allowed the serpent into the garden, to tempt Eve. God being the all knowing all powerful being it is, knew the outcome of this encounter.

I've used this argument before in other threads. As a parent of 2 young children I would not allow a danger such as a loaded gun or a venomous snake into an enclosed space with my children... Especially if I knew the outcome would be the death of my children.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Thread: GOD is totally omnipotent and ALL powerful..NOTHING thrwarts his plans EVER.

Yeah..THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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*knock knock*
Who's there?
It's Jesus, let me in! I'm here to save you!!
Save me? From what?
From what I'll do to you if you don't let me in!
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Thread: All HAIL the GOD OF DEATH..cuz he loves you..I think...

Ahhh...you mean..THIS^^^^^^^
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Pretty much. The Abrahamic God is one of the most morally repugnant deities I have ran across in the course of my studies.

Good thread. No one ever likes to hear that God kills a lot of people.

That's a fact. God has personally killed people.

But the argument, if someone is willing to make one, is that he gave them life so no matter what his "life giving vs taking" stays well above zero.

Therefore, God is good.


Satan, well I think Satan just gets a bad rap.
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One could also say that your parents are the ones who gave you your life, but it would be a crime if they were to murder you.

I also believe that Satan gets a bad rap. After all he is an angel of God and they do God's will.

OP, do you believe in God?
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I am on the fence about a Godlike figure. As I have stated in the past I feel that if (and its a mighty big IF) there is a God it is more of a cosmic clockmaker. It set off the big bang just to see what would happen.
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*knock knock*
Who's there?
It's Jesus, let me in! I'm here to save you!!
Save me? From what?
From what I'll do to you if you don't let me in!
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Thread: All HAIL the GOD OF DEATH..cuz he loves you..I think...

Ahhh...you mean..THIS^^^^^^^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55227647


Pretty much. The Abrahamic God is one of the most morally repugnant deities I have ran across in the course of my studies.

Good thread. No one ever likes to hear that God kills a lot of people.

That's a fact. God has personally killed people.

But the argument, if someone is willing to make one, is that he gave them life so no matter what his "life giving vs taking" stays well above zero.

Therefore, God is good.


Satan, well I think Satan just gets a bad rap.
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One could also say that your parents are the ones who gave you your life, but it would be a crime if they were to murder you.

I also believe that Satan gets a bad rap. After all he is an angel of God and they do God's will.

OP, do you believe in God?
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I am on the fence about a Godlike figure. As I have stated in the past I feel that if (and its a mighty big IF) there is a God it is more of a cosmic clockmaker. It set off the big bang just to see what would happen.
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But my parents didn't "create everything in existence", God did, so he gets a little bit of leeway.
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It cracks me up when ppl who do not believe in God, make threads about him, and refer to him, as if he is real to them. There are plenty of gods throughout history who were bloodthirsty, why single this one out? Just curious, not trying to attack what you do or don't believe.
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Christians being the murderous pedophiles that they are, who act in the name of their god, I'd have to go with god has the higher body count.
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"Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves."

How come adam and eve only realised that they were naked when they ate the fruit?, and the part that says "Then the eyes of both of them were opened" which means they became humans after eating the fruit? i mean like actual humans with free will, cause it's only human to feel shyness when you're naked.

So maybe that fruit was really a gift from the devil, and god allowed this to happen, maybe they're together in all of this.

i'm pretty sure freud wrote about this.
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I suspect it's about something vastly more valuable than "bodies".

As far as what it's about (souls), hands down Satan has the numbers -- largely due to flawed premises such as "knock knock it's Jesus let me in or you burn eternally", being propagated by people claiming to be like Jesus. Truth is, He ate with sinners and detested "religious" people who thought themselves above others.

It's a shame really, when the simple truth is...we were made to commune with Him. He made us because he loves us and just wants to chat with us and bless us. Kinda difficult to add an eternal punishment into that narrative, isn't it?
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It cracks me up when ppl who do not believe in God, make threads about him, and refer to him, as if he is real to them. There are plenty of gods throughout history who were bloodthirsty, why single this one out? Just curious, not trying to attack what you do or don't believe.
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You show me any other deity that claims the moral high road, and paved the road with corpses, and I'll single it out also.
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Nice avatar you reject!

You know nothing of what you speak. Grow up and do some research son!
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Nice avatar you reject!

You know nothing of what you speak. Grow up and do some research son!
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Nice AC reject! I've done my research... Where do you think my numbers came from? Grow up and use your brain son!
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Good versus Evil might be better names for "them". Each exists to balance the other. Duality is a constant. It's a tie.
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Good vs. Evil. (W)Holeness is neither.
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(W)holeness is a duality. The universe is like that.
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Lets start off with God as he is the good guy in this story. In the bible God's body count is listed at 2,821,364. That is TWO MILLION EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR men. I say men as the bible generally doesn't count the women, children, and slaves. There are very few cases where it counts women, but the only one I can honestly name off the top of my head is Lot's wife whom he turned into a pillar of salt. This number also doesn't account for the victims of the flood, or the burning of Sodom and Gomorrah. Estimates place Gods total body count at around 25,000,000. Thats twenty five MILLION Men women and children.

Now that we have God's bodycount out of the way let's take a look at the villian of the story. Surely he can beat a mere 25 million. I mean he is the devil and dark lord of all that is evil, and we all know murder is one of the most evil acts that one can commit.

According to the bible Satan has killed a grand total of 10 people...

10 people? That can't be right... There must be more around here somewhere... Right?

Nope Satan killed Job's family, and this was only after he was given permission. Who would give the most evil being in all of creation permission to kill one of God's most devout followers you might ask. Well the answer to that would be God himself. Why would God do such a thing? Well to win a bet with the devil. After the bet was settled God did return these 10 people back to life, so I have to wonder if these kills even count.


So in conclusion we have God the supreme personification of love with a body count of 25,000,000, and Satan the supreme personification of evil with a body count of 10, or 0 depending on how you look at it.
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Classic agnostic/atheist stupidity and ignorance.
Remind me how many would have died if satan as a serpent in the garden of eden,had never caused mankind to sin and fall from grace?

Answer is none...
So in other words satan is responsible for the eventual death,of every human being that has ever existed.Real facts and logic,rather then your God hating ignorant prattle as seen in the OP.
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THE Satans score for the win. The Satan's first kill was in the garden and all of their offspring still die as a result. So the first and last murderer is and forever will be a punk-ass fallen angel.
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Who did Satan kill in the garden? I am genuinely curious about this as the only appearance I know of satan in the garden is as the serpent, and he just talked Eve into eating from the tree of knowledge.
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And because of that deception every human that ever lived after wards,had a set mortal lifespan.After which each person would die.

So satans death count...7 billion plus..
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THE Satans score for the win. The Satan's first kill was in the garden and all of their offspring still die as a result. So the first and last murderer is and forever will be a punk-ass fallen angel.
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This.
God created man in a perfect enviroment and built him for immortality.
Satan caused the fall and all the death that followed.
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One could also conclude that God in it's omnipotence, allowed the serpent into the garden, to tempt Eve. God being the all knowing all powerful being it is, knew the outcome of this encounter.

I've used this argument before in other threads. As a parent of 2 young children I would not allow a danger such as a loaded gun or a venomous snake into an enclosed space with my children... Especially if I knew the outcome would be the death of my children.
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So we're back to the often used 'If God is so benevolent,why does he allow death and suffering'?

Got to admit I don't know the answer.Why would he allow himself in human form as Jesus;to live a harsh earthly life as a pauper,and then be tortured and executed horribly?The fact that God put himself through the same horrible suffering any mortal has been through,kind of defeats that argument don't you think?

satan was the one that tempted.Adam and the rest of mankind that followed made their choice to obey the devil instead of God.You can't whine about God supposedly wanting us to be mindless puppets;and then also whine when he allows free choice,and we screw it up.





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